Understanding Bespoke Shirt Measurements With Wil Whiting | Kirby Allison

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  • @3DGvisuals
    @3DGvisuals 5 років тому +21

    For someone who makes beautiful shirts he sure minimizes how much is on show with such very high trousers

  • @ianmedium
    @ianmedium 6 років тому +39

    Fascinating, there seems to be just as much to designing a shirt as there is to designing a jacket! Love his trousers, it seems traditional high waists are making a comeback. I always have thought they have a more elegant look over the more modern hip type waist. Thanks Kirby, another great video.

    • @msanchez0125
      @msanchez0125 6 років тому +2

      It does look really good. What is the rise measurement of his trousers?

    • @chunkychinn
      @chunkychinn 4 роки тому

      ianmedium love high waisters.

    • @ls8701
      @ls8701 3 роки тому

      @@chunkychinn pp

    • @adamcuthbert9498
      @adamcuthbert9498 3 роки тому +2

      I know this comment was from two years ago, but if you were looking for a affordable high waisted trouser with side adjusters like he was wearing i would suggest checking out Spier And Mackay, high quality materials, multiple taper options and optional hemming for a ten dollar upcharge.

    • @ianmedium
      @ianmedium 3 роки тому +2

      @@adamcuthbert9498 Oh that´s great, Thank you Adam, I will be sure to take a look!

  • @nbourbaki
    @nbourbaki 6 років тому +19

    Kirby, this was a great video. Even though Wil is young relative to other bespoke shirtmakers, his critical approach to shirtmaking - questioning why and how each step is done - is something I like to hear about.
    In particular, it was very informative to hear Wil talk about stitch density how fabric type should be a factor in how high it should be. If he has time for another video, please let him talk in length about his research, give him a whiteboard and a marker and let him go wild.

  • @rob379lqz
    @rob379lqz 6 років тому +20

    Wil, you were my favorite on Star Trek next gen.

  • @Mrbrbusby
    @Mrbrbusby 5 років тому +10

    “I did my masters degree in Computer Science. I worked in finance; I travelled. I considered the sordid meaningless trajectory of humankind. I memorized the Quran, Yoga-Sutras, and the Dhammapada. I made love - to a beautiful woman. But after all of it, I realized that shirtmaking, verily, is alone that which would bring me happiness.” - Wil Whiting

  • @NeilNatic
    @NeilNatic 6 років тому +9

    Of I could start my career over with no concern over money and the amount of time to be proficient I would def get into bespoke clothing or shoes. So fascinating

  • @georgelovesnopain
    @georgelovesnopain 3 роки тому +4

    Knowledge, Inspiration..and the flair of the Masters themselves. Great package! Thanks.

  • @c.w.9615
    @c.w.9615 6 років тому +23

    Is there an award for the most informative men's style channel? 1. The Hanger Project, 2. Gentlemen's Gazette, 3...

    • @konradallan
      @konradallan 6 років тому +12

      Check out Sartorial Talks also.

    • @c.w.9615
      @c.w.9615 6 років тому +1

      Yes!

    • @kirbyallison
      @kirbyallison  6 років тому +5

      Flattered!!🙏

    • @oussamachouichi5677
      @oussamachouichi5677 5 років тому +3

      Yeah, Mr Hugo is taking it to another level... I approve

    • @ChristopherKaspar
      @ChristopherKaspar 5 років тому +1

      My top 4: Hangar Project, Sartorial talks, Real Men Real Style and The Kavalier

  • @TheHugonShow
    @TheHugonShow 5 років тому +5

    Hello! Great video mr Kirby! I wanted to ask what's the title of the book mentioned in 23:06 ?

  • @Antique_engineer_
    @Antique_engineer_ 6 років тому +6

    Completely relate, graduated from computational science and found my calling in bespoke shoe making.

    • @kirbyallison
      @kirbyallison  6 років тому +2

      It's how magic happens sometimes... in the most unexpected ways! Someone who had been planning to go into shirtmaking probably would have conformed to the traditional approach instead of uprooting it, like Wil has.

  • @glenngray6859
    @glenngray6859 6 років тому +12

    Who wants Kirby’s hand me downs. The line forms behind me . Mr GQ always sharply dressed.

    • @kirbyallison
      @kirbyallison  6 років тому +6

      It seems I'm beginning to "grow" out a lot of things these days... hahaha

    • @glenngray6859
      @glenngray6859 6 років тому +1

      The Hanger Project
      Hook me up Kirby

  • @moondawg1439
    @moondawg1439 6 років тому +5

    Very excellent video. I don’t think I’ve ever had a shirt that fits perfectly. The Interaction between you and Wil was excellent , you had good questions and he really delved into his approach to shirt making. My wife has tailored many beautiful shirts for me through our 37 years of marriage and her work is flawless. Nonetheless, she is not a fitter, she uses premade patterns that are in themselves poorly planned/constructed , her major gripe . So I was drawn to the precision and insight of his work. Thank you.

    • @kirbyallison
      @kirbyallison  6 років тому +2

      That's exceptional! It must be very special to have your wife taken the care to alter your shirts!

  • @dainforsythe7129
    @dainforsythe7129 5 років тому +3

    I'm at time marker 14:18, and, already, this is easily the most informative video regarding the details of getting the shoulders proper to the person. Thank you, Kirby & Wil.

  • @lm0315
    @lm0315 6 років тому +3

    Excellent video as usual, very informative and fascinating. I do have a question though.
    He mentions something about knowing how to iron a shirt, is there a specific way to iron a shirt?
    I never really thought about it before but he seemed to have a specific method in mind based on what he said.

  • @christophergomez5993
    @christophergomez5993 5 років тому +2

    Bespoke doesn’t mean it’s quality there’s good shirts quality shirts in golden mile

  • @SunsetWingman
    @SunsetWingman Рік тому +1

    Is there a video showing the measurement process? It seems like it all starts with a first fitting

  • @escopetamartinez
    @escopetamartinez 3 роки тому +1

    I respect the art and craft, but I have seen regular guys with superb physiques look better with a Walmart shirt because in the end the body is more important than the cloth.

  • @jonathanmichaels8331
    @jonathanmichaels8331 2 роки тому

    After watching this I contacted this guy and they were so rude. Typical British service I guess. No wonder it’s a toilet place.

  • @rcsirish48
    @rcsirish48 6 років тому +4

    Outstanding discussion. I learned a great deal about the shirt making process.

  • @thomasbeckett1245
    @thomasbeckett1245 Рік тому

    That would be a giggle, having a shirt un suitable for a tie, going out, and hitting a restaurant that requires shoes, jackets and tie! Lol 😅

  • @chunkychinn
    @chunkychinn 4 роки тому +2

    Kirby that was absolutely brilliant. I think Wil was a bit nervous but he has not need to be, what a very talented young man I hope he goes from strength to strength. One factor tho please please only have the music on at the beginning and end, it was very distracting trying to listen to Will who’s very quiet anyway. Thankyou.

    • @thevalkyrie8
      @thevalkyrie8 10 місяців тому

      I thought Kirby seemed nervous not wil

  • @desmondding7405
    @desmondding7405 4 роки тому +1

    Good video Kirby. I have one question. How should unfused collar be ironed differently comparing to a fused collar?

  • @jonathanmichaels8331
    @jonathanmichaels8331 5 років тому +2

    This is the most Kirby has been when it comes to a casual look

  • @sduncanfoto
    @sduncanfoto 3 роки тому +2

    this guy is an artist

  • @karldelavigne8134
    @karldelavigne8134 5 років тому +1

    I'm afraid that even mention of a fused collar is heresy in a bespoke shirt and it is no mitigation to say it is used because a client does not know how to iron.

    • @Mrbrbusby
      @Mrbrbusby 5 років тому +3

      Maybe you missed this comment from Wil “I was taught certain things and told to accept them without question.” The other variations of the shacket, the buttonless top collar fit in with Wil’s daring approach to shirt making which includes darts and fused collars. This is where I see Wil’s stuff. www.adamoflondon.com/welcome/
      This stodgy neo com site from Texas is “an old fashioned band of married men, looking up to me for encouragement. It was so-so.” - Bowie.

  • @Illia.Rusakov
    @Illia.Rusakov 6 років тому +2

    Great video! It is obvious that Wil gives a lot of thinking to every aspect of a shirt. I am looking forward to see the final fitting and the result.

    • @kirbyallison
      @kirbyallison  6 років тому

      We were able to film the second fitting the last time we were in London... so it's already been shot. Should be airing sometime in November.

    • @Illia.Rusakov
      @Illia.Rusakov 6 років тому

      The Hanger Project I`ll be waiting) Thank you for the great content.

  • @markoduvall
    @markoduvall 6 років тому +1

    Great job, Kirby. This was extremely informative. I have naturally large traps as well, so I related to his process in shaping the shoulders. Most off the rack shirts offer more squared off shoulders.

    • @kirbyallison
      @kirbyallison  6 років тому

      He did some even more sculpting at the second fitting.

  • @blockboikb21
    @blockboikb21 4 роки тому +1

    17:46 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @1061shrink1061
    @1061shrink1061 6 років тому +2

    Hah, nice to see him making a good V60... scales and all.

    • @kirbyallison
      @kirbyallison  6 років тому +2

      It was an exceptional cup of coffee!

    • @1061shrink1061
      @1061shrink1061 6 років тому

      The Hanger Project well it’s good to know that style and taste extends fully through someone’s life.
      Having had to store my espresso machine for a year v60 has been my saviour!
      That and wardrobe boxes !

  • @AfroFM
    @AfroFM 6 років тому +1

    Interesting series on bespoke items Kirby. Keep it up.
    Could you check the name of the book on fabrics. And if possible an ISBN number. I'd be interested in reading it.
    Thanks.

    • @kirbyallison
      @kirbyallison  6 років тому +3

      A lot of these books are out of print... but I'll ask Wil.

    • @AfroFM
      @AfroFM 6 років тому

      The Hanger Project Thanks!

    • @zerominuseleven
      @zerominuseleven 2 роки тому +1

      Curious to know the name of this book as well?

  • @mbaxter22
    @mbaxter22 4 роки тому

    Brave choice on those high-wasted pants. It takes a confident man to pull that off.

  • @janekokoszko7525
    @janekokoszko7525 5 років тому +1

    Wil seems to be more relaxed this time.

  • @deanhoban9517
    @deanhoban9517 2 роки тому

    Great video as always- especially Kirby sipping his tea

  • @CraigDRolle
    @CraigDRolle 6 років тому +2

    The fit on his shirts seems a bit tight for my tastes.

    • @kirbyallison
      @kirbyallison  6 років тому +4

      Craig Rolle Purely dictates by the customer. Part of the initial conversation.

    • @CraigDRolle
      @CraigDRolle 6 років тому +2

      Point taken.

  • @petermaag9622
    @petermaag9622 6 років тому +4

    How many coffees does this guy make!?
    No kidding though, great video Kirby.

    • @kirbyallison
      @kirbyallison  6 років тому +7

      Well, each V60 only made two small cups, and we were a crew of four. He was very hospitable.

  • @neilgarrett4087
    @neilgarrett4087 5 років тому

    Hi guys, love you channel so much information. Can I ask what your recommendation is for the amount of ease you would add for a euro, slim or classic fit shirt. And, Wil is fantastic, would love to have the knowledge he has in bespoke. Thanks for any info. Carlin Martin

  • @jojoremeny
    @jojoremeny 4 роки тому +1

    Supposed to be one of the world's best shirt makers,!! Says who!!? His own shirt is pulling on shoulder area, meaning his shoulder slope is not angled correctly. If you watch him actually cutting out a pattern or sewing, it's evident that he Doesn't sew or pattern cut for a living, he's like a. Beginner, really slow. Any bespoke tailor or shirt tailor is totally nimble and fast with sewing and pattern cutting
    This guy just jets around the world marketing his brand and not actually cutting or sewing each bespoke shirt!!.
    Even this Whiting admitted he has a team behind him making all the shirts.. It's these people who are the real artisans.. He should video these skilled sewers and pattern cutters!!
    I design, pattern cut and, make every design myself for men and women...

    • @cianmacken5475
      @cianmacken5475 3 роки тому +2

      Agreed, his shirt is horrific

    • @jojoremeny
      @jojoremeny 3 роки тому +1

      ​@@cianmacken5475 it never ceases to amaze me how these so called 'influencers' use these hyped up craftsman who are not craftsman or real artisans at all !!!. This Wil whiting was up until a few years ago ,a computer trading geek and all of a sudden is labelled as the worlds best shirt maker !!.if you watch him in any videos he uploaded ,you can evidently see how slow he is at cutting and sewing ,this clearly shows he does not really sew shirts or even cuts shirts. As a fashion designer and tailor myself ,i design ,cut and sew every design you see. I'm currently making a series of new videos on how to cut and sew women and mens attire. This series includes: Draping a hip block and waistblock . Sewing a sheath dress from beginning to completion. Draping a tailored waistcoat for Men and Women. sewing a bespoke waistcoat . Cutting a bespoke mens trousers. Making a pair of mens bespoke trousers.
      My first video is ready to buy 'Draping a waistblock and Hipblock for women Part 1 . This will be uploaded to my new ecommerce website which will be live on January 21st. www.jojoremeny.com .Later in the new year ,i will be making a series on shirt making for men and women ..

    • @Beechgoose1
      @Beechgoose1 2 роки тому

      @@jojoremeny Maybe Kirby thinks expensive equals "best" .

  • @darlenevm
    @darlenevm 4 роки тому

    Kirby - I absolutely love the suit, shirt and tie you’re wearing in this video. Gorgeous.

  • @TheMikehotel
    @TheMikehotel 3 роки тому

    Does he make Navy shirts for war though?

  • @pdeeditgoshen2479
    @pdeeditgoshen2479 6 років тому +1

    I be been fascinated by this video. Very awesome!

  • @mach5jeep
    @mach5jeep 4 роки тому

    Sansabelt slacks? oh no...

  • @akanuwa6105
    @akanuwa6105 6 років тому

    Great video. We hope to see the shirts when its all ready. Nice Video, Kirby.

  • @sduncanfoto
    @sduncanfoto 3 роки тому

    a tie with a shirt for no tie

  • @Myrslokstok
    @Myrslokstok 6 років тому +1

    Washing must be a problem.

    • @Myrslokstok
      @Myrslokstok 6 років тому +3

      Ok wrong by me:
      “I’m very particular about shrinkage - I pre-treat the fabric twice before it’s cut, and once the shirt is made I want the customer to ‘wash and wear’, because I know I’m not going to change how people wash their clothes.”

    • @kirbyallison
      @kirbyallison  6 років тому +2

      Myrslokstok Wil is incredibly scientific... he takes into account all of these things in his own methodical obsessive way!

  • @JSn00py
    @JSn00py 6 років тому +1

    How much does a shirt cost?

    • @kirbyallison
      @kirbyallison  6 років тому

      He has three price ranges that depend on the amount of handwork. You'll have to check his website.

  • @berk1one483
    @berk1one483 3 роки тому

    Please no music

  • @heinerlauter1211
    @heinerlauter1211 5 років тому

    12:28 bit afraid of needles Mr. Allison?

  • @chandruchandru2408
    @chandruchandru2408 2 роки тому

    Tq sar

  • @winvee290
    @winvee290 6 років тому

    Thank you Kirby

  • @ANDREWISHERWOODMUSIC
    @ANDREWISHERWOODMUSIC 5 років тому

    What are this white trousers

  • @ergudmun2
    @ergudmun2 6 років тому

    Great as always!

  • @mikejessable
    @mikejessable 6 років тому +1

    Thanks Kirby, that is really a neat process when it comes to making a shirt, I like the way this guy thinks and works. Thanks for sharing.

    • @kirbyallison
      @kirbyallison  6 років тому +2

      He has a very technical approach, which I've really appreciated. Check out his instagram. Some beautiful stuff there.

    • @mikejessable
      @mikejessable 6 років тому

      The Hanger Project Will do Kirby. Thanks my friend.

  • @Schnitzeljunge
    @Schnitzeljunge 6 років тому +1

    First

  • @genecheeseman8204
    @genecheeseman8204 6 років тому +1

    He meticulous with so many aspects of his life it seems but the guy can’t get a beard brush and make his facial hair not look god awful?

  • @quarlmephystodot2201
    @quarlmephystodot2201 Рік тому

    disappointing