“ITS ALL GENETICS AND STEROIDS” = COPE 🤡

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  • @mattvena226
    @mattvena226  21 день тому +4

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  • @joecowan3719
    @joecowan3719 21 день тому +118

    Bugez has always been right when he says it's a MINDSET!!!

    • @JuggoJuggo
      @JuggoJuggo 20 днів тому

      Pretty soon Matt will be horsecocking all over the place.

    • @quickcar5255
      @quickcar5255 15 днів тому

      Wwe wrestlers are notorious liars and steroid abusers.

  • @Egoliftdaily
    @Egoliftdaily 21 день тому +27

    Mindset is a big factor. You can actually impose a self-limiting belief if you're not exposed to what's humanly possible or lack belief in your capabilities. I sure did over a decade ago.
    Long story short:
    >DL got up to 400lbs in late 2011 and was stuck there until early 2013.
    >Saw a video of a powerlifter named Ben Rice who looked like an average person. It opened up my mind to what's possible.
    >DL got up to 500+ lbs within 6 months in 2013.

  • @ourboyhemingway
    @ourboyhemingway 21 день тому +29

    Liked, subscribed, commenting, edging, training the algorithm to reward you so we get more long(er) form videos

  • @shycreation9418
    @shycreation9418 20 днів тому +40

    Greg dbag or whatever his name is telling everyone "without good genetics a 315 bench is impossible" pisses me off

    • @jesseb5710
      @jesseb5710 18 днів тому +2

      Douchette?

    • @llamaryder1
      @llamaryder1 18 днів тому +6

      God that video made me mad. I started out benching/squatting less than the bar. I had 0 experience in sports and was terribly uncoordinated. I was a fat kid with 0 athleticism all through school. I started lifting late in middle school and completely changed my body. Now im natural and have a 395 bench and 585 lb deadlift. Over the past year ive put 60+ lbs on my bench and 100 on my deadlift. I don't consider myself to have good or bad genetics. I don't want to know and I don't care. All that matters is that I do what I can do.
      I also am nowhere near optimized. I miss a session on average probably every other week and smoke a pack of cigs a day. But I've been at it for years. There were long stretches where I stopped or I'd be a lot stronger.

    • @stanleyextra2812
      @stanleyextra2812 18 днів тому +2

      @@llamaryder1 Your definition of "good genetics" is way off though. He didn't actually mean those freak elite genetics. It means above average genetics. And you know that the average American human is out of shape if not obese right? Add to the fact that humans are built for stamina rather than strength like gorillas and chimps. Social media is twisting our perception of what is "average". Like it or not, me, you and most of these guys here probably, belong to good genetics category and what Greg said isn't wrong

    • @icy3037
      @icy3037 18 днів тому +6

      @@stanleyextra2812 you have absolutely no idea what the average able-bodied person is capable of. Social media is twisting our idea of what's possible, but in the lower direction with all this genetics talk. Put in work and you'll bench 315 unless you're really trying to stay at some very low bodyweight. The average American is out of shape due to their lifestyle, not their genetics and physical potential.

    • @tsavage4337
      @tsavage4337 18 днів тому

      @@llamaryder1how long have you been lifting man? I hit 250 on the bench a couple of years ago and I’ve stalled out for a while with small increases. I’ve started to try to bulk up again though because I think I’m just not the guy who can bench 315+ at only 195 body weight. That is probably my issue but I still couldn’t imagine being able to put 60lbs on the bench after being that trained though.

  • @_bresky_
    @_bresky_ 21 день тому +16

    the most successful people in the gym are the people that just love to train and push hard.

  • @Prsethsun
    @Prsethsun 20 днів тому +10

    100% agree. When I had a 235 bench, the fastest way I worked up to and made progress to 3 plates was by hitting 5 pound PRs extremely often, and despite by small chest, and long arms, I eventually got to where I wanted to be. Keep the grind up boys.
    (Don’t do what I did though, maxing out every week or two, though it worked out for me, its generally not sustainable or a good idea)

  • @bobibufi1389
    @bobibufi1389 19 днів тому +4

    Saying that "it's all genetics and steroids = cope" - it's such cope..
    First, absolute statements are not worth a debate, of course is never all genetics or all hard work or all steroids etc., but a mix of all factors.
    Genetics and response to steroids play HUGE role - saying it as a person who has been training for 28+years and seen thousands of athletes grow.
    Often genetically gifted athletes do not want their natural gift, stroke of luck really, to take credit - so they insist their success is a result of mainly their hard work, when it is many times debatable, rest assured there are people out there with maniacal dedication who work harder than you.
    This message is then heard by eager followers with average genetics who follow their hero and who then think that by working hard they can overcome every obstacle - they cannot.
    General rule is a rule of 1 year for me - if you come to a gym and you are supremely gifted in say strength sport, then it has to show either right from the very start or even with average start there has to be insane progression within first year. If you are hardly the strongest guy in your small local gym after one year - you will never the strongest man in the world, period.
    Harsh but true, if people have very competitive personality, they should try a handful of sports first to see their probabilities of greatness.

  • @ChrisFood
    @ChrisFood 15 днів тому +2

    You forgot about the most important factor, Squat Plug size.

  • @sangheiliwarrior86
    @sangheiliwarrior86 20 днів тому +4

    The genetics and roids thing are both largely true, but you will be demonstrably better off by just getting bigger/stronger anyways.

  • @RevolutionNatty
    @RevolutionNatty 20 днів тому +2

    Exacly what worked for me: mindset. Everytime o SEE ppl Talking about genetics, I realize that they try to simplify everything in a superficial way or simply make excuses.

  • @karrimzz
    @karrimzz 20 днів тому +4

    "train,eat,sleep, repeat" rippetoe

  • @drschwandi3687
    @drschwandi3687 21 день тому +3

    I feel like caring about genetics is only productive if you are putting yourself down by comparing yourself to others. Some lifters are just on another level and there is nothing you can do to be stronger than them. Some people will be stronger after 2-3 years of training than you will be after a lifetime of rigorous training.

  • @1TieDye1
    @1TieDye1 20 днів тому +3

    Thanks for addressing some strats to deal with neuroticism

  • @999awesomekid
    @999awesomekid 20 днів тому

    Keep up the bangers matt

  • @SethBeck
    @SethBeck 21 день тому +3

    I’m a byproduct of the positive mental mindset. I also take failures as teachable moments.

    • @pupper5580
      @pupper5580 17 днів тому

      "and that's how I met your mother"

  • @octavio5051
    @octavio5051 20 днів тому

    Can you please make a video explanation on tapering before a maxout/meet? Love the vids keep it up man

  • @ifyouseekay1000
    @ifyouseekay1000 20 днів тому +3

    The mind conquers all

  • @GudMarty
    @GudMarty 15 днів тому

    It happens at all levels too. Like I’m fairly advanced and my 3rd attempts at meets a lot of the times are like RPE 8.5
    I really need to say fuck it sometimes and go for it.

  • @PotatoSlices
    @PotatoSlices 18 днів тому +2

    Revival Fitness saying that you can't bench lift 225 lbs naturally without decent genetics.

  • @brendan638
    @brendan638 16 днів тому

    I use straps on super heavy top sets of deadlifts but then mixed grip for backdown or volume working sets.

  • @Egoliftdaily
    @Egoliftdaily 21 день тому +4

    BBL Drizzy noti squad 🔔

  • @williambrinkmeier1772
    @williambrinkmeier1772 19 днів тому +1

    I am natural long arms with a 490 bench pr when i was 14 i could only bench the bar people are too busy making idiotic excuses then training hard .

  • @GIGASHAGGY-ZOINKS.
    @GIGASHAGGY-ZOINKS. 14 днів тому

    Its all about mindset man im the best dude

  • @soapymcsoap978
    @soapymcsoap978 17 днів тому

    The studies you showed seem interesting about placebo effect on gains. Are there any more studies you use as a reference

  • @easy_eight2810
    @easy_eight2810 20 днів тому

    I ignore gym related social media entirely aside from fitness tips. You'll only see the best that is popular, it is true that a few of them are natural, yet the large majority of fitness influencers aren't

    • @lyft4238
      @lyft4238 16 днів тому

      Yep me too
      I'd see a 15 year old pull 900lbs and it'll instantly kill your mood
      Makes me wonder why I'm training at all

  • @BenjaminKuruga
    @BenjaminKuruga 18 днів тому +1

    This video will get skipped over easy. I feel like this phenomenon is why records break like crazy when a previously-thought untouchable record is broken. It's not always magic new drugs, or some perfect programming - the person just isn't a pussy stays consistent, breaks a record and now everyone REALIZES oh wow, that can be done.

  • @anonymouswalker7921
    @anonymouswalker7921 21 день тому +17

    This man deadlifted 600 at 18 btw. lol

    • @AMan-vs4vs
      @AMan-vs4vs 21 день тому +8

      *sumo

    • @mimoosa7390
      @mimoosa7390 19 днів тому +2

      ​@@AMan-vs4vs, doesn't mattress

    • @lyft4238
      @lyft4238 16 днів тому +1

      ​@@AMan-vs4vsGuess half of the ipf sumo pullers are clowns by your logic?

  • @Darrylfelisilda
    @Darrylfelisilda 20 днів тому

    Hey Matt I love your videos I have a question how is the legion pre workout I tried many pre workouts before I wanted to know if this pre workout be beneficial for my powerlifting needs thanks 😁

  • @RevivePerformance
    @RevivePerformance 15 днів тому

    Matt do u think pre workout works? Especially if you're a 9-5 desk job worker, to get good output in the gym? Have u used a pre workout? What's your experience?

  • @runix2189
    @runix2189 18 днів тому +1

    Train hard for 3-5 years, if your not the strongest guy in the gym don't take the thing too seriously. Guys with good genetics who start skinny because they had no training experience and thinking they don't have good genetics because they couldn't bench 95lbs just means they have no brains. Good genetics is your body's response and adaptation to stimulus. Some people start with a 45lbs bench and are overhead pressing 365 at sub 200lbs in 5 years. Some people start with a 135lbs bench and 10 years later are benching 205lbs. With optimized programming and doing everything right and putting your life into it you can get strong, you still won't be hitting world records. So don't waste your life doing it.

  • @Julian-ml7go
    @Julian-ml7go 20 днів тому +13

    "Most men will never hit a 315lbs bench press, it's simply genetics!!" *in high pitch parot voice*

    • @jaysons8050
      @jaysons8050 20 днів тому +4

      It's true. 315 lbs bench press will not be achievable by most lifters. Been lifting at commercial gyms for 24 yrs visiting a ton of gyms in many different states/cities (I travel for work) and I've only seen less than 10 people lift at least 315 lbs

    • @zekrinealfa1113
      @zekrinealfa1113 20 днів тому +1

      I don't know if I'll ever get there, but who cares I enjoy the process. It may be hard given I have long arms (great for deadlifts though), and that I cannot bulk up too much past 85 kg (my stomach gets irritated by the amount of food and I get digestive issues). But fuck it, I'll just keep training, I have nothing better to do anyways.

    • @paavoilves5416
      @paavoilves5416 20 днів тому +5

      @@jaysons8050 Most people can't squat 225lbs either. Because they don't go to the gym. Most people also don't train to bench 315lbs.

    • @Your_nearest_toyota_dealer
      @Your_nearest_toyota_dealer 20 днів тому +1

      ​@@zekrinealfa1113you will not if you say "i cannot bulk up too much past 85kg" you can but youre giving yourself excuses, or not doing it the right way

    • @Your_nearest_toyota_dealer
      @Your_nearest_toyota_dealer 20 днів тому

      ​@@jaysons8050then youre probably going to planet fitness.
      Ive seen at least 5 people bench more than 315 while training in public gyms for ~3 years

  • @exodus3504
    @exodus3504 20 днів тому

    Yo matt i was wondering if its possible to add more hypertrophy work for muscle gain in a sheiko program, would be great to know thanks

  • @sirhoistsalot1
    @sirhoistsalot1 6 днів тому

    Hey just wanted to ask what you think of sheiko programming? I’m planning on getting sheiko gold lifetime sub as it seems simple and I don’t have to think much besides on getting my technique set.

  • @drednac
    @drednac 19 днів тому

    Fun fact is that I got a comprehensive DNA testing done few years back and as it turned out my potential for growing muscle suppose to be under-average and I should had slightly higher potential for power. At that point I already knew that I can build decent amount of muscle .. so genetics is for sure not everything, if you work hard enough for long enough you are still going to be better than most gymbros.

  • @demoncore5342
    @demoncore5342 20 днів тому +4

    Is it just me, or do you get better genetics the longer you train?

    • @jaysons8050
      @jaysons8050 20 днів тому

      😂 do you know, what genetics is?

    • @demoncore5342
      @demoncore5342 20 днів тому +3

      @@jaysons8050 I know what DNA is an how it works, thanks for asking. Do you know what sarcasm is?

    • @halfnattyboomer354
      @halfnattyboomer354 13 днів тому +1

      Better genetics is the wrong way to put it. Your body will upregulate or down regulate the expression of your genes in response to the stress you're placing on your body. The guy laughing and saying "Do you know what genetics is?" Probably has no idea what he's on about, you might appear to have bad genes for building muscle, but the genetic test that says that may have failed to factor in that you have myostatin genes that down regulate more than average in response to training and through this unanticipated mechanism lead to good muscle growth. There's so many little nuances to genetic expression that unless you actually try, aka train consistently, intelligently, eat properly and sleep well you won't really be able to tell how good or bad your genetic potential is for muscle growth. Epigenetics make predicting outcomes based on genetics difficult. Take identical twins and raise them in different places, or find adult twins who are 50+ and took different paths in life and they will end up with significant differences in gene expression even though they are genetically identical.
      What I'm saying is that training will have an impact on your gene expression, and the genes you do have related to muscle growth will become more or less active in response. So you don't get better genes, but you get better gene expression for the genes you have.

  • @paoloh885
    @paoloh885 20 днів тому +1

    Sounds like what someone with good genetics would say hahaha.
    But for real, while mental blocks are a thing, people definitely have different upper limits. Someone who had to work their ass off for a 1.5xbw squat is way less likely to squat 3xbw than someone who could do it after a couple sessions.

  • @harleyzeth
    @harleyzeth 12 днів тому

    When it comes to bodybuilding, it is all drugs and genetics. There is zero consistency whatsoever among the top bodybuilders. They can even have complete opposite training philosophy, yet the two things they all have are drugs and genetics. Powerlifting and weightlifting don't have this same situation.

  • @subzero4579
    @subzero4579 21 день тому

    Just do Bill Starr's The Strongest Shall Survive program for 2-years and you'll be gtg

  • @labtdu
    @labtdu 21 день тому +1

    W video.

  • @taitcarrillo8926
    @taitcarrillo8926 15 днів тому

    It is genetics and steroids
    But I can get jacked and strong anyway
    Because it’s only genetics and steroids FOR THEM

  • @andrewtanczyk4009
    @andrewtanczyk4009 18 днів тому +2

    I’m # 500 like 👍!

  • @gabrielpichorim8191
    @gabrielpichorim8191 15 днів тому

    If it wasn't about genetics we would see girls "working hard with the right mindset" and hitting 400kg deadlifts or squats. We know this is not true because this is impossible for their frames, the same way it is impossible for 90% of male population.
    Why do east africans dominate distance running? Why do Chinese doninate lighter weight classes in weight lifting but when it comes to the heavyweights their optimal program doesn't work?

  • @abcdefg-ox6mu
    @abcdefg-ox6mu 20 днів тому

    It’s supposed to be two different people on each side buddy

  • @Luke41lol
    @Luke41lol 19 днів тому

    Your arms are looking big

  • @MyWatermelonz
    @MyWatermelonz 18 днів тому +3

    It's more like 70% genetics, 20% mindset, 10% roids. Genetics mean way too much with how strong and how much muscle you can gain.
    Average level of fitness is impressive among the general population. People just like to discount genetics because it downplays their "hard work." Same with how rich kids gotta talk about how hard they worked. The world isn't so fair that some idealized notion of "hard work" equalizes everything. Especially when it can't even be quantified. You'll just get told you aren't working hard enough if you don't make progress or do as well as someone else at an endeavor. This protects their ego.

  • @NicksFitnessYT
    @NicksFitnessYT 20 днів тому +1

    Matt da 🐐no 🧢

  • @kylewarren69
    @kylewarren69 20 днів тому +2

    mattvena226 do you believe in me?

  • @DiscoLizzard
    @DiscoLizzard 15 днів тому

    2:05 GYATT

  • @mattvena226
    @mattvena226  21 день тому +11

    1st

    • @Andreastheduck
      @Andreastheduck 21 день тому +17

      U had Superior genetics for being first tho

    • @Jhev1000
      @Jhev1000 21 день тому +2

      def not a natty comment

    • @moussaboisbande3931
      @moussaboisbande3931 21 день тому

      Superior response time ofc.

    • @gyrozeppeli7296
      @gyrozeppeli7296 21 день тому +3

      Short arms allowed you for better leverages which made you 1st, not everyone won the genetic lottery🙄🙄🙄

  • @Na-ez6mz
    @Na-ez6mz 12 днів тому

    So even tho i have super long arms i can press 400 lbs in the bench

  • @JohnVieto
    @JohnVieto 21 день тому +11

    There are no elite lifters that are not on gear. Story over.

    • @mattvena226
      @mattvena226  21 день тому +32

      I’d call myself elite and never taken anything

    • @JohnVieto
      @JohnVieto 21 день тому +2

      @@mattvena226 LOL! Well you must be a genetic miracle then.

    • @hex6950
      @hex6950 21 день тому +1

      🤡

    • @barryallen767
      @barryallen767 21 день тому +13

      Jonnie Candito? Alan Thrall (elite lifter*) ? Panash?

    • @HerniatedDiscGuy
      @HerniatedDiscGuy 20 днів тому +7

      Ridiculous