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  • @backcountyrpilot
    @backcountyrpilot Рік тому +24

    My grandfather was killed when using 4 bumper jacks to lift a car while he replaced the exhaust system for $5.00 labor.
    Jacking a car is serious business.

    • @CSltz
      @CSltz 5 місяців тому

      I have had to use bumper jacks quite a few times. Even on the expressway very sketchy .

    • @scramblendan
      @scramblendan 20 днів тому

      Yes it is. I had a close call many years ago and it scared me quite a bit, way too close. I'm very sorry you lost your grandfather.

  • @kencorsell8087
    @kencorsell8087 2 роки тому +3

    I worked in many gas stations where jacking up a car onto floor jacks by hand was standard operating procedure, in one place we had 12 bays and only 2 floor lifts that were kept open for quick oil changes. The rest were all on floor jacks. Many of the older center post lifts don’t allow access to the central area under the car, which is where the mechanical parts of the car are located.

    • @iamasmurf1122
      @iamasmurf1122 2 роки тому

      What do you mean ? The only thing in the middle of a car is the exhaust system

    • @o.p.h.o.v.e.n
      @o.p.h.o.v.e.n Рік тому +2

      @@iamasmurf1122 Oh really? Where is a transmission usually, or a drive shaft?

  • @michaelbuenvenida8473
    @michaelbuenvenida8473 2 роки тому +6

    8:28 is so nice in my opinion lots of option on that i think you can even use it on the frame as well

  • @DaytonCarCare
    @DaytonCarCare 3 роки тому +26

    Cheap jack stands and jacks always worked for me. Have done plenty of engine and transmission swaps with them. Recently converted my 99 Audi A4 Quattro from an auto to manual transmission using jack stands.

    • @idontcareaboutyou7757
      @idontcareaboutyou7757 3 роки тому +11

      jack stands work well for me too, but i always add a security pile of rims under the frame bruh.

    • @ihopmta772
      @ihopmta772 3 роки тому

      Tryna drop the tranny on my E92 all I got are jack stands any suggestions?

    • @JuanPerez-bk9ue
      @JuanPerez-bk9ue 3 роки тому +1

      Also did a manual swap on my 2003 volvo with jackstands

    • @angbar9075
      @angbar9075 3 роки тому +11

      We were just sitting at the shop having lunch when the Jack stands just dropped the car they been there about a couple of days and they just fell for no reason luckily no one was under the car wtf don't just trust anything when it comes to your life use safety overkill!

    • @SzrotRider
      @SzrotRider 3 роки тому

      @@ihopmta772 yup, just do it.

  • @Vile-Flesh
    @Vile-Flesh 3 роки тому +43

    I miss the wooden ramps my father built. They were to stay in the garage when not in use but I had to put them outside for the house/garage to be worked on and never got to put them back in and they rotted away. Time flies when you become busy with life but I am still upset about not putting those nice ramps he built by hand and I'll never forgive myself.

    • @jbbolts
      @jbbolts 3 роки тому +3

      if or when you do you will ask yourself why you didnt do it sooner

    • @TigOlBitties0000
      @TigOlBitties0000 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah man, those are ridiculously easy to build. Stack wood. Use good screws. Done.

    • @cutactiontake9
      @cutactiontake9 2 роки тому +7

      forgive yourself its ok

    • @regthebackyardjackofalltrades
      @regthebackyardjackofalltrades 2 роки тому +1

      Do you have photos of his wooden ramp?

    • @6panel300
      @6panel300 Рік тому

      My dad made some the were great, you could parked a tank on them. The only problem was they weighed a ton.

  • @alfaman4113
    @alfaman4113 3 роки тому +12

    I would never rely on the strength of a bottle jack. I made 4 / 4x4 hardwood blocks. Each block had 8 blocks. Safe as hell

    • @professorg8383
      @professorg8383 3 роки тому +1

      The Pyramids were built using wood blocking. Still used today to lift massive machinery and move houses. Just takes time, but very safe if you know what you're doing!

    • @epmcdonald4562
      @epmcdonald4562 3 роки тому

      4:28 ? Wtf is that ? Take ramps off .. Put back on.. Dumb as hell

    • @sk4lman
      @sk4lman 6 місяців тому

      You should never trust any jack to hold a car. Seals can fail suddenly. Even slow leaks can lower the car on top of you, and you dont even notice until its too late.

  • @georgeszilva1223
    @georgeszilva1223 Рік тому +1

    Nice cake decorating!!!

  • @thomasburr9244
    @thomasburr9244 3 роки тому +3

    The one at the 2:23 Mark that is made out of wood if you use the right lumber and do this correctly this is actually a realistic affordable easy way to get your car lifted on your own property

  • @anthonynelson9136
    @anthonynelson9136 2 роки тому +2

    I buy and sell a lot of cars, so I bit the bullet and spent a grand on a used two poster for my backyard. With proper maintenance, it has lasted ten years so far.

  • @armandolopez9750
    @armandolopez9750 2 роки тому +1

    Felicidades.Ideas magníficas.muy útiles y económicas de hacer.Saludos desde México.

  • @russmt4181
    @russmt4181 Рік тому +2

    Take the ones at 8:30 put a small ramp on each one to drive up onto with a small airbag in each, hook a common air line to each and lift whole car at the same time by opening a valve.

  • @AUDIO2AUTO
    @AUDIO2AUTO 3 роки тому +20

    6:20 The type of ingenuity that makes sense. Got in position in 5 secs and not many parts to build.

  • @alparker8661
    @alparker8661 Рік тому

    Loved the pit in the first sequence. Old school

  • @neatt3815
    @neatt3815 2 роки тому +1

    I like the one at 8:55. Can you buy something like these premade?

  • @davecozzi9721
    @davecozzi9721 Рік тому +2

    Always have 2 things holding the car up. A couple of old rims, a couple more jack stands, some tire cribs under the frame, whatever will stop a car from crushing you. If one thing fails, it is better to crap your pants from being scared than from being crushed.

  • @M-oneeleven-M111
    @M-oneeleven-M111 3 роки тому +24

    Soooo many ways to die🤣 I admire ingenuity and creativity, and yes some products you can buy are also sketchy. But I would rather trust my life to tried and tested products just personal opinion 😉

    • @idontcareaboutyou7757
      @idontcareaboutyou7757 3 роки тому

      facts

    • @ernie548
      @ernie548 3 роки тому

      Fact

    • @AMXG29
      @AMXG29 3 роки тому

      how do you think it got to that point

    • @anonymous4507
      @anonymous4507 3 роки тому

      How do you think these products came to be? It was a person with an idea. They made it, they tried it, and tested it over, and over. You have to know how to weld descent and know a little about metal but it's not hard to learn these things.

    • @M-oneeleven-M111
      @M-oneeleven-M111 3 роки тому +1

      @@anonymous4507 there's a lot more to it than just being able to weld what about known tensile strengths of hardware? Stress testing the metal being used knowing your welds have penetrated sufficiently? As I said I admire the ingenuity not once have a do e any of these creations down, some are very clever. But when your holding a car up you need to 100% know that it's either going to hold up or not tip over. And yes there's many off the shelf products that are not up to the job they're intended for.

  • @yurbeeinwatched
    @yurbeeinwatched 3 роки тому +17

    Next up. Best homemade tombstones.

  • @anackonnagrp7284
    @anackonnagrp7284 3 роки тому +5

    The second one looked like some kind of a magic trick.

  • @pughconsulting
    @pughconsulting 3 роки тому +5

    I built wood ramps with 2x12s. The only ramps I trust my life with. I'm sure they could hold up a house. Otherwise, it's jack stands with locking pins.

    • @dnegel9546
      @dnegel9546 3 роки тому +6

      I use ramps, + stands + wheels + jack(x2) + bricks. Lol..
      My backups have backups.. I figured if all of them fail.. then it was my time to go.

    • @cobre7717
      @cobre7717 3 роки тому +2

      @@dnegel9546 it would take more time to put in take out all that crap than a simple oil change. Lol

    • @professorg8383
      @professorg8383 3 роки тому

      @@cobre7717 The oil change is just an excuse to do all the other stuff. The fun and ingenuity come with getting ready to do that simple task!

  • @thai.tv.you.
    @thai.tv.you. 3 роки тому +1

    Yes! I like this video.

  • @realhoffman_3263
    @realhoffman_3263 3 роки тому +1

    Some crazy ass hillbilly builds

  • @Ракета-п8ъ
    @Ракета-п8ъ 3 роки тому

    Здравствуйте я 1000 -ый подписчик!

  • @요범사훈
    @요범사훈 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for your video

  • @Ракета-п8ъ
    @Ракета-п8ъ 3 роки тому +2

    Спасибо за видео! Подметил для себя интересные решения.

  • @Simon-bu4kc
    @Simon-bu4kc 8 місяців тому

    2:22 damn that's the coolest and most ridiculous feat of DIY I've seen for car stuff so far xD and did we really just put 20 percent of this entire videos time up for basic metal grate ramps (3:20)?

  • @craigmcfarland1940
    @craigmcfarland1940 3 роки тому

    This guy is a genius

  • @Thr33.Sid3z
    @Thr33.Sid3z 4 роки тому +18

    There's a few good ideas here, but the most important thing that everyone forgot was a way to remove the wheels. You have to lift by the frame and not the wheels.

    • @hooperwille
      @hooperwille 4 роки тому +4

      I think the idea with these are to work under the car. Sometimes you need to lift by the wheels only because frame is so rusted it can't even hold jack stands.

    • @lelanthran
      @lelanthran 4 роки тому +2

      That's only if you want to remove the wheels. Changing ATF, oil, coolant parts etc all require the car to be level while you are working under it, and none require the wheels to be removed

    • @XX-xv6xe
      @XX-xv6xe 3 роки тому +1

      wrong. there are no good ideas here.

    • @cobre7717
      @cobre7717 3 роки тому

      @@XX-xv6xe good ideas if you want to file a life insurance claim for your spouse

    • @cobre7717
      @cobre7717 3 роки тому +4

      @@XX-xv6xe backwoods engineering with 2 tons of iron on a frame made with a $100 fluxcore welder spitting out bubble gum beads.

  • @RoyNation
    @RoyNation 2 роки тому +1

    Where to get the four stands at 08:27 of this video.

  • @GeneMcCormick
    @GeneMcCormick Рік тому

    Love the music the best part of this video...who are they?

  • @blizteredthumbs7911
    @blizteredthumbs7911 2 роки тому

    6:43 this one! 👌

  • @deirdre108
    @deirdre108 Рік тому +2

    I made drive up ramps using wood blocking front and rear wheels. Having the wheels sitting on solid wood stacks (no daylight between the layers) is about the safest you can be.

  • @tomf4547
    @tomf4547 Рік тому +1

    Just scrapped my steel ramps. They just skate along the drive when I try driving up em.

    • @tano1747
      @tano1747 Місяць тому +1

      I added expanded mesh to mine, and extended the mesh another 15cm along the level ground at the top of the ramp. The tyre can't push the ramp if it is already on the mesh that is part of the ramp. No more trouble with the ramp sliding

    • @tano1747
      @tano1747 Місяць тому

      Tip of the ramp not top. Ie the mesh runs along the ground at the start of the incline

  • @juanvelasquez9114
    @juanvelasquez9114 3 роки тому +1

    the 8:10 looks really interesting!!

  • @santiagoelias6172
    @santiagoelias6172 3 роки тому +5

    All these require for vehicle to move under its own power...the teeter needs a cable pulley system...floor jack and jack stands take up less room..would be a great addition to a shop with extra room..

  • @HanifEFIMechanical
    @HanifEFIMechanical 3 роки тому

    Good work

  • @nw8000
    @nw8000 Рік тому

    Where do I buy the things at @8:30

  • @markstrickland8736
    @markstrickland8736 Рік тому

    Here, hold my beer. Hey ya'll, watch this.

  • @lethallugi
    @lethallugi Рік тому

    does anyone know what those things are called under the tire at 8:43

  • @timothytucker76
    @timothytucker76 3 роки тому +2

    I'm considering looking how to build the first hydraulic lift. Very cool idea

    • @curtisclick9559
      @curtisclick9559 3 роки тому +2

      Just buy one. They're $120.

    • @dnegel9546
      @dnegel9546 3 роки тому +4

      Don't build one.. that thing is literally a death waiting to happen.
      Just buy one.

    • @timothytucker76
      @timothytucker76 3 роки тому

      I can't find a name of the lift that has the ability to lift like the first Homemade project is.

    • @dnegel9546
      @dnegel9546 3 роки тому +2

      @@timothytucker76 but why do you even need to lift a car that way?
      What is wrong with a standard jack?

    • @cobre7717
      @cobre7717 3 роки тому +1

      @@dnegel9546 because when you live in the rustbelt. The salt destroy your unibody to the point where you need a 4 foot piece of cedar plank to ever so gingerly lift your decrepit shitbox up in the air

  • @Itr-tv7kt
    @Itr-tv7kt 3 роки тому +2

    8:35 this one should have a ramp like this one 4:14

  • @cometcal2
    @cometcal2 Місяць тому

    Many people assume lifting up a car and having it rest on four jack stands is ok - me included - until I looked at Project Farm's jack stand video
    ua-cam.com/video/hXzusz_eUy8/v-deo.html
    1. In reality, four adjustable jack stands are not holding up the whole car. Just the teeth of the jack. The teeth are the weak point.
    2. When the " thousands pound" car is suspended in the air on four jack stands, lateral force can make the jack stands tip easily. I like this option at 8:28

  • @ditherdather
    @ditherdather 3 роки тому +3

    I'm sure they cut the video on the second jack contraption before we all watched that car fall into the hole on it's side. That looked crazy to me. No way I'd put anything of value up on that lift.

  • @boarderm5896
    @boarderm5896 3 роки тому +12

    That first jack, hell no.

    • @lastmanstanding2622
      @lastmanstanding2622 3 роки тому +1

      Just slap some paint on it and it will restore your confidence!

  • @md65000
    @md65000 3 роки тому +5

    - 8:31 is the only one that looks even remotely safe. I wouldn't get anywhere near any of the others.

    • @idontcareaboutyou7757
      @idontcareaboutyou7757 3 роки тому

      i wouldn't go under that as well, under nothing non professionally tested with proper machinery and certified except maybe a concrete ramp

  • @achristian7015
    @achristian7015 2 роки тому +1

    0:23 I think your left rear tire needs some air.

  • @thom9040
    @thom9040 2 роки тому

    Every time I see a home built car lift, I am soo happy that I invested in a Challenger CL9.

    • @jimmyamatthews5792
      @jimmyamatthews5792 2 роки тому

      The atrocious welding on some of these so call car lifts are death traps, some good ideas, but scary, they're dealing with a lot of dead weight and not enough safety.

  • @ejrocket9260
    @ejrocket9260 9 місяців тому +1

    Some pretty crzy ideas. Wouldn't catch me using any of them.

  • @IIIITommyIIII
    @IIIITommyIIII 3 роки тому

    👍👍👍👍 Top!!! 👍👍👍👍

  • @ubaidillahasadtsani4381
    @ubaidillahasadtsani4381 Рік тому

    8:30
    7:40 favourit

  • @johnh2937
    @johnh2937 3 роки тому

    Minute 6:15 ! Worth the time.

  • @lynskyrd
    @lynskyrd Рік тому

    those 'SeeSaw' lifts.... jeez. Then again, I removed a transmission out of a 76 Ford GranTorino... on cinderblocks, the car was 2 feet off the ground-- I was young, I wouldn't even think of doing that now. Somehow I lived to post this comment.

  • @feryigourto8202
    @feryigourto8202 Рік тому

    06:00 is a boldtrick !

  • @GERntleMAN
    @GERntleMAN 3 роки тому +7

    9:30 is what I need- Anyone an idea where I can find it?

    • @PontiacsGarage
      @PontiacsGarage 3 роки тому

      I need a set of 4 too. These are bad ass.

    • @jonasberg7201
      @jonasberg7201 3 роки тому +1

      Two different products, but similar, $$ or $$$.
      www.etamfg.com/shop.html?store-page=Rennstand-Each-p252276669
      www.forgednfast.com/myliftstands-review/

  • @alexqwerty597
    @alexqwerty597 Рік тому +1

    problem! to repair, you need to remove the wheels usually

  • @siriosstar4789
    @siriosstar4789 2 роки тому

    The only one i would consider getting under a car would be at the 7:40 mark

  • @driftless1870
    @driftless1870 Рік тому +1

    Most of these look like I had welded them together. If I want to be crushed to death I’ll just buy a round of drinks for the next Krispy Creme Girls Night Out.

  • @briankleinschmidt3664
    @briankleinschmidt3664 Рік тому

    When I saw the thumbnail and read the caption, I thought, "Get my Z. down off that contraption!"

  • @__Michal
    @__Michal 3 роки тому

    the one @ 9min is the best idea

    • @professorg8383
      @professorg8383 3 роки тому

      Solidly built, but I'd like to see the locking pins go all the way through the posts. Doesn't appear to do that.

  • @keytothegate68
    @keytothegate68 Рік тому

    Guys please don't do any of this. Be safe above all. As a teenager I had a close call doing this. Learned my lesson. Be safe. Be smart. There will be another day.

  • @alejandrotrueba778
    @alejandrotrueba778 3 роки тому

    6:43 Quién logró esto, es un buenazo. Felicidades.

  • @PIAZI123
    @PIAZI123 4 роки тому +9

    Jack, hoist ok . Best goes on when not running .

  • @HafeezKhan-qi7jj
    @HafeezKhan-qi7jj 3 роки тому

    nice

  • @marvstrickler9573
    @marvstrickler9573 3 роки тому

    One should put the jack under the vehicle for best results!

  • @recentlychanged
    @recentlychanged 3 роки тому +2

    I don't think I'd chance getting under the one made out of upside-down roof trusses.

    • @d.w.w.sweetz3008
      @d.w.w.sweetz3008 2 роки тому +1

      That's the safest one in the whole lot. Place 4 steel point jack stands at the frame and this is by far the best, cheapest and safest way to lift ur car. The downfall is storage.

    • @russmt4181
      @russmt4181 Рік тому

      I liked that one, make it out of angle iron, would be great.

  • @StrongFreeLovin
    @StrongFreeLovin 9 місяців тому

    And how do you even change anything without pulling out the wheels

  • @Christopher-mi6qe
    @Christopher-mi6qe 3 роки тому +1

    The trusses at 3:00 are an especially bad idea.

    • @cobre7717
      @cobre7717 3 роки тому

      Ummm. Kaaaay most of them "designs" are bad ideas

  • @stanknowlton7043
    @stanknowlton7043 Рік тому

    Beats the 45 gallon drum.

  • @keneofugotti4957
    @keneofugotti4957 3 роки тому +1

    9:00 mark OK... Rest crazy...

  • @PeterL-r6w
    @PeterL-r6w 3 місяці тому

    Am I the only person to use my left foot on the brake (Automatics).. Hold the throttle steady and control the movement with the brake... It's a learned skill........ but that's the problem... I guess next useless electronic addition will be a "creep mode"..

  • @buildingconsultants1854
    @buildingconsultants1854 Рік тому

    WOOD is even crazier than concrete blocks

    • @johnlever6696
      @johnlever6696 Рік тому +1

      Wood is very strong and reliable. I drive a 74000kg mobile crane and we use wood under the out riggers all the time to bring down ground bearing pressures.

  • @jbbolts
    @jbbolts 3 роки тому

    10:30 anyone know what country this is? never heard of a vw canyon?

    • @Jirinhavlas1
      @Jirinhavlas1 3 роки тому

      It is just VW amarok, but canyon is only name of comfort eqipment

  • @juliocesarfernandesteixeir3040
    @juliocesarfernandesteixeir3040 2 роки тому

    🇧🇷🏆🇧🇷👋🏻👋🏻

  • @TheRickyice1
    @TheRickyice1 4 роки тому +2

    That trailer kinda good idea .... But you rely on balance.

  • @skizilla
    @skizilla 3 роки тому +7

    "Thats gonna be a no from be dawg"

  • @angrygnome4779
    @angrygnome4779 3 роки тому

    Just as easy to jack up one end and put jack stands under then do the other end. Same clearance.

  • @TriPham-xd9wk
    @TriPham-xd9wk 3 роки тому

    If we used four of those under the car body above frame then connect to half air half hydraulic reservoirs then run onwheel hydraulic motor then the car drive forever or generate electricity too

  • @roky2467
    @roky2467 3 роки тому +1

    6:17 dead suspension

  • @genogeno6643
    @genogeno6643 3 роки тому

    10:45 It looks like a black Labrador Retriever driving

  • @gplusgplus2286
    @gplusgplus2286 3 роки тому +6

    10 people died in the making of this video.

  • @kingtut5923
    @kingtut5923 3 роки тому +13

    the music has to go

  • @abc123732
    @abc123732 3 роки тому +9

    State of the welding on that first one, no fkin chance

    • @SuperMatiz
      @SuperMatiz 3 роки тому +4

      Theres a Lada 110 in the background, that explains everything.

    • @cobre7717
      @cobre7717 3 роки тому +4

      Those welds are 60% perfect
      It will hold 💎✋

  • @wolfman7393
    @wolfman7393 2 роки тому

    I want to lift my car to the moon!

  • @wilsonfuentes7011
    @wilsonfuentes7011 3 роки тому

    All the systems that works elevating from the wheels don't work to make a job, because today's car with front transmission is necessary to remove the wheel for do the job. a second sistem for elevate is necesary.

  • @mycowboyways915
    @mycowboyways915 3 роки тому +1

    Ever hear of jack stands.

  • @RedPillLife1966
    @RedPillLife1966 4 місяці тому +1

    1,000,000 ways to die. Choose one.

  • @ResidentOf
    @ResidentOf 4 місяці тому

    Я бы не полез под автомобиль, надо дополнительно страховать, ставить кирпичи или еще что-то

  • @mirrootka606
    @mirrootka606 3 роки тому

    Homemade car lift jacks. - Do not try it at home ! U can try it but don`t touch ;)

  • @yolofullsend
    @yolofullsend 5 років тому +11

    Some of these were dodgy

  • @mitsuturbo
    @mitsuturbo 2 роки тому +1

    8:30 I need this.

  • @daytonadave59
    @daytonadave59 Рік тому

    AKA: The Best Of The Widowmakers

  • @billpeck9836
    @billpeck9836 3 роки тому +4

    some of the welds on these are sketchier than a harbor fright jackstand

    • @cobre7717
      @cobre7717 3 роки тому

      The welds on the jack stand were fine. It was the cast iron that would like to snap. I think it was breaking when people were slaming their car down too fast.

  • @kevinmullins4919
    @kevinmullins4919 2 роки тому

    Finely at 8:30 min. in someone uses a floor jack!!!

  • @Teeveepicksures
    @Teeveepicksures 5 місяців тому

    jackstands for safety and a tire for insurance

  • @canadianmohawk
    @canadianmohawk 3 роки тому

    Second Guy Already has a pit. Dig it Deeper

  • @camptoursandthat4439
    @camptoursandthat4439 3 роки тому +3

    Very dangerous occupation unless a fully quilified steel structural engineer.

  • @RobbiRocks
    @RobbiRocks Рік тому

    Such great ideas, But pleeeeaase get rid of the back ground music

  • @panchovillasmith8218
    @panchovillasmith8218 3 роки тому

    Those jacks at 8min 45 seconds look commercial but can't seem to find the name does anyone have the name for them or are they a DIY deathtrap

    • @jasonyu1162
      @jasonyu1162 3 роки тому +1

      You can use old rims.

    • @cobre7717
      @cobre7717 3 роки тому

      @@jasonyu1162 how do you slide a floor jack into old rims?

    • @jasonyu1162
      @jasonyu1162 3 роки тому

      @@cobre7717 u jack up the car, place the rims under the wheel.

    • @cobre7717
      @cobre7717 3 роки тому

      @@jasonyu1162 yeah thats not the same thing.

    • @jasonyu1162
      @jasonyu1162 3 роки тому

      @@cobre7717 Didn't he jack up the car and place the red cube under the wheels at 8min 45 in the video?

  • @isrealperez9069
    @isrealperez9069 3 роки тому

    I didn't understand why don't they just make it work on jacking points instead on the wheels only

  • @TrombaSolo
    @TrombaSolo Рік тому

    I would not get under ANY of these vehicles unless I had at least TWO jack stands underneath. Garage For Dummies.

  • @justincollins8537
    @justincollins8537 3 роки тому

    At about 10 minutes yet more uses for old palates

    • @wendys390
      @wendys390 Рік тому +1

      Spelling Doctor at your service…! You want to say “pallets,” as the other “palate” is the roof of your mouth, which is pretty funny to think of reusing old ones LOL
      Nowadays they misspell “to,” so you’re a cut above most people :). Peace