American rhythms are superior
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2017
- Americans get a measurement system right, for once. Fractional music notation is superior to Latinate notation in every way.
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Well in Canada we use the metric system and the American Music System, so we are officially the best.
So you actually use the French metric system and the German music system. (Which we both use in Germany too...)
Europeans are superior!!! (Well most apart from the French with black and white notes...)
The Imperial system is all over Canada. Try to build something without using the Imperial system.
Unless your main language is french. Then you're racist (blanche and noir? Seriously? It's 2018, it should be called note de coleur)
Except that you're also Canadian...otherwise, sure...
@@theresabw5530 good call on not saying that Germans are superior. That could have been awkward out of context...
OF COURSE THE GERMANS DESIGNED IT.
Precise. Clean. Straight to the point.
Oh, wait.... A, H, C, D, E, F, G ... -way to go, Germany!
Legend has it, that it was supposed to be a B (or rather a small b) but due to bad hand writing it was read as H (or rather a small h).
As a german I always get confused when I have to translate the between H and B, especially because when I think about music, it's mostly in english.
So yeah; german H can s*ck some serious a**. We should just get rid of it.
One day we might! At least I hope so because it makes no fkin sense. B = h and Bb = b in German. It's just stupid.
@@EmmiEmsen in English you write Walk and read WAK.. write Knife and read NIFE.. write Knight and read night..
Makes no fuckin sense...
Adhokshaj Acharya
Haha sorry for the misunderstanding! I wasn't talking about the pronouncation or anything. In German music theory it actually is C, D, E, F, G, A, H, C instead of C, D, E, F, G, A, B, C. If you'd now also add halftones it gets even weirder.
Edit: know to now
Adam, are riffs called "licks" because the rhythmic slices are delicious?
Alex Trendler legend
only THE licc
Only the T H I C C ones
A riff is a riff and a lick is a lick. They’re different things
What is a riff? I always think of a riff in rock and roll terms. A repeating theme. But the word is older than rock and roll. I know they're used in jazz but I don't think it's used in quite the same way. A lick is I believe primarily use for improvising. It's really more of a guideline of possibilities I guess but what exactly is a riff?
Being a person learning music in Scotland... I completely agree with this. The method of using fractions just makes so much more sense to me.
The only benefit of the British system is getting to say HemiDemiSemiquaver.
that's if you can even call that a benefit, I'm sure germans were "like I'm not saying all that for a note that lasts less than a fraction of it"
@@TranceCore3 first and only time a german thought a compound word was too long
The hemidemisemiquaver is even worse than Latin prefixes jammed onto an English word - it's a Greek prefix, a French prefix, and a Latin prefix, all jammed onto an English word.
AzrgExplorers linguistic and cultural gangbang of naming things
I don't get why people care about mixing Greek and Latin and whatever. Words like Polyamory or Hemidemisemiquaver are English.
You should look at German nouns sometime.
DZrache I generally agree, I just think it's hilarious that the inventors of this system had to reach into three different languages to find roots meaning "one-half" to avoid sounding repetitive.
Hahahahah right
Hey Adam! I just realized that in spanish we use a variation of the french system!
Redonda(round)= Whole
Blanca(white)= Half
Negra(black)= Quarter
Corchea(quaver)= Eighth
Semicorchea(semi-quaver)=Sixteenth
Fusa(no idea)= Thirty-second
Semifusa(extra no idea)= Sixty-Fourth
Also I'm in Puerto Rico and I had walk 3 miles in hurricane debris to my mother's office just to get electricity and wi-fi to watch your damn video! Regards!
fusa = demisemiquaver
semifusa = hemidemisemiquaver
You forgot Garrapatea (128) and Semigarrapatea (256)
Lynn McGhee that's not what he tried to type in the parentheses
Stay safe, Alfonso.
Alfonso, that made me smile. In Spain I learned that exact system also, from Redonda to Semifusa. I think I heard about Garrapateas once, but I’ve never seen one in actual sheet music. Does anyone have an example?
As an Englishmen, the accent was above average for a yank.
Yeah, I thought this too!
I agree, it was excellent. I wouldn't be surprised to hear someone with it, though listening closely there's a couple vowel discrepancies. Maybe someone further north wouldn't notice
Imagine the delivery guy gives you only 2/3 of a pizza. Then when you complain about it, he just says: "No, no. This is a 'whole' pizza. It's just in 6/8."
I was refering to the section around 1:20 where Adam explores the possibilities of having a whole note that does not mean "4 beats" but "1 measure". My joke was expanding on that idea by imagining the difficulties of two people coming from different cultures where "whole note" means different things.
Gosh, it always feels awkward to explain jokes, but I will do whatever it takes! ;-)
@DM BlackSchild...but you have only been robbed of 1/4 of the pizza. 6/8=3/4
@@aknopf8173 musicians are so bad at math they dont even know 6/8 =3/4
😂
U mean 6/9. Math is tough huh
Dude you got a pizza? Jealous
Ben Levin oh hey Ben!
Ben Levin Since he used it for the video, and he earns taxable income from the video, he can write that pizza off as a work expense on his taxes.
I'm a bit a drunk, and when I saw that pizza, I got enormously jealous.
As a British drummist, my first reaction to the title was along the lines of "huh? What's this American going to claim about their superiority now?".
Within single-digit-seconds of starting the video, I'm thinking "Oh THAT'S what he's on about, oh hell yes, I absolutely agree!!!"
Sion Jones teaching a bassist/pianist how to drum, she had no idea what an eighth was. Confusing 70 seconds it was
with all due respect sion jones why did you call yourself a "drummist"
it's drummer, too, by the way. Not drummist... dumb crochet
Ashitny
red redder reddest
drum drummer drummest
You gotta admit his british accent was more convincing than the one from that guy on Mary Poppins
In the UK we have a wonderful mix of metric and imperial measurements. We buy beer in pints, read road signs in miles, frequently measure in inches, but also happily buy a litre (yes, that's how we spell it!) bottle of Coke or say something is 'a couple of millimetres (again, our spelling) thick'. We also talk about 'sixteenth notes' as well as semi-quavers. I agree though, this odd system of naming is still important because of the history. Europe has a long history (my mother's house was built around the time that the first colonists were landing in Jamestown!), and much of it we still have written sources for. Old habits die hard! You'll still find an awful lot of Latin if you visit the UK, engraved on buildings yes, but also in the names of flowers, plants, and medicines.
Have you read Howard Goodall's 'History of Music'? It's a fabulous, entertaining and not at all dry book that covers quite a lot of how our current system is really just a mess of ideas, influences and compromises. Highly recommended.
And yes, now I want pizza.
the older generations measure in feet and inches, nobody in my generation (20-25~) that i've met uses inches anymore, we all use centimeters. the miles thing is completely true and i hate it.
I might have to get that book just because it's the guy that wrote the Red Dwarf theme song lol
Your spelling is good since it's french spelling #cocorico
It’s funny, as a Brit I of course know crochets and quavers, but I’ve always referred to (and been taught) them as quarter and eighth notes.
Because its better in every way
In spanish we also say round, white, black, hook and semi hook! (redonda, blanca, negra, corchea, semicorchea)
yes, spanish system is like the french system that Adam describes at the end of the video. Very literal
At least some sense
Spanish for the win!!!
Por cierto, yo siento que es irrelevante el nombre de esos elementos, es decir, a la hora de leer y tocar (solfear) no es como que uno vaya diciendo los nombres de los valores rítmicos.
I came to say this (although it's described by Adam talking about the french system). Not sure why is it "not as good". Being so literal is a plus IMHO.
Well, it's not exactly the same as the french: The hook is "semi" instead of "double", and after that we have fusa and semifusa, but those are extremely rare.
I think it's more meaningful to describe the relationships between the measurements of the notes than the shapes we invented to write the notes. But, like he said, there's no actual difference musically.
I think he was being sarcastic about being "the best"
One theory on why the note values were so long in the old maxim-breve-minim system is that the music being written in that time was meant to be sung in old _churches._ Spaces which have _extremely_ long reverberation times. So there is an upper limit on how fast you can take the tempo before it becomes indecipherable aural mush. Because the language of the sung text is very important in church music, and because the music being written then was focused on the interplay of linear elements (counterpoint), it was important to maintain that clarity in the sound. Common practice music was often written for concert halls and salons and ballrooms, much less reverberant spaces, and so could be written in faster tempos and use shorter note values.
There may be a simpler explanation. As music notation developed/evolved (notation for Gregorian chant has a lot to answer for) like sizing of shoes, clothing, etc., the correlation between an arbitrary measurement and the quanta representing it diverged. It's quite likely - and we have absolutely no way of knowing absolutely - that a minim represented sounds about as long as a quaver is generally regarded today (eight note). In other words, the time is roughly the same but the representation slid to the left. It is a bit out there to suggest music has gotten faster over time. Similarly, reverberation times as a determinant of musical tempo is a long bow to draw. The music of smaller churches would be faster and there has been no reference to such in the literature I've encountered in musicology.
As a young man my shirts sizes were SM (small mens). Somehow, without me changing significantly, all my shirts are now L (large). In terms of shoes, anything from a 6.5 to a 9 are possible matches. For women, dress sizing has moved, possibly to accommodate sensitivity around bigness so that a women who used to be a size 14 now fits into size 10 and smaller garments - through no effort to decrease her actual physical size. Magic!
also worthy to note that in earlier times, there were way less details written on the scores (f.e, dynamiscs noting dating from 19th century, and expression beeing only from late 19th century) ; interprets were to improvise. most of ornaments themselves, and a lot of ornementation artcraft was handed down orally rather than written on scores. There is revival of that fact in the way baroque ensembles play music today
Meanwhile in Finland:
neljäsosanuotti (1/4th note)
kahdeksasosanuotti (1/8th note)
kuudestoistaosanuotti (1/16th note)
kolmaskymmeneskahdesosanuotti (1/32th note)
kuudeskymmenesneljäsosanuotti (1/64th note)
sadaskahdeskymmeneskahdeksasosanuotti (1/128th note)
perkele
Do you really have to SAY those names, or are they just the official names, while no one seriously uses them?
R.I.P. Jean Sibelius trying to say that there's a 32nd note run in a section of a piece
@@instinctbrosgaming9699 Jean Sibelius barely spoke Finnish though. He was a Swedish-speaking Finn. So he probably said helnot, halvnot, fjärdedelsnot, åttondelsnot, sextondelsnot, trettiotvåondelsnot, sextiofjärdedelsnot, hundratjugoåttondelsnot.
@@jameseverett9037 Those are the only names we have for the notes.
Para mí, es:
- Longa
- Cuadrada
- Redonda
- Blanca
- Negra
- Corchea
- Semi corchea
- Fusa
- Semi fusa
- Garrapatea
Desde El Salvador, saludos! :)
Se podria de decir que es similiar al sistema italiano, quiza tengan un origen comun en latin
Lo mismo aquí en chile jajjaja
Oh my god! Nunca había oído de “garrapatea”!! Por qué?? Por qué garrapatea??!! Soy de México e igual usamos este sistema, pero sí he notado que cada vez más mis maestros usan, “dieciseisavo” y “treintaidosavo” en lugar de semicorchea y fusa....
@@ElizabethRainey
En Costa Rica también utilizamos el nombre "garrapatea".
Pero sí, suena horrible.
Y la verdad que yo estoy bastante a favor de utilizar un sistema basado en el Estadounidense-Alemán.
Facilitaría muchísimo el aprender la duración de cada nota.
@@ElizabethRainey para la garrapatea también se usa cuatrifusa, y octafusa para la semigarrapatea
I laughed so hard when you described the french system ! As a french it is the first time in my life I realize how ridiculously literal it is ! I mean yeah, "blanches" are white and "noires" are black after all...
In spanish is the same: whole note is redonda (which means circle shaped), a half note is blanca (white), a quarter note is negra (black), an eight note is corchea (like the French word), etc
And I have been always like: are we racist or something?
@@drifloonsupremacyassociation only if you think you're racist ahahah
@@drifloonsupremacyassociation What is racist about that?
@@drifloonsupremacyassociation So far so good, then you use semi corchea which means a half hook... French system obviously superior
Isn't it more visual than literal. 🤔
I never saw another system to be honest, and i'm not even 'murican.
Same. We use the division system in the Netherlands too. Can't say I ever met a musician who used another system and I know British musicians too.
same, but I'm from germany... sooo...
same in ol belgium
Same here. Would've been nice if Adam explained this weird British system before beginning on ripping it. I'm Dutch, we use the German system (which is what Adam here calls American).
Same in Finland. I had no idea about a system which wasn't based on division
I was taught the "Whole note, half note, quarter note" style and I live in Europe. I'm glad, because it makes so much more sense!
Wait, the French have a sensible counting system? As in the language in which one hundred is preceded by four-twenty-ten-nine?
We also invented the metric system so...
@@clementdenis4212 Touché
@@andymcl92 The French invented that too...
@@robertofontiglia4148 Thanks for explaining my joke to me...
@@andymcl92 oh well...
Hemidemisemihardon.
You mean It barely even turns you on.
or it turns him on for a really short amount of time ?
I said that shit out loud and my furniture started floating
Also known as a zinc deficiency
when you got a tic tac and you're trying to impress your girl
On the subject of units, a "buttload" is an actual unit of measurement. It may only be used unironically in a winery, but it's about as valid as a mile as far as units go.
Phil Varvaro Sick
Vsauce
American Rhythm: I am the most superior
Indian rhythm: Hold my Konnakol
Balinesian not-12-tone-equal-temperament
@@elliott614 Octaves? Simple frequency ratios? Oh, how quaint.
So you meant to title it "The German system is superior"?
He should have.
Nationalism is problematic here... Geez.
There already were two wars related to something like this.
Not really. The American system simplified the German system.
Missed legitimate clickbait opportunity. 😄
Nice video! i just want to comment about the spanish notation (which i think it's a mix of the french and the old mensural notation)
a whole note = "redonda" (means round)
a half note = "blanca" (white)
a quartet = "negra" (black)
an eighth note = "corchea" (it comes from the old french word "crochet")
those notes are a copy of the french notation but....
an sixteenth note = "semi-corchea" (see what we did there? UK notation)
a thirty-second note = "fusa" (fusa is the mensural notation name for a quartet note)
a sixty-fourth note = "semi-fusa"
When I heard there was a new Adam Neely video, I ran the whole hemidemisemimile from my driveway to my living room to watch it.
that's one huge mansion
growing up my gravel drive was 1/4 Mile or about 400m
In Norway, we use whole, half, fourths, and eights, and so on
Denmark too
Sweden too
Poland too
Or just live in Australia and switch between both mid sentence. Ohhhhh music classes are ‘fun’ over here
Whole note - minim - crotchet - quaver - semiquaver - 32nd note - etc
Only the most common values keep the archaic names for us.
Are they?
Then there's the French American system. There's the one with the hole in the middle, the one with no hole, the one with the squiggly on it and the one with two squigglys.
You are my hero
Paul TheSkeptic Wouldn’t that be the Canadian system?
Ravel and Debussy would be proud
HAHAHAHAHAHA!🤣
@@Draco_Alpha I'm french canadian and round whites and double croche are what we use ;)
Changing to fractional music notation is pretty beneficial because since it's math it can be translated perfectly to every language and be more widely understood.
The old latin-based names came from a time, where everybody who could read and write (words or music that is) could also speak latin, so there was no need to translate stuff.
I guess that is about the only benefit of having a clergy with a monopoly on education, though.
Speaking as an Irish music student, I can't stand the minim, crotchet, quaver system.
Man, being occupied and having your culture supressed is one thing, but then having your notes given such stupid names lol
Eyy I also used to be an Irish music student. I learned how to read music on UA-cam before I started music class and the teacher was so confused as to what an eigth note was lol.
Also, if by student you mean an LC music student, God help you if you have Set B with Seachanges.
@@sirbaguette8378 I actually do have Seachanges but I actually really like it lmao
I didn't realize that American music system wasn't used everywhere. It is just a no-brainer to use it.
It's kind of natural speaking and thinking in these terms for us, in the same manner as (I imagine) Americans find thinking in Imperial terms as pretty natural. If I'm honest, I do remember being confused by the different words when I was little and first started doing music, but people just adapt. For me, thinking in terms of fractions is kind of haphazard, even though that's what rhythms are. First time I saw the American system I felt so cheated that people could just refer to them as divisions haha.
No-brainers are actually used everywhere. But there is an American bias.
well, most americans think that the american language system is used everywhere, so don't feel too bad.
Just as it is a no-brainer to use miles instead of kilometers.
@@gussouzamarcondes
Why is the system of mathematical measurement used such a huge superiority debate lol.
oui
Oot
Vive la France !
* _Fuck yeah_ * ;-)
Do you speak French? Sí!
7:48 diarrhea world consequences
Cant unhear that
That's what I heard, glad I'm not the only one.
Omg
It's DIRE world consequences.
@@elijahcorpus3, bet you're fun at parties!
Dude, you gotta invest in a pizza cutter.
Lmao
Just use scissors (don't laugh).
@@smorrow yeah scissors are the way
@@smorrow yeah i love it when the cheese gets stuck in the joint, that'd be so great.
@@_ikako_ You wash it
"demisemihemidemisemiquaver"
Most of Europe uses the system you described but I never heard anyone call it American. It's such an American thing to say.
As the video pointed out, it's really just the German system translated into English.
so true lol
As American as apple pie haha
What's funny is you think that's a negative.
@@BeautyAbExtra "An apple pie is a pie in which the principal filling ingredient is apple, *originated in England* ". even that's not originally american.
You're welcome America.
Greetings from Germany ;)
!!!
Not the first thing they stole from us
Thanks Germany, I guess you supplied the Dutch as well
Diogones of Sinope style your patriotism to
Diogones of Sinope taking credit like you created it.
Tom Brady only uses semifootballs.
Wow. That was extremely clever. You deserve serious kudos for this one. I have a feeling that this comment went way over most people's heads.... like a hail mary.
0:46 Oh that's why I as a German have never heard of any other system.
Can't we have 1/9 notes?
NEIN!
@@Dowlphin thats what triplets are supposed to solve
In Mexico we learn to name the notes from the French system, but since lots of people use the American system (thanks, neighbours) I sometimes use a mix between both systems (even though both ways to call the notes are right and understandable here)
En efecto. En efecto.
Me acuerdo el primer año del conservatorio que nos reíamos de chistes racistas cuando explicaban cosas básicas "No se olviden del silencio de negra" y que todo el mundo se apuraba con el silencio de blanca, lo que llevaba a que la profesora diga "Respeten el silencio de las blancas"
Stemma3 jajaja. Muy buena forma de aprender las notas! Y en el conservatorio... Mis respetos!
Do ré mi fa sol la si do
Explains that the naming system origimated from Germany
Still calls it American
interesting
Typical of americans
Myoshin At least we're the best country in the world.
@@nicememe3793 in what way are the USA the best country in the world? Or are you trying to argue that America is just General better than any other country? Cause that would seem pretty arrogant to me.
Malte r/wooosh
Great video, but "one sixty-fourth note" will never sound as copacetic as "hemi-demi-semi-quaver." 😉
So can't speak for everyone. But when I did music in university in England. We used the American names when discussing music with other musicians and British naming in our music theory classes and tests.
At first I thought the American system of naming was just like an easier more quick way of saying want you theoretically meant in a practical environment. It wasn't until I used the British naming system around Americans and they thought I sounded pompous xP and to be honest it kinda does ...
Also got confused because we use the term tone and semi tones and I think American naming uses hole step and half step or the other way round. I don't really remember .
Love your videos man
@@Aethenthebored I can't remember what I was talking about when I wrote this but I think when I was first talking about the English and American ways I was originally talking about chrochet quavers and semi quavers instead of half quarter and eighth note. Ie the sub divisions of rythym . How ever yeah I will agree with that statement
half step whole step is what you learn when your like 5 but you learn semitone and tone when you get serious in music.
@@equaius893 nah I was taught semi tone at like age 5-6
My dad's allso musical so that's probably why
As a British drummer, I learnt using the American system and found it FAR more useful. From a rhythmic perspective, I think the American system gives a better insight into the spacing of notes, and personally made it easier for me to sight read as I could think of the differing fractions of the numbers (plus percussion sight reading is easier anyway). I don't agree with most of your weird measuring systems and pronunciations Americans, but you are totally right on this one.
P.S. Totally nailed the accent
Yep, for drummers first learning their instrument, I don't see how the British system could ever measure up. An eighth note is just twice as quick as a quarter note. What the fuck is the relationship between a crochet and a quaver? Fuck if I know! How about the relationship between a semibreve and a minim? Shit, who can tell?
What's the relationship between a whole note and a half note? Well, what does it sound like? A half note is half as long. Imagine that.
+Rip Steakface Like most things, you just have to learn the system either way. And please note, while there may be an historical connection, any naming, labelling, categorising is in the the domain of arbitrariness. Why does red mean danger or stop? It's an arbitrary assignment though probably connected to blood or some other negative implication. Ok, the relationship between half, whole, quarter is no big deal; it's not exactly rocket science and barely two dimensional. Playing the game of best, better, besterest is a pretty empty preoccupation - so much energy for such inconsequential results. Let's all chill, respect difference and just play awesome music.
Oh I'm in no way getting at those who use the British system (or any other system), far from it. I'm simply saying that in my experience, I found it 'clicked' much easier and continues to do so even now, where I'm prepping for music school. Music is about your personal experience after all and what makes sense to you.
As a brit who started learning music in secondary school (middle/high school), we were taught the traditional crotchet, quaver stuff. going into music university, still in the UK, they would use the whole beat, half-beat stuff. this threw me off quite a bit. I suppose this was for the european students who are at my uni but here's the thing. Brits typically use both imperial AND metric systems so the cocky europeans who thought we were still purely imperial had a nasty shock when I answer their metric questions and say it's imperial equivalent. Music should be a common language but doesn't harm us brits to know both.
"This note is a ronde"
He sure is. What a lad.
Loved your shoutout to the French naming system. The Spanish system is quite similar:
Whole = Redonda (round)
Half = Blanca (white)
Quarter = Negra (black)
Eighth = Corchea (crochet)
Sixteenth= Semi-corchea (semi-crochet)
That’s the system I grew up with, but I agree 100% with you in the fact that understanding rhythm became simpler once I applied the American naming system.
I'm hungry now. I'd love to have a quaver of that pizza.
I'd love to have a "whole" of that pizza! :-D
from now on, quarter notes will be called "slices"
I'll have a "slice triplet" of pizza carbonara! :D
Please let a Hemidemisemipizza for me
I’m not that hungry, so I’d like a demisemiquaver of pepperoni
I learnt it the “British” way. I haven’t really done much sight-reading or writing in musical notation images though. When I first came to your channel to learn more about theory, I heard you using “quarter note”, “whole note” and much more. It took a second for my subconscious to understand, but _I_ understood it much more easily. Going from 4/4 to another key signature took a a while for me to understand though, but after that it was a lot easier. I completely forgot about the other naming system. Forgot it existed, even. I wondered why everything seemed a lot easier since I last heard of musical notation.
It’s because this system is a lot more intuitive. Way more. You don’t have to learn a name each time you use a new note. If you know how fractions work - which most people understand by Grade 5 or 6 - you’ll know how to name it. If you start music before you know fractions though, it will make it easier to learn fractions! Yay for head-starts!
Seriously, fractions are better than .
*dEmISeMihEmiDeMISemIQuAVEr*
In Dominican republic we use a system similar to french.
In Spanish:
Redonda(round)
Blanca(white)
Negra(black)
and here we fail,
Corchea(crochet)
Semi-corchea (semi crochet)
Fusa (fusa)
Semi-fusa (semi fusa)
And add as many semi's and demi's as you please.
As a proud Englishman (woman, i suppose), I do agree with you. It took me years to get the difference between a minim and a crochet into my head. But I don't think your portrayal of us was completely fair, we're not THAT stuck up.
Excellent and informative, as always. Next time please explain why Germans have an "H" in their scale.
More importantly, why the fuck is a Bb then called a B? I actually kinda like how sharps and flats get -is and -es suffixes, like D# is Dis and Db is Des. Saying H instead of B would've been just fine if they also said Hes instead of Bb. But nope, B=H, Bb = B. Why.
The man doesn't have a clue what is he talking about! He DOES NOT KNOW a simple music elements , but wants to explain us the "american" SYSTEM is "superior" ... the SYSTEM of ignorance and feeling the ARIAN RACE your leadership taught you , maybe , everything else is a pure S.H.I.T.!
Yeah, I've been curious about this too since I've started to learn solfeggio. Didn't ask this question though. So here are my thoughts, that are most likely wrong: it just happened that Fa major (F dur) was the most used scale?
Edit: seems like the assumption that major scale stayed the same throughout all these years might have been wrong, as later comments suggest.
I once read that one time when music was copied from one book to another, the writer mistook an # for an H so B# was read as Hb or something like that.
We use the same system in Hungary and while probably untrue, I have heard multiple times that the H was added so Bach(one of the Bachs) could spell out his name
Sound true enough to me :D
I thought this video was going to be about how Americans have allegedly more Groove than Europeans or Asians, very informative regardless.
Nelson Moreira if you want groove try to listen to modern Afro music, im telling you the Rhytm is crazy !!!
Well I mean we uh
we kinda do
Jon R wtf?
Well I mean, Pantera... Their genre is literally called groove metal, and they're undeniably the best of it. And they're about as American as you get, all of the members are self proclaimed cowboys, born in Texas. Other countries invent things, America takes those things and does them better.
It’s even less sensical than what you’re saying because semi, hemi, and demi all mean the same thing (half) but in Latin, Greek, and Old French.
well 1/32 is half of 1/16 so it's just saying half of a half of a half of a half, etc. so it still kinda makes sense.
@@_ikako_ yes, but is it sensical?
Actually, to me the best system would use a quarter note as the original whole unit. It is actually the way I conceptualize music, and I guess I'm not the only one, according to the fact that they are what we count in bpm and in describing time signatures, they are the actual beats we feel. The real way we count music is in quarter notes, so why shouldn't it be what we count as a whole 1? Even more so as it isnt even measures we count as 1 as soon as we play something that isnt in x/x
SamraK64 that’s an interesting question. After thinking about it, I think I have an answer. What would you call a whole note, or a half note, if a quarter note is the new whole note?
You could say a four-whole-note, but that sounds like four whole notes, while we now just simply say whole note, instead of four quarter notes.
Would make sense. Even Unicode don't recognise notes above the quarter note: ♩ ♪ ♬ ... although it only recognises quarter, eight and sixteenth when in pair. Which ruined my attempt att using symbols.
♩=whole, ♪=half, ♬=quarter, and the the other direction oI=double, O=quadruple. Although I don't see you gaining much from it doing it like this.
1:22 Whoa there yankee doodle! A British man would never utter the words "I don't appreciate the sarcasm". That's like, all we have left to offer the world these days. That, a few female pop singers and the last relevant Beetle.
Jack Pepper whoa there limey boy! Haha 😂
Isn't Radiohead alive and kicking?
I dunno, are the two that aren't Paul McCartney still alive?
Jack Pepper you also have terrorism and rain. God it must suck to be British these days.
Yeah, Ringo sure is swell
Welp. We get to brag about our distance measurements and plugs being superior, you get to brag about your music notation being superior. Fair enough.
Simon The Human both of you use shit systems for mass measurement though.
I think the notation is the same. It's just the nomenclature.
stop embarrassing the nation with your "welp" bullshit you nerd.
American temp. measurement is better as well. Its much more useful and precise.
Fahrenheit sucks cease your Eaglelandian garbage.
Seriously though, bleeeh. I much prefer Celsius, as does most of the scientific community IIRC, because unlike Fahrenheit (which was created based on an incorrect assumption that 0 Fahrenheit was the lowest temperature possible), whereas Celsius is based on the boiling and freezing points of water, which is an actual constant, and also makes those points on the temperature scale much easier to remember.
Thank you for mentioning the french rhythm naming system at the end. I was thinking about it all along the video :D
Actually the french tend to take the "noire" (black - 1/4 note) as the reference because it is the one that indicates the beat of the music and then multiply/divide it by 2, 4, ...
But the german/american system is more self explanatory when coming to the "quantification" of the rhythm as you understand quicker that, for example, a 1/8 note is half the duration of a 1/4 note and so on... and it makes it easier to create rhythm logically as it is just basic mathematics in the end.
Man, your videos are really nice. I never really paid attention to the memes and the subtle jokes that you put in between but now that I do, I appreciate it more. You do put a lot of time and energy into this and it shows also. Nice.
1st thought: Why is there such a clickbaity thumbnail in my suggestions? - Oh, it's just Adam.
2nd thought: Hey, we have the same system here in Germany... oops.
It’s really unfortunate that you chose the pizza metaphor because it takes me back to teaching at a music summer camp for elementary school kids... the director taught them to internalize rhythm by making them chant en masse... “pie, pie, pie” for quarter note beats, “pizza, pizza, pizza” for eighths, and “pepperoni pepperoni” for sixteenths. As we moved on to complex rhythms, this resulted in monstrosities like “piz-roni” and “peppe-pie” and the sound of schoolchildren chanting this will haunt my dreams forever.
I think crochet, quaver and minim just sound cooler
I moved from the UK to North America in my early teens. Not only did I have to learn a new culture (new popular music/movies/sports/slang), I also had to learn the whole/half/quarter/eighth note system. But I did get to go to school on a yellow school bus like in a movie, so that was cool.
You also mentioned it yourself briefly, but I'd say there really is a huge advantage to the fractional system when it comes to learning, especially for young children. I teach bass and guitar in Denmark, where we use the fractional system as well, and as soon children learn to count, the rhythmic values make sense to them in no time. Even more so with adult beginners, whom I've seen pick it up in no time without having trouble remembering it afterwards. Of course that doesn't mean that they can sight read rhythms just like that, but logic is most of the time a good start if you want someone to understand something.
As you say, it's sure not the end of the world that some people use the inferior latrine system, but we all want as many people as possible to understand music (I guess?) as deeply as possible, and removing any roadblock of illogicality (if that's a word) for beginners is a good start I personally think.
On the other hand, I fully agree with you that understanding the reasons to why we notate or name things as we do, and also understanding why some people do it differently, or have done it differently in the past is great for getting a deeper understanding and appreciation of music. And also as someone who enjoys digging into theory and the history of music, two ways of saying one thing in music means double the fun. But for those just starting out on musical notation, simple is king and the fractional system his queen.
Somewhat related, we have this completely illogical way of naming notes in Denmark and Germany, where B is H and Bb is B. The usual theory to why this is, is the rather flat "the monks couldn't write, and their b's looked like h's". The short version of what should be truth as far as I'm concerned (and I'm sorry I only have sources in Danish to back this up www.musikipedia.dk/stamtonerne/tonenavnet-h , cyrk.dk/musik/b/) is that in the middle ages they based music on hexachords (1, 1, 1/2, 1, 1) , and they used them from C, F, and G in the beginning. This made it so, that they would have all the naturals: C D E F G A, F G A Bish-but-lower (Bb, but they didn't call it that) C D, and G A B C D E.
"But goddamnit brother Monk! What's that thing in the middle of the F hexachord, that's a B but not really a B"
"Well, brother Monk Number 2, that's the low B and the one in the G-hexachord is the high B. We'll call them B molle and B durum, (the terms that have evolved to mol and dur, meaning major and minor) and we'll write them in short with a 'soft' b for the low one and a 'hard' b for the high. And those two will later become the symbols for flat and natural, and in northern Europe they'll think that the hard b is an h, since it slightly resembles one, and they're idiots. It'll cause them great confusion!"
"Yes brother Monk! That's terrific!"
Anyway, apart from making me rather furious from time to time, when I want to write an H in Sibelius, but all I get is a crescendo, it confuses nearly everyone and their mother when they start out learning music. "But William. H comes after G not A. Shouldn't it be A B C D E F G H?" "...No"
Again, it's not the end of the world, and once you get used to it, there's no actual problems apart from the occasional confusion and the occasional nuthead who thinks that his way is superior and that you're an idiot who can't even play a B without doing it wrong, and then starts an 8 page thread on how he is right and everyone else is bonkers.
But personally I've started teaching the american/english/logical way of naming it B and Bb to beginners, since it's more natural and logical. Of course I also tell students that the other way exists, so they won't feel completely lost when they get out there and some say things in one way, and others say it in another ('cause even though the H B is the official way of naming here, it's rather 50-50 which nomenclature people use to my experience). I generally encourage people to pick up the B-Bb, and then, if they show interest, pick up both things and understand why there is a difference.
Sorry for the insanely long rambling post, as always you've made a really great video, thanks for making this kind of content Adam, you're the champ. And congrats to whoever actually read this long horse-dung of a post, take a cookie.
As a British person I am justifiably and undeniably outraged at the fact that... our system is pretty shit
You could try switching to the American system, like you did with the formerly "bass" flute.
As a fellow Brit, I've noticed this seems to stem from formal vs informal music tuition. Personally, I use the "American" system, although I don't really think the Americans can claim it as it's just math(s)... and this happened in the American maths community: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Pi_Bill
Loving the math(s). People keep telling me to say maths even tho I learnt it as math
That's the beauty of English. It can be warped an mangled as much as you like, but generally no-one cares as its an language that is very open to evolving.
yes. having a queen is shit.
Redonda, blanca, negra, corchea, semicorchea, fusa, semifusa
Spanish wins my friends
My perspective (no patriotism involved)
Crotchet = 1 beat - ie 1 whole note, seeing as that's how we traditionally measure bpm, as you pointed out.
To me (British), if the two systems were logically aligned, the American way would refer to its whole note to determine bpm.
So crotchet - 60bpm = "whole" - 15bpm.
And then when I hear "quarter notes" I instinctively think semiquaver etc. Then I have to transcribe everything by a factor of 4, and I die inside even MORE. But that's more a critique of language when the American way is superimposed on the (what was already preexisting) European way.
That's how I perceive it all anyway, I don't know if others do.
Of course, it doesn't actually matter...therefore neither can claim superiority...both having logical inconsistencies according to their differing viewpoints, while simultaneously achieving the same desired results.
Game of football, anyone?
Hi Adam, what are your thoughts on alternative notation, such as chromatic scale notation?
A good example is that used on Jan Braunstein's notation for the chromatic lyre: www.delos.cz/en/sheet_music/chromatic_lyre_notation.html . To me so much of this makes sense in the most simplistic way. Many parts of our current notation system are put in place to counteract it's inherent flaws, such as when using transposing instruments, or that fact that the clef system of F/Bass clef, C/Middle Clef, and G/Treble is put in place because it is convenient for most classical instruments, rather than something that makes more sense like octaval clefs that read the same note's regardless of which clef is used. Not to mention the overall system of flats and sharps really just unnecessarily complicate the notation and doesn't help students or musicians actually learn major/minor scale intervals that they would have to know when learning through a 12-note system.
Interested in your thoughts. Seemed like the type of thought provoking topic that you'd dive into.
Rails2Revolution hmm, neat concept, but as a purely chromatic system ot looks quite a bit more cumbersome than standard chromatic tableture.
Not Adam, but my two cents:
Accidentals are actually extremely important for describing chord spelling, intervals, tonal context, pitch tendency, and so on and so forth. Braunstein's method might be simpler as purely mechanical instructions for a performer on a fretted or a keyboard instrument, and it may be superior at describing post-tonal music, but any music with a key center and any semblance of functional harmony will be easier to audiate, analyze, and understand using the traditional notation system.
LONG ASS COMMENT INCOMING, beware.
I just read that, it seems overly complicated considering several things.
1. The tonal system is based on a 7 notes scale, which on a regular pentagram are designed to be placed one next to the other on a line/space pattern.
2. That system is created with 1 instrument in mind and is based on a cromatic approach, which in some cases can be easy to be taught, but in the case of wind instruments, learning the chromatic positions can be quite tricky to do at first and has no musical application for a new student, and ideally you want to learn to read while learning to play. On other instruments like guitar or violin playing a chromatic scale is not harder than others or require special fingerings to achieve so this could make sense.
3. You get rid of the sharps and flats, which in turn become a color coding? doesn't seem like a simplification, just a different problem.
4. Tied to point 1, to read scales you'd have jumps and color coding, when before you'd have 1 of each of each "note" and that'd be seen on the staff. You always have one A, one B, one C, or La, Si and Do, or whatever you call them. Ex. Ab Bb C Db Eb F G on Ab, you change the alterations on the staff at the beggining and you are not reading the flats anymore, you have one of each note and that's it, and the accidentals are just that, accidentals.
5. The rythmic system is messed up now, you have to read things above the notes, adding a 2nd layer, and it changes the notation convention, so instead of only having to learn new notes positions, you have to learn some new rythmic figures as well which is not hard, but still.
6. it seems as if you can't have more than 1 octave without adding another 2 line staff which actually takes more space than the regular 5 lines staff since the 12 half-steps are all considered when spacing.
7. Different clefs are there to better position the notes for instruments that play in those registers, since every instrument plays a different range. With the fix octave system or if an instrument has a range vastly outside of the pentagram range, you'd have too many additional lines (Or extra staves on this chromatic system). Woodwinds (that I play), read a few lines below the staff (1-2 for saxes and flute, 3 for clarinet) and a couple more above, usually solved with a "high octave line" and notation one octave lower when going to the altissimo register. Could those instruments be read on a bass clef? sure, but they would get rid of the lower extra line and add it on top which makes it unbalanced. The different clefs are for simplification, all the saxes play the treble clef because the notes on the instrument are better fit to it and allow us to grab any sax and read. Trombones lower notes are better fit for a bass clef and viola are better for a C clef. An universal system would be out of place depending what's the lowest and highest note on your instrument.
All considered it tries to fix some issues but in turn creates some others, I wouldn't consider it a solution to regular notation's flaws, and it wouldn't be helpful in instruments with a wide range. It doesn't consider the instrument's register so an extra staff will be added for most winds, if not two, and sometimes for as few as one note.
On more limited instruments such as guitar and bass (before you start adding extra strings, changing the tuning, extra frets and such practices) I could see it working to a degree since most have a fix range of 2-3 octaves and a bit more, but in a piano it'd be very impractical.
I'd really like to hear Adam's opinion on this.
Waaaaaaaaaaaait a second.
Italians say quarto, ottavo, sedicesimo.
No one in their right mind would say semiminima, croma e semicroma in 2018.
Is it because we got invaded by the bloody Austrians?
You just use it because it's easier and makes more sense.
You also use the arabian number system (1 2 3 etc.) instead of the old roman one ( I II III IV V etc.) even though you never got invaded by Arabia.
Some systems just spread because they are... superior :)
We still say mínima, semínima, etc in portuguese, at least in Brasil :)
in portuguese we actually use semibreve, mínima, semínima, colcheia, semicolcheia, fusa, semifusa and quartifusa.
@@Andrei.Christop I am mind blown.
Nelle scuole e anche fuori si dice ancora minima semiminima etc
Damn dude, you always blow my mind. Thanks for doing an awesome job and making a great (and very informative) video! Cheers! :D
Noticed T H E L I C C at 4:40?
That pizza doesn't look appetizing at all tbh
Eli Rutter thank you! Throw some ham and pineapple on that bish!
trust me, it was delicious.
Bitch fight me, it looked like a delicious NY Pizza
That's because American pizza is terible
Denni Wintyr implying any pizza is terrible
You might be surprised but in the Russian language, we call it exactly in the same way and I think in the German language it's called like that too. So you guys are not alone in that :-)
After I've finished watching the video I came to the idea that Germans spread it not only to the US but to the East as well.
We are good at spreading after all. Though we rarely reach Moscow ^_^
It's the same in Greece, too.
I think you raise a very valid point.
I'm English and can't even remember what the correct names for all the notes are, but off the top of my head from longest to shortest it's
Semibreve
Minuet
Crotchet
Quaver
Semi quaver
Demi semi quaver
That really long one you said (rarely used)
I probably made some mistakes because it's rare I'll ask someone "play that all as minuets" usually we'll just clap the rhythm to the tempo or play along in the same key so they "get the rhythm" it's very rare we speak the names of the note lengths out loud but you know from being able to read "this symbol means play for 1/4 of a bar" so hats off to the Germans for that one and hats off to our friends across the pond for adopting it. I wondered why they never used the "proper musical names" but to be honest, who gives a shit what they're called, they all make the same sound if you read the sheet/score correctly.
Hey Adam! What you called Fusa is actually named as "colcheia", Fusa would be the fourth division of the Colcheia. At least here in Brazil, and other latim countries, as far as I know. Names of rhythms changed so much from time to time and place to place, it's crazy!
In Sweden we call all notes up to the whole note in the German/American way, and everything longer that that in the Latin/British way.
Also the American imperial mesures are defined by the metric system, so technically the US officially uses the metric system, but incredibly weird devisions and terminology!
Yes and no. The American system uses measurements that are extremely arbitrary and can vary drastically. For example, your foot length is determined by a series of things, so you'd end with two people measuing feet and coming up with two different values and they'd both be right.
The American system does the same. A double-whole note is called a breve etc. It doesn't come up very often unless you're working with medieval music though.
The "accepted" American names are double, quadruple, and octuple whole notes for breve, longa, and maxima, respectively, but it's so rare to hear anyone mention either that you hear both naming styles in about equal amounts for breve/double, and I've only ever heard longa and maxima for those note values.
CrimSun a foot is exactly 30.48 cm and is defined by that.
How do you call the notes? C, D, E etc...?
It's so strange to hear English natives speak German.
Nearly as strange as hearing Americans speak English..;-))
native english speaker but I still die on the inside when I hear someone fuck up pronunciation of german words
how could you not know how to fucking pronounce j, w or au after taking a fucking class on the language in high school
IPlayPCTooMuch To be fair, speaking a language accent-free works almost only if you learn it from 2.grade or something or if you spent a year in the corresponding country. I think it's a thing about the languages being so different, so many Germans speak crappy English and many English natives speak crappy German.
An academic and entirely compelling video where I don’t have to worry about getting the chords in the wrong order in my last song (only to find out it sounded really much worse in the ‘correct’ order). I didn’t even know this was an American system rooted in German thinking. I do know, that some classes from the previous centuries spent a LOT of time making sure their craft was impenetrable to ‘ordinary’ folk, and especially anyone needing to pay them to do it. Hence the limited, slow, and illogical claptrap surrounding nomenclature in music. I would say, biology was another perfect and even more crazy example. Sometimes, the American nation is able to communicate more straightforwardly and without fuss, what has been clouded in mystique. Unless, of course, it impedes making money! Then, smoke and mirrors you guys can do with the best of them! Thanks Adam, I loved this. PS shout-out to Rick Beato, it’s your appearance there got me here.
I am subscribed now. And I have to say I am very impressed by what you do. I was skeptical in the beginning as I am neither a musician myself nor have I ever been interested in musical theory. But after watching a few of your videos and getting a feeling of what your channel is all about I have to say I am very impressed. You manage to deliver extremely interesting, often thought provoking and well researched videos on topics that while coming from music, often transcend this topic and develop into something more. In short: you manage to do interesting videos that seem to be very interesting to both musicians and non-musicians with a little bit of philosophy sprinkled on top. Well done. I am excited for all that your content has to offer.
OH THANK YOU FOR GLORIFYING OUR GLORIOUS SYSTÈME DE NOTATION \o/
I can't even diss your decent pronounciation.
He should speak more german. It's cute :)
the breve was the bravest of all notes
!!!!!!!!
It was once the most brief of all notes.
AqareCover dumbass 😂
Damn, i actually laugh at this
hahahah nice one! Adam, Very accurate and interesting as always. Since I am italian and I also studied Latin: The -e in the end of a word must be pronounced :) It's more or less the sound ae. So Brevae
breve brave ?
When you live in Austria and are just laughing cause you are using the best system for everything.
As a British person (we never call ourselves Brits, by the way), I totally agree with you Adam. In the UK only classical players still learn the old names. As far as I know everyone learning jazz and popular music nowadays learns the American system of rhythmic nomenclature. Also, if you're going to bring up the German's musical system, can we talk about the note H and how they denote sharps and flats?
My daughter is learning piano here in Australia. I'm a Canadian immigrant and much like a lot of other things I grew up using the American system.
Imagine my surprise when I'm helping her practice and she didn't know what I meant when told her she needed to hold the half notes for their full value. I mean, I've mostly gotten used to this country being a decade behind the rest of the English speaking world. But having to translate into minims etc. feels more like being a couple of centuries behind.
I remember my earliest Canadian music texts introducing notation with both American and British nomenclature, but no music teacher of mine ever brought up the British system. That feels typical as a Canadian approach: "Whose system is less dumb in this case--the American, or the British?" :-)
Do her a favor and don't translate into the British system, teach her the U.S. system and tell her teacher to stop spreading this heresy immediately
I'm Australian too, and everyone uses the British names here, all of our method books, teachers, conductors etc. use the British names, meaning unfortunately, students still need to learn them. I generally try to teach both, I'll use the terms interchangeably, but that sometimes gets too confusing for younger students, in which case I'll stick with the British ones to start with (as those are what are in all the method books), and then I find it's quite easy to quickly explain the American names later on, usually around when compound meters start showing up, and at that point I'll explain how the bottom number of the time signature actually does mean something, so 6-8 for example would mean 6 8th notes to a bar, 3-4 is 3 quarter notes to a bar, etc.
I'm Australian and I remember learning music and using the old names as a child. I haven't used those words when I talk about music for a very long time. If someone asked me what the notes were call, I'd say the American words. At some point I must have cross over to the other, possibly from the computer programs I used to write midi songs were American. I have no idea why we still use the British names, the American names are so much easier to remember.
That been said I don't think much of how Americans have changed the spelling of English words for no good reason. Why would you change the spelling of a word like colour just because you pronounce it differently? (I guess that's the reason why?) ... They be crazy.
Not going to happen unfortunately. She's being tested on this stuff and is expected to know her minims and crochets. I'm teaching her the more sensible system; much like the rest of her vocabulary she'll eventually be bi-lingual.
MInd you, I *have* given up on flashlight, sweater, and aluminium without the extra "i'....
Though I've decided that it will be a to-may-toe until I die. You have to have some standards after all.
Hey, Adam. Here's question for the next Q&A.
What is your opinion on what makes music sound ethnic or national? Is that some specific set of scales? Or usage of notes in the scale? Or maybe some certain rhythmic patterns? Personally I'm trying to kind of dissect the "formula" of my national Ukrainian music and what makes it sound "ethnic". And I can't seem to grasp what it actually is. It uses same major/minor scales unlike fancy Hungarian, Japanese, Byznthian, etc. Neither does it use some distinct chord progressions, like flamenco, for instance. And there are no unmistakably distinct rhythms like clave. Though, despite all of that, it still sounds ethnic and national, like its own thing. Like only this music sounds. Maybe that's because of certain timbres of our national instruments? Or, most likely, the language itself? I can't find a better explanation to this rather than timbres and language are most prominent in defining songs' "ethnicity". So, what do you think, what defines the ethnicity of music the most from the standpoint of musical theory?
Cheers and have a great day.
I as a German was confused every time u called this the American system ^^
Adam: hemidemisemiquaver
Me: Ah, now he is just messing with us! *Looks it up*
Me: O_O
Thumbs up for British Adam.
For the first time in my french life, a french system is simple...
(It make me feel... weird.)
See you around the comparison between the « A B C D E F G » system and the « do ré mi fa sol la si » system. ;-)
Greeting from France !
I think this would be an interesting discussion! I’ll start with some questions:
1. Starting with solfège, so you use “fixed Do” or “movable Do.” Secondly, do you use “Do-based minor” or “La-based” minor?
2. If you don’t use chromatic solfège (ie. Do Di Ré Ri Mi Fa etc.), how do you efficiently represent accidentals?
3. Lastly, how do you deal with solfège in a modulation/retonicization, modal, poly-tonal/modal, microtonal, or atonal situation?
My intention is not to criticize, but rather to spark discussion! All the best!
M.R. Devost
I'm not a professional musician and not even a educated amateur. I just know enough stuffs to play bass.
But if if you tell me a bit more about your three questions I would enjoy answer you.
(Of course, I'm not offended : everybody know that metric system is the best. Hopefuly we have our own eccentricity. ;-) )
French musician here,
1. We only learn fixed Do. Do is C and so on. If an american uses Do as the tonic in the key of G for example, a french musician will not understand that you use moveable Do. I studied in the US and was confused at first.
We learn Do-based minor, with 3 flats.
2. We don't use chromatic solfege. Accidentals are called Dièse (#) and Bémol (b) and Bécarre (natural). We have the same rules as everyone else to write them (# for ascending chromaticisms, b for descending, change the note name if you go back and forth etc.). If you have to sing an accidental you just say the syllable. The alteration is implied. Same with key signatures, we don't specify alterations that are in the key signature when we speak or sing, they're implied.
3. For modulation and tonicization we write accidentals from the parent scale of the chord and use the corresponding syllabe.
I can't see why you would use moveable Do for atonal music tbh. For a fixed-Do reader it doesn't matter if the music is tonal or not, you read a pitch and just play it.
In terms of modal music, old french classical teachers refer to modes as their root in the key of C(Do) so Dorian is "mode de Ré", Phrygian is "mode de Mi" etc. No matter what key they're in. So for E Dorian they could say "mode de Ré de Ré majeur" (D mode, of D major) which can be confusing.
Younger teachers use the greek names so E Dorian is Mi Dorien.
The only problem I see with fixed Do is that it makes transposition more difficult for beginners.
I do use moveable Do on instinct when I transcribe, most french musicians do the same because it makes sense unless you have perfect pitch.
Hope that answers your questions
Mostly my answers would be the same as HpPmL, except we have three systems in Estonia.
Do-Re-Mi-Fa-Sol-La-Si-Do
C-D-E-F-G-A-H-C
Jo-Le-Mi-Na-So-Ra-Di-Jo
The first and second can be used interchangeably. They are both fixed. The first is mostly used by classical musicians, and the second by more modern musicians like pop and rock artists. If you attend music school, you will first learn Do-Re-Mi and are introduced C-D-E later on. I learned Do-Re-Mi from my music theory class and in my piano lessons, C-D-E I picked up myself, but It was also mentioned in music theory and my vocal teacher used it, mostly to talk about chords, and chord progressions. When I did my practical exam in singing I had to choose a ticket and it listed the key in both systems
Jo-Le-Mi is a movable system that is taught to children in schools' music classes. But it is also used by professional musicians, especially when talking about transposing music for choral pieces or when they write sheet music for Song celebration where a large portion of children are still in school and have little to no musical education (besides what they're taught in school, which admittedly is still quite a lot)
Your English is great. You speak it better than us Americans.
What do you call a grieve then? A double whole note?
I'm British and I can confirm that this is 110% true. Our system is crap
P. S... Adams Accent is bang on
You're 100% lying about being British if you think that accent was "bang on".
@@default3252 well I'm from the south so I might as well not be British
@@joshichammertv6863 So am I. The accent's obviously not good. Listen to how he says whole
@@default3252Ill be honest I made this comment 3 years ago and was probably sarcastic
This video made me crave pizza... Also I think your British accent is very satisfying. Just a SMALL mistake at the end, the quarter note in French is "noire" and not "noir", because notes are always feminine.
These are the same with what we have in Russia. Never heard about those British crotchets and stuff
They are not really used in the UK much to be fair.
In portuguese the names are like british but that didn't stop me to call them by how many beats they actually notate. I still struggle to remember which one is the "semínima" and which one is the "semicolcheia" despite being able to read music
Hey Adam!
I used to think the same about metric vs. imperial measurements. As a person born and raised in germany, metric is completely logical and rational.
but
I learned about dozenal accounting, later on. now the whole thing looks very different: see, the metric system is based on decimal numbers, meaning base 10. the imperial is actually base 12 or dozenal. it turns out, dozenal is actually the far more useful and natural system. one example is that in decimal, you can count to ten with both hands. in dozenal, however, you can count to a dozen per hand giving you a dozen dozen, or gros, or 144 numbers on both hands. also, the dozen can be divided in 2, 3, 4, 6, 8 and nine rational parts, only missing 5 (which is why 60, or fivedozen, is so useful, see time and circle measurements...) and 7, which is rather unique, anyways.
dozenal numbers are also deeply resonant with the entire experiential geometry and mathematics of Buckminster Fullers Synergetics. if you want to know what that is, check my playlist and video "synergetics in a nutshell".
anyway, thank you for all your amazing videos!
take care
Struppi
Semihemidemisemiquaver. I've never laughed harder before.
Sami Sugiarta or more simply: a 1/128 note
You just add the prefixes in order so semi hemi demi semi quaver is 1/128 and a hemi demi semi hemi demi semi quaver is 1/512
I watched this video just for this moment!
How about the demisemihemidemisemiquaver, or 256th note? I think you'd enjoy Julian Cianciolo's 'How To Read Sheet Music'…it's pretty funny if you're a music nerd
brazil be like semibreve, mínima, seminima, colcheia, semicolcheia, fusa, semifusa
And I think that is horrible. Whole, half and quarter is a much easier system to understand.
sure, but it is only four fkng names and a prefix... it is not quantum physics.
I have a foot in both camps as I studied both classical (English) and jazz (American) harmony. I agree 100 % that the American system is superior. One thing you didn't mention is how using fractions simplifies the understanding of time signatures (beginners often struggle with this). 3 quarter notes in a bar is so much easier to understand than 3 crotchet beats in a bar.
"double-croche"
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