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Crypto is the worst legend in apex I wish is was in fornite it's so bad crypto all he has is a dumb drone that's it yeah all the other legends ar super good
@@joelramirez5226 no legend in apex is really bad. I’m using crypto right now because I’m trying to find my main. Usually people use him wrong and camp the entire game. I really like your opinion tho
Mirage is fun but he doesn't add anything to you or your team's kit besides a free dummy to throw out to the enemy. He needs a rework to add something to his kit that makes him useful for the team
@@TimProVision How do u get such good aim is it just practice or is it something else I play on controller (PS4) and have dog water aim how do I get so good
Seer is a perfect example of why first impressions should be taken with a grain of salt. The tactical and passive were definitely too strong but he basically got gutted before people could adapt. Now people have adapted and he’s gone from pretty good to just okay. I’m against scan meta as much as the next guy but Bloodhound shouldn’t be such a no-brainer imo.
Both of them are still insanely strong. But I agree with Bloodhound, his tactical is just too much for a unconditional button tap at literally any point
@@Zucca2011 yeah I’m not saying Seer is bad, but his tactical requires some thought and skill now whereas BH can just press a button. I’m biased though as I’ve never found Hound to be very fun or engaging to play despite being strong since their early buffs. I feel like Seer and BH should be on similar levels with varied niches but right now that’s not the case.
Loving that pathfinder found himself atop the list with Valk. I think Loba would find herself closer to the top on B+ just because she can be super useful late game with shield swaps. The ult can also steal things from care packages before anyone can get to them. But her bracelet is a great escapability tool. Catch you soon Tim!
I think fuse's passive to hold two grenades for one item slot is actually really strong, Thermites and arc stars are very useful and being able to carry four for two inventory slots compared to any other legend is a big difference i think. Especially since you can yeet them at higher velocity and further distances.
Crypto is really underrated IMO and I’ve personally had a lot of success running him this season. People often forget about being able to scan the big banners for teams nearby and if you pair with Octane, EMPing and padding on teams is a lot of fun. 👍🏽
5:37 If Loba didnt have her bracelet I probably wouldn't play her... Getting the loot I want then having an ability for me to reposition/get high ground and attack with the exact weapon I picked is satisfying asf. I love that bracelet ; - ;
Make her bracelet have less of a trail, let it be less audible and make it faster in the air would be a good buff but wouldn't make her too overpowered
Honestly as a Loba main, I feel like she's a solid B+ legend. Movement is the meta, and she has a rare advantage of being able to do vertical movement. People also underrate black market as an offensive tool; using it to shield swap, block doors, grab from care packages safely, etc. I think her strength as a support is ammo and very quick rotations. I think bracelet does need a buff, and Loba should be able to open blue bins (she's *LITERALLY A THIEF!* She even comments about how the drawer is still locked if you ping an opened blue supply bin).
There’s a couple things I wish Loba could do, if an enemy squad uses her black market then she should get a notification like caustic or wattson. Also making her “support” part of her build more useful, maybe she could open the blue bins too, hold more health, etc.
I think mirage clones should have 50 health. He can become a perfect counter for the scanning meta and get an insane skill ceiling for people that get good at him. I think Bangalore’s passive should be changed so that receiving dmg also gives her speed. This way she can run out of gas and the storm faster.
thats not bad, maybe even have something small that will make mirages tactical clone more convincing likeeeee idk hold the button while looking directly at target with mirage and the clone will shoot at it and trigger hit indicators but no damage or perhaps just workshop the hit indicator idea but in a different way
I've been maining Rampart even until now and I could say that I never struggle with angles, but sometimes Storm Point terrains make it difficult to build amped cover for the certain angles, which means I need to adapt a lil bit more to the map to fully utilize Rampart. I enjoy Loba a lot recently because of the map size and the distance between terrains so I could teleport here and there with her. Great video as always Tim, lots of love!
@@TimProVision I might have to think to myself in a few days "TimPV should make a weapon tier list and/or weapon combo list" and keep my fingers crossed
Mirages decoys just don’t really have the effect they should, and shooting them barely hurts you(the ping disappears too fast half the time). If mirages decoys stunned and scanned enemies for like 3 seconds on bamboozle he’d be so strong. The enemies could either shoot the decoys and risk getting easily killed because of the stun/scan, or risk a smart mirage acting like a decoy and getting behind them. Honestly I think crypto is lower than that. I like him, but his play style leaves him in the dust. One change they could add is that scanning survey beacons gives him a mini map scan, which could help him find enemies easily and promote a more aggressive playstyle that meshes well with other legends. One drone change of make is that his drone, when deployed, flies in a straight path to the location of your crosshair 50 meters out and gets set up without you having to do anything. If you hold the tactical button the drone will follow your cursor (flying it without the drone cam), and if you double tap the button, you will go into drone mode. It should also have 360 degree scan vs just the line of sight scan. If u use the ult without the drone, he should throw the drone like a throwing knife which emps after a short fuse/when it hits something.
As a Bloodhound main I feel like his tactical is a little unfair because knowing where enemies are is crucial in this game, so having a wallhack ability can seem op sometimes. It could probably use a slight nerf in range or cooldown. That being said it won't stop me from using it at every opportunity I get. ALLFATHER GIVE ME SIGHT! Side note: I also feel like his ultimate last too long for how strong it is. Whenever I pop it I have enough time to push, wipe the whole squad, heal, loot, feed the dog, take the kids to soccer pratice, take a nap, wake up, make a cup of coffee and will still have a few seconds left over Obviously exaggerating a little bit but you get the gist.
Imagine being able to swap with mirage clones. It'd have like a 3sec cooldown between swaps but being able to shoot then swap positions to a safe location with a clone sounds like it'd be a useful and fun buff. Or you're fighting and the ring is about to close on you. You shoot your clone into the safezone and Enemies know it's a clone so they don't shoot it. You reposition with it and now have the ring advantage. Idk being able to "control" your clone was cool when it first came and it's fun, but it's just as worthless as the old clone used to be. Having a real use for the clones would be cool. With his ult you could shoot and swap, shoot and swap, shoot and swap. Bamboozle to the max. Sounds a bit OP but I'm sure it will be adapted with time and won't really effect the flow of the meta all that much.
When mirage uses his Ult and shoots his gun , does his clones do the same? If not Then maybe they should , it would be hard ash for the opponent to react getting shot from seemingly 8 different angles
I have found many people in the Apex community are short sighted and essentially think the only way for a legend to be useful is if they are aggressive, but the characters have been *purposely* built to adapt to multiple playstyles. If you think any legend is bad, the reality is, *you're bad with them.* As an aside, much thanks for catching me up on the meta, Tim.
There's gotta be something they could add for mirage. As a penalty for shooting the decoy, apart from location revealed, maybe flashbang for 3 or 4 seconds. That's not too overpowered at all
@@thegreatsaiyafan I know right. Cuz all someone needs to do is spray bullets everywhere and they'll know they hit the right mirage when the shield colour appears. So it's something to make them think twice about shooting any of his decoy
A stun wouldn't make any sense, nor be balanced or fun to play against. Mirage is built around tricking, so adding more complexity to his decoys should help. Plus he should be switched to the support role and perhaps given more supportive capabilities aside from invis rez.
For the past few seasons, you have been putting your favorite legend at a lower spot which I mad respect. Overall great vid and love your dedication! Keep grinding!
I just want it to be known that my friend mains Loba right now, and he used her Black Market to steal a G7 Scout right out of the hands of a team when they were passing the weapon from one teammate to another. That's just so mean and aggressive thiefing.
My only thought is with lifeline is she needs a rework of an ultimate. Or she needs to be able to drop weapons (different tiers depending on ring size) in her care packes on top of the upgrades
I find my self playing loba this season more than anyone else. Getting on the top of builds and rocks that seem to be a pain in the ass to climb most of the time, also with the new huge ass windows getting in and out of almost all the buildings is extremely easy now and provides better out play potential. Having her Ult during end game fights where my team can poke for days, shield drops for easy swaps also nades. Also blocking doors in some buildings to provide better control in a fight
They need to bring back mirage invisible when ulting , it was powerful They need to bring back lifeline shield when reviving , thats so useful This is the only way for these legend to be better and played more
I mainly play Loba. Because I really dislike the looting phase lol. I find the Q teleport useful getting to ally when I am pinned down, or up to roof tops
i definitely love to play the ranked scene (but i’ve never really been good) i watched this and the small tips you gave for playing each character on the new map ranked is on as well as this awesome tier list, i loved it and helped me get from bronze 4 to gold 1 in 3 days! thanks a million!
Im just glad Caustic and Horizon are back in the A tier. Good to see Path back on top. I don't use him but i didnt like the way they devastated him in season 3. Valk is a GOD rn. I had a 3993 damage game with her lastnight 🥴
If there was a Revenant totem rework I would like to see it would be: Increase totem time from 25 -30 Can no longer interact with abilities while in desth protection (jump pad, zipe line, portal) Death protection increases movement speed by 25%
A- for rev? I’d say B+ Your critique on nerfing his ult due to combos it part of the problem he’s currently in. When he’s not doing the combos the ult is way less effective and not as usable. Personally I think his ult needs a rework that makes it less dependant on other teammates and a bit more versatile.
Holding ult places it down for allies but shorter duration, pressing ult will self induce it and will last longer. Could be useful in more situation when team is in trouble.
But I think assualt champs should be given the option to prioritize their fighting/engage effectiveness, Like Ashe. She can faze breach herself to Gap close on the enemy, or let team mates join in on the assualt.
Always will be a revenant main, there's nothing more annoying then a whole team on death protection attacking from all angles, for the enemie team it can get so overwhelming, especially when theyve also been silenced Also what did you mean about his ultimate needing a nerf? All in all great video!!
As a long COD player, I find Bangalore to be my fav, 1. Has a auto detected signal that can tell you've been spotted (=RADAR) 2. has smoke which can instantly make cover out in thin air, and great for decreasing distances like as playing in cod maps (=smoke grenade, kinda sucks if bloodhound uses ability) 3. Has a air strike for zoning (=kill streak, but kinda useless these days, there is just so much roof environments in the maps) 4. and is badass
Consider putting mirage higher. Its not in the description but shooting a decoy has a high chance of spawning a completely random team on the person that shot the decoy originally, allowing you and your team to third party confidently. Try getting someone to constantly shoot decoys but don't fire back. I can't count how many easy fights I won using this tactic. Being able to influence people to fight each other without taking damage or exposing your position counts for something, right?
A small buff for Mirage could make it so that when he revives, the sound is much quieter or even silent. Or make it so when you revive, the revive sound plays at your location and the decoys locations. Also make the decoys do the revive animation and go invisible too along with Mirage so you can make some clutch revive plays with your ultimate. Another buff could be that the decoys take damage like regular people & depending on what color shield Mirage has, the decoy has that color as well. Just make it so that the decoy has to take like 50 damage or so before it goes away. That way, people waste more time and ammo shooting at decoys & the decoys are more believable. Idk just a few ideas off the top of my head 🤷🏽♂️
Silent/quiet revives would be way too OP tbh. I think if they were to rework him they would have to change his passive to fit his decoy play style more.
Am I the only one that feels like wattson is still pretty underwhelming despite the buffs ? Sure they were slightly helpful but IMO the fences kind of just don’t fit in the game , they are still easily broken in like 1 bullet , her shield regen is so slow it’s almost non existent and I will admit her ult is the best part of her kit IMO , but I just don’t see any reason to use her over caustic , his kit is just way more versatile , his barrels are more effective and can be used to block doors . IMO she is like a solid c tier legend
Yea , and the thing is I like her and all and it’s so satisfying when you get a play with the fences , but their is just better defensive legends out there
Crypto is a bit overrated in my opinion, in the heat of battle he isnt very usefull, yes you can spot people and maybe EMP them but its still a 2v3. As a sidenote and totally unrelated, I hope the Capture the Train mode comes back this Christmas, it is so fun and so well designed. My favourite LTM.
@@TimProVision I think he is given a bit more credit than he should have despite still being ranked low. I mean ive had greater success with mirage and rampart. Mirage buys me extra time to kill enemies and rampart can fortify positions. Crypto's usefullness however greatly depends on your team's skill and not really your own since all the utility of Crypto rely on your teamates capitalizing on the abilities. So for Crypto to be a solid viable pick you need a 3 stack.
One thing I wish they would've done for Fuse is make it to where he's unaffected by his own tactical ability, similarly to Caustic with his gas. You don't know how many times I've killed myself because of my knuckle cluster.
Great video! I was surprised that you put Wattson so high. I still think Wattson has no place in this game. Yes, the opinion may be too subjective, but that's what it is. Personally, this season I only play for Pathfinder, Fuse and am learning to play the Caustic. Your Russian friend ಠ◡ಠ
Ok glad I’m not the only one , I played her a bit before the buff , and though the buffs she got were helpful , IMO it was very minor , her fences got buffed but are still very easily destroyed , and i just can’t find a reason to use her over caustics much more versatile kit even after her buffs
I quit apex for 2 months then you only had 40k subs and now I came back and was soo surprised of how much you have grown keep up the good work. I'm pretty sure you don't remember me I'm Reinis09 from your streams. I'll hop on your stream some time
They should give crypto the ability to see enemy equipment like loba sees items. They also should let him pull out his phone when his weapons are holstered to see how many enemy squads are in his area.
A good caustic main can be easy s tier just for versatility. If you need to retreat he can make a quick fortification and if you need to push he can block doors and use his grenade
I would argue Horizon is S tier in this season because of how many doors there are and the ability to just smash then and keep people scrambling inside a building is insanely useful that people haven’t caught on to yet.
Great video!! But I see a lot of people talking about a nerf to revs ultimate because of its combo with others, I don't really think it's fair or a real reason for a nerf as abilities that are really OP on their own are what needs a nerf whereas this is just strategic play by using a bunch of different characters and abilities in 1 go to make the most out of an ability. It's smart teamwork which is what the games about
I’m now a lifeline main as I play her every game in ranked arenas and that’s pretty much all I play as of now plus I got her heirloom yesterday and those revives in arenas is the best ability by far
I honestly think loba should be higher on the list, she is more that just convenience. More than plenty times I needed grenades to make a play. Or to get ammo, heals, or a shield swap without giving up your position in ranked. I respect your placement on the tier list tho
IMO rampart is one of the best most annoying legends out there sense if she has her many gun and walls at the same time she can kill your whole team faster then any one else but I appreciate you putting crypto higher then people usually do, they over look him a lot but his drone is amazing not even mentioning how good at saving peoples banners it is, I also 2nd main life line and I never used her revive shield before it got removed due to me being kinda new but I still think she’s pretty solid
Been a loyal wraith main since day one. But ash will be my secondary now since they both really fit my playstyle. I think ash is meant for players who specifically look for fights due to her recon type abilities. I don’t see them as overpowered tho. She cant wall hack, only ping from death boxes, and the recent deaths don’t stay on the map for too long.
@@TimProVision thank you very much! i’m very happy you replied because i wish to ask something, I love using loba but i love attacking and trying to get kills. So is loba a good legend or should i try some other legend such as bloodhound or pathfinder for example?
For Wattson she’s like B+ on storm point, but on a map like worlds edge or Olympus she definitely A+ tier. I could definitely tell the difference when worlds edge came back out in the map roster.
Dude you killed my good day putting Mirage that freaking low, I hope no one hears you talking about a rework on him, I do like the idea of a buff and quality improvements, like a passive that doesn't depends on an ally being down.
@@TimProVision yes, I have bad luck with my mains in the games... I usually pick low tier pj without knowing and fall in love with them. The destiny of my mains is being reworked beyond recognition and they leave them "good" but not fun anymore, they change their playstyle so hard...
Wattson is underrated, honestly she can be played in open areas you just need to place fences in a way to pretect you from the enemies when they push you
I’m a lifeline main with 4k kills and I totally agree. We’re in a state where there’s no real point in using her. I definitely think she needs a buff/ rework
@@MLCLAN_SG I do have lifelines heirloom! It’s amazing in my opinion. I’ve played on my friends account who had wraiths heirloom and it was also great but kinda basic. Pick whoever you thinks is better or which you prefer :)
I agree with where you put lifeline BUT now that Wattson is less ass I think people should not underestimate wattson ult with lifeline tactical, drop that behind cover when your team takes big damage and get everyone back up to full health extremely fast while being protected from enemy ordinances (I feel like this could be a very good strat for holding good positioning in ranked late game, especially with Watson having her multiple ult excellerants and lifeline w/ gold helmet)
Also can’t not mention Rampart because she is my main, very glad I’ve taken the time to master the legend who I consider to be the queen of micro management, I am destroying with her on storm point especially in solo squads but I hate playing against her because I know her potential and I end up getting really competitive trying to roll other ramparts and usually die, glad her pick rate is low again she’s in a great spot if they increase her shield placement speed expect the gaming merchant to join a pro team
@@TimProVision also this might be a good thing but it’s so crazy to me that Seer’s pick rate is lower than mirage rn, seer is a monster but I think players really prefer bloodhound because you do have to rely on seers passive or ultimate to use the tactical and it’s alittle easier to dodge but man he is still top 5 legends for me just with the info he can communicate to his team with his passive
Also crazy to me there are legends in this game that don’t even have passive abilities (I.e. path, caustic, and crypto) and ash literally has 2 passives that are both insanely good
Sorry I’m just adding opinions as I watch the video but the fact that Rev can get so much verticality without making much noise compared to legends like horizon or valc should not be underlooked
Sliver age wattson is true terror. It is what people fear. She holds nothing but pure hate, she will never go away. Her golden pack back is always on. The Ramage is always golden. The peace keeper always hits 120.
Valk is the best. I main her all the time. The only thing that sucks is when another Valk main gets her before you and you have to use a different legend. I’m always forgetting that I can’t fly and sometimes die because of it. Only downside I can see to Valk.
For cryptos passive they should let him ads and it will show all teams in the area. Basically give him constant access to banner screen, without being in drone.
Imo the only nerf Valk needs is the stun on her ability being removed. It is just way too annoying and you take on average 20 damage if you get caught in her tactical’s huge radius. Then she can close the gap and get high ground. Not too fun to go against.
No just no. It’s incredibly easy to dodge. Do you really think just simply dealing 20 dmg for a tactical is good? The stun is the only reason the tac is good. Get good lol
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Crypto is the worst legend in apex I wish is was in fornite it's so bad crypto all he has is a dumb drone that's it yeah all the other legends ar super good
Is there by chance that you could read the essay I rote it took me a long time
@@joelramirez5226 git gud
@@joelramirez5226 no legend in apex is really bad. I’m using crypto right now because I’m trying to find my main. Usually people use him wrong and camp the entire game. I really like your opinion tho
I completely disagree that gibby is better than wraith
Mirage main: "yess lemme see what tier mirage is"
"Understandable😔"
Hope he gets some real love soon!
Same man 😞
Spoilers: he won't
Mirage is fun but he doesn't add anything to you or your team's kit besides a free dummy to throw out to the enemy. He needs a rework to add something to his kit that makes him useful for the team
@@TimProVision same man
Was literally browsing UA-cam for season 11 legends tier list and this popped up 4 minutes ago, just what I was looking for
What timing! Best of luck Kays! Hope you enjoy.
@@TimProVision goat 💪🏽
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How do u get such good aim is it just practice or is it something else I play on controller (PS4) and have dog water aim how do I get so good
Algorithm strikes again
Devs : " no balloons on this new map "
Valkyrie mains : " I am the balloon "
Lmao so true.
Always so cocky when "let's Valk out" and they come running
Seer is a perfect example of why first impressions should be taken with a grain of salt.
The tactical and passive were definitely too strong but he basically got gutted before people could adapt. Now people have adapted and he’s gone from pretty good to just okay.
I’m against scan meta as much as the next guy but Bloodhound shouldn’t be such a no-brainer imo.
Appreciate the comment!
Both of them are still insanely strong. But I agree with Bloodhound, his tactical is just too much for a unconditional button tap at literally any point
@@Zucca2011 yeah I’m not saying Seer is bad, but his tactical requires some thought and skill now whereas BH can just press a button.
I’m biased though as I’ve never found Hound to be very fun or engaging to play despite being strong since their early buffs.
I feel like Seer and BH should be on similar levels with varied niches but right now that’s not the case.
@@Zucca2011 you are very wrong
Seer went from a better bh to a far worse bh lol
Valk is just sooo good on this new map, like it was custom made for her.
Yeah its pretty nuts!
her kit is beyond OP on any map
They better not touch my girl i cant play with any other legend lmao
Valk is my go to
@@UncleSamsDevil It's good not OP
I’m winning 3 games a day with Wattson now, back then I’d win one game every 2 weeks. What a lovely change of pace
Glad to hear some Wattson success stories!
Same, my Watson winrate has increased drastically
my wattson win rate went down............
i dont get it
Loving that pathfinder found himself atop the list with Valk. I think Loba would find herself closer to the top on B+ just because she can be super useful late game with shield swaps. The ult can also steal things from care packages before anyone can get to them. But her bracelet is a great escapability tool. Catch you soon Tim!
Thanks Zeke! Path is a real blast this season!
I think fuse's passive to hold two grenades for one item slot is actually really strong, Thermites and arc stars are very useful and being able to carry four for two inventory slots compared to any other legend is a big difference i think. Especially since you can yeet them at higher velocity and further distances.
facts, you can literally shoot them like 300 meters away with no effort
Thats how it used to be in season 0, 1 and 2
For all legends
@@PsychoTrEx yes, and it was removed because of how overpowered it was.
@@PsychoTrEx I played during those seasons but I don’t remember equipment being thrown that far
I like how you detail the reasons for your choices based on your actual gameplay and how their abilities fare in storm point.
Thanks John. Yeah, I try to play every legend at least a bit to see how they are acting when a new season drops.
Crypto is really underrated IMO and I’ve personally had a lot of success running him this season. People often forget about being able to scan the big banners for teams nearby and if you pair with Octane, EMPing and padding on teams is a lot of fun. 👍🏽
Barely any big banners new map
5:37 If Loba didnt have her bracelet I probably wouldn't play her... Getting the loot I want then having an ability for me to reposition/get high ground and attack with the exact weapon I picked is satisfying asf. I love that bracelet ; - ;
Glad you enjoy it! I hope it gets a little more speed or some sort of buff!
I love her too i mostly play legends with the ability to escape of sticky situations but loba is my favourite one.
a decrease in time for weapon swap would make her alot more aggro and fun, or at least make her bracelet trail invisible
Make her bracelet have less of a trail, let it be less audible and make it faster in the air would be a good buff but wouldn't make her too overpowered
Make her be able to fire when the bracelet is in the air.
Honestly as a Loba main, I feel like she's a solid B+ legend. Movement is the meta, and she has a rare advantage of being able to do vertical movement. People also underrate black market as an offensive tool; using it to shield swap, block doors, grab from care packages safely, etc. I think her strength as a support is ammo and very quick rotations. I think bracelet does need a buff, and Loba should be able to open blue bins (she's *LITERALLY A THIEF!* She even comments about how the drawer is still locked if you ping an opened blue supply bin).
Scanning is meta
People forget about her ability to starve teams as well. You can take all the ammo and recourses from other teams
There’s a couple things I wish Loba could do, if an enemy squad uses her black market then she should get a notification like caustic or wattson. Also making her “support” part of her build more useful, maybe she could open the blue bins too, hold more health, etc.
Thanks for the cool ideas!
Why haven't they let her take banners from black market OMG.
@@frankcarson2353 cause it would make crypto even more useless as he is now
@@JRT-805 crypto can take banners?
@@jeftyandrada3644 yep
I think mirage clones should have 50 health. He can become a perfect counter for the scanning meta and get an insane skill ceiling for people that get good at him. I think Bangalore’s passive should be changed so that receiving dmg also gives her speed. This way she can run out of gas and the storm faster.
Interesting ideas! Thanks for sharing :)
thats not bad, maybe even have something small that will make mirages tactical clone more convincing likeeeee idk hold the button while looking directly at target with mirage and the clone will shoot at it and trigger hit indicators but no damage or perhaps just workshop the hit indicator idea but in a different way
He should make scanning give a false reading so if you scan and a mirage is in the scan it should show people in the wrong places
I've been maining Rampart even until now and I could say that I never struggle with angles, but sometimes Storm Point terrains make it difficult to build amped cover for the certain angles, which means I need to adapt a lil bit more to the map to fully utilize Rampart. I enjoy Loba a lot recently because of the map size and the distance between terrains so I could teleport here and there with her. Great video as always Tim, lots of love!
Good point on Rampart with the terrain, never thought of that. Thanks for the love!
I was just thinking to myself this morning "TimPV should make a tier list for S11", and here it is!
I gotchuuu!
@@TimProVision I might have to think to myself in a few days "TimPV should make a weapon tier list and/or weapon combo list" and keep my fingers crossed
Mirages decoys just don’t really have the effect they should, and shooting them barely hurts you(the ping disappears too fast half the time). If mirages decoys stunned and scanned enemies for like 3 seconds on bamboozle he’d be so strong. The enemies could either shoot the decoys and risk getting easily killed because of the stun/scan, or risk a smart mirage acting like a decoy and getting behind them.
Honestly I think crypto is lower than that. I like him, but his play style leaves him in the dust. One change they could add is that scanning survey beacons gives him a mini map scan, which could help him find enemies easily and promote a more aggressive playstyle that meshes well with other legends.
One drone change of make is that his drone, when deployed, flies in a straight path to the location of your crosshair 50 meters out and gets set up without you having to do anything. If you hold the tactical button the drone will follow your cursor (flying it without the drone cam), and if you double tap the button, you will go into drone mode.
It should also have 360 degree scan vs just the line of sight scan.
If u use the ult without the drone, he should throw the drone like a throwing knife which emps after a short fuse/when it hits something.
They should make fuse able to have an extra slot in the backpack reserved for only throwables and same with lifeline but a healing item.
Yes please!
And with wattson and ult accelerants
@@ModestMeowprs basically replace her a new legend is what you are saying lol
As a Bloodhound main I feel like his tactical is a little unfair because knowing where enemies are is crucial in this game, so having a wallhack ability can seem op sometimes.
It could probably use a slight nerf in range or cooldown.
That being said it won't stop me from using it at every opportunity I get.
ALLFATHER GIVE ME SIGHT!
Side note: I also feel like his ultimate last too long for how strong it is.
Whenever I pop it I have enough time to push, wipe the whole squad, heal, loot, feed the dog, take the kids to soccer pratice, take a nap, wake up, make a cup of coffee and will still have a few seconds left over
Obviously exaggerating a little bit but you get the gist.
Appreciate the insights!
Imagine being able to swap with mirage clones. It'd have like a 3sec cooldown between swaps but being able to shoot then swap positions to a safe location with a clone sounds like it'd be a useful and fun buff. Or you're fighting and the ring is about to close on you. You shoot your clone into the safezone and Enemies know it's a clone so they don't shoot it. You reposition with it and now have the ring advantage. Idk being able to "control" your clone was cool when it first came and it's fun, but it's just as worthless as the old clone used to be. Having a real use for the clones would be cool. With his ult you could shoot and swap, shoot and swap, shoot and swap. Bamboozle to the max. Sounds a bit OP but I'm sure it will be adapted with time and won't really effect the flow of the meta all that much.
That would be a bit op,but I think it is a great idea
@@jackmacy5077 It's pretty broken, but it's about time Mirage gets to be op lmao
When mirage uses his Ult and shoots his gun , does his clones do the same? If not Then maybe they should , it would be hard ash for the opponent to react getting shot from seemingly 8 different angles
For Rampart I think it would be nice if both sides boosted damage for her team and for enemies both sides are cover
That would be so nice!
Would be nice but they'd never do that
Sounds a little too strong. Rampart can just dance around her cover when enemies approach her and just easily kill them and take no damage
I have found many people in the Apex community are short sighted and essentially think the only way for a legend to be useful is if they are aggressive, but the characters have been *purposely* built to adapt to multiple playstyles. If you think any legend is bad, the reality is, *you're bad with them.*
As an aside, much thanks for catching me up on the meta, Tim.
Very well said! Every legend is decent or useful. Just the player needs to be putting themselves in the right situation!
Im a valk main and this new map is amazing for her. You and sweatband actually put me onto valk so thanks man!
Anytime! She's a blast!
There's gotta be something they could add for mirage. As a penalty for shooting the decoy, apart from location revealed, maybe flashbang for 3 or 4 seconds. That's not too overpowered at all
Yeah I'm sure there is something.
Flashbang is a great idea. The decoy stunning or lightly damaging you fits with him being DPS, as of now, he's more recon/support than anything.
@@thegreatsaiyafan I know right. Cuz all someone needs to do is spray bullets everywhere and they'll know they hit the right mirage when the shield colour appears. So it's something to make them think twice about shooting any of his decoy
I think they should add decoys that make fake gunshots and aim at the enemy but do no damage to them
A stun wouldn't make any sense, nor be balanced or fun to play against. Mirage is built around tricking, so adding more complexity to his decoys should help. Plus he should be switched to the support role and perhaps given more supportive capabilities aside from invis rez.
For the past few seasons, you have been putting your favorite legend at a lower spot which I mad respect. Overall great vid and love your dedication! Keep grinding!
Yeah... It sucks but I try to be as objective as I can!
I just want it to be known that my friend mains Loba right now, and he used her Black Market to steal a G7 Scout right out of the hands of a team when they were passing the weapon from one teammate to another. That's just so mean and aggressive thiefing.
16:22, Yes Tim, bald wraiths are terrifying. I see a bald wraith, am outta there.
Haha hell yea!
Yooo i am wraith main who switched from bald to hellcat skin should I go back again and improve my 3k badge to 4k 😂
That’s if you can escape the wall bouncing lag demon with a peanut size hit box.
My only thought is with lifeline is she needs a rework of an ultimate. Or she needs to be able to drop weapons (different tiers depending on ring size) in her care packes on top of the upgrades
Yes please! Both of these sound great.
I find my self playing loba this season more than anyone else. Getting on the top of builds and rocks that seem to be a pain in the ass to climb most of the time, also with the new huge ass windows getting in and out of almost all the buildings is extremely easy now and provides better out play potential. Having her Ult during end game fights where my team can poke for days, shield drops for easy swaps also nades. Also blocking doors in some buildings to provide better control in a fight
They need to bring back mirage invisible when ulting , it was powerful
They need to bring back lifeline shield when reviving , thats so useful
This is the only way for these legend to be better and played more
I mainly play Loba.
Because I really dislike the looting phase lol. I find the Q teleport useful getting to ally when I am pinned down, or up to roof tops
Lifeline has been working rly well for my this ssn. I won't even argue with where u put her. I just am really enjoying her kit and subtleness.
Honestly I love picking her for the simplicity. Works well with randoms too
i definitely love to play the ranked scene (but i’ve never really been good) i watched this and the small tips you gave for playing each character on the new map ranked is on as well as this awesome tier list, i loved it and helped me get from bronze 4 to gold 1 in 3 days! thanks a million!
Super happy to help! Thanks for the kind comment!
Im just glad Caustic and Horizon are back in the A tier. Good to see Path back on top. I don't use him but i didnt like the way they devastated him in season 3. Valk is a GOD rn. I had a 3993 damage game with her lastnight 🥴
Valk is soooo good!!
I think your just good at the game ion think its because u use valk maybe tho
@@resonxnce_roy2387 nah Valks movement is really good for Stormpoint. Im not no elite player i can't get pass diamond bruh.
@@CleanEnergy. movement is really good ngl but yeah I started playing horizon feels pretty good ngl
Ever since I started apex last season this channel has been my main source of what to do or buy
Always happy to help :)
@@TimProVision man, u have saved my so much research and time stressing, u deserve like 2 mil
If there was a Revenant totem rework I would like to see it would be:
Increase totem time from 25 -30
Can no longer interact with abilities while in desth protection (jump pad, zipe line, portal)
Death protection increases movement speed by 25%
I agree and disagree, I always thought apex meant for people to combo legends abilities together, it’s bound to happen in a game with abilities anyway
To buff the smoke they could make recon characters scans only reveal people in smoke for less time than normally scanning someone
Never heard of this idea, thanks!
A- for rev? I’d say B+
Your critique on nerfing his ult due to combos it part of the problem he’s currently in. When he’s not doing the combos the ult is way less effective and not as usable.
Personally I think his ult needs a rework that makes it less dependant on other teammates and a bit more versatile.
Thanks for the input.
Holding ult places it down for allies but shorter duration, pressing ult will self induce it and will last longer. Could be useful in more situation when team is in trouble.
I disagree at the core it's a team game so having ults that become much more useful when combined with an effective team are a good thing.
But I think assualt champs should be given the option to prioritize their fighting/engage effectiveness, Like Ashe. She can faze breach herself to Gap close on the enemy, or let team mates join in on the assualt.
@@kassaken6521 🤯
I literally subscribed just because this video… great, informal video, keep up the good work!
Thanks Raptor!
Always will be a revenant main, there's nothing more annoying then a whole team on death protection attacking from all angles, for the enemie team it can get so overwhelming, especially when theyve also been silenced
Also what did you mean about his ultimate needing a nerf?
All in all great video!!
he was talking about using the totem with other ults. etc; jump pad, phase breach, wraith portal
As a long COD player, I find Bangalore to be my fav,
1. Has a auto detected signal that can tell you've been spotted (=RADAR)
2. has smoke which can instantly make cover out in thin air, and great for decreasing distances like as playing in cod maps
(=smoke grenade, kinda sucks if bloodhound uses ability)
3. Has a air strike for zoning (=kill streak, but kinda useless these days, there is just so much roof environments in the maps)
4. and is badass
0:52 reality can be hard to face sometimes. But I still love mirage. I got my first win with him all the way back in season 1. But I am still sad.
Mirage is still a lot of fun!
Consider putting mirage higher. Its not in the description but shooting a decoy has a high chance of spawning a completely random team on the person that shot the decoy originally, allowing you and your team to third party confidently. Try getting someone to constantly shoot decoys but don't fire back. I can't count how many easy fights I won using this tactic. Being able to influence people to fight each other without taking damage or exposing your position counts for something, right?
As a path main, I am very happy with this tier list 😂. Keep up the great work Tim!
Thanks, will do!!
caustic has been my main recently and i’ve never been more happy with a main i’ve had
A small buff for Mirage could make it so that when he revives, the sound is much quieter or even silent. Or make it so when you revive, the revive sound plays at your location and the decoys locations. Also make the decoys do the revive animation and go invisible too along with Mirage so you can make some clutch revive plays with your ultimate.
Another buff could be that the decoys take damage like regular people & depending on what color shield Mirage has, the decoy has that color as well. Just make it so that the decoy has to take like 50 damage or so before it goes away. That way, people waste more time and ammo shooting at decoys & the decoys are more believable. Idk just a few ideas off the top of my head 🤷🏽♂️
Thanks for sharing some ideas! Hopefully he gets some love in the mid season update.
Silent/quiet revives would be way too OP tbh. I think if they were to rework him they would have to change his passive to fit his decoy play style more.
This is why I subscribed, very relatable and quick and simple videos. 100k soon!
Thank you Ethan!
Am I the only one that feels like wattson is still pretty underwhelming despite the buffs ? Sure they were slightly helpful but IMO the fences kind of just don’t fit in the game , they are still easily broken in like 1 bullet , her shield regen is so slow it’s almost non existent and I will admit her ult is the best part of her kit IMO , but I just don’t see any reason to use her over caustic , his kit is just way more versatile , his barrels are more effective and can be used to block doors . IMO she is like a solid c tier legend
Yeah this is pretty fair. She still feels kind of off in the game.
Yea , and the thing is I like her and all and it’s so satisfying when you get a play with the fences , but their is just better defensive legends out there
Didn't know I wasn't subbed to this channel on this account I missed the content fam glad to see this stuff
Woo hoo!!! My girl Valkyrie made it to the top!!😍God I love her as my main!
A superb choice!
SAME SHES THE BEST
In my opinion it sucks that she’s at the top because that means she’ll probably get nerfed
Thanks homie I was waiting for this! ♥️
No problem!! I hope you enjoy.
Crypto is a bit overrated in my opinion, in the heat of battle he isnt very usefull, yes you can spot people and maybe EMP them but its still a 2v3.
As a sidenote and totally unrelated, I hope the Capture the Train mode comes back this Christmas, it is so fun and so well designed. My favourite LTM.
Hmm not sure if overrated is the right term here. He was 17th out of 19 legends.
@@TimProVision I think he is given a bit more credit than he should have despite still being ranked low. I mean ive had greater success with mirage and rampart. Mirage buys me extra time to kill enemies and rampart can fortify positions. Crypto's usefullness however greatly depends on your team's skill and not really your own since all the utility of Crypto rely on your teamates capitalizing on the abilities. So for Crypto to be a solid viable pick you need a 3 stack.
This is the only channel I will trust when making a tier list
Thanks Thomas!
One thing I wish they would've done for Fuse is make it to where he's unaffected by his own tactical ability, similarly to Caustic with his gas. You don't know how many times I've killed myself because of my knuckle cluster.
I just got the game again after about a year and needed to know what legend I should buy tommorow thanks bro.
After his nerfs(Ik I’m bad) I’ve been finding octane really hard to play, but on the new map, mirage seems to be easier to play🤷♂️
Sometimes things do seem odd like that!
TimProVision you are the best underated content creator and to be honest i would rate just like you also 400th veiwer
Super appreciated !
Great video! I was surprised that you put Wattson so high. I still think Wattson has no place in this game. Yes, the opinion may be too subjective, but that's what it is. Personally, this season I only play for Pathfinder, Fuse and am learning to play the Caustic.
Your Russian friend ಠ◡ಠ
Recency may have some positioning for her. She definitely lacks a little bit in terms of Meta. Time will tell! I appreciate the input!
Ok glad I’m not the only one , I played her a bit before the buff , and though the buffs she got were helpful , IMO it was very minor , her fences got buffed but are still very easily destroyed , and i just can’t find a reason to use her over caustics much more versatile kit even after her buffs
Hey Tim! Great video and wanted to ask a question. Do you think I should buy octane, revenant or valk? I’m on pc btw
I've been an octane main since season 1 and I'm glad to see he's still good
Yeah he is solid!
Nice video also how do you hold your controller like do you do the claw thing or not?
I hold it more or less regularly. I do kind of do a hybrid thing where I'll go claw if needed to loot quicker or do actions
@@TimProVision okay thank you!
Thanks so much for the vid, needed a good tier list to compare with Ash being added 👍
My pleasure Micky!
I quit apex for 2 months then you only had 40k subs and now I came back and was soo surprised of how much you have grown keep up the good work. I'm pretty sure you don't remember me I'm Reinis09 from your streams. I'll hop on your stream some time
They should give crypto the ability to see enemy equipment like loba sees items.
They also should let him pull out his phone when his weapons are holstered to see how many enemy squads are in his area.
Thanks for the interesting ideas!
Did u loose subs I thought u had a million subs lol love your vids tho man keep up the work
Haha nah! We are still growing. Thanks Twitch!
A good caustic main can be easy s tier just for versatility. If you need to retreat he can make a quick fortification and if you need to push he can block doors and use his grenade
I love how you’re respectful and said “they” for Bloodhound.
I was waiting for this!!! Thank you!
Hope you enjoyed it!
As a new mirage user, I am astonished at how many people fall for the tactical decoys
man as a pathy main myself im happy to see ur opinion of him but honestly gibby octane wraith etc. are probably still much better teamplay wise
Possibly yeah
Really Great Content, Liked and Subbed and Thx
Thanks and welcome!
I would argue Horizon is S tier in this season because of how many doors there are and the ability to just smash then and keep people scrambling inside a building is insanely useful that people haven’t caught on to yet.
Her ult is pretty bad tho
What are the bug skins on the volt and devotion and where did you get them
Yet another great video please keep up the good work
Thanks, will do!
Great video!!
But I see a lot of people talking about a nerf to revs ultimate because of its combo with others, I don't really think it's fair or a real reason for a nerf as abilities that are really OP on their own are what needs a nerf whereas this is just strategic play by using a bunch of different characters and abilities in 1 go to make the most out of an ability. It's smart teamwork which is what the games about
Yeah, there are ways to nerf it to make it still useful but less effective
I’m now a lifeline main as I play her every game in ranked arenas and that’s pretty much all I play as of now plus I got her heirloom yesterday and those revives in arenas is the best ability by far
He should make a tier list for arenas definitely lifeline must be high
I honestly think loba should be higher on the list, she is more that just convenience. More than plenty times I needed grenades to make a play. Or to get ammo, heals, or a shield swap without giving up your position in ranked. I respect your placement on the tier list tho
Thanks for the input! I'd definitely put her a bit higher if its solely for ranked. Majority of players rock pubs so I do weigh that a little more.
IMO rampart is one of the best most annoying legends out there sense if she has her many gun and walls at the same time she can kill your whole team faster then any one else but I appreciate you putting crypto higher then people usually do, they over look him a lot but his drone is amazing not even mentioning how good at saving peoples banners it is, I also 2nd main life line and I never used her revive shield before it got removed due to me being kinda new but I still think she’s pretty solid
YESSS I was waiting for this and made my own list
Thanks Geno! Hopefully you enjoy this seasons version!
Been a loyal wraith main since day one. But ash will be my secondary now since they both really fit my playstyle.
I think ash is meant for players who specifically look for fights due to her recon type abilities. I don’t see them as overpowered tho. She cant wall hack, only ping from death boxes, and the recent deaths don’t stay on the map for too long.
Well said!
@@MLCLAN_SG currently 4,059
could’ve had more but took a break for two seasons because of burnout. Ranked was starting to get to me.
In arenas Lifeline is crazy good! You should do an arenas their list one day
We did one at the end of Season 9, it may be time to redo it!
@@TimProVision oh crap, I totally forgot that one
@@TimProVision definitely is
Love the tierlists!
Same here!
just started watching you so i can get better at apex!!! Also your videos are amazing, keep putting out these vids
I will do! Best of luck with Apex!
@@TimProVision thank you very much! i’m very happy you replied because i wish to ask something, I love using loba but i love attacking and trying to get kills. So is loba a good legend or should i try some other legend such as bloodhound or pathfinder for example?
Loba is solid for that. Playing who you like the most is important.
@@TimProVision thank you very much!!
For Wattson she’s like B+ on storm point, but on a map like worlds edge or Olympus she definitely A+ tier. I could definitely tell the difference when worlds edge came back out in the map roster.
Yeah I think I'd agree. Its unfortunate for her kit since Storm Point is more or less taking up 50-75% of the map space this season.
Dude you killed my good day putting Mirage that freaking low, I hope no one hears you talking about a rework on him, I do like the idea of a buff and quality improvements, like a passive that doesn't depends on an ally being down.
I'm confused because you say you don't want some reworks and then you say you want a passive and quality improvements.
@@TimProVision yes, I have bad luck with my mains in the games... I usually pick low tier pj without knowing and fall in love with them. The destiny of my mains is being reworked beyond recognition and they leave them "good" but not fun anymore, they change their playstyle so hard...
Wattson is underrated, honestly she can be played in open areas you just need to place fences in a way to pretect you from the enemies when they push you
Thanks for the comment!
I’m a lifeline main with 4k kills and I totally agree. We’re in a state where there’s no real point in using her. I definitely think she needs a buff/ rework
Thanks Cole, hope she has better days ahead!
@@MLCLAN_SG I do have lifelines heirloom! It’s amazing in my opinion. I’ve played on my friends account who had wraiths heirloom and it was also great but kinda basic. Pick whoever you thinks is better or which you prefer :)
Pls do you have custom controller set up? Because my aim on Xbox is NOTHING like that
I have a video on my Season 11 settings.
Been waiting for thiss broo 👀, thanks for the video!
Always my pleasure! Thank you!
I agree with where you put lifeline BUT now that Wattson is less ass I think people should not underestimate wattson ult with lifeline tactical, drop that behind cover when your team takes big damage and get everyone back up to full health extremely fast while being protected from enemy ordinances (I feel like this could be a very good strat for holding good positioning in ranked late game, especially with Watson having her multiple ult excellerants and lifeline w/ gold helmet)
They really do work great together!
Also can’t not mention Rampart because she is my main, very glad I’ve taken the time to master the legend who I consider to be the queen of micro management, I am destroying with her on storm point especially in solo squads but I hate playing against her because I know her potential and I end up getting really competitive trying to roll other ramparts and usually die, glad her pick rate is low again she’s in a great spot if they increase her shield placement speed expect the gaming merchant to join a pro team
@@TimProVision also this might be a good thing but it’s so crazy to me that Seer’s pick rate is lower than mirage rn, seer is a monster but I think players really prefer bloodhound because you do have to rely on seers passive or ultimate to use the tactical and it’s alittle easier to dodge but man he is still top 5 legends for me just with the info he can communicate to his team with his passive
Also crazy to me there are legends in this game that don’t even have passive abilities (I.e. path, caustic, and crypto) and ash literally has 2 passives that are both insanely good
Sorry I’m just adding opinions as I watch the video but the fact that Rev can get so much verticality without making much noise compared to legends like horizon or valc should not be underlooked
You should make a Tier list for Arenas Since I think some Legends Thrive differently when it comes 2 battle Royale nd Arenas
Yeah we did one a while ago, might do it again.
S: Gibby, Valk, Wraith, Ash, Blood
A: Horizon, Caustic, Path, Seer, Bangalore
B: Wattson, Crypto, Octane, Rev, Loba, Fuse
C: Crypto, Lifeline
D: Mirage, Rampart
Thanks for sharing your list! Honestly I dig it!
I love Bangalore because if the enemy misses, you now know their location and you are now faster
they did something with revanants ult and octane combo it makes a totally different sound
Might just be the new Pad sound but not sure, haven't tried it yet !
I have a good new passive for pathefinder if the enemy used hes zipline they will be scaned it’s good or not ??
Maybe, I don't love more recon abilities being added personally.
Sliver age wattson is true terror. It is what people fear. She holds nothing but pure hate, she will never go away. Her golden pack back is always on. The Ramage is always golden. The peace keeper always hits 120.
Valk is the best. I main her all the time. The only thing that sucks is when another Valk main gets her before you and you have to use a different legend. I’m always forgetting that I can’t fly and sometimes die because of it. Only downside I can see to Valk.
For cryptos passive they should let him ads and it will show all teams in the area. Basically give him constant access to banner screen, without being in drone.
Imo the only nerf Valk needs is the stun on her ability being removed. It is just way too annoying and you take on average 20 damage if you get caught in her tactical’s huge radius. Then she can close the gap and get high ground. Not too fun to go against.
I hear ya!
Nope
No just no. It’s incredibly easy to dodge. Do you really think just simply dealing 20 dmg for a tactical is good? The stun is the only reason the tac is good. Get good lol