So mantis guard? Makes sense seeing as he's from Atos... I played around with this when I first got my blue because I wanted something "impassable" I could troll higher belts with and completely shut down people around my skill level lol. The day I brought it to the gym almost no one could pass it and kept stubbornly trying to knee cut. This is cool and an expansion on the initial Keenan videos for me. A lot of rafa-esque stuff in this one with the back takes etc... and seems like it would work really well with the collar and sleeve de la riva he teaches that I'm playing around with now. Gonna combine the two. Great channel Jon your youtube channel is relatively new but I've watched and absorbed so much open guard knowledge from your videos already. Keep em coming! Thank you!
This is awesome thank you, very detailed, now for the other side, who has been caught with the de la hiva, with that underhook, how do we get out of it, when already caught in it... video or input?
Jon could you do some more guard retention/defense vs passes, like smash pass defense Bernardo style/ over under pass defence/ and maybe some defense vs butterfly passes, my butterfly guards always getting passes especially vs bigger guys
Are there any good instructionals, or BJJ practitioners to follow, that use or expand on this? It looks right up my alley and I would love to see/learn more.
Zoetekauw Mikey Muscimeci uses it a lot he might have an instructional out somewhere with stuff in it on the position. Also Andy is really good at it. He’s suppose to start a UA-cam channel soon so maybe he will be putting up stuff on it
Any concern with the knee reap from here for ibjjf, particularly grabbing the belt from the underhook de la riva? I do this guard a lot but not sure what to stay away from in the wonderful world of DQ happy bjj circuits. Maybe just make sure you're not driving your opponent's knee to the mat to get behind them? Any concerns at all?
Travis Outten I think you are pretty safe with underhook dlr as long as you don’t deep lace your dlr leg and rip up hard on ankle, but honestly I’m not certain on the exact rules on that position anymore. I haven’t really seen anyone get dqed from here though
@@JonThomasBJJ Hi Jon, Since posting this, have you learned of any updates on this position/grips? Under IBJJF rules, is the underhook DLR allowed as long as the DLR hook is not a "deep" DLR hook to the far hip? Or is it only allowed if you remove your DLR hook from the near leg as soon as you gain the underhook grip to your shin? Thanks!
새틀슢보이 Hey buddy id have to see the situation for complete context but if you can shift them to the right then usually you should be trying to take them to the left instead, the big thing to understand is all techniques need to be done at the correct time, so it’s hard for me to say without seeing your exact positioning but if it feels really hard to take then to the right then it’s probably not the right moment for that move and try to explore other options in that situation to see what is available. Hope that makes sense.
As a black belt, let me say, this guy gave a very high level of instruction! Congrats to his master.
So mantis guard? Makes sense seeing as he's from Atos... I played around with this when I first got my blue because I wanted something "impassable" I could troll higher belts with and completely shut down people around my skill level lol. The day I brought it to the gym almost no one could pass it and kept stubbornly trying to knee cut. This is cool and an expansion on the initial Keenan videos for me. A lot of rafa-esque stuff in this one with the back takes etc... and seems like it would work really well with the collar and sleeve de la riva he teaches that I'm playing around with now. Gonna combine the two. Great channel Jon your youtube channel is relatively new but I've watched and absorbed so much open guard knowledge from your videos already. Keep em coming! Thank you!
I think Andy learned this from Caio Terra, he was in CTA before Atos.
saludos de argentina del team tano's , gracias por los videos hermano
This is a great guard for us stumpy legged shorties
He made good detail about when to use it if opponent is sitting on elevation hook most important
Great video guys.
2 years later, Andy has his black belt as I watch this! Great video and keep up the fantastic work Andy!
This guy is good, thanks for sharing him
Really good stuff. Thank you. My school knee cuts a lot so this will really help
Thank you Jon for all your helpful things you’ve brought to youtube man
Really helpful and honest if you bro thank you so much.
I'm going to try this out!
I love your content man! Thank you for sharing!
awesome stuff andy
Awesome stuff! Things to try in a sparring day! Thanks✌️
This is awesome thank you, very detailed, now for the other side, who has been caught with the de la hiva, with that underhook, how do we get out of it, when already caught in it... video or input?
I watched this video at least ten times. So good, despite Jonathan beaing in a weaker hair phase.
so good, thanks for sharing. I was seeing this being played a lot lately and didnt quite catch what it was!
As always, Amazing content!
So good so good! Thanks
this is good stuff thanks guys
No problem buddy happy to help
A really good one
thank you
Jon could you do some more guard retention/defense vs passes, like smash pass defense Bernardo style/ over under pass defence/ and maybe some defense vs butterfly passes, my butterfly guards always getting passes especially vs bigger guys
many thanks 🥳🥳
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Happy to help
Great.upload
Thanks again!
Are there any good instructionals, or BJJ practitioners to follow, that use or expand on this? It looks right up my alley and I would love to see/learn more.
Zoetekauw Mikey Muscimeci uses it a lot he might have an instructional out somewhere with stuff in it on the position. Also Andy is really good at it. He’s suppose to start a UA-cam channel soon so maybe he will be putting up stuff on it
@@JonThomasBJJ Thanks Jon. The degree to which you interact with folks here and on Reddit is inspiring.
@@JonThomasBJJ Just purchased his guard retention instructional. Thanks again!
Zoetekauw I try my best to stay up to date with all the comments. Sometimes they slip through but I do what I can :)
Very cool... also this guy has a japanese name but sounds brazilian. is he from brazil?
Hello,
What if the guy on the top grab your collar preventing you to go under etc?
thanks!
😎👍 thanks!
Any concern with the knee reap from here for ibjjf, particularly grabbing the belt from the underhook de la riva? I do this guard a lot but not sure what to stay away from in the wonderful world of DQ happy bjj circuits. Maybe just make sure you're not driving your opponent's knee to the mat to get behind them? Any concerns at all?
Good vid by the way
Travis Outten I think you are pretty safe with underhook dlr as long as you don’t deep lace your dlr leg and rip up hard on ankle, but honestly I’m not certain on the exact rules on that position anymore. I haven’t really seen anyone get dqed from here though
@@JonThomasBJJ Hi Jon,
Since posting this, have you learned of any updates on this position/grips? Under IBJJF rules, is the underhook DLR allowed as long as the DLR hook is not a "deep" DLR hook to the far hip? Or is it only allowed if you remove your DLR hook from the near leg as soon as you gain the underhook grip to your shin?
Thanks!
no link for his youtube page
Where's the link to his channel?
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What is his yt channel?
Can you link his channel?
Saagár Mahalingam I will for sure he hasn’t started posting yet, but he should have one up soon
I tried to shift my partner to right after making the gripps but he wouldn’t move an inch.. will there be any solution?
새틀슢보이 Hey buddy id have to see the situation for complete context but if you can shift them to the right then usually you should be trying to take them to the left instead, the big thing to understand is all techniques need to be done at the correct time, so it’s hard for me to say without seeing your exact positioning but if it feels really hard to take then to the right then it’s probably not the right moment for that move and try to explore other options in that situation to see what is available. Hope that makes sense.
Try to roll on your hip to get him to lean
2:47 would that be prone to kneebar?
definetly something that you would have to be aware of. same with alot of berimbolo variations, you make urself potentially vulnerable to leg attacks.
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