Walking With Beasts: Episode 2 - Whale Killer Retrospective

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  • Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
  • My review of the second episode of the 2001 BBC Show Walking With Beasts, Whale Killer. Covering accuracy, plot and personal thoughts. Enjoy!

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  • @bkjeong4302
    @bkjeong4302 11 місяців тому +57

    Basilosaurus’s habitat is actually backwards in this episode (it was NOT a pelagic animal, but a costal predator found in shallow waters-and it wasn’t a “rare visitor” to Egypt’s shallow seas, it was quite common there and that was where it hunted Dorudon calves). This isn’t due to the episode being outdated: that was something known as far back as 1998 and is thus the result of poor research during production.

  • @adamthespinygiant
    @adamthespinygiant 11 місяців тому +32

    “The large killer birds are no longer much in evidence”
    South American terror birds and land crocodiles and Australia that is still ruled by reptiles: “Are you sure about that?”

    • @speedracer2008
      @speedracer2008 10 місяців тому +6

      To be fair, Kenneth does say they were replaced on MOST continents, indicating that the show does acknowledge this.

    • @UnwantedGhost1-anz25
      @UnwantedGhost1-anz25 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@speedracer2008 I wonder if the Terror birds would have lasted longer if there was a land bridge between North and South America back in the early Cenozoic?

  • @unnaturalhistorychannel
    @unnaturalhistorychannel 11 місяців тому +24

    Stumbled on these retrospectives and have been really enjoying them. Far more indepth than my own and leaving no stone unturned. Keen to see more!

  • @speedracer2008
    @speedracer2008 11 місяців тому +17

    The music that plays when the female Embolotherium chases off the first Andrewsarchus as it attempts to sneak up on her reuses the music from when the Liopleurodon's ability to drag its massive bulk, thanks to its 3-meter long flippers, is described. Specifically, the few seconds before Kenneth says "It is impossible to say whether this mother even understands that her calf is dead."

  • @speedracer2008
    @speedracer2008 11 місяців тому +9

    I’ve heard 60 tons is an overestimation for Basilosaurus, as that would only be plausible if it had blubber, which it probably didn’t, due to the warm water it lived in. 15-20 tons is probably more likely.

  • @speedracer2008
    @speedracer2008 11 місяців тому +9

    The Moeritherium noise is reused in Walking with Monsters (2005) for the Inostrancevia at one point. I wonder what they used to make it. Also, I love that shot of blood trailing from the Basilosaurus mouth after it kills the sharks and the blood trailing from the Physogaleus after it kills the Apidium. The guitar strings playing afterwards just hammer in how dangerous the situation is.

    • @kandyeggs
      @kandyeggs 11 місяців тому +1

      I’m pretty sure the sound is mildly edited from a panda’s bleat!

    • @AncientRealms1999
      @AncientRealms1999  11 місяців тому +3

      @@kandyeggs similar to the Propalaeotherium then

  • @gianmarcozampella5138
    @gianmarcozampella5138 11 місяців тому +6

    as a kid,I remember thinking the Basilosaurus was the coolest thing I'd ever seen 'till that point,and that epic theme that accompanied it helped a lot.
    I also remember loving the Lucky Escape scene so much that I would recreate it whenever I was at sea,playing the role of the female Basilosaurus of course,that's probably why,as much as I love Hogs Blood,I have to choose that track as my favorite of the episode,especially the part when the last wave of the tide comes full speed,building up the tension and what's going to unfold.
    P.S. Really enjoyed the meme moments

  • @Godzillakuj94
    @Godzillakuj94 11 місяців тому +5

    This episode has gotta have the best soundtrack bits in the whole Walking With series. Really dig the track that plays when the Entelodonts (episode after this one whoops) are grouping up and when the mother Basilosaurus has to hunt the Dorudon.

    • @speedracer2008
      @speedracer2008 11 місяців тому

      Hogs Blood. It uses the music from both scenes.

  • @thenerdbeast7375
    @thenerdbeast7375 11 місяців тому +10

    To be fair assuming Andrewsarchus was a Mesonychid wasn't a bad guess at the time, there really wasn't much to go on then and still isn't.

  • @dont-hurt-me2519
    @dont-hurt-me2519 11 місяців тому +7

    Don't know if you noticed, but at 8:17, you can see some of the Andrewsarchu puppet's wiring sticking out in the bottom right corner of the screen. Maybe that's why these extra scenes were left out of the original WWB?

    • @AncientRealms1999
      @AncientRealms1999  11 місяців тому +2

      Yeah I did see that, that's probably why it's not in the episode, unless it was filmed afterwards

  • @ek9509
    @ek9509 8 місяців тому +1

    13:20: Later, in Andy’s Prehistoric Adventures (during the same episode with the Andrewsarchus, after Andy has just arrived into the time period), they present to us the same crabs “showing us a little dance”, as Andy greets them. I thought that was a pretty neat way to actually show us a proper reason for the crabs being there at all.

  • @HodgePodge7
    @HodgePodge7 11 місяців тому +4

    All my life I thought that whale vertebrae on the beach was a tree stump...
    Fantastic review of my personal favourite episode!

    • @AncientRealms1999
      @AncientRealms1999  11 місяців тому +3

      I guess that vertebrae reveal left you... stumped.

    • @speedracer2008
      @speedracer2008 11 місяців тому +1

      @@AncientRealms1999I was surprised that Hodgepodge didn’t point out the whale vertebrae in his review of Whale Killer. Now, his comment explains a few things.

    • @UnwantedGhost1-anz25
      @UnwantedGhost1-anz25 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@AncientRealms1999 I bet that the Andrewsarchus scavenge from the carcass some time ago. Practically devouring a cousin species. 😂

    • @speedracer2008
      @speedracer2008 8 місяців тому

      @@UnwantedGhost1-anz25 I think the Andrewsarchus sniffing the whale backbone is meant to imply that.

  • @speedracer2008
    @speedracer2008 11 місяців тому +4

    Not gonna lie, after I saw the Andrewsarchus bouncing off after the Embolotherium threw it away from her calf, I started mimicking the limp whenever I walked away from a situation.

  • @UnwantedGhost1-anz25
    @UnwantedGhost1-anz25 8 місяців тому +2

    The Tethys Sea was also closed off by the collision between Southern Asia and Northern Asia to give birth to the tallest mountains on Earth currently. Where there's marine fossils.

    • @canonbehenna612
      @canonbehenna612 7 місяців тому +1

      And then it would become nothing but a salt desert

  • @JohnSmith-rk7zy
    @JohnSmith-rk7zy 11 місяців тому +3

    Great series I’m glad it’s continuing

  • @Toshiro93
    @Toshiro93 11 місяців тому +3

    When I first saw it, I remember finding it the least captivating episode of the series: interesting, for sure. and at several moments very beautiful, but compared to others, it struck me less in the imagination.
    However, I greatly appreciated this episode of the retrospective, and I re-evaluated some aspects that I didn't fully appreciate as a child.
    I agree with you on the use of practical effects, and digital ones: the story conveyed is simple, but is told effectively.
    great work - keep it up!

  • @UnwantedGhost1-anz25
    @UnwantedGhost1-anz25 8 місяців тому +2

    Funnily enough, the Sahara Desert used to be a green savanna paradise not that long ago. I wonder if that'll ever happen again?

  • @j.m.marshall669
    @j.m.marshall669 7 місяців тому

    Nice touches with the Embolotherium being silenced by the Dalek, and the Andrewsarchus terminators :)

  • @UnwantedGhost1-anz25
    @UnwantedGhost1-anz25 8 місяців тому +2

    They should have had an ancestor or relative of the Nile Crocodile swimming & narrowly missing the female Basilosaurus in the shallow Egyptian sea. Referencing the last episode with Ambulacetus.

  • @UnwantedGhost1-anz25
    @UnwantedGhost1-anz25 8 місяців тому +2

    There's also a possibility that the ancestors of Megaldons or other large sharks during this time period likely preyed on some unfortunate Durudons. Or descendants of Mosasuars that somehow survived. 😂

  • @speedracer2008
    @speedracer2008 11 місяців тому

    I love the music that plays as the Andrewsarchus tussle for the calf. It perfectly captures the sneakiness of the scavengers.

  • @ek9509
    @ek9509 8 місяців тому +1

    16:40: LOL. Hell, on this episode’s latest rewatch, I actually thought similar to you.

  • @alt-animefan3231
    @alt-animefan3231 11 місяців тому

    brontothere out here just dropping those sick beats with his homeboys

  • @countsnowyofgwainn3996
    @countsnowyofgwainn3996 9 місяців тому

    I love these vids and I can't wait to see the next ones

  • @Grand_History
    @Grand_History 11 місяців тому +1

    You left out the unintentional poetry of including Andrewsarchus in an episode about whales. Given that we now think they were closely related to hippos (which are themselves the closest living land mammal to whales), this episode can be seen as viewing the two big branches of whale evolution in the early Cenozoic; those that remained terrestrial and those that became fully marine, with our knowledge that the latter was the branch that found major success in our modern ecosystems.

  • @Spacekid_Productions
    @Spacekid_Productions 11 місяців тому +1

    this is really nicely done. Cant wait to see you analyse the next episode 😊

  • @Garryzilla
    @Garryzilla 10 місяців тому +1

    1:49 ok that yeet got me good

  • @UnwantedGhost1-anz25
    @UnwantedGhost1-anz25 8 місяців тому +1

    They should have used a model of Otodus O. that's a member of the now extinct mega tooth shark family. And possible ancestors to Otodus Megalodons at the beginning of this episode.

  • @CameronKiesser
    @CameronKiesser 11 місяців тому

    Has to be one of my fav episodes in Walking With.

  • @speedracer2008
    @speedracer2008 11 місяців тому +1

    It's possible that the claws on the Andrewsarchus model are meant to be hoof-like toes, akin to the Propaleotherium toes.

  • @sevenidols607
    @sevenidols607 11 місяців тому +2

    Did Arsinoitherium and Moeritherium live at the same time and place as basilosaurus? I've been trying to confirm. But Wikipedia is not clear

  • @Lord.Kiltridge
    @Lord.Kiltridge 11 місяців тому

    I'm really enjoying the episodes so far. I swear your voice sounds familiar. Though it could just be the London accent.
    Does Valerian mean anything to you?

  • @speedracer2008
    @speedracer2008 11 місяців тому

    2:01 I knew that was coming. You, along with Red Raptor Writes and Trey the Explainer, use some of the funniest memes.

  • @TrolliNaattori
    @TrolliNaattori 11 місяців тому

    So great work!❤

  • @kkupsky6321
    @kkupsky6321 11 місяців тому

    I thought this was cardboard doug for a second. Don’t go all seven days of it. Good show mate.

  • @UnwantedGhost1-anz25
    @UnwantedGhost1-anz25 8 місяців тому +1

    Why haven't the dominant marine reptiles survived to compete with the sharks & marine mammals over the entire Cenozoic era? Or crocodiles try filling the Mosasuars niche?

  • @js1423
    @js1423 11 місяців тому +1

    Great video! Will you do Walking with Dinosaurs after Beasts?

  • @ThePalaeontologist
    @ThePalaeontologist 11 місяців тому

    Nicely done.

  • @dplocksmith91
    @dplocksmith91 11 місяців тому

    The Andrewsarchus were in a pick-up pack XD

  • @francissemyon7971
    @francissemyon7971 11 місяців тому +1

    There is no way Basilosaurus massed 60 tonnes.

  • @speedracer2008
    @speedracer2008 11 місяців тому

    This video did not disappoint

  • @kkupsky6321
    @kkupsky6321 11 місяців тому

    I thought Aw man Not and then the Monty Python made an appearance and I realised this isn’t the ancient channel to sleep to. Just be tasteful.

  • @jon_the_guanlong
    @jon_the_guanlong 11 місяців тому

    Well done, lad

  • @thegreatprimevalshow
    @thegreatprimevalshow 11 місяців тому +1

    Killer Whale is Sueing you.

  • @tyrannotherium7873
    @tyrannotherium7873 11 місяців тому

    I didn’t know that the location in the second episode was in Florida. For some reason I thought it was somewhere else

    • @AncientRealms1999
      @AncientRealms1999  11 місяців тому +1

      The mangroves definitely are, for the scrublands it might be somewhere else

    • @speedracer2008
      @speedracer2008 11 місяців тому +1

      @@AncientRealms1999I’ve heard that the scrublands were shot in Mexico, where Land of Giants was also shot (albeit with additional shots in Arizona).

    • @AncientRealms1999
      @AncientRealms1999  11 місяців тому

      @@speedracer2008 yes just found that out but too late for the video

  • @tabbymolesworth9363
    @tabbymolesworth9363 11 місяців тому

    Excuse me , can you please do land of giants next?

  • @maozilla9149
    @maozilla9149 11 місяців тому

    cool

  • @mythplatypuspwned
    @mythplatypuspwned 10 місяців тому +1

    2:28 Madagascar reference 🤣

  • @rileyohrt7256
    @rileyohrt7256 11 місяців тому

    Is nobody gonna talk about how funny this bit was? 2:28

  • @BigBoiFobbs2011
    @BigBoiFobbs2011 11 місяців тому

    Can you do Another episode like land of giants

  • @filipkopec525
    @filipkopec525 11 місяців тому

    It's a shame that it's shorter than the previous one, but it's also understendable given that you don't want o repeat talking about the same things

  • @Paulinaaa-im4re
    @Paulinaaa-im4re 6 місяців тому

    15:12

  • @kkupsky6321
    @kkupsky6321 11 місяців тому

    Dude. Comon. Horns under water max it rated r. I’ve never heard a French horn underwater. And as a semen I know. Seaman? Honestly I’m just tryin to help the algorithm.

  • @IreneJacobo
    @IreneJacobo 5 місяців тому

    15:10 to 15:14

  • @LizardMan78
    @LizardMan78 2 місяці тому

    e