Is the Hyundai Kona EV Better Than the Nissan Leaf And a Trip the the Middle of Wales, well almost.

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  • @michaelgoode9555
    @michaelgoode9555 2 місяці тому +5

    If the MacNutter had done this he would have set off with less than 10% in the battery and failed to reach the charger.
    Alternatively, he would have reached the charger but parked so badly that the cable wouldn't reach the charge port.
    Or, he would have reached the charger, just but then found that he couldn't pay for electricity as he'd left his wallet at home so couldn't buy fuel.
    Or some other completely contrived and ridiculous fail.
    Lovely scenery. I have mostly visited north Wales but you have whetted my appetite for a bit of a south Wales EV adventure.

    • @grouchthatbarx
      @grouchthatbarx  2 місяці тому

      @@michaelgoode9555 that's sound like a correct assessment of his shenanigans 👍

    • @Brian-om2hh
      @Brian-om2hh 2 місяці тому +1

      He once parked at Tebay services, and his video showed several of the chargers in the background not being used. He then said (on the video) that he would go and get some breakfast first, and charge up later. It was later pointed out to him that he could have put the car on charge *BEFORE* he went for breakfast. He didn't reply to the comment.....

  • @arekfpv3631
    @arekfpv3631 2 місяці тому +10

    Ther is a new software and a map update released just a month ago. You can get it from the Hyundai webside and upload it to your usb dongle and install in the car. It's very simple. The installation can take around 20 minutes.

    • @grouchthatbarx
      @grouchthatbarx  2 місяці тому

      Awesome, will take a look 👍👍

    • @barryrathbone
      @barryrathbone 2 місяці тому +1

      The update is easy I could do it!

    • @gbatty4691
      @gbatty4691 2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks I’ll take a look at that 👍 I turned on utility mode to upload to the car so that the car wouldn’t shut off during upload, was I being over cautious or is that the right way to do it?

    • @arekfpv3631
      @arekfpv3631 2 місяці тому

      @@gbatty4691 it's anough if the car is fully turned on( ready to drive state) so the HV battery is in operation to not drain the 12v battery.

    • @richardhaywoodh
      @richardhaywoodh 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@gbatty4691there is an option fir the car to do the update from the USB stick 'when vehicle turned off' so you just turn the car off and lock it up and hopefully come back an hour or later and it's completed...

  • @edenviews
    @edenviews 2 місяці тому +4

    Enjoyable little trip and entertained by your interesting commentary. The car you fixed is really excellent. Great range on those and look really modern, unlike how I feel about the Leafs. You did yourself proud. More of these trips please😁😁😁😎

  • @PaulCunningham-sf5pu
    @PaulCunningham-sf5pu 2 місяці тому +1

    Perfect view keep it there mate

  • @gbatty4691
    @gbatty4691 2 місяці тому +3

    Glad your happy you kept the Kona, and it’s driving well, I have to keep reminding myself how much quieter my Kona is from my last car even though that was the quietest car I’d ever owned, still wishing I could afford an EV6 though 😊

    • @grouchthatbarx
      @grouchthatbarx  2 місяці тому

      @@gbatty4691 👍👍

    • @richardhaywoodh
      @richardhaywoodh 2 місяці тому +2

      When we looked at the EV6 it was way too big for our needs, difficult to park in supermarket spaces and the black headlining and high waist line made the back seats feel very claustrophobic

    • @gbatty4691
      @gbatty4691 2 місяці тому

      @@richardhaywoodh thanks for the info, maybe the new EV3 will be more appropriate, I’m gonna have a test drive when there’s one available 👍

  • @Brian-om2hh
    @Brian-om2hh 2 місяці тому +3

    Grouch, the latest pearl of wisdom from the Daily Telegraph (on MSN) states that it would typically cost £148 to travel from London to Penzance in an EV at 3.3 miles per kw, but a lot less in a diesel car, using £89 worth of petrol (yes, that's genuinely what they printed ). The Daily Telegraph completely misses the fact that the EV owner would cover the first part of the journey using the charge they got at home, prior to beginning the trip at probably less than 3p per mile.....or the fact that once the trip was over, the EV owner would then probably revert to charging at home most of the time, at *considerably* less cost than buying petrol. ICE drivers don't have a "top up at home for a 6th of the cost" option.....

    • @grouchthatbarx
      @grouchthatbarx  2 місяці тому

      @@Brian-om2hh The daily fail strikes again 👍

  • @Jaw0lf
    @Jaw0lf 2 місяці тому +2

    Nice one Grouch. My previous EV an E Niro was also relatively loud on the road but a great car 270 in summer and 220 in winter.

  • @bernardcharlesworth9860
    @bernardcharlesworth9860 2 місяці тому +4

    The 470 to Merthyr is lovely even in winter

  • @PaulCunningham-sf5pu
    @PaulCunningham-sf5pu 2 місяці тому +1

    I love the Nissan leaf and the black thing is your rain sensor for the wipers and light sensor as well

  • @garage6346
    @garage6346 2 місяці тому +1

    The user experience of these Swarco chargers is improvable to say the least.

  • @stevewest131
    @stevewest131 2 місяці тому +2

    Top waffling Grouch!

  • @decimal1815
    @decimal1815 2 місяці тому +4

    Nice to see a bit of Wales. Not many EV videos that tour Wales.

  • @jeffg9706
    @jeffg9706 2 місяці тому +2

    My Leaf is the 2022 62kWh e+N connecta version and I don't know if it makes a difference but it doesn't wallow as you described yours did,
    Glad you're happy with the Cona and hope it goes well for you, but I prefer the quiet and the look of the Leaf, The sat navigation system on the Leaf is still dated though.

    • @grouchthatbarx
      @grouchthatbarx  2 місяці тому

      I didn't think the leaf wallowed that much, it was just in comparison to the Kona. Just because I prefer the Kona doesn't mean I didn't like the leaf and I still think the leaf is a great car 👍

  • @brianc5788
    @brianc5788 2 місяці тому +1

    Lived in Brynmawr, worked in Ebbwvale blast furnaces! Many years ago👍👍😂😂 I have been driving a Kona EV for 3 years!! The latest update was in August.

  • @richardhaywoodh
    @richardhaywoodh 2 місяці тому +1

    We have the 2021 facelift 39kWh KONA which come with the lattest Michelin Primacy 4s actually increased the WLTP figures, we would not say it was noisy about same as our KIA E-niro

  • @stever656
    @stever656 2 місяці тому +2

    I have same 70 plate Kona in Orange great car done 50,000 miles in it no problem on long drives bit of a slow charge by nowdays standard but the range means it charges when you stop. It goes back next month as we only need one car and i bought Tesla M3 and that is a lot quieter but i found my Kona pretty good for noise but i come from a petrol car so that was noisy

  • @maesygwartha
    @maesygwartha 2 місяці тому

    You passed us at around 10.39 just before you came off the A465 in Gilwern. I will look out for you in future 👍. Keep up the good work. You are always welcome to drop in for a charge.

  • @pdecaux
    @pdecaux 2 місяці тому +1

    FitCamX sell a dashcam that replaces the rear view mirror housing

    • @grouchthatbarx
      @grouchthatbarx  2 місяці тому

      @@pdecaux I had one sent to me to review but it only fits left hand drive models. They said they don't do a right hand drive version.

    • @pdecaux
      @pdecaux 2 місяці тому

      @grouchthatbarx , that's frustrating. I have fitted on to my RH drive EX30 so maybe they have updated their range?

    • @pdecaux
      @pdecaux 2 місяці тому +1

      You are right, they still only do LH version for your model year.

    • @grouchthatbarx
      @grouchthatbarx  2 місяці тому

      @@pdecaux 👍👍

  • @bernardcharlesworth9860
    @bernardcharlesworth9860 2 місяці тому +1

    Nice village shame you didn't get to the bridge in telgarth. It has a flour mill and cafe

    • @grouchthatbarx
      @grouchthatbarx  2 місяці тому

      @@bernardcharlesworth9860 I should have explored more 👍

  • @AndrewKNI
    @AndrewKNI 2 місяці тому +1

    I drive a 2018 Tucson and I'm sure that there is more road/tyre noise than in my previous VW's. I even put new tyres on it and it only made a small improvement. Think that's just the way they are.

  • @oliver90owner
    @oliver90owner 2 місяці тому +1

    Grouch, did you check the tracking? It might be off a bit after the shunt and making more noise. I always check how the ‘nibs’ on the tyre treads wear after a (very) few miles after fitting.
    Front tyres perhaps more noisy? I was happy enough when I had a drive in a Kona - less than an hour - and am quite happy with the noise in my I-5 - even though there is a motor at both ends.

    • @grouchthatbarx
      @grouchthatbarx  2 місяці тому

      I can usually feel when the tracking is off and this one feels bob on 👍

  • @decimal1815
    @decimal1815 2 місяці тому +1

    How does the adaptive cruise control compare on both cars? I'm using the Pro Pilot cruise control on the LEAF on every long journey now. Really takes the work out of driving..

    • @grouchthatbarx
      @grouchthatbarx  2 місяці тому +1

      I haven't tried it yet as the radar needs an alignment.

  • @peterball8241
    @peterball8241 2 місяці тому +1

    I've just had a few days in New Quay with my MG5. didn't use any rapid chargers, just 7kW fast chargers at Machynlleth (fish and chips), Aberystwyth (ride on the Vale of Rheidol Railway) and New Quay (pub grub).

    • @grouchthatbarx
      @grouchthatbarx  2 місяці тому

      @@peterball8241 👍👍

    • @markbennett6658
      @markbennett6658 2 місяці тому +1

      There are fast chargers 50kw in Machynlleth (in car park off Heol Maengwyn) and Aberystwyth (National Library). They also have them in Newtown and Welshpool . They’ve recently put 7kw on the sea front at Aberdyfi and have both sorts at Barmouth, although they weren’t commissioned last time I looked!

    • @peterball8241
      @peterball8241 2 місяці тому

      @@markbennett6658 I couldn't get the Rapids to work at Machynlleth but was at 75% so just had a top up on the 7kW. The Rapids at Aberystwyth were my backup plan, but I was there long enough to get to 100% on the 7kW.

    • @grouchthatbarx
      @grouchthatbarx  2 місяці тому

      @@markbennett6658 👍👍

  • @decimal1815
    @decimal1815 2 місяці тому +1

    What are the cameras like on the Kona? 360 camera is useful on the LEAF for parking into a tight space.

    • @grouchthatbarx
      @grouchthatbarx  2 місяці тому

      It only has a rear camera on my kona.

    • @Rexbilly9819
      @Rexbilly9819 2 місяці тому +1

      Only has the rear camera with guidance lines and positioning lines when you turn the steering wheel. Has front and rear parking sensors and a rear wash wipe, but no 360 degree camera or self park though.

  • @bordersw1239
    @bordersw1239 2 місяці тому +1

    There’s a great public toilet opposite the tourist info office in Talgarth, lovely little town - very friendly locals. 😂

    • @grouchthatbarx
      @grouchthatbarx  2 місяці тому +1

      It's always good to know where the toilets are 😁👍👍

  • @Lewis_Standing
    @Lewis_Standing 2 місяці тому +1

    Yeah ive got a 2020 Kona which does have a lot of road noise to be fair

  • @rodden1953
    @rodden1953 2 місяці тому +1

    ive had 2 in 5 yrs and i agree that the Nav and noise are bad But the range is fantastic and the GOM is really accurate. im happy with it , What settings did you have the regen on ? i keep mine on high all the time and in Eco . nice video.

    • @grouchthatbarx
      @grouchthatbarx  2 місяці тому +1

      I have it on full regen most of the time but do take it off in certain circumstances, oh and I drive in normal mode. 👍 And the GOM was extremely accurate.

    • @rodden1953
      @rodden1953 2 місяці тому +1

      @@grouchthatbarx i think you should keep it for a while. nice cars

    • @grouchthatbarx
      @grouchthatbarx  2 місяці тому

      @@rodden1953 👍

  • @barryrathbone
    @barryrathbone 2 місяці тому +1

    I live in Liverpool and have more chargers than you could ever need however my family is in Tywyn and charging is dire. I always do a mid way wee at Rhug farm InstaVolt! I’m sorry but as a 61 year old I definitely get bladder anxiety!

  • @brianevans8127
    @brianevans8127 2 місяці тому +2

    The range of the car is less important than the range of the driver. Pick your rest point as your charge point and relax. Cheers But and keep waffling.😊

    • @alistairlambert3275
      @alistairlambert3275 2 місяці тому +1

      I can’t get enough of this friendly Welsh Windbag.

    • @grouchthatbarx
      @grouchthatbarx  2 місяці тому

      😀👍👍

    • @grouchthatbarx
      @grouchthatbarx  2 місяці тому

      👍👍

    • @oliver90owner
      @oliver90owner 2 місяці тому

      Brian, agreed about the driver range, but always better to be able to cover the whole round trip without needing to charge at an expensive public charger. Charging at home is even better/cheaper than the best (Tesla) rates, if possible - no waiting involved.

  • @caterthun4853
    @caterthun4853 2 місяці тому +1

    Anglesey..charging availability is dismal. Some local council chargers have been broken for months..

    • @grouchthatbarx
      @grouchthatbarx  2 місяці тому

      @@caterthun4853 Councils aren't the best at maintaining chargers.

  • @jolive3743
    @jolive3743 2 місяці тому +1

    hello bud. Been looking at the Kona (even on Copart (although i'm a bit scared to do what you did) but i have a favour to ask.
    I wanna use it for bike touring overnighters and i wonder if it's big enough to sleep in with the seats down in the back?
    P.s. i'm 5'8

    • @jolive3743
      @jolive3743 2 місяці тому +1

      p.p.s. top wafflin'

    • @grouchthatbarx
      @grouchthatbarx  2 місяці тому +1

      @@jolive3743 I will have to measure it tomorrow and get back to.

    • @jolive3743
      @jolive3743 2 місяці тому

      @@grouchthatbarx perfect, thanks mate

    • @jolive3743
      @jolive3743 2 місяці тому

      @@grouchthatbarx hello!!! Any measurements?

    • @grouchthatbarx
      @grouchthatbarx  2 місяці тому

      @@jolive3743 I forgot... I will do it for you now

  • @MrSammotube
    @MrSammotube 2 місяці тому +1

    Just got the new Kona Electric a few days ago - seems very quiet to me (I knew this as obviously tested it before buying). It is not really comparable to the old one as it is an EV chassis now instead of petrol-first.

  • @oliver90owner
    @oliver90owner 2 місяці тому

    I’m at 41 seconds. Before I even watch the rest, it MUST be the Kona!

  • @gerhardk98
    @gerhardk98 2 місяці тому

    The GPS is probably accurate just the initial distance estimate the car makes is how the crow flies but once it uses roads to calculate distance it will naturally increase.

    • @grouchthatbarx
      @grouchthatbarx  2 місяці тому

      I usually use Google maps which never does that. 👍👍

  • @oliver90owner
    @oliver90owner 2 місяці тому

    You, no doubt, now realise the inital distance on the sat nav is “as the crow flies”.🙂

    • @grouchthatbarx
      @grouchthatbarx  2 місяці тому

      Sat Nav should know I'm not a crow 😁👍👍

    • @oliver90owner
      @oliver90owner 2 місяці тому

      @@grouchthatbarx It is exactly the same on Google maps. Initial distance shown is a direct line between the start and finish points - but when the routes are requested thy are shown as real travelled distances.🙂🙂
      I actually am not a fan of the Hyundai navigation. It seems to occasionally defy logic.

  • @FoxInClogs
    @FoxInClogs 2 місяці тому +1

    Not quite the middle of nowhere. The outskirts of nowhere, maybe?

    • @grouchthatbarx
      @grouchthatbarx  2 місяці тому

      @@FoxInClogs Mid Wales is so different to South Wales that it seems like the middle of nowhere to me 😀

  • @rp9674
    @rp9674 2 місяці тому +3

    Sounds like more of a joke than a question, but if Leif gets you to the same places and saves you a lot of money, there's an argument to be made for that

    • @grouchthatbarx
      @grouchthatbarx  2 місяці тому +1

      👍👍

    • @rp9674
      @rp9674 2 місяці тому +2

      I once beat a Tesla S plaid in my Fiat 500e in heavy Los Angeles traffic

    • @oliver90owner
      @oliver90owner 2 місяці тому +2

      @@rp9674 A pushbike can easily beat all the 4 wheeled traffic in the London rush hour.🙂🙂

    • @rp9674
      @rp9674 2 місяці тому

      ​@@oliver90ownerI guess it's more fun when you're on vacation

    • @rp9674
      @rp9674 2 місяці тому

      ​@@oliver90owner...holiday