Another tip: only use Top Tier fuel (google for full list of stations, but the ones in my area are Shell, Costco, Marathon, Valero, Chevron and Sunoco). Note that BP is no longer on the list. Toyota (and others) recommend. The detergent additives in Top Tier fuels help keep fuel systems clean and it’s legit.
Greetings from New Jersey! New subscriber here and I'm really enjoying your down to earth approach. I have a stock 2016 SR5 4WD with 130k miles and have routinely gotten 19+ MPG (70/30 Highway/City) since new. I have gotten as much as 23 MPG on moderately loaded 350 mile highway trips. I add Techron every 6 months. I'll be cleaning the throttle body and MAF sensor at my next oil change and will do the idle reset routine at that time. I'm 68 years old and I can honestly say this vehicle is THE BEST I've ever owned! I LOVE MY 4RUNNER! Thanks for your awesome channel!
Thank you so much for your kind words! Those are some truly impressive numbers, thank you for sharing and for the support!! 🙏🏻 I honestly Agree with you, I’ve owned a lot of cars, nothing beats this one. 👍🏻
2018 SR5 Premium here. I can get over 22MPG on the highway consistently with light truck tires. Agree that tire pressure makes a difference (38PSI cold for me) but speed also makes a HUGE difference. I stay around 60-65MPH and find that going to 75MPH+ can drop me well under 20MPG. These 4runners are basically boxes on wheels so they're not great aerodynamically. Aerodynamic drag increases exponentially with speed so you need to find *your* balance to get there fast vs getting better fuel efficiency. When I'm in a hurry, I drive 75-80MPH and get around 18-19MPG. All conditions are lightly loaded with one passenger and two suitcases.
I know you just confirmed something I’ve been very suspicious of… anything over that 65mph mark will kill the MPG. Smooth transitions are critical. It does bring me comfort to know that 22MPG us actually possible. Best consistency I’ve ever reached was 20.5MPG for about 2 months, I was costing downhill also 🤷🏼♂️. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experience, I appreciate that!
I have a 2008 FJ and during the warm months in Ohio I get almost 23 1/2 mpg. I drive mostly highway, cruise between 60-65 and enjoy my ride with the windows down. I stay to the right and people watch the speedy drivers as they fly by and I build up a train of cars as I near an exit, lol!! Mines rwd which also probably helps with mpg.
I commute between Reno and Salt Lake City half a dozen times a year in my 2021 4R. Speed limit 80mph for a good half or more of that distance, about 250 miles. I try to drive 70-75mph to improve mileage, but on strong windy days, which are not infrequent, I’ve seen my mileage drop to as low as 13mph. Extremely distressing when cost of gas is so high.
On my wife's 2019 Limited AWD I changed out the 20" factory wheels and tires to 17" TRD wheels and BFGoodrich's Advantage T/A Sport LT tires - much more of a highway tire. The Limited's 20" wheels and tires weighted in at 76lbs. The 17" TRD wheels and tires weight 61lbs. I dropped 15lbs at each corner plus changed the dynamics of the rotational mass by moving more mass towards the center of the wheel. I have always noticed my Limited to be more sluggish and brake a bit slower then my TRD ORP - the parasitic drag of the AWD system and those 20" heavy wheels. My TRD ORP is still a bit more responsive but drivability of the Limited is much better now. As an additional benefit I picked-up on average 1.5 to 2 MPG better on the Limited. On the highway at 65 to 70 MPH the Limited averages ~21.5MPG where before I was at ~19.5MPG.
Isn’t that crazy how one small modification (Well not that small) Can change that much your fuel economy. I’ll take 2 MPG any day. Thank you for sharing Sir, super useful info. 👍🏻👏🏻
That’s nice. Here in St. Louis, we have the same kind of folks. It’s usually helpful to leave your doors unlocked. These guys are so nice to help you lose unneeded weight that they will break your windows. I mean, where else can you get that kind of customer service now a days?
I just accelerate slowly and maintain the ECO light (which I didn’t know was annoying to a lot of owners 😂) as I accelerate. When driving on the highway, I’ll let off the gas a little on uphill sections and let it coast downhill. With no wind or tailwind, I can get up to 23 mpg. With a head wind that number drops back down to 18 or 19 mpg; still better than 15 with rough driving in the wind.
I also clean the MAF sensor every oil change. Maybe overkill? But easy to do and takes literally a few minutes. Now going to add throttle body cleaning to next round of maintenance. 👍🏻
I actually do the MAF cleaning at about every 20k, will add/show that on my Tune-up video😉 I’m glad you’re doing the Throttle body cleaning 👏🏻 Thank you for watching!
Have done the throttle body on both the 4runner and GX470. Baseline your idle # with something like a BlueDriver Pro OBD2 reader. Make the changes and see what happens. Last year on an 1800mi round trip with a loaded basket on the back of the 4Runner, 2 ppl and a 80lb dog, @36psi, we averaged 18mpg. Doing same trip this year and will see how these changes impact MPG. Tip on the throttle body butterfly, be GENTLE when you move it to clean the inside and edges. You can break the motor on it. You can also just remove the 4 bolts and it pops off easily to do both sides. The computer will reset itself, no need to do the battery. Just take it for a drive for 10-15 min and it'll figure it out.
My wife has a stock 2019 XP Edition 4Runner with 12,000+ miles on it. I have a 2003 Z71 Tahoe with 320,000+ miles on it with a leveling kit that is setup to duplicate the "OEM rake", 285/75r16 Cooper S/T Maxx tires on Cragar 16x8, 5" BS Soft 8 steel rims. The only modifications my truck has is an AIRRAID full-flow throttle body intake tube, an AEM dry air filter (after noticing oil residue buildup on my previous Durango in the mass air sensor and the throttle body, I stopped using the K&N oil filters), a set of Gibson headers, new down pipes due to the old ones having the catalytic bricks break apart and sounded like rocks rattling around and a Cherrybomb Vortex 3"in/3"out muffler. So I have decent intake and exhaust. I do also have a Curt extended cargo rack on top with a 32" curved light bar facing to the rear for trailer operations and backing down my 80' "driveway". Oh yeah, one final thing, I have a military HMMWV rear bumper WITH a HMMWV tire carrier. The reason I mention all of these it that my 19 year old Tahoe gets similar gas mileage to her 3 year old 4Runner, about 14mpg in town on short runs that involve some stop and go with traffic lights and just nudging 16.5mpg at highway speeds 65mph max to her 17mpg. Her 4Runner is a slick roof, no cross rails even on the "roof rack". She still gets it serviced at the Yoyo dealership, so I am hesitant to do any of the mods mentioned in the comments right now. Her warranty should be coming up real soon so maybe with a bit of slight of hand I can start switching some things out to improve her fuel mileage. We are both in our senior years and yet have different mindsets on vehicle prep.
I've got a 2017 4Runner TRD. On the highway I get 19.7mpg without any mods. The intake cleaning they do at the dealership makes a sizable difference in mine. It goes down to 17.5mpg when dirty and then back to 19.7mpg clean. 2.2mpg doesn’t seem like much until you look at it as a percentage. It's about 14% better once it’s clean. Gas around here right now is $3.29 per gal for regular. So a savings of just 14% adds up quickly at the pump
That fuel treatment (which is basically Techron) is the same thing Chevron put into their premium 93 octane at the pump. A clean air filter and fuel injectors are a must for MPG.
2020 offroad premium, bought new. Stock, I'd routinely see over 20mpg. Best was a little over 23 while drafting traffic at 70-75. EPA estimations are quite low imo. Currently I'm running a stage 3 ironman 4x4 foam cell pro suspension system, 3.5" in front, 2.5" lift in rear on 33" wildpeaks. Ditch lights can't help the wind resistance either... I now average about 17mpg. On 55mph back roads and during faster highway drafting, I'll occasionally flash into the low-mid 19s. Never touched the throttle body but I'll probably give it a try as I'm at about 37k miles. K&N filter did improve mileage ever so slightly as well. I'd say after the lift and tires, I'm closer to the stock EPA estimations. If a stock 5th gen isn't getting 20+ on the highway, it's either a right foot problem, weight, or a nasty air filter/TB. Just my .02
Your probably right on that last statement, I do agree. I’m a bit heavy footed at times, which translates on my current 19.4mpg average. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts. Thank you!!
I like that the 4Runner uses regular gas. One of the reasons I bought my 2008 Mazda 3 GT was that it runs on regular gas. That has saved me a lot of money over the last 15 years. My financial situation has changed so I don't mind if the 4Runner runs better on mid grade. I'm just trying to get all the info I can. What grade of gas do you use in your 4Runner?
Great tips with the throttle body cleaning and idle reset. I'm going to have to give that a shot, I'm about to hit 140k and I don't know if that's ever been done. As it is, I consistently get 20.0 - 20.5 with mine during my daily commute, and on road trips I can get about 22.5. before I added steel skids, rock sliders, and all terrain tires, I could get 22 pretty easily, and I once got 24.5 on a 400 mi road trip. That's hand calculated, not going by the vehicles readout. I find the biggest thing with these is driving with a light foot, and keeping it under 70 mph.
Those are impressive numbers. I wish, my foot needs to go on a diet or attitude adjustment or both 🤣. I do agree with your last statement 💯 Thank you for sharing.
Just followed the tips here on my new-to-me 2016 Trail Premium and it instantly went from showing 380 cruising distance to 425 miles… will be interesting to see how this bears out! Reading through the comments for other tips too 🤓
Another trick (for those who live in hilly regions) is to give it gas when going downhill and let off the gas when going uphill. It sounds counterintuitive because you'd think you want to coast going downhill. But actually, if you accelerate on the downhill sections, you're gaining momentum with the help of gravity and thus using less gas overall. By slowing down on the uphill, you're not wasting gas by fighting gravity. I get great mpg this way.
You should never accelerate past your vehicles best drag coefficient even if going down hill. You're wasting fuel. If you have a display that tells you your current mpg you can find your vehicles speed sweet spot. Stick to that no matter what. If your vehicle passes that sweet spot on gravity alone that's great.
Yeah but you're also WASTING gas by giving it more throttle downhill and missing out on momentum when going up hill by not giving it more throttle thus making you use up more gas. I feel like this is a type of thing that actually needs to be measured by a computer somehow to verify which method is correct.
I live in a hill city and insanely steep mountains all around. Always accelerate hard uphill, downshift into 4th. First, slow accelerations unlocks the torque converter and spikes transmission temps from 180F up to 250F in under a minute or two..... Unless you like exchanging 14 quarts of tranny fluid every year, keep the TC locked up!!!!! Second, when you accelerate HARD and build momentum before the hill gets too steep, the momentum launches the truck up the entire hill with relatively minimal MPG consumption (even at high RPM's) when compared to slow acceleration. Sometimes you need to get the truck up to 80-100mph with the hills we have here for this to work properly. Sometimes the steep grade is so long (15-20 mins) that slow acceleration will cause your transmission temp to go to 300F'ish and cause the trans light to go on. You have to really down shift into 1 or 2 gear and floor it. The high RPM's circulate the transmission fluid and help cool it. Also, don't bother hookinh up a trans cooler through your radiator. Bypass the radiator and install a thermal bypass. Transmission will reach operating temps quicker and cool faster! Always stay around 160-180F.
This might sound like overkill but I run Techron and clean the throttle body with each oil change (5,000 miles or six months whichever come first using Mobil 1). I also run a quality paper air filter and change it at least once per year depending on if I have been on a dusty trail and then of course more frequently. I also check, clean and lube my throttle linkage and grease the drive shaft. Results? NO PROBLEMS! Vehicle has over 120,000 miles.
I have a '17 5th Gen TRD ORP and have managed over 20 mpg (as high as 24.81 mpg an a 150 mile stretch) on the highway (NOT Interstate) on a vacation trip by doing the following: Use street tires (Not AT/MT) Bridgestone Dueler HT OE tires, keep the pressures at 35 psi, carry only 2 passengers and their vacation stuff for a week (say 150 lbs) and travel on nice weather, almost wind less, and at speeds "averaging" 45 MPH (2 lane state highways makes this reasonable). Car was broken in at around 8,000 miles and in exceptional condition. Front/Rear diff and TC fluids changed at 5,000 miles to synthetic, I always use premium not for the octane but the better detergents. BTW, I get 17.5 mpg in the city averaging 25 mph. I think the average on the Interstate would drop to 19~20 mpg average if I drove 75 mph steady.
Everything you mentioned is spot on, but what works for is changing my driving habits, and not being too harsh on the gas, that got me around 23mpg on highways,
Actually being harsher on the gas to maintain inertia makes for much better MPG's, and certainly keeps the transmission temps from spiking. If you are "easy" on the gas going up mountains and the transfer case unlocks, your transmission temp can go from 180F to 250F in just 1 minute lol. And you use up more fuel overall, compared to harsh acceleration at the right time, paired with gearing down, that locks the torque converter (no power loss, no heat build up)
Increasing the tire pressure is probably what makes the most difference on your list. When I was younger I filled my Jetta's tires to the psi listed on the side walls. Instead of 32, I think I inflated them to 45 for a cross-country road trip and got AMAZING gas mileage. But! I ruined my tires because they were concave with the excessive pressure and wore down the middle of the treads... down to the steel radials. Ugh. Live and learn. Go off the tire pressures listed on your door jam label.
I have a 2007 4runner 2wd 133k miles and i get 23-25mpg on highway. 1. Tires- get narrower and smaller tires, like 245 75r17, 265 65r17, 245, 70r17. And get higway rolling resistance tires like michelin ms2, goodyear assurance , cooper ht3 2. Slow down, dont floor it , dont pass a lot. 3. Roof rack can cause air resistant 4. Get a bumper bra or rock chip clear silicone film, and ceramic coat make it cut through air better. 5. Good shocks, control arms, cv axles, wheel bearings maintenance, swat bar so car does have body roll 6. Good fuel pump , spark plugs, air filter, if are tired n old worse mpg. 7. External body add ons , lift kits are not neeed if is a driver car not off roading.
I did a little trip a few weeks ago on my 5th gen 4runner SR5 4WD, I managed to hit 21 mgp, I just did a mayor tune up, mobile1 oil 0-20, transfer case fluid (Redline MT-LV) all differentials fluid replaced(Valvoline 75W-90), K&N air intake, all tires pressure were at 35 psi. I had horrible gas mileage before doing all this. I will be doing transmission service soon.
Everything you mentioned makes sense and does help. I've changed out the spark coils to the RIPP variant and am keeping notes to see if there is a difference in MPG. I also installed new NGK Laser Iridium plugs at the same time. One thing I've noticed is after installing the Sprint Booster (V3) I don't need to hit the pedal hard to get any meaningful response and mileage did go up slightly by around .3 MPG. I found that the Sprint Booster is much better than the Pedal Commander, which I found to be a joke compared to the SB. Yes, I bought the PC first and realized the error of my ways. Someone else mentioned speed. Yes, keeping these 4-wheel blocks below 65 mph or so does make a big difference. One thing that was mentioned - wheels and tires. I have a 2016 TRD Pro. I was thinking of "going larger" but then I looked at the increase in weight and rotational mass. Not worth it, especially when I have to deal with those times when we get snow. Wider tires in snow does result in less traction. It's a proven fact that black wheels get better mileage than gold ones. :) We live in the mountains at around 5,600' and I've found 91 Octane does help in terms of mileage. It does cost more per gallon, but the better mileage does offset that cost, but not by much, but still worth it. Thanks for taking the time.
Why do wider tires in snow result in less traction? I've experienced a bit different outcomes with wider tires with extreme snow tread on them, giving me better snow traction. Maybe I'm just imagining things.
I'm six days into ownership of a 2024 4Runner SR5 Premium, and so far city driving (30-40mph) I'm finding that if I don't gun the rig off the line, keep it at 40 or less while city driving, I can consistently get 19-20mpg. Haven't gone out on the highways yet.
15.9 for me, magnaflow, s&b intake, n&b Baja rack, poor man’s brush guard, 1.25 wheel spacers, good year duratrac, and all my camping/survival gear, 8 gallons of water, molle panels with tools etc…
On your gas door there are 2 metal pieces sticking out. Kinda round looking. Put the threaded part of your gas cap there rather than letting it hit the paint on the fender
My mom was purchased a 2022 4 Runner trd pro she was complaining about the mpg. So I modified her engine, she now get 20 city and 25 highway at 70 mph. So it’s possible.
A little background of what I do helps, I am a auto engineer were i design and help manufacturers by testing parts for the cars. Some of these parts are called OEM (original equipment manufacture) and AMP (After Market Products). Most auto car markers put basic parts in a car because it saves money and meets the specifications. I don’t want to get into the details of this. Typical all cars can improve their performance and fuel efficiency by 3- 5 mpg. 1. Change the stock Air Filter to a K&N filter. You don’t need the cold air intake just the filter it self. But the cold air intake does improve air quality by 3% more. 2. Rolling Resistance, meaning inflate your tire to 40 psi but make sure your tires max are 5 psi lower than the max pressure. The trade off is your car performance and grip will be less. But if you drive safely you should be fine. 3. Change stock spark plugs to performance parts or iridium. 4. Change the stock exhaust to performance exhaust, I installed a dual exhaust and the output is easily noticeable. 5. Driving habits easy on the gas petal in the city. Use the idle stop if your stuck in traffic for longer than 30sec. That’s only if your car has the system installed. 6. Cruise system works great on flat land, but not so great on hills. It’s best, to control with your foot going over hills. You want to keep your rpm below 2,000 if possible. 7. Install an Oil catch can, this engine is a GDI and this will prevent carbon build up. 8. Change to full synthetic oil, because it will last longer and protect your engine while improving performance. 9. Don’t by gas from the cheap from gas stations. You want to use Top Tier Fuel, examples Shell, Exxon, Costco, and etc. 10. Aerodynamic. Having a roof rack and extra weight make the car slower and inefficient. Only use what you need. Hope this help, even doing a few of these modifications will help your suv performance. 11. There is a carbon filter in your air box for almost all Toyota but that is to ensure all cars meet the emission test for different states. If you remove it there is a 5% increase in efficiency. Hope this helps y’all out there.
@@09FoxRider Thanks for your great response to this really helpful video. I’m curious if you (or anyone else) has an opinion about upgrading(?) the original exhaust on a SR5 4R to the TRD Pro exhaust. I am going to try the K&N and figure a slightly more open exhaust should complement the improved air intake. Thanks!
My 4Runner SR5 Premium 2021 and my previous auto; A 2011 Honda Pilot: I keep it steady on the hwy at 70mph, I do not break every 5 seconds, no need to have a concrete foot unless I need to pass drivers slower than me. I don't put the AC at full blast and I avoid excessive hard acceleration. Usually at the end of my trip from SF to LA I average about 21-22 mpg. throw in some street driving and I'm looking at 20mpg.
A great upgrade/ increasing fuel economy. You might want to consider going with a electric fan. Decreases drag on engine. I prefer reversible electric fan. Reversible option for extended engine running while stopped to push heat out of engine bay. I use color coded lights & 3 position rocker switch. Green normal air flow Red reverse air flow
I just found your channel, and I love it. Great job. I have 2005 4Runner/154K miles and have owed it since it was new. I located some of the things you have mentioned in other videos: trash can, glove box, etc. Holy cow; what a nice surprise after all of these years. Thank you,
I've had a couple of 5th Gen 4 Runners. And I live in the mountains of NC. Unless I'm pulling a trailer, I usually get about 22 mpg or just a little less in everyday driving. Trailer takes it down to 16-18 mpg. I get a lot better mileage in the flatlands of course. Yeah, I watch my weight and stuff but mainly I have a light foot and don't get in a hurry. We don't have Interstates nearby, but I keep close to the speed limit on the US Highways. When I do hit the Interstates, I keep it under 75. At any rate, these things will get reasonable gas mileage, but you can't drive them balls to the wall and expect decent mileage. My bottom line is to be a bit lighter on the right foot. Any time it might save you (and it's usually not much) will cost you greatly. It's all really about the drive anyway, not the destination. Enjoy the trip and save some bucks too. Lighten up on the right foot.
My 2005 4 Runner has been getting 23-24 MPG on the highway since the day I bought it. It’s a six cylinder SR 5, I use regular gasoline, and it has 140,000 miles on it. Bought it new.
2023 forerunner I live in Edmond, Oklahoma, and I travel to Olathe Kansas I get 280 miles per tank and I need 320 I think this will put me over the edge of not having to refuel during the trip
I’ve been utilizing the cruise control more often. Sounds about right, best I ever recorded which I took a picture of was 416 in one tank. I’ve never been able to do it again.
#1 question.. How often should the Transmission be flushed ? with or with out filter is just cleaning the filter be sufficient? #2 question, will changing the serpentine main belt on a 2015 4Runner help the engine Idle that seems to be switching my transmission gears to quickly back and forth at the 35 to 45 MPH range or do you think its the transmission directly causing the gear change strangely.
You are not doing yourself any favors by not subscribing: I’ve covered all of this in the following videos: ua-cam.com/video/4Rhb0xB4zdY/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/JFF8OowJmp4/v-deo.html Transmission fluid change is every 60,000 miles. DO NOT CHANGE THE FILTER, not necessary. Changing the belt does nothing for your idle, cleaning your throttle body will re-adjust it. Our transmissions in the right circunstâncias will do what you’re describing, it’s an old design. Not refined but bulletproof. I hope I answered all your questions. Now don’t forget to subscribe so you don’t miss anymore of the countless tips I give out for free, pretty often. 😉
2016 Trail Premium with 8500 miles. I only get 13mpg on twice a week... in town driving. My mechanic says that the BF Goodrich KO2 tires are the culprit, but they also keep me from having to pay for people to shovel my New England driveway. I just go right through the snow. I shouldn't complain, but retired living means penny pinching.
Your mechanic went for the low hanging fruit on the KO2’s. I put a set of 265/70-17 KO2’s on my ‘21 Venture 4Runner the day after I bought it and averaged 18 on the hwy. I started adding a $4 bottle of octane boost to every fill up and after 3 or 4 tanks I was averaging around 20. Then replaced the stock exhaust with a Borla cat back system and now I’m getting 21-22 running 70. That’s in warm weather not using cruise. With cruise control on it typically drops down to around 19 on the highway. In the winter time with the temperatures in the teens it drops down to around 18 at best. I run a Pedal Commander set on city+2, have Bilstien 6112’s with a 2-1/2” lift in the front and Icon 2” lift coils in the back. Even with my 33” KO 2’s I still get 19-20 hwy in the summer. Now that gas prices are crazy I pulled the 33’s off and went back to the 265’s to get back up over 21. And yes I do drive like an old man.😉
I got 2007 v8 4Runner. Has 240k miles , 3 inch lift and 34 inch ridge grappler tires. I live in mountain and get 17.5 mpg. I drive slow up hills trying to keep my rpms low as I can. I drive down hill in neutral and go up to 85 mph on some hills. I drove with lead foot before and got 14.5 mpg.
@@jsfranks840 There are videos on it. Basically, park your car with the wheels straight and more pressure that you think you will need. Rub chalk lines on the tires in a line across the tread outer to inner. Drive straight for a couple tire rotations and check the chalk. Let a little air out and repeat until the wear on the chalk is even.
I jump on the parkway at 89 and run up to Englewood 87 miles 1 way. I set the cruise control at 70 mph, the best i get is 21 mpg. Its pretty much a flat run all the way up. Done every day!
I just bought a new 2024 4Runner. Should I start using the fuel system cleaner right away? Also, do you recommend changing the oil and filter for the first time at 1000 miles? I'll be owning this vehicle until it dies and would like to squeeze as many miles out of it as I can, so I'm conscious of the maintenance from day one. Thanks for all the tips!
@@VikingsGarageI am getting my 2024 4Runner in 2 days, and I am trying to do my best to maintain the car. Thank you so much for sharing all this info, I am a bit confused though, I thought I read in another reply that you use fuel cleaner every 20K miles, can you please correct me, thanks
I have an 2022 4runner trail running milestar mud tires and went on a 700 mile trip 20mph surprised the crap out of me. These vehicles never stop amazing.
i can get 22-23 highway on my 2011 5.7 tundra. it depends on if you are driving it or just pushing the pedal. read the road, use the throttle to get to speed, back off a smidge, coast when you can, use the road to limit steering movement (i.e. straightest path thru curves), its work, but makes a difference than the 16 i get if i'm lazy.
Followed your instructions exactly on the intake clean and fuel additive, also gonna bump my new tires up a tad (Wildpeaks, stock size). Looking forward to seeing if there's any change. Either way I feel good about giving my girl some TLC anyway. I cleaned the air filter while I was at it (I have a reusable one). With my last fill-up reaching $80, I'll take any help I can get. Thanks so much for a great video!
I have a TRD Off Road 2019 and never off the dealer lot got better than 17 mpg. I’m a pretty conservative driver. So I’m gonna try this and hope to see a bump up in MPG. Thanks for the video
I live in an area with tons of hills, so I usually got 19 MPGs at best, stock. I have a lift with 295's, so I'm only averaging 16 now. I just cleaned my throttle body this week after 70k. I found it easier to remove the throttle body for a thorough cleaning. I'll see if anything improves.
If you’re running an oiled air filter ! The oil will coat the MAF sensor. Clean it every oil change and at 2000 after air filter service. I have a very similar set up 18 is norm 16.5 when MAF is dirty.
Excess/redundant weight is low hanging fruit. Same with items on the roof creating drag. There are way too many soccer moms in my town with a pile of overlanding crap on their 4runner 365 days per year, yet I don't think any of them go off-road. Or the vehicles only see dirt a few times a year. Awnings, cargo baskets, spare tire hitch mounts, shovels, traction boards, extra gas tanks, roof top tents. Nobody needs to drive around town with all that crap hanging off your vehicle and destroying your MPG. Other than the lightweight and low rolling resistance AT tires that I just installed (Nokian Outpost AT in the stock size and SL load range) I plan to keep my 4runner naked and bone stock. I only install the roof rack, cargo box and bike rack if/when I actually need them, then I immediately remove them. It only takes a few minutes to reinstall them as needed.
I think that’s very wise. I do see that a lot, constantly carrying around junk one would only need maybe once or Twice a year. Just installed as needed and your saving 💲 Thank you for sharing your suggestions!
I also found that if I increased tire pressure it helped mpg, had 38psi and it was great, till I had to stop on wet pavement, zero traction. Almost blew a stop sign when ABS kicked on. I prefer 32 for highway now.
That's interesting. I run 38 in mine, and I've never had that issue. Maybe it depends on the tires, or road conditions where you are. I know in places where it rains very infrequently, roads tend to get very slick when it first starts raining. I'm running General Grabber ATX in the stock size and they've been very good in the rain/snow so far.
Keeping your front wheels aligned and changing all the fluids and filters a little bit ahead of time and definitely don’t use hyper thin oil 5W-30 year-round is okey-dokey or 0W 30 and I totally agree with the other guy get rid of the roof rack and find a way that you can seal the holes
Much appreciated video. Thanks for taking us through step by step. Your video are getting me to know my 4Runner more and more. Always looking forward to the next one.
I maintain my 4Runner, changing the oil every 4,000 miles, even grease the drivetrain joints, and I always get 20-21 MPG. I'm just below 100K miles. I think it's because I don't stomp on the gas pedal and I've got few heavy objects in the vehicle.
High flow, non oil air filter replacement for stock paper filter. Replacing this has netted about 22mpg at 70 mph on the freeway. Nitto grappler 2 tires, 36 psi.
I use Berryman B-12 CHEMTOOL in 2017 4Runner and 2000 Tundra 4.7 V8 every 6 months. Before using it, my Tundra failed inspection here in Texas due to the catalytic converter code. A new one was mucho dollars, so after researching possible solutions, I found the B-12 and the Seafoam. I didn't like the fact that Seafoam causes clouds of white smoke, so I went with the Berryman B-12 with no smoke. It worked for me and I passed the inspection on round two.
Awesome video I am also a forerunner owner I actually took my spare tire out just for around in town driving nothing more than six or 7 miles away and that’s almost 100 pounds and it increases your mileage
Greetings. I just did the part of cleaning the air intake assembly. The only thing I did differently was taking off the negative terminal before I began to do any anything. Cleaned it really well until the rag couldn't get any dirtier. Already had a tank full of gas, so I went ahead and poured in the Complete Fuel System cleaner. Popped back the negative terminal and tightened it really good. Started the engine. Let it idle for 5 minutes. Put it in neutral without the AC on; the RPM needle stays in the 1,000 RPM mark. Once I shift it to either Drive or Reverse, the RPMs go to the range you showed (between 650 and 800) I have a 2020 4runner. Should it progressively get to the expected RPMs as the ECM registers that the seal inside the Air Intake is back to how it should have been, or did I do anything wrong? Thanks.
@VikingsGarage quick update. Lo and behold, after two days, finally the idle speed went to between the 690 to 790 RPM ranges. Thank you so much for your help in saving us some money on maintenance tasks and getting the satisfaction of working on our 4Runners and getting results. I appreciate it.
I have been doing most of what you explained here on my 2007 4Runner. I don't accelerate hard from a stop - which helped my gas mileage tremendously, which is about the only thing I know is additional help. Yet, as I watched, I wondered why I had not done the same to my wife's Kia Soul. Kind of a Homer Simpson moment. Well, dah. I bet it can get a mile or two more per gallon. I willing to bet it does.
Try this: when accelerating from a stop, give a light tap on the gas, and then followed by hard acceleration. This works the same in a 4runner as well as any other toyota I've tried this with. Not only it accelerates MUCH faster than floring it from a stop, but the MPG's don't suffer! And your transmission temps don't spike. I monitor active & average MPG's on scangauge 2. My 4runner is also fully loaded with hundreds of pounds of steel armout, RTT, drawers etc.
@@VikingsGarage thanks, I just picked up my sisters 2012 4Runner 2WD (only because she upgraded to a 2018 Limited 7 seater because of the # of nieces/nephews) i just cleaned my mass air flow sensor for fun, and the engine air filter looked clean...so I think I'll play it safe and just stick to what I know since I might at most put 10K miles in a non dusty environment a year I put a K&N cold air intake in my 2007 Toyota Tundra, and I know I had to clean the MAF just because of the oil
It's all about the tire you use on what you will get for mpg really. I had nittos on and they just sucked for mpg threw on a set of copper discoverer at3 ones and now get 22.5 on highway.
Hi Viking great video quick question when I put my 2023 4Runner from neutral to drive it kinda jumps forward like a little stutter is this normal? I have the rwd version thanks
Great advice in your video. Something that I noted worthy to do and that I have done with all my cars is to log every time I buy gas (I fill up), how much fuel I filled up, my ODO meter and what I paid for the gas. Then I play around with different Octane levels. Many times it turns out that the higher octance which is more expensive pays off on the distance when you run the numbers. Also, sometimes it is worth buying the gasoline that is not mixed up with ethanol (if it is available and legal in your state or country). And sometimes cars run pretty ok on E85 every other tank even if it is not made for it. I never tried that with a 4Runner.
I see I’m late with the response.. but I stay within 4psi of max tire pressure not vehicle manufacturer.. vehicle is for softer ride.. but optimum tire wear is tire manufacture, and tire wear.. a bad alignment will burn tires and fuel mileage.
Cool info, thanks! Our 2020 has 15k miles, and OE size Duratracs. We always use Premium Top Tier gas and consistently get 20-21.5 mostly city, some highway. Premium is completely unnecessary, but makes me feel better. Love the bronze wheels 😎
Thank you Sir. Your not wrong on the premium Gas not being necessary, I too fill it up with premium at least once a month. It does have additional additives and detergents can’t hurt. 😉
If you change to premium gas you have to use it for a while for the computer to start to change in order to effectively use it better. Maybe 3 or 4 fillups. I use 87 myself.
@@spatulakingone actually changes in air/ fuel, ignition and valve timing are almost immediate. These increases in horsepower are dependent on altitude, engine load, Knox sensor information tps sensor and map sensor etc. Cleaners may take a few tank full but throttle response doesn't or at least shouldn't.
My ‘23 SR5 Premium (40th Anniversary Edition) gets 22.7 sometimes slightly better on the freeway if I’m gently driving 60-70 I drive a lot of short distance low speed and clock somewhere between 16-17, sometimes when it’s cold, 13-15…but again I live 1 mile from work so it doesn’t work. Like I said, cruising it does the best.
I just picked up a '23 4runner trd offroad last Saturday. Yesterday 217 mile round trip in NH....23.5 mpg . Maybe 20% interstate.. mountains, some highways and small towns. Currently 487 miles.
I drive a 2010 Tacoma with the 4.0 VVTI and get 20 mpg, all stock with an ARE shell on it. Buy a Scanguage because you will see how sensitive the gas pedal is! I also drive 65mph in the freeway.
What about the Infotainment system??? Didn't you loose all your settings when you disconnected the negative battery terminal???? That should set your electronic systems back to 0, or Square 1, or back to original factory settings???
Yes you loose your radio pre-sets but it’s nothing not worth re-setting that idle for. There are devices they sell, that plug into your power outlet if you’re that concern with saving your favorite radio stations all over again.
2010 Trail Edition with 165k miles... I have a K&N reusable air filter and find that if clean it after every oil change i can eek out another 1 - 1.5 MPG. So, here's the MPG journey of my 4Runner: Stock with the Dunlop passenger rated tires I could get 22 MPG for highway driving I added a Gobi rack and I lost 2 MPG - So I averaged around 19 MPG highway I upgraded the tires to LT C rated BFG TA KO's and lost another 1.5 MPG - So around 17.5 MPG I lifted the 4Runner 3 inches, replaced the BFG's with Coopers (lighter) and replaced the stock wheels with SCS Ray 10's (lighter). It ended up being about the same at 17.3 MPG.
I cant find the video where I asked you about a front end noise two weeks ago after eibach lift and 33s on. Just wanted to give you an update. I finally found the rub marks - woo hoo. Easy fix, shave a little more off the bumper cover - wheel well. FIXED. the noise is gone.
I hurt my 4runner gas mileage when I put 20inch rims and some larger tires on mine. So I may try some of year suggestions even though I've had induction service done and a few other things.
I just went from New Jersey to Florida two weeks ago and my 2011 4Runner was averaging out around 400 miles on a full tank of gas and that’s With the cargo area fully loaded.
Im a Seafoam additive user, I put the s#@t in everything...Lol Mass airflow should be sprayed with cleaner at same time too. Don't be afraid to get your rig out on the highway and push the peddle down getting that engine reving high specially if your a city driver. This will help clean up the carbon deposits (use Seafoam at same time). You won't hurt this engine if you let it loose once in a while.
I wouldn't presume to tell anyone what cleaner they "should" use, to each their own. Any cleaner is better than no cleaner. I will tell you, however, which one I use. Seafoam. I've used that stuff in all my engines for years. Before my 4Runner, I had a 2019 Ram. While we were on vacation at the campground the engine started running rough and misfiring. Hemi's are NOTORIOUS for lifter and camshaft failure, so my paranoia went to 11. But, I didn't hear the classic hemi tick. There were two codes, one for misfire in cylinder 6 and another for too lean condition at the 02 sensor. That made me think fuel injectors. So we ran up to the part store and grabbed a bottle of seafoam. Dumped it into the tank and by the time we got back to the campground, not only were the codes gone, but the engine was running smoother than it had in months. Highly recommend seafoam for gas treatments. If you use it for oil system, just know you have to change your oil 100-300 miles after you use it. I've never used the seafoam throttle body cleaner, so I can't speak to that one.
Wondering why you have to disconnect the battery before adding the fuel system cleaner. Does the order of operations matter? Is the battery disconnect what prompts the idle to reset?
Another tip: only use Top Tier fuel (google for full list of stations, but the ones in my area are Shell, Costco, Marathon, Valero, Chevron and Sunoco). Note that BP is no longer on the list. Toyota (and others) recommend. The detergent additives in Top Tier fuels help keep fuel systems clean and it’s legit.
Very excellent point!! 👏🏻👏🏻
Chevron 87 is what use in my 2011 4Runner all the time after seeing consistently how much better mpg I would get.
I got a cylinder misfire in my subaru after using costco fuel. They have lost my trust.
BP uses very good additives just because it’s not on “the list” doesn’t mean anything because they use a lot of additives even in regular fuel
You forgot the best one Exxon.
Greetings from New Jersey! New subscriber here and I'm really enjoying your down to earth approach. I have a stock 2016 SR5 4WD with 130k miles and have routinely gotten 19+ MPG (70/30 Highway/City) since new. I have gotten as much as 23 MPG on moderately loaded 350 mile highway trips. I add Techron every 6 months. I'll be cleaning the throttle body and MAF sensor at my next oil change and will do the idle reset routine at that time. I'm 68 years old and I can honestly say this vehicle is THE BEST I've ever owned! I LOVE MY 4RUNNER! Thanks for your awesome channel!
Thank you so much for your kind words!
Those are some truly impressive numbers, thank you for sharing and for the support!! 🙏🏻
I honestly Agree with you, I’ve owned a lot of cars, nothing beats this one. 👍🏻
2018 SR5 Premium here. I can get over 22MPG on the highway consistently with light truck tires. Agree that tire pressure makes a difference (38PSI cold for me) but speed also makes a HUGE difference. I stay around 60-65MPH and find that going to 75MPH+ can drop me well under 20MPG. These 4runners are basically boxes on wheels so they're not great aerodynamically. Aerodynamic drag increases exponentially with speed so you need to find *your* balance to get there fast vs getting better fuel efficiency. When I'm in a hurry, I drive 75-80MPH and get around 18-19MPG. All conditions are lightly loaded with one passenger and two suitcases.
I know you just confirmed something I’ve been very suspicious of… anything over that 65mph mark will kill the MPG. Smooth transitions are critical.
It does bring me comfort to know that 22MPG us actually possible.
Best consistency I’ve ever reached was 20.5MPG for about 2 months, I was costing downhill also 🤷🏼♂️.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experience, I appreciate that!
6cyl reallystruggle with efficiancy above 70mph
I have a 2008 FJ and during the warm months in Ohio I get almost 23 1/2 mpg. I drive mostly highway, cruise between 60-65 and enjoy my ride with the windows down. I stay to the right and people watch the speedy drivers as they fly by and I build up a train of cars as I near an exit, lol!! Mines rwd which also probably helps with mpg.
Very nice!
I commute between Reno and Salt Lake City half a dozen times a year in my 2021 4R. Speed limit 80mph for a good half or more of that distance, about 250 miles. I try to drive 70-75mph to improve mileage, but on strong windy days, which are not infrequent, I’ve seen my mileage drop to as low as 13mph. Extremely distressing when cost of gas is so high.
Take off that roof rack and crossbars until you need them. Having that up there for "looks" is a big aero dynamitic drag.
I’m most definitely doing that!
Adding an extruded aluminum diy rack to mine with a 46” lightbar didnt change my mpg at all 🤷🏼♂️
Those actually seem better aerodynamics wise.
Very true, same here.
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On my wife's 2019 Limited AWD I changed out the 20" factory wheels and tires to 17" TRD wheels and BFGoodrich's Advantage T/A Sport LT tires - much more of a highway tire. The Limited's 20" wheels and tires weighted in at 76lbs. The 17" TRD wheels and tires weight 61lbs. I dropped 15lbs at each corner plus changed the dynamics of the rotational mass by moving more mass towards the center of the wheel. I have always noticed my Limited to be more sluggish and brake a bit slower then my TRD ORP - the parasitic drag of the AWD system and those 20" heavy wheels. My TRD ORP is still a bit more responsive but drivability of the Limited is much better now. As an additional benefit I picked-up on average 1.5 to 2 MPG better on the Limited. On the highway at 65 to 70 MPH the Limited averages ~21.5MPG where before I was at ~19.5MPG.
Isn’t that crazy how one small modification
(Well not that small)
Can change that much your fuel economy.
I’ll take 2 MPG any day.
Thank you for sharing Sir, super useful info. 👍🏻👏🏻
In West Coast cities if you don't clean out your car regularly some of the more helpful residents will do it for you overnight
Lol 😂 🤣
That’s nice. Here in St. Louis, we have the same kind of folks. It’s usually helpful to leave your doors unlocked. These guys are so nice to help you lose unneeded weight that they will break your windows. I mean, where else can you get that kind of customer service now a days?
@tylers.2069 😅😂
I just accelerate slowly and maintain the ECO light (which I didn’t know was annoying to a lot of owners 😂) as I accelerate. When driving on the highway, I’ll let off the gas a little on uphill sections and let it coast downhill. With no wind or tailwind, I can get up to 23 mpg. With a head wind that number drops back down to 18 or 19 mpg; still better than 15 with rough driving in the wind.
Impressive numbers 👏🏻
I also clean the MAF sensor every oil change. Maybe overkill? But easy to do and takes literally a few minutes.
Now going to add throttle body cleaning to next round of maintenance. 👍🏻
I actually do the MAF cleaning at about every 20k, will add/show that on my Tune-up video😉
I’m glad you’re doing the Throttle body cleaning 👏🏻
Thank you for watching!
Have done the throttle body on both the 4runner and GX470. Baseline your idle # with something like a BlueDriver Pro OBD2 reader. Make the changes and see what happens. Last year on an 1800mi round trip with a loaded basket on the back of the 4Runner, 2 ppl and a 80lb dog, @36psi, we averaged 18mpg. Doing same trip this year and will see how these changes impact MPG. Tip on the throttle body butterfly, be GENTLE when you move it to clean the inside and edges. You can break the motor on it. You can also just remove the 4 bolts and it pops off easily to do both sides. The computer will reset itself, no need to do the battery. Just take it for a drive for 10-15 min and it'll figure it out.
My wife has a stock 2019 XP Edition 4Runner with 12,000+ miles on it. I have a 2003 Z71 Tahoe with 320,000+ miles on it with a leveling kit that is setup to duplicate the "OEM rake", 285/75r16 Cooper S/T Maxx tires on Cragar 16x8, 5" BS Soft 8 steel rims. The only modifications my truck has is an AIRRAID full-flow throttle body intake tube, an AEM dry air filter (after noticing oil residue buildup on my previous Durango in the mass air sensor and the throttle body, I stopped using the K&N oil filters), a set of Gibson headers, new down pipes due to the old ones having the catalytic bricks break apart and sounded like rocks rattling around and a Cherrybomb Vortex 3"in/3"out muffler. So I have decent intake and exhaust. I do also have a Curt extended cargo rack on top with a 32" curved light bar facing to the rear for trailer operations and backing down my 80' "driveway". Oh yeah, one final thing, I have a military HMMWV rear bumper WITH a HMMWV tire carrier. The reason I mention all of these it that my 19 year old Tahoe gets similar gas mileage to her 3 year old 4Runner, about 14mpg in town on short runs that involve some stop and go with traffic lights and just nudging 16.5mpg at highway speeds 65mph max to her 17mpg. Her 4Runner is a slick roof, no cross rails even on the "roof rack". She still gets it serviced at the Yoyo dealership, so I am hesitant to do any of the mods mentioned in the comments right now. Her warranty should be coming up real soon so maybe with a bit of slight of hand I can start switching some things out to improve her fuel mileage. We are both in our senior years and yet have different mindsets on vehicle prep.
I appreciate you sharing your thoughts. I’m sure with a little adjustments you can improve those numbers
I've got a 2017 4Runner TRD. On the highway I get 19.7mpg without any mods. The intake cleaning they do at the dealership makes a sizable difference in mine. It goes down to 17.5mpg when dirty and then back to 19.7mpg clean. 2.2mpg doesn’t seem like much until you look at it as a percentage. It's about 14% better once it’s clean. Gas around here right now is $3.29 per gal for regular. So a savings of just 14% adds up quickly at the pump
Right on, I get very similar numbers. Thank you for sharing!!
@@VikingsGarage Intake cleaning meaning cleaning the intake filters or the throttle body cleaning?
That fuel treatment (which is basically Techron) is the same thing Chevron put into their premium 93 octane at the pump. A clean air filter and fuel injectors are a must for MPG.
Thank you for the info.
I appreciate you watching!
2020 offroad premium, bought new. Stock, I'd routinely see over 20mpg. Best was a little over 23 while drafting traffic at 70-75. EPA estimations are quite low imo.
Currently I'm running a stage 3 ironman 4x4 foam cell pro suspension system, 3.5" in front, 2.5" lift in rear on 33" wildpeaks. Ditch lights can't help the wind resistance either... I now average about 17mpg. On 55mph back roads and during faster highway drafting, I'll occasionally flash into the low-mid 19s.
Never touched the throttle body but I'll probably give it a try as I'm at about 37k miles. K&N filter did improve mileage ever so slightly as well. I'd say after the lift and tires, I'm closer to the stock EPA estimations. If a stock 5th gen isn't getting 20+ on the highway, it's either a right foot problem, weight, or a nasty air filter/TB. Just my .02
Your probably right on that last statement, I do agree.
I’m a bit heavy footed at times, which translates on my current 19.4mpg average. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts.
Thank you!!
I like that the 4Runner uses regular gas. One of the reasons I bought my 2008 Mazda 3 GT was that it runs on regular gas. That has saved me a lot of money over the last 15 years. My financial situation has changed so I don't mind if the 4Runner runs better on mid grade. I'm just trying to get all the info I can. What grade of gas do you use in your 4Runner?
Very cool, I use regular… once in the blue moon I fill it with premium just to get those additive benefits working.
Great tips with the throttle body cleaning and idle reset. I'm going to have to give that a shot, I'm about to hit 140k and I don't know if that's ever been done. As it is, I consistently get 20.0 - 20.5 with mine during my daily commute, and on road trips I can get about 22.5. before I added steel skids, rock sliders, and all terrain tires, I could get 22 pretty easily, and I once got 24.5 on a 400 mi road trip. That's hand calculated, not going by the vehicles readout.
I find the biggest thing with these is driving with a light foot, and keeping it under 70 mph.
Those are impressive numbers. I wish, my foot needs to go on a diet or attitude adjustment or both 🤣.
I do agree with your last statement 💯
Thank you for sharing.
Just followed the tips here on my new-to-me 2016 Trail Premium and it instantly went from showing 380 cruising distance to 425 miles… will be interesting to see how this bears out! Reading through the comments for other tips too 🤓
I’m very happy to see that you’re getting good results! 👍🏻
@@VikingsGarage how often would you recommend doing the cleaning?
Honestly, I believe that every 30,000 miles would be a reasonable time to do it.
Another trick (for those who live in hilly regions) is to give it gas when going downhill and let off the gas when going uphill. It sounds counterintuitive because you'd think you want to coast going downhill. But actually, if you accelerate on the downhill sections, you're gaining momentum with the help of gravity and thus using less gas overall. By slowing down on the uphill, you're not wasting gas by fighting gravity. I get great mpg this way.
I do get what you saying, it’s a skill that one as to Master overtime.
Thank you for the info.
You should never accelerate past your vehicles best drag coefficient even if going down hill. You're wasting fuel. If you have a display that tells you your current mpg you can find your vehicles speed sweet spot. Stick to that no matter what. If your vehicle passes that sweet spot on gravity alone that's great.
wrong - you're just increasng air resistence which goes up as a square to speed
Yeah but you're also WASTING gas by giving it more throttle downhill and missing out on momentum when going up hill by not giving it more throttle thus making you use up more gas. I feel like this is a type of thing that actually needs to be measured by a computer somehow to verify which method is correct.
I live in a hill city and insanely steep mountains all around. Always accelerate hard uphill, downshift into 4th. First, slow accelerations unlocks the torque converter and spikes transmission temps from 180F up to 250F in under a minute or two..... Unless you like exchanging 14 quarts of tranny fluid every year, keep the TC locked up!!!!! Second, when you accelerate HARD and build momentum before the hill gets too steep, the momentum launches the truck up the entire hill with relatively minimal MPG consumption (even at high RPM's) when compared to slow acceleration. Sometimes you need to get the truck up to 80-100mph with the hills we have here for this to work properly. Sometimes the steep grade is so long (15-20 mins) that slow acceleration will cause your transmission temp to go to 300F'ish and cause the trans light to go on. You have to really down shift into 1 or 2 gear and floor it. The high RPM's circulate the transmission fluid and help cool it. Also, don't bother hookinh up a trans cooler through your radiator. Bypass the radiator and install a thermal bypass. Transmission will reach operating temps quicker and cool faster! Always stay around 160-180F.
This might sound like overkill but I run Techron and clean the throttle body with each oil change (5,000 miles or six months whichever come first using Mobil 1). I also run a quality paper air filter and change it at least once per year depending on if I have been on a dusty trail and then of course more frequently. I also check, clean and lube my throttle linkage and grease the drive shaft. Results? NO PROBLEMS! Vehicle has over 120,000 miles.
Nothing wrong with all of that. 👏🏻
I have a '17 5th Gen TRD ORP and have managed over 20 mpg (as high as 24.81 mpg an a 150 mile stretch) on the highway (NOT Interstate) on a vacation trip by doing the following: Use street tires (Not AT/MT) Bridgestone Dueler HT OE tires, keep the pressures at 35 psi, carry only 2 passengers and their vacation stuff for a week (say 150 lbs) and travel on nice weather, almost wind less, and at speeds "averaging" 45 MPH (2 lane state highways makes this reasonable). Car was broken in at around 8,000 miles and in exceptional condition. Front/Rear diff and TC fluids changed at 5,000 miles to synthetic, I always use premium not for the octane but the better detergents.
BTW, I get 17.5 mpg in the city averaging 25 mph. I think the average on the Interstate would drop to 19~20 mpg average if I drove 75 mph steady.
👏🏻👏🏻 That’s some very useful info, Thank you for Sharing!
But who buys a TRD ORP to put street tires on it? And I’m not going to have 2 sets of wheels/tires to swap out to achieve a little better MPG’s.
Everything you mentioned is spot on, but what works for is changing my driving habits, and not being too harsh on the gas, that got me around 23mpg on highways,
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That’s awesome. Driving Habits will make the biggest change .
Actually being harsher on the gas to maintain inertia makes for much better MPG's, and certainly keeps the transmission temps from spiking. If you are "easy" on the gas going up mountains and the transfer case unlocks, your transmission temp can go from 180F to 250F in just 1 minute lol. And you use up more fuel overall, compared to harsh acceleration at the right time, paired with gearing down, that locks the torque converter (no power loss, no heat build up)
Increasing the tire pressure is probably what makes the most difference on your list. When I was younger I filled my Jetta's tires to the psi listed on the side walls. Instead of 32, I think I inflated them to 45 for a cross-country road trip and got AMAZING gas mileage. But! I ruined my tires because they were concave with the excessive pressure and wore down the middle of the treads... down to the steel radials. Ugh. Live and learn. Go off the tire pressures listed on your door jam label.
Always!
Thank you for sharing!
Why disconnect the battery while adding fuel treatment .?
One has nothing to do with the other, he just happened to do it on the video...@@shanenitroinmyveins2504
It’s amazing what a throttle body cleaning does
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I have a 2007 4runner 2wd 133k miles and i get 23-25mpg on highway.
1. Tires- get narrower and smaller tires, like 245 75r17, 265 65r17, 245, 70r17. And get higway rolling resistance tires like michelin ms2, goodyear assurance , cooper ht3
2. Slow down, dont floor it , dont pass a lot.
3. Roof rack can cause air resistant
4. Get a bumper bra or rock chip clear silicone film, and ceramic coat make it cut through air better.
5. Good shocks, control arms, cv axles, wheel bearings maintenance, swat bar so car does have body roll
6. Good fuel pump , spark plugs, air filter, if are tired n old worse mpg.
7. External body add ons , lift kits are not neeed if is a driver car not off roading.
All excellent tips.
Thank you for sharing!
I did a little trip a few weeks ago on my 5th gen 4runner SR5 4WD, I managed to hit 21 mgp, I just did a mayor tune up, mobile1 oil 0-20, transfer case fluid (Redline MT-LV) all differentials fluid replaced(Valvoline 75W-90), K&N air intake, all tires pressure were at 35 psi. I had horrible gas mileage before doing all this. I will be doing transmission service soon.
Very nice!!
Everything you mentioned makes sense and does help. I've changed out the spark coils to the RIPP variant and am keeping notes to see if there is a difference in MPG. I also installed new NGK Laser Iridium plugs at the same time. One thing I've noticed is after installing the Sprint Booster (V3) I don't need to hit the pedal hard to get any meaningful response and mileage did go up slightly by around .3 MPG. I found that the Sprint Booster is much better than the Pedal Commander, which I found to be a joke compared to the SB. Yes, I bought the PC first and realized the error of my ways. Someone else mentioned speed. Yes, keeping these 4-wheel blocks below 65 mph or so does make a big difference.
One thing that was mentioned - wheels and tires. I have a 2016 TRD Pro. I was thinking of "going larger" but then I looked at the increase in weight and rotational mass. Not worth it, especially when I have to deal with those times when we get snow. Wider tires in snow does result in less traction. It's a proven fact that black wheels get better mileage than gold ones. :)
We live in the mountains at around 5,600' and I've found 91 Octane does help in terms of mileage. It does cost more per gallon, but the better mileage does offset that cost, but not by much, but still worth it.
Thanks for taking the time.
Very interesting, will be looking into the Sprint Booster(v3).
Thank you for sharing.
Gold wheels 🤣
I have the PC and love the added throttle response. Why do you prefer the SB? Thanks!
Why do wider tires in snow result in less traction? I've experienced a bit different outcomes with wider tires with extreme snow tread on them, giving me better snow traction. Maybe I'm just imagining things.
Just bought a 23 ORP with 300 miles on the ODO from Idaho, drove it back from ID to CA .. 900+ Miles, got 19-22 MPG most of the way.
Very nice!!
Congrats on the new ride!!
I'm six days into ownership of a 2024 4Runner SR5 Premium, and so far city driving (30-40mph) I'm finding that if I don't gun the rig off the line, keep it at 40 or less while city driving, I can consistently get 19-20mpg. Haven't gone out on the highways yet.
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I took off my skid plates. It’s a 2wd. Oil changes are much faster now.
I bet 😉
15.9 for me, magnaflow, s&b intake, n&b Baja rack, poor man’s brush guard, 1.25 wheel spacers, good year duratrac, and all my camping/survival gear, 8 gallons of water, molle panels with tools etc…
Sweet!! 🤘🏻
On your gas door there are 2 metal pieces sticking out. Kinda round looking. Put the threaded part of your gas cap there rather than letting it hit the paint on the fender
Will do.
My mom was purchased a 2022 4 Runner trd pro she was complaining about the mpg. So I modified her engine, she now get 20 city and 25 highway at 70 mph. So it’s possible.
A little background of what I do helps, I am a auto engineer were i design and help manufacturers by testing parts for the cars. Some of these parts are called OEM (original equipment manufacture) and AMP (After Market Products). Most auto car markers put basic parts in a car because it saves money and meets the specifications. I don’t want to get into the details of this. Typical all cars can improve their performance and fuel efficiency by 3- 5 mpg.
1. Change the stock Air Filter to a K&N filter. You don’t need the cold air intake just the filter it self. But the cold air intake does improve air quality by 3% more.
2. Rolling Resistance, meaning inflate your tire to 40 psi but make sure your tires max are 5 psi lower than the max pressure. The trade off is your car performance and grip will be less. But if you drive safely you should be fine.
3. Change stock spark plugs to performance parts or iridium.
4. Change the stock exhaust to performance exhaust, I installed a dual exhaust and the output is easily noticeable.
5. Driving habits easy on the gas petal in the city. Use the idle stop if your stuck in traffic for longer than 30sec. That’s only if your car has the system installed.
6. Cruise system works great on flat land, but not so great on hills. It’s best, to control with your foot going over hills. You want to keep your rpm below 2,000 if possible.
7. Install an Oil catch can, this engine is a GDI and this will prevent carbon build up.
8. Change to full synthetic oil, because it will last longer and protect your engine while improving performance.
9. Don’t by gas from the cheap from gas stations. You want to use Top Tier Fuel, examples Shell, Exxon, Costco, and etc.
10. Aerodynamic. Having a roof rack and extra weight make the car slower and inefficient. Only use what you need.
Hope this help, even doing a few of these modifications will help your suv performance.
11. There is a carbon filter in your air box for almost all Toyota but that is to ensure all cars meet the emission test for different states. If you remove it there is a 5% increase in efficiency.
Hope this helps y’all out there.
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@@09FoxRider Thanks for your great response to this really helpful video. I’m curious if you (or anyone else) has an opinion about upgrading(?) the original exhaust on a SR5 4R to the TRD Pro exhaust. I am going to try the K&N and figure a slightly more open exhaust should complement the improved air intake. Thanks!
I should add I that I did notice your comment on the dual exhaust, but the trd pro exhaust I am looking at is not.
Stay tuned! There might be more TRD stuff with testing coming up 🤔
2022 Limited. I get 18/22. My secret? I live at the beach. It’s flat. When I go to the mountains - 15/17 plus I’m loaded with bikes, gear….etc.
Makes sense.
My 4Runner SR5 Premium 2021 and my previous auto; A 2011 Honda Pilot: I keep it steady on the hwy at 70mph, I do not break every 5 seconds, no need to have a concrete foot unless I need to pass drivers slower than me. I don't put the AC at full blast and I avoid excessive hard acceleration. Usually at the end of my trip from SF to LA I average about 21-22 mpg. throw in some street driving and I'm looking at 20mpg.
Sounds about right!
A great upgrade/ increasing fuel economy.
You might want to consider going with a electric fan.
Decreases drag on engine.
I prefer reversible electric fan.
Reversible option for extended engine running while stopped to push heat out of engine bay.
I use color coded lights & 3 position rocker switch.
Green normal air flow
Red reverse air flow
I just found your channel, and I love it. Great job. I have 2005 4Runner/154K miles and have owed it since it was new. I located some of the things you have mentioned in other videos: trash can, glove box, etc. Holy cow; what a nice surprise after all of these years. Thank you,
Right on!🤘🏻
I appreciate you watching!
I've had a couple of 5th Gen 4 Runners. And I live in the mountains of NC. Unless I'm pulling a trailer, I usually get about 22 mpg or just a little less in everyday driving. Trailer takes it down to 16-18 mpg. I get a lot better mileage in the flatlands of course.
Yeah, I watch my weight and stuff but mainly I have a light foot and don't get in a hurry. We don't have Interstates nearby, but I keep close to the speed limit on the US Highways. When I do hit the Interstates, I keep it under 75.
At any rate, these things will get reasonable gas mileage, but you can't drive them balls to the wall and expect decent mileage. My bottom line is to be a bit lighter on the right foot. Any time it might save you (and it's usually not much) will cost you greatly. It's all really about the drive anyway, not the destination. Enjoy the trip and save some bucks too. Lighten up on the right foot.
That’s key ☝🏻👏🏻
My 2005 4 Runner has been getting 23-24 MPG on the highway since the day I bought it. It’s a six cylinder SR 5, I use regular gasoline, and it has 140,000 miles on it. Bought it new.
Those my friend are numbers you should definitely be bragging about. Very few people ever see that. Thank you for watching!
I just bought a used 07 Limited V8. I've had if for three weeks. Currently averaging 16.2 at best. I'm trying to find ways to make it better!
2023 forerunner
I live in Edmond, Oklahoma, and I travel to Olathe Kansas
I get 280 miles per tank and I need 320
I think this will put me over the edge of not having to refuel during the trip
Absolutely. Let me know how it works. 💪🏻
Using cruise control everywhere you can. I can average about 325-375 per full tank of gas
I’ve been utilizing the cruise control more often.
Sounds about right, best I ever recorded which I took a picture of was 416 in one tank. I’ve never been able to do it again.
#1 question.. How often should the Transmission be flushed ? with or with out filter is just cleaning the filter be sufficient?
#2 question, will changing the serpentine main belt on a 2015 4Runner help the engine Idle that seems to be switching my transmission gears to quickly back and forth at the 35 to 45 MPH range or do you think its the transmission directly causing the gear change strangely.
You are not doing yourself any favors by not subscribing:
I’ve covered all of this in the following videos:
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Transmission fluid change is every 60,000 miles.
DO NOT CHANGE THE FILTER, not necessary.
Changing the belt does nothing for your idle, cleaning your throttle body will re-adjust it.
Our transmissions in the right circunstâncias will do what you’re describing, it’s an old design. Not refined but bulletproof.
I hope I answered all your questions.
Now don’t forget to subscribe so you don’t miss anymore of the countless tips I give out for free, pretty often. 😉
2016 Trail Premium with 8500 miles. I only get 13mpg on twice a week... in town driving. My mechanic says that the BF Goodrich KO2 tires are the culprit, but they also keep me from having to pay for people to shovel my New England driveway. I just go right through the snow. I shouldn't complain, but retired living means penny pinching.
I hear you, I like the fact that we never, ever get stuck in the snow, which I get plenty. 👍🏻
Your mechanic went for the low hanging fruit on the KO2’s. I put a set of 265/70-17 KO2’s on my ‘21 Venture 4Runner the day after I bought it and averaged 18 on the hwy. I started adding a $4 bottle of octane boost to every fill up and after 3 or 4 tanks I was averaging around 20. Then replaced the stock exhaust with a Borla cat back system and now I’m getting 21-22 running 70.
That’s in warm weather not using cruise. With cruise control on it typically drops down to around 19 on the highway. In the winter time with the temperatures in the teens it drops down to around 18 at best.
I run a Pedal Commander set on city+2, have Bilstien 6112’s with a 2-1/2” lift in the front and Icon 2” lift coils in the back. Even with my 33” KO 2’s I still get 19-20 hwy in the summer. Now that gas prices are crazy I pulled the 33’s off and went back to the 265’s to get back up over 21. And yes I do drive like an old man.😉
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I got 2007 v8 4Runner. Has 240k miles , 3 inch lift and 34 inch ridge grappler tires. I live in mountain and get 17.5 mpg. I drive slow up hills trying to keep my rpms low as I can. I drive down hill in neutral and go up to 85 mph on some hills. I drove with lead foot before and got 14.5 mpg.
The small adjustment go a long way. Thank you for sharing!
I always chalk test my tires if not stock. My current all terrains work best at 42 psi. Better mileage and even wear.
That’s very smart actually.
Thank you for watching!
What do you mean by chalk test?
@@jsfranks840 There are videos on it. Basically, park your car with the wheels straight and more pressure that you think you will need. Rub chalk lines on the tires in a line across the tread outer to inner. Drive straight for a couple tire rotations and check the chalk. Let a little air out and repeat until the wear on the chalk is even.
Toyota has also issued a directive allowing 75 w lube oil for all TCs and Diffs to reduce rolling resistance and improve fuel economy.
Thats an excellent point, cant belie i totally forgot to mention that. I need to start taking notes.
Thank you for including this, very useful.
If you don't use the recommended per owner's manual they can avoid your warranty on your transfer case and differentials.
I jump on the parkway at 89 and run up to Englewood 87 miles 1 way. I set the cruise control at 70 mph, the best i get is 21 mpg. Its pretty much a flat run all the way up. Done every day!
21 Mpg sounds about right, it could increase a little perhaps at a lower speed.
But it won’t go up by much.
I just bought a new 2024 4Runner. Should I start using the fuel system cleaner right away? Also, do you recommend changing the oil and filter for the first time at 1000 miles? I'll be owning this vehicle until it dies and would like to squeeze as many miles out of it as I can, so I'm conscious of the maintenance from day one. Thanks for all the tips!
Change that oil ever 5k and you will be golden (including first oil change)
I add a fuel system cleaner once a month, ever month from day one.
@@VikingsGarageI am getting my 2024 4Runner in 2 days, and I am trying to do my best to maintain the car. Thank you so much for sharing all this info, I am a bit confused though, I thought I read in another reply that you use fuel cleaner every 20K miles, can you please correct me, thanks
@adelabraham6058 Congratulations on the new Ride!
Thanks Treadu 234.9L about 6.80 a gallon.
Best way to gain mileage is to go with highway tires. I went on FB market and bought some SR5 wheels and put on some HT tires. I do 20mpg easy
Good stuff!
I have an 2022 4runner trail running milestar mud tires and went on a 700 mile trip 20mph surprised the crap out of me. These vehicles never stop amazing.
Very cool!! They’re amazing machines.
Mine didn’t get 20mpg stock. Now, I’m lifted, bumper, winch, rack, sliders on 33s and I’m happy I get 15-17 on the highway.
Yeah the mods unfortunately will cost in that department.
Yes! Evry litta bit of help is worth trying. It’s fun when once in a while I break the 15 mark.
I know you can do better, let’s go!! 💪🏻
I want to see 17mpg at least 😅
i can get 22-23 highway on my 2011 5.7 tundra. it depends on if you are driving it or just pushing the pedal. read the road, use the throttle to get to speed, back off a smidge, coast when you can, use the road to limit steering movement (i.e. straightest path thru curves), its work, but makes a difference than the 16 i get if i'm lazy.
Very interesting insight, thank you for sharing!!
I've coasted to stop signs/red lights etc when I can. Amazes me how people fly past you to beat you to the red light.
Followed your instructions exactly on the intake clean and fuel additive, also gonna bump my new tires up a tad (Wildpeaks, stock size). Looking forward to seeing if there's any change. Either way I feel good about giving my girl some TLC anyway. I cleaned the air filter while I was at it (I have a reusable one). With my last fill-up reaching $80, I'll take any help I can get. Thanks so much for a great video!
you’re very welcome! It makes my day to know, you giving it a try and hopefully enjoying the process.
Enjoy your weekend!
I have a TRD Off Road 2019 and never off the dealer lot got better than 17 mpg. I’m a pretty conservative driver. So I’m gonna try this and hope to see a bump up in MPG. Thanks for the video
You got it Sir, Thank you for watching!
I appreciate your support!
Check your tires too. Low air can drag you down too
I live in an area with tons of hills, so I usually got 19 MPGs at best, stock. I have a lift with 295's, so I'm only averaging 16 now. I just cleaned my throttle body this week after 70k. I found it easier to remove the throttle body for a thorough cleaning. I'll see if anything improves.
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If you’re running an oiled air filter ! The oil will coat the MAF sensor. Clean it every oil change and at 2000 after air filter service. I have a very similar set up 18 is norm 16.5 when MAF is dirty.
You’re right. Every little bit helps. Thanks for these tips.
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Excess/redundant weight is low hanging fruit. Same with items on the roof creating drag. There are way too many soccer moms in my town with a pile of overlanding crap on their 4runner 365 days per year, yet I don't think any of them go off-road. Or the vehicles only see dirt a few times a year. Awnings, cargo baskets, spare tire hitch mounts, shovels, traction boards, extra gas tanks, roof top tents. Nobody needs to drive around town with all that crap hanging off your vehicle and destroying your MPG.
Other than the lightweight and low rolling resistance AT tires that I just installed (Nokian Outpost AT in the stock size and SL load range) I plan to keep my 4runner naked and bone stock. I only install the roof rack, cargo box and bike rack if/when I actually need them, then I immediately remove them. It only takes a few minutes to reinstall them as needed.
I think that’s very wise.
I do see that a lot, constantly carrying around junk one would only need maybe once or Twice a year.
Just installed as needed and your saving 💲
Thank you for sharing your suggestions!
I also found that if I increased tire pressure it helped mpg, had 38psi and it was great, till I had to stop on wet pavement, zero traction. Almost blew a stop sign when ABS kicked on. I prefer 32 for highway now.
Hence why one as to really weight his options. Is it really worth the risk.
Thank you for sharing.
That's interesting. I run 38 in mine, and I've never had that issue. Maybe it depends on the tires, or road conditions where you are. I know in places where it rains very infrequently, roads tend to get very slick when it first starts raining. I'm running General Grabber ATX in the stock size and they've been very good in the rain/snow so far.
Airing the tire up to what the tire says will give you the biggest benefit on mpg.
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Keeping your front wheels aligned and changing all the fluids and filters a little bit ahead of time and definitely don’t use hyper thin oil 5W-30 year-round is okey-dokey or 0W 30 and I totally agree with the other guy get rid of the roof rack and find a way that you can seal the holes
Much appreciated video. Thanks for taking us through step by step. Your video are getting me to know my 4Runner more and more. Always looking forward to the next one.
Your very welcome!
I appreciate your kind words!
It’s comments like this that makes it all worth while. 🙏🏻
Be sure to hold the cleaner can with the straw up. When you spray upside down you get more gas than cleaner. You can see it in your video.
I do know that, sometimes things on camera don’t quite come out as we plan. Good point nonetheless. Thank you for sharing.
suggestion, use woodstove paint on your exhaust to prevent rust.
Weight thing isn’t much of a problem living here in Los Angeles. Can’t leave anything in your car sadly. Great tips love the channel!
Much appreciated!!! 🤘🏻
YOU ARE THE MAN!!! thank you for all your knowledge on the 4 Runner buddy!😉
🙏🏻 Thank you!!!
I appreciate you!!
I maintain my 4Runner, changing the oil every 4,000 miles, even grease the drivetrain joints, and I always get 20-21 MPG. I'm just below 100K miles. I think it's because I don't stomp on the gas pedal and I've got few heavy objects in the vehicle.
Lucas is the best honestly. It has won test after test and leaves no residue. It also boosts octane
So I hear, I appreciate you sharing!!
I'm on 18MPG after a throttle plate and body cleanup🤩
Not bad, sweet!!
High flow, non oil air filter replacement for stock paper filter. Replacing this has netted about 22mpg at 70 mph on the freeway. Nitto grappler 2 tires, 36 psi.
I use Berryman B-12 CHEMTOOL in 2017 4Runner and 2000 Tundra 4.7 V8 every 6 months. Before using it, my Tundra failed inspection here in Texas due to the catalytic converter code. A new one was mucho dollars, so after researching possible solutions, I found the B-12 and the Seafoam. I didn't like the fact that Seafoam causes clouds of white smoke, so I went with the Berryman B-12 with no smoke. It worked for me and I passed the inspection on round two.
I appreciate you sharing this!
Awesome video I am also a forerunner owner I actually took my spare tire out just for around in town driving nothing more than six or 7 miles away and that’s almost 100 pounds and it increases your mileage
👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻 That’s awesome!!
Greetings. I just did the part of cleaning the air intake assembly. The only thing I did differently was taking off the negative terminal before I began to do any anything. Cleaned it really well until the rag couldn't get any dirtier. Already had a tank full of gas, so I went ahead and poured in the Complete Fuel System cleaner. Popped back the negative terminal and tightened it really good. Started the engine. Let it idle for 5 minutes. Put it in neutral without the AC on; the RPM needle stays in the 1,000 RPM mark. Once I shift it to either Drive or Reverse, the RPMs go to the range you showed (between 650 and 800) I have a 2020 4runner. Should it progressively get to the expected RPMs as the ECM registers that the seal inside the Air Intake is back to how it should have been, or did I do anything wrong? Thanks.
You did it all right. Give it time, drive it… the ECM will adjust accordingly.
These computers are so advanced that they can adjust themselves.
@VikingsGarage Thanks, I will drive it to get those cleaners going through the system.
@VikingsGarage quick update. Lo and behold, after two days, finally the idle speed went to between the 690 to 790 RPM ranges. Thank you so much for your help in saving us some money on maintenance tasks and getting the satisfaction of working on our 4Runners and getting results. I appreciate it.
You’re very welcome!!
Thank you for Supporting the channel by watching!! 🙏🏻
I have been doing most of what you explained here on my 2007 4Runner. I don't accelerate hard from a stop - which helped my gas mileage tremendously, which is about the only thing I know is additional help. Yet, as I watched, I wondered why I had not done the same to my wife's Kia Soul. Kind of a Homer Simpson moment. Well, dah. I bet it can get a mile or two more per gallon. I willing to bet it does.
That’s awesome, I bet you do.
Thank you for watching!
Try this: when accelerating from a stop, give a light tap on the gas, and then followed by hard acceleration. This works the same in a 4runner as well as any other toyota I've tried this with. Not only it accelerates MUCH faster than floring it from a stop, but the MPG's don't suffer! And your transmission temps don't spike. I monitor active & average MPG's on scangauge 2. My 4runner is also fully loaded with hundreds of pounds of steel armout, RTT, drawers etc.
What about engine air filters? Is it worth getting a K&N or Dryflow
I'm only driving in city, so not worried about dust
I don’t recommend those filters.
@@VikingsGarage thanks, I just picked up my sisters 2012 4Runner 2WD (only because she upgraded to a 2018 Limited 7 seater because of the # of nieces/nephews)
i just cleaned my mass air flow sensor for fun, and the engine air filter looked clean...so I think I'll play it safe and just stick to what I know since I might at most put 10K miles in a non dusty environment a year
I put a K&N cold air intake in my 2007 Toyota Tundra, and I know I had to clean the MAF just because of the oil
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It's all about the tire you use on what you will get for mpg really. I had nittos on and they just sucked for mpg threw on a set of copper discoverer at3 ones and now get 22.5 on highway.
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I appreciate you sharing!
Hi Viking great video quick question when I put my 2023 4Runner from neutral to drive it kinda jumps forward like a little stutter is this normal? I have the rwd version thanks
It’s not normal, but if shifting while in an incline it is expected.
Great advice in your video.
Something that I noted worthy to do and that I have done with all my cars is to log every time I buy gas (I fill up), how much fuel I filled up, my ODO meter and what I paid for the gas. Then I play around with different Octane levels. Many times it turns out that the higher octance which is more expensive pays off on the distance when you run the numbers.
Also, sometimes it is worth buying the gasoline that is not mixed up with ethanol (if it is available and legal in your state or country). And sometimes cars run pretty ok on E85 every other tank even if it is not made for it. I never tried that with a 4Runner.
I do something very similar, I can usually tell that something is of by looking at those numbers.
Thank you for sharing your insightful information.
I see I’m late with the response.. but I stay within 4psi of max tire pressure not vehicle manufacturer.. vehicle is for softer ride.. but optimum tire wear is tire manufacture, and tire wear.. a bad alignment will burn tires and fuel mileage.
I get around 18 mpg in my 2008 4runner sr5 v6 with 178,xxx miles and Yokohama Geolanders.
Not bad at all!!
Cool info, thanks! Our 2020 has 15k miles, and OE size Duratracs. We always use Premium Top Tier gas and consistently get 20-21.5 mostly city, some highway. Premium is completely unnecessary, but makes me feel better. Love the bronze wheels 😎
Thank you Sir.
Your not wrong on the premium Gas not being necessary, I too fill it up with premium at least once a month. It does have additional additives and detergents can’t hurt. 😉
Regular gas is more volitile then premium. Same exact energy.
If you change to premium gas you have to use it for a while for the computer to start to change in order to effectively use it better. Maybe 3 or 4 fillups. I use 87 myself.
@@spatulakingone actually changes in air/ fuel, ignition and valve timing are almost immediate. These increases in horsepower are dependent on altitude, engine load, Knox sensor information tps sensor and map sensor etc. Cleaners may take a few tank full but throttle response doesn't or at least shouldn't.
My ‘23 SR5 Premium (40th Anniversary Edition) gets 22.7 sometimes slightly better on the freeway if I’m gently driving 60-70
I drive a lot of short distance low speed and clock somewhere between 16-17, sometimes when it’s cold, 13-15…but again I live 1 mile from work so it doesn’t work.
Like I said, cruising it does the best.
Highway cruising will get you the best results.
My 2015 at 178,000 miles still averaging 20mpg on the highway. 😉
I just picked up a '23 4runner trd offroad last Saturday. Yesterday 217 mile round trip in NH....23.5 mpg . Maybe 20% interstate.. mountains, some highways and small towns. Currently 487 miles.
Dam, 23.5mpg is awesome!
My new 4runner it’s been averaging 21 mpg in my daily commute. I’ll take it.
@@VikingsGarage thanks
Mine is a daily vehicle, and this helps
I daily drive mine also, so every bit of help is appreciated.
I appreciate you watching!
How much gas improvement could be expected from the intake cleaning?
It all depends on the roads you use and driving habits. Lots of different variants at play.
I drive a 2010 Tacoma with the 4.0 VVTI and get 20 mpg, all stock with an ARE shell on it. Buy a Scanguage because you will see how sensitive the gas pedal is! I also drive 65mph in the freeway.
I used to have a Scangauge, I need get another. Excellent point, Thank you!
Dude keep up the hard work, love the tips
I appreciate that!
Thank you 🙏🏻
How you drive makes a Huge difference in mpg .people often exaggerate with an optimistic bias so you have to take what people say with a grain of salt
Thanks for your last reply. Do you know about the back up intermittent Back up camera display. on the 2015 4Runner??
I’ve seen a radio software update fix it, but often times, it’s a bad camera.
What about the Infotainment system??? Didn't you loose all your settings when you disconnected the negative battery terminal???? That should set your electronic systems back to 0, or Square 1, or back to original factory settings???
Yes you loose your radio pre-sets but it’s nothing not worth re-setting that idle for. There are devices they sell, that plug into your power outlet if you’re that concern with saving your favorite radio stations all over again.
2010 Trail Edition with 165k miles...
I have a K&N reusable air filter and find that if clean it after every oil change i can eek out another 1 - 1.5 MPG.
So, here's the MPG journey of my 4Runner:
Stock with the Dunlop passenger rated tires I could get 22 MPG for highway driving
I added a Gobi rack and I lost 2 MPG - So I averaged around 19 MPG highway
I upgraded the tires to LT C rated BFG TA KO's and lost another 1.5 MPG - So around 17.5 MPG
I lifted the 4Runner 3 inches, replaced the BFG's with Coopers (lighter) and replaced the stock wheels with SCS Ray 10's (lighter). It ended up being about the same at 17.3 MPG.
Thats some really good info. Guys like us always keep an eye on the MPG. Thank you for sharing.
I’m now averaging 20.5 😎
S&B cold air intake. I'm getting 23hwy on my 2022 with a full length roof rack.
I believe it, if only I didn’t have a lead foot!
Thank you for watching and welcome to the channel!!
@@VikingsGarage it's not a miracle cure but it helps lol. I did not buy a 4runner for the mileage lol
Same here.
@@VikingsGarage BTW great page. Great videos. Thanks so much for sharing all of this.
🙏🏻Thank you, I appreciate that!
I cant find the video where I asked you about a front end noise two weeks ago after eibach lift and 33s on. Just wanted to give you an update. I finally found the rub marks - woo hoo. Easy fix, shave a little more off the bumper cover - wheel well. FIXED. the noise is gone.
Very good, I’m glad you found it.
I hurt my 4runner gas mileage when I put 20inch rims and some larger tires on mine. So I may try some of year suggestions even though I've had induction service done and a few other things.
👍🏻 Absolutely!
I just went from New Jersey to Florida two weeks ago and my 2011 4Runner was averaging out around 400 miles on a full tank of gas and that’s With the cargo area fully loaded.
That my friend is a good number.👏🏻👏🏻
Best I’ve ever seen was 421 miles out of a full tank.
Thank you for sharing!!
Im a Seafoam additive user, I put the s#@t in everything...Lol
Mass airflow should be sprayed with cleaner at same time too. Don't be afraid to get your rig out on the highway and push the peddle down getting that engine reving high specially if your a city driver. This will help clean up the carbon deposits (use Seafoam at same time). You won't hurt this engine if you let it loose once in a while.
Right on!! 🤘🏻
My 2006 Nissan Xterra with a 4 liter V6 gets 24 miles to the gallon. But then again, it is also a manual transmission.
That’s absolutely a huge an crucial detail. That’s awesome, manual for the win! 🤘🏻
I love manuals. But I have to say that 4Runners sits alone on the top of the hill, in my opinion. Great advice in this video.
Thank you!!
2021 SR5, 22 mpg highway, and 17 city, in 2wd .
I wouldn't presume to tell anyone what cleaner they "should" use, to each their own. Any cleaner is better than no cleaner. I will tell you, however, which one I use.
Seafoam. I've used that stuff in all my engines for years. Before my 4Runner, I had a 2019 Ram. While we were on vacation at the campground the engine started running rough and misfiring. Hemi's are NOTORIOUS for lifter and camshaft failure, so my paranoia went to 11. But, I didn't hear the classic hemi tick. There were two codes, one for misfire in cylinder 6 and another for too lean condition at the 02 sensor. That made me think fuel injectors. So we ran up to the part store and grabbed a bottle of seafoam. Dumped it into the tank and by the time we got back to the campground, not only were the codes gone, but the engine was running smoother than it had in months.
Highly recommend seafoam for gas treatments. If you use it for oil system, just know you have to change your oil 100-300 miles after you use it. I've never used the seafoam throttle body cleaner, so I can't speak to that one.
What a great story, I appreciate you sharing!
I’ll give it a shot.
Wondering why you have to disconnect the battery before adding the fuel system cleaner. Does the order of operations matter? Is the battery disconnect what prompts the idle to reset?
Yes to the last question, no particular order. 😉
How often would you say you should be doing this? Every 30k? 40k?
If you referring to cleaning the throttle body and plate… my suggestion is. Every 30,000 miles 😉
Thank you for watching!
I appreciate your support!