Yet to get my hands on a Sekka but really like them! One useful video I saw was from an older Japanese guy who added wire onto younger cuttings and then twisting the whole cutting vertically to make it so there were potential branches emanating all around the trunk rather than opposing eachother as they grow naturally. Still going to snap one up when I see them though, very rare here in the UK!
I was going to comment the same thing about twisting a spire of Sekka to promote advantageous branching on all four sides as well. Snip the top off and it forces those soon-to-be branches to grow. They're such weird trees, and I love them.
The only time I saw these trees for sale in the UK was in a long since closed bonsai shop in North London. The owner had cute little mame ones for 500 notes! He wouldn't sell me any cuttings he was propagating. Still need one of these.
Eric, thank you for another great video!!! I got a really nice Sekka from Jonas a year ago. It has slowly declined in health turning dark green with minimal growth. I did the first styling with Peter Tea which was mostly removing branches. They are indeed easy to propagate even without a green house or timed sprinklers. I have been wondering if I have been overwatering but it seems Hinoki seem to like a fair amount of water. Jonas suggested repotting which I did. Roots looked fine. I think these trees like more heat than what I have living in a foggy part of SF. I gave my tree to a friend who has a greenhouse in San Jose hoping it may turn around. None on my cuttings have died but none are showing significant growth either. These seem to be more weather specific. Looking forward to any updates from experience. I have a feeling a lot of people have had issues getting Sekka to thrive. Time will tell. Good topic and excellent timing. MH
Hi , i live in Paris whose weather is relatively mild with a balcony that does not have a lot of sun either. But my hinoki sekkas are doing well. Just ensure that the soil is free draining and water them very often. They seem to love water. The only time where one of my sekkas turned a little brown at the tips was during hot weather and the pot drying out. I am sure if i were to put them in the sun all day long with adequate water, they will grow much better.
Eric-be careful putting them in a plastic bag in shade. I did just that in June and they got hit with fungus. So I had to pull them from the bags and clip off the fungal diseased foliage and keep them in the open. Here in the mountains of NC our daily humidity varies from 60-90% and temps are now typically in the low 80s. The Japanese grower on UA-cam Asao Koide told me to just put them out on the bench in full sun and water them with the other trees so I hope we are similar enough to the Tokyo area. I wish I had a greenhouse! PS-How long did it take yours to root?
Agreed. My first cuttings I had in a dome and they got covered in fungus as well. Gotta leave them outside on a bench in shade for the first few months, and then in direct sun until they're rooted. I watch Asao Koide's channel too specifically to learn more about these unique trees. Eric, if you haven't looked at his channel yet, there's some golden information in those videos about Sekka: @chasaokoidesbonsaich3571
Oddly enough I successfully rooted Chinese and slippery elm cuttings using the bag method last year with 100% success and no fungus but not this time with these cuttings. I may have to start dipping cuttings in a weak peroxide solution first. Also last year I used NZ sphagnum but this time went with sifted pumice, don’t know if any of that matters.
@@blueridgebonsai9155 I think sifted pumice was a good choice. Sphagnum moss for tree cuttings likely holds a bit too much moisture which can easily promote fungus. It works great for tropical plants though. I've successfully rooted Sekka in a mixture of mostly hyuga and kiryu with about 25% of the mix being akadama. Other conifers I've rooted with classic bonsai soil like Aoki blend. I think Eric's classic rooting mix of coir and perlite would work great too.
I thought I had my Sekka hinoki that I got from Bjorn figured out. It’s always been in the greenhouse, some areas didn’t seem to like it this year so I figured it needed more sun, I put it out on the bench and it got worse, now it’s back inside in the shaded greenhouse on the ground. In my opinion I think they prefer shade but only time will tell. Not much info out there about them here in the US, glad to see others testing them out, I’m looking forward to updates.
@@bonsaipage_ I grow all my hinokis in part shade here in Asheville, NC and they do well. I also use a very well draining mix (60 pumice & 20 permatil) but with about 20-30% composted bark to help moisture retention and mycorrhizae. I water daily and mist 2-4 times a day depending on conditions. My sekka have grown so well I was able to take about 20 cuttings off 10 trees although I did not cut them back as far as Eric.
What do you think about wiring young sekka trunks like these? I have a few that are in a similar boat, maybe one year behind these, and I know their growth habit is great for formal uprights and the like but I’m curious if many people have tried hinoki trunks with more movement in them
Eric-how is your success rate on rooting the small cuttings vs the thicker woody ones? I have a dozen or so of these that I will be cutting back next summer and am weighing whether to try to root the larger stems or air layer them. Thanks-Larry
I think anything about 1/8" or less rooted. Larger was lower percentages. I'd keep in mind that the initial twisting of the shoot to splay out branching to all sides is an important step - so starting with smaller stock is actually better in the long run.
I’ve been trying to figure out these ones for about three years. I’ve noticed every one I try to wire semi heavy bending, they die back on those bends. So glad to see this Vid to see it’s better to directional prune over wiring is best.
Hi. I am Malaysia. I am a totally beginner, not knowing what to do. I just bought a Sekka Hinoki rooted cutting. It still need many years before I can do anything with it. You video really help me to know more of what to be expected. Thanks a lot. By the way, would you be able to recommend any Bonsai plant that works well in Southeast Asia?
I'm guessing you're talking about the spore bodies coming up. Yeah, we call it "mowing the lawn" when there are too many and we're preparing for a show. You can scissor them off but don't try pulling them because they'll just pull the entire mat of moss up.
I agree! I think it depends on the scale of the tree a bit. I've had moss where the spore bodies were actually tall enough to cover the distance to the bottom of the low branches. It works better with larger trees.
One of my favourite species for Bonsai.
Yet to get my hands on a Sekka but really like them! One useful video I saw was from an older Japanese guy who added wire onto younger cuttings and then twisting the whole cutting vertically to make it so there were potential branches emanating all around the trunk rather than opposing eachother as they grow naturally. Still going to snap one up when I see them though, very rare here in the UK!
I was going to comment the same thing about twisting a spire of Sekka to promote advantageous branching on all four sides as well. Snip the top off and it forces those soon-to-be branches to grow. They're such weird trees, and I love them.
The only time I saw these trees for sale in the UK was in a long since closed bonsai shop in North London. The owner had cute little mame ones for 500 notes! He wouldn't sell me any cuttings he was propagating. Still need one of these.
Excellent suggestion!
@@Bonsaify found the video! This guy knows his Sekka! ua-cam.com/video/IhX88LcyH8c/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/IhX88LcyH8c/v-deo.html
thanks for doing another hinoki video!
Thanks for sharing your experiments with us! Hoping for success 🤞
hinkois be HARD... lil shits like it cold
Eric, thank you for another great video!!!
I got a really nice Sekka from Jonas a year ago. It has slowly declined in health turning dark green with minimal growth. I did the first styling with Peter Tea which was mostly removing branches. They are indeed easy to propagate even without a green house or timed sprinklers. I have been wondering if I have been overwatering but it seems Hinoki seem to like a fair amount of water. Jonas suggested repotting which I did. Roots looked fine. I think these trees like more heat than what I have living in a foggy part of SF. I gave my tree to a friend who has a greenhouse in San Jose hoping it may turn around. None on my cuttings have died but none are showing significant growth either. These seem to be more weather specific. Looking forward to any updates from experience. I have a feeling a lot of people have had issues getting Sekka to thrive. Time will tell. Good topic and excellent timing.
MH
Hi , i live in Paris whose weather is relatively mild with a balcony that does not have a lot of sun either. But my hinoki sekkas are doing well. Just ensure that the soil is free draining and water them very often. They seem to love water. The only time where one of my sekkas turned a little brown at the tips was during hot weather and the pot drying out. I am sure if i were to put them in the sun all day long with adequate water, they will grow much better.
love the sekkas. I have tried taking cuttings in plastic bags with great success. They tend to grow fast but the trunk seems hard to thicken.
Eric-be careful putting them in a plastic bag in shade. I did just that in June and they got hit with fungus. So I had to pull them from the bags and clip off the fungal diseased foliage and keep them in the open. Here in the mountains of NC our daily humidity varies from 60-90% and temps are now typically in the low 80s. The Japanese grower on UA-cam Asao Koide told me to just put them out on the bench in full sun and water them with the other trees so I hope we are similar enough to the Tokyo area. I wish I had a greenhouse!
PS-How long did it take yours to root?
Agreed. My first cuttings I had in a dome and they got covered in fungus as well. Gotta leave them outside on a bench in shade for the first few months, and then in direct sun until they're rooted. I watch Asao Koide's channel too specifically to learn more about these unique trees. Eric, if you haven't looked at his channel yet, there's some golden information in those videos about Sekka: @chasaokoidesbonsaich3571
Oddly enough I successfully rooted Chinese and slippery elm cuttings using the bag method last year with 100% success and no fungus but not this time with these cuttings. I may have to start dipping cuttings in a weak peroxide solution first. Also last year I used NZ sphagnum but this time went with sifted pumice, don’t know if any of that matters.
@@blueridgebonsai9155 I think sifted pumice was a good choice. Sphagnum moss for tree cuttings likely holds a bit too much moisture which can easily promote fungus. It works great for tropical plants though. I've successfully rooted Sekka in a mixture of mostly hyuga and kiryu with about 25% of the mix being akadama. Other conifers I've rooted with classic bonsai soil like Aoki blend. I think Eric's classic rooting mix of coir and perlite would work great too.
I thought I had my Sekka hinoki that I got from Bjorn figured out. It’s always been in the greenhouse, some areas didn’t seem to like it this year so I figured it needed more sun, I put it out on the bench and it got worse, now it’s back inside in the shaded greenhouse on the ground. In my opinion I think they prefer shade but only time will tell. Not much info out there about them here in the US, glad to see others testing them out, I’m looking forward to updates.
@@bonsaipage_ I grow all my hinokis in part shade here in Asheville, NC and they do well. I also use a very well draining mix (60 pumice & 20 permatil) but with about 20-30% composted bark to help moisture retention and mycorrhizae. I water daily and mist 2-4 times a day depending on conditions. My sekka have grown so well I was able to take about 20 cuttings off 10 trees although I did not cut them back as far as Eric.
What do you think about wiring young sekka trunks like these? I have a few that are in a similar boat, maybe one year behind these, and I know their growth habit is great for formal uprights and the like but I’m curious if many people have tried hinoki trunks with more movement in them
Bjorn has a video on wiring one. I think they're a fine species to do in other styles. @bonsaiq has a few videos on forests etc.
Nice video nice shape tree s thanks Eric keep up the good work mate thanks
Another great video! I have a few I will be doing in the spring. Very difficult tree to sort out for me...
I'm starting to think they're very susceptible to phomopsis and phytophthora....which makes them hard to grow in many areas.
Eric-how is your success rate on rooting the small cuttings vs the thicker woody ones? I have a dozen or so of these that I will be cutting back next summer and am weighing whether to try to root the larger stems or air layer them. Thanks-Larry
I think anything about 1/8" or less rooted. Larger was lower percentages. I'd keep in mind that the initial twisting of the shoot to splay out branching to all sides is an important step - so starting with smaller stock is actually better in the long run.
I’ve been trying to figure out these ones for about three years. I’ve noticed every one I try to wire semi heavy bending, they die back on those bends. So glad to see this Vid to see it’s better to directional prune over wiring is best.
I want to ask Bjorn if the one he wired lived.
heard your suppose to let cutting wounds callous over for 3/4 days before rooting ?
Hi. I am Malaysia. I am a totally beginner, not knowing what to do. I just bought a Sekka Hinoki rooted cutting. It still need many years before I can do anything with it. You video really help me to know more of what to be expected. Thanks a lot. By the way, would you be able to recommend any Bonsai plant that works well in Southeast Asia?
I would think you should concentrate on tropicals - and there are some fantastic ones out there.
Question about repotting these guys. I grabbed one from you guys before, do we bare root them or do half and half?
I'd do a 1/2 and 1/2 just to be sure. I've seen them do pretty much a bare-root on one of the Japanese channels....but it makes me nervous.
@@Bonsaify I hear you. Thank you!
Did the cuttings rooted for you?
Just looked at them the other day and yes, they rooted. I've found these pretty easy to root.
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Can hinoki cypruss be air layered, chamaecyparis obtusa
For sure. Check the Bonsai Q channel for more on Sekka layering, but it's pretty commonly done.
@@Bonsaify thank you
Are sekka/chirimen hinoki the same?
It appears they are, but I couldn't say for sure.
Long time no see Eric, in a way these specimens could be called incredible Hunk bonsai?
🤔 ... I don't get it.
@@Bonsaify Just in their shapes? Maybe??
Is that "grass" part of the moss?
I'm guessing you're talking about the spore bodies coming up. Yeah, we call it "mowing the lawn" when there are too many and we're preparing for a show. You can scissor them off but don't try pulling them because they'll just pull the entire mat of moss up.
@@Bonsaify Interesting! I thought it would look really cool under a coast live oak or some other CA oak tree, like the natural grass of CA.
I agree! I think it depends on the scale of the tree a bit. I've had moss where the spore bodies were actually tall enough to cover the distance to the bottom of the low branches. It works better with larger trees.
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