Multiplayer Online Gooning Session, it's when you're on a Discord call with your buds, porn on one screen, video game on the other, listening to NL in the background, doomscrolling through your social media of choice on your phone, head empty, full goon. @@t.h.4170
I love that the conversation is happening during rapid fire also because that's the perfect parallelism for "oh you didn't have everything go perfectly as you planned well you might as well just give up".
Eh I always see this quote but if you worked minimum wage in the 70s you wouldnt be able to buy a house that easily, or else apartments wouldn't have existed then lol. Maybe college debt was a lot less and maybe it was better for the middle class, but it definitely wasn't better for everybody.
@@lukieq12 shitty people have to get lucky to find someone who will live with the abuse they refuse to acknowledge. Many, many people are just fucking horrible in a relationship and see their partner as a means to an end. When people complain about dating being terrible you have to understand that they are the only common factor in their dating life.
in addition, a lot of factory work is physically rough on your body, and now that pretty much every government has said “lol we’re not doing shit to protect you from an illness where you roll the dice on becoming long-term disabled every time you get it”… it’s rough out there lmao
@@Sam-pr6oe Literally had that conversation with my dad when I got my first job at 16. I was doing odd jobs in a small factory and getting like £10/hour for it. He told me how that would have covered all his living expenses in the late 70s/early 80s, but for me it was barely making a difference. No one wants to pay you any real wages anymore, but everyone wants you to pay out big for the most basic crap. System's screwed
i was making airplane parts at the same rate, i got some small raises but still thats terrible starting pay for doing that sort of thing (and theres no way youre buying a house)
@@86pp73 the system is literally designed to pay you as little as possible while charging you as much as possible. It's just how supply and demand works. But people don't negotiate, and are willing to work for minimal, so companies get to decide everything.
35, jobless, car was repossessed a little while back, left a shit factory job (it was Union, so it had that going for it I guess) and trying to get into programming. Been a hobbyist programmer for 20 years, but of course the tech jobs had to take a shit right when I decided to try to get in... Yeah my gf and I are barely staying afloat right now. If we had to support a child, we would be homeless.
I've been married once, lived on my own for a decade, and then got into another very serious relationship. Changing habits was very very difficult at that point, to the point that we broke off our engagement. TLDR I'm getting the gun
@@strangeshotgun A broad, sweeping horizontal gesture from my left to my right with my right arm while my hand shakes around with no discernible control, then stops, and does a more focused, forceful large swipe the other way
noooo but i was taught that history is a result of a series of great men nooo copium and they did great things noooo it can't be because of the cultural and material conditions at the time nooooo im not sure where this joke is going but if anyone wants to workshop it-its all yours
I feel like an underrated aspect of this argument is that bc medical tech has advanced so substantially and people are living much longer (close to 10 years longer than Americans did in the 60's and 70's), the typical generational transfer of wealth that happens when parents die and pass assets onto their children is taking much longer to kick in for millenials and Gen Z than any previous generation
The wealth of the parents isnt even going to their own children in most cases. They are blowing it on cruises or live pension payout to pension payout. Theor ntire mindset is "I bothered with you as a child, now you can do it all yourself (in the society left)."
Bruh what generational transfer of wealth? Old people get scammed out of their money by the system/get bled dry by the medical industry trying to stay alive
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I can tell you, the thing that's wrong with *me* is I spent my entire life in various states of having no damn time to dedicate towards a relationship. Never had puppy love, 18 hour or more days on that college grind from jr year of highschool all the way to a Master's degree in a total of 7 years. Then immediately getting into throwing 10 hours of the 5 days away towards actually working to return money on the degrees. I mean time just gets *eaten* up by _existing._ 1.5 hour prep for work, 1 hour gone from driving, 9 total hours actually _at_ work (male dominated field, no ladies present for even the possibilty of a connection, also a problem during college days), 1 hr to make dinner, 1 hr to eat dinner, 0.5 hr to clean kitchen and prep tomorrow's lunch, 0.5 hr bedtime prep, 1 hr pondering thine orb, and 7 hours sleep. Unless you neglect health or the job with which the money assures the ability to have good health, all which remains is 2.5 hours on a daily basis of free time. The weekend is usually filled with the stuff you neglect to do during the week like grocery shop and house maintenance. To get to the stage in a relationship where some of those daily chores become a shared time activity, it's going to take absolutely ages to find someone of interest in the first place, since you have to cash in those 2.5 hours *not* being in your house, and then even longer to determine if you _actually_ like them. Why get a partner if you don't have the time to cherrish them?
Aim lower to travel more distance, aim higher and you'll get pretty high up and fall far. Literally why even pursue such a lifestyle if you feel this incensed by how it affects you
@@baconman9418 Well, to clarify, I'm not bitter about my circumstances or decisions at all. I would quite literally not have it any other way except biologically not needing to sleep, which would be pretty sick. My comment was just answering the question the video asks about "how do you get to be an adult without having any significant relationship" by talking about how different priorities eat away your time. I prioritize stability in my life, money is stability, and tacking on _anyone_ onto your life is inherently introducing chaos since they have their own agency and there *will* be conflicting priorites between you which steers you in unexpected directions sometimes.
Am not saying he or any of his friends is wrong, but each person take on it is biased to how they approach it and NL is just talking about what he values as a person and that effects how he think about it same with kory. It's just talking about dating based on their own values as a person and there's nothing wrong with that. Am just saying it will be different for different people
Some of us just don't have 'sharing my life' as a top priority. Intertwining yourself deeply with another human isn't a universal goal, and, contrary to popular belief, not a prerequisite for regular satisfying sax.
my antinatalist friends say it's the worst time to have kids to the point that it's unethical. My response is with that logic there was no time time in the entirety of human history that was "good to have kids" except for maybe the 50s
That's not really a rebuttal of antinatalism, though. As many antinatalists will point out, there has never been a good time to have kids. It has always been a bad time for doing that.
@@cabellocorto5586 Yeah, it's always unethical because you can't gain consent from the unborn and it's a statistical certainty that some significant percentage will wish they had never been born. The world regularly catching on fire these days certainly helps fuel the conversation though. All I'd say is that if you want to have kids then just adopt. There are a lot of people already on this planet that are suffering and could use a great home, you don't need to drag more people into the world to start a family.
Antinatalism is pathetic. It's a bunch of people who have given up on trying to figure out how to find value in being alive in difficult times, even though countless people have done the same, and then project that feeling of hopelessness onto everyone alive. It's another form of blackpill doomerism. I'm a zoomer who is alive today and I feel just fine about it. Maybe instead of preaching the virtues of human extinction you should start brushing up on radical philosophy and start figuring out how to love yourself for once?
I know I'm gonna get hate for suggesting it, but how many undesirable men today would have had no problem getting married in the past just because women couldn't really afford to be picky and were socially pressured into thinking that they were "running out of time" before they even hit 30
Nah that was absolutely the case, still dealing w the effects today. The only hate I could see anyone getting is suggesting anything about that situation was desirable, in which case the hate would be justified Lotta dudes would rather go back to an era where they didn’t have to try, blaming women for “raising their standards” rather than looking inward and ACTUALLY maturing as humans like they’ve been forcing women to for generations.
@@IanZWhite00that's probably just me being a very spiteful person, but when I see boomers complaining about younger generations and this issue I always think you know maybe the fact that there are way less marriages also means there are way less *loveless* marriages.
@@IanZWhite00 The genie is out of the bottle on that one, but I'd wager that on the whole more people were happier in that arrangement (including women) than they are today. They never "forced" women in the recent past to get married, it was just social pressure/expectation. And the pressure was equally applied to men. Marriage benefited women more than it did men. People are generally better off living as a couple than they are living alone for their whole life like many are today. If it wasn't for unprecedented levels of immigration society would have already collapsed.
And vice versa. It is hard to settle for someone when you have an entire globe full of people to choose from. Sure, the world allegedly also existed in the past, but today with social media being so omnipresent it actually seems realistic that there's someone who is literally perfect for you, so why be okay with going out with that mediocre colleague who doesn't share your love of Kurosawa movies and Genshin Impact? Much better to forever fantasise about the life you could have, and the Internet is right there to let you keep dreaming.
Robots replacing 99% of the workforce is factually inevitable. It seems very likely to happen in the next 40-50 years, which would mean either: a.) we live in a utopian society where nobody has to work, therefore savings are meaningless b.) we live in a dystopian society where everyone but the 1% is out of work and lives in slums/dies from poverty, which would make a meager retirement savings meaningless So yeah i kinda don't see the point in saving for retirement
I understand the thought process, but it isn't good financial literacy. The only purpose of saving should be for an emergency fund or upcoming purchase. You don't save for retirement, you invest for retirement. Owning a stake in Walmart and Amazon will be worth a lot when those corporations rule the world. Also, robots will never replace 99% of the workforce. Not in any living person's lifetime at least. People may work less or change the type of work they do, but we are unimaginably far away from robots doing everything. Even many of the jobs most "at risk" of being phased out still probably have a good 10-20 years left. And some of them will exist even after that in a slightly different form.
@@koolaidjerkOwning a stake in the big corporations in the future will be worth nothing because if you actually try to withdraw your stocks they'll have figured out a way to say "Nah, that's ours now, bye bye buddy".
@@jamesmccomb9525 In this scenario, you're the "they". When you buy company stock you're buying partial ownership of the company. If you bought all of a company's stock you would be the sole owner of the company. Owning stocks lets you literally vote on company decisions and direction, and gives you rights over their assets and profits. You can't "withdraw" stocks, you can only sell them to someone else. They have no real value outside the company's assets and profit, or what other people will pay for them. Other people have no authority to seize your shares, and the more shares you have the bigger say you have with what the company does.
@@koolaidjerk Other people won't have the legal authority, no, but that won't matter. People with enough established wealth will just be able to muscle you out of it through violence and intimidation.
tbf, theres also a weird world where people don't want to lose their jobs, but also cant imagine a society where someone can survive without working, so they make a push to outlaw automation idk if its very likely to happen, since corporations have a lot of influence on the government (well, in the US, at least), so they'd almost certainly try to block it but at the same time, if people pushed hard enough for it, i could imagine a certain type of populist politician backing it so they could point to it and act like they made things better for the working class (while proceeding to take bribes and make things worse in other ways) thinking about it more, it even has a bonus over the dystopia (like, a bonus for the rich people), in that it prevents the working class from realizing that the system is completely rigged and trying to tear it down i really hope it doesn't happen, but thinking about it more it seems... disturbingly possible, seeing as so much of society just cares about The Status Quo™
I feel like NL is missing the forest for the trees, considering the onset of an ecological apocalypse and everything. Though, I guess if I had a baby daughter, I’d probably also have cognitive dissonance about that to protect my own sanity.
I think it is distinctly a thing for parents to just block climate apocalypse out of their mind. My friends with kids be like "we'll be fine, technology'll work it out" all the time.
chat treats NL like their one married with kids friend, and it gives NL a false sense of expertise regarding marriage and kids given his platform. by and large, im not a hater, but when he gets on marriage or kids it gets old
Elder zoomer (22) here, just got married, she's great. We have been together 3 years and have already have had enough bad fights to know we love each other and will work through anything. She's great and I want to give her the world
For the people who don't get it 🤓: NL inferred (has no personal experience) the unique challenges of living single for a long time and then dating. He didn't say you aren't worthy of love ❤️ ♥️ 💕 💗
Having children with knowledge that the next 100 years of our species will be wrought with economic, social, and climatological challenges (most of which we have done little to nothing to resolve) is selfish and wrong. I’m not saying that the folks who have children are bad people; i’m saying I personally would feel bad bringing a child into a lifetime that will be worse off than the one I had. Adopting children, however, is a moral and altruistic way to fulfill the desire to have descendants while still staying within your own personal limits. Live in your own boundaries. Think of the future. It takes a village to raise a child; not all of those villagers need children of their own.
I, for one, don't have kids because I'm lazy. I don't need to virtual signal a reason and claim other people's decision to have kids is selfish and wrong.
"Really in 17 years nobody said 'I'm gonna lock that down'? What's wrong with you? I don't mean 'WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU' I mean 'What's *wrong* with *you*" Trauma, NL. I was abused and it lead me to isolate myself for decades. I didn't luck out getting to play video games for a living. But it's okay, because it is morally wrong to have children and I will never have any so I know that I am objectively morally superior to the egg.
With comments like this, brother the abuse never stopped for you. Feels to me like you're torturing yourself anymore. This seethes vitriol for literally no reason. You will *never* be morally superior to someone if you continue to spite strangers merely for the fact they're happy. It's petty, pitiful behavior.
@@Providence83 i mean . yeah no fucking shit, when youve been abused your brain tortures you, thats what abuse fucking does to you but thats not even relevant, since saying its morally wrong to have kids isnt "spiting strangers for being happy", its seeing how easy it is to fucking ruin another human's life, and saying "yeah no, i am NOT risking that" [and honestly, focusing on the parents being happy and ignoring how the kid feels is literally *part of the problem*] personally, i dont think its inherently morally wrong to have kids, but youd have to be *extremely* careful about it, and if someone does it without even considering the risk of trauma and how bad that is, then its definitely wrong ...but also, what they said might've been tongue-in-cheek anyway lmao
@@Providence83 Seething with vitriol not for no reason. Did you watch the clip? NL "jokes" (i.e reveals his true stance and criticizes but masks it with humor) that people who haven't had any relationships are "chaff" and are defective in some way. I'm not spiting NL because he's happy, I'm spiting him because *he* is being very petty here.
@@cabellocorto5586 The chaff thing is more of a metaphor for the baggage of which you speak, which can be a dealbreaker for a lot of people looking for a lifelong partner.
@@Providence83Calling people petty on the internet doesn't make you the reasonable third party you're just the vanguard of the status quo, go read more Jordan Peterson books
My man made me feel like a 1/1 Goblin Token.
Lmaoooo I'm definitely picking that up
Amazing comment
+1/1
I'm the phases of the turn tip card 🤗
I feel like pot of generosity.
thank god i knew im unworthy of love before NL said it to me whew
You can't hurt me if I don't feel anything
@@SuperSymn Sadge
Can we talk about how NL’s default for couples disagreements is always the way Kate loads the dishwasher
chad millionaire streamer MOGS audience of bored college students remote workers and dropouts
What is MOGS?
@@t.h.4170 its like when you insult a homeless person on the street and throw pocket change at them
@@KissMyCorpse lmao +2
Multiplayer Online Gooning Session, it's when you're on a Discord call with your buds, porn on one screen, video game on the other, listening to NL in the background, doomscrolling through your social media of choice on your phone, head empty, full goon. @@t.h.4170
SO TRUE
"ooh look at me, I'm Ryan and I'm happily married with a family and house"
*luckily married.
@@PinHeadSupliciumwtfwhat?
Alright guess I am loading the gun.
This is what he wanted all along. Depopulate the earth so he can have more children
Don't act like you keep it unloaded
Me first please
We're all made of the same stardust
stardust=cum
I love that the conversation is happening during rapid fire also because that's the perfect parallelism for "oh you didn't have everything go perfectly as you planned well you might as well just give up".
That was depressing.
The past is kinda wild when people were like "i got a summer job after high school to buy a house"
I just threw up in my mouth a little.
i have to 📴 myself
@@quadrillion92holy shit
Eh I always see this quote but if you worked minimum wage in the 70s you wouldnt be able to buy a house that easily, or else apartments wouldn't have existed then lol. Maybe college debt was a lot less and maybe it was better for the middle class, but it definitely wasn't better for everybody.
NL is walking a REALLY tight rope this entire clip
he was so disrespectful for no reason 😭
He just has no perspective of what regular people go through because my guy got lucky in his mid-twenties
@@TheGreatRio you really don't need to be lucky to find a partner. You just gotta try, my guy
@@lukieq12 shitty people have to get lucky to find someone who will live with the abuse they refuse to acknowledge. Many, many people are just fucking horrible in a relationship and see their partner as a means to an end. When people complain about dating being terrible you have to understand that they are the only common factor in their dating life.
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How did I just now notice the You've Been Etho'd in the background of the outro?
Librarian paying respects to the classics
Oh my god I never realized until reading this either, fucking +2 librarian. The Etho to NL/Librarian progression scarily reflects me exactly
I got a factory job out of highschool but it only pays $15/hr that's just not enough to care for an additional person.
in addition, a lot of factory work is physically rough on your body, and now that pretty much every government has said “lol we’re not doing shit to protect you from an illness where you roll the dice on becoming long-term disabled every time you get it”… it’s rough out there lmao
40 years ago the equivalent could support like 3 kids easily man its insane lol
@@Sam-pr6oe Literally had that conversation with my dad when I got my first job at 16. I was doing odd jobs in a small factory and getting like £10/hour for it. He told me how that would have covered all his living expenses in the late 70s/early 80s, but for me it was barely making a difference. No one wants to pay you any real wages anymore, but everyone wants you to pay out big for the most basic crap. System's screwed
i was making airplane parts at the same rate, i got some small raises but still thats terrible starting pay for doing that sort of thing (and theres no way youre buying a house)
@@86pp73 the system is literally designed to pay you as little as possible while charging you as much as possible. It's just how supply and demand works. But people don't negotiate, and are willing to work for minimal, so companies get to decide everything.
I emailed this video to my therapist.
6:57 holy that just put everything into perspective, he really is boomer-coded, but also the hero that the zoomers need, but don't deserve.
Me, a 33 year old watching this clip. Basically just the Aware emote in slow-motion
ok old ass
It's okay I still have time to change Copium
35, jobless, car was repossessed a little while back, left a shit factory job (it was Union, so it had that going for it I guess) and trying to get into programming. Been a hobbyist programmer for 20 years, but of course the tech jobs had to take a shit right when I decided to try to get in...
Yeah my gf and I are barely staying afloat right now. If we had to support a child, we would be homeless.
Keep at it man, it will pay off@@Bobbias
@Bobbias You got a girlfriend though so that's cool
4:18 malding nimby's dislike seeing children within a four block radius.
Poor justin dude lol
I've been married once, lived on my own for a decade, and then got into another very serious relationship. Changing habits was very very difficult at that point, to the point that we broke off our engagement. TLDR I'm getting the gun
I have never caught so many strays before. I need medic
it's joever for us
Jesus h christ NL
Eh, it's not the marriage as much as it is (gestures at the entirety of the world) _that._
Can you please give a more thorough description of the gesture you’re doing? I’m having trouble visualizing it.
@@strangeshotgun A broad, sweeping horizontal gesture from my left to my right with my right arm while my hand shakes around with no discernible control, then stops, and does a more focused, forceful large swipe the other way
huuuuuuh?
I Love that as soon as he says "the animals are leaving" the whole chat references the same librarian edit. love it
that's not a librarian edit that's an old meme lol
@@darianfelice5353 yeah i know, but they're totally referencing it because of the edit
He's basically explaining Dialectic Materialism lol. Economic changes creating changes in culture and human behavior.
yoooo NL marx pilled
No, the only reason anything bad happens in society is moral degradation! /s
@@tou-send4349you think saying economic changes lead to cultural changes is an exclusively Marx thing?
@@hastyscorpion dont care + something something materialism + i was memeing + youre yapping
noooo but i was taught that history is a result of a series of great men nooo copium and they did great things noooo it can't be because of the cultural and material conditions at the time nooooo
im not sure where this joke is going but if anyone wants to workshop it-its all yours
Why is NL singing a Pink Moon cover giving me goosebumps 😢
3:26 motherfucker 100 years ago we experienced one of the worst economic depressions in recent history
I feel like an underrated aspect of this argument is that bc medical tech has advanced so substantially and people are living much longer (close to 10 years longer than Americans did in the 60's and 70's), the typical generational transfer of wealth that happens when parents die and pass assets onto their children is taking much longer to kick in for millenials and Gen Z than any previous generation
The wealth of the parents isnt even going to their own children in most cases. They are blowing it on cruises or live pension payout to pension payout. Theor ntire mindset is "I bothered with you as a child, now you can do it all yourself (in the society left)."
Bruh what generational transfer of wealth? Old people get scammed out of their money by the system/get bled dry by the medical industry trying to stay alive
Guy who has been married half his life: married people are hot
why did he just keep going omg that was kinda mean
So many non targets killed
bro is cooking me so hard that my father came back to tell me how disappointed he is in me
NL is extremely heteronormative and then bullies Justin, truly the Devilled Egg era
its so over for zoomers
edit: this mf toasting justin for no reason
AI partners which literally conform their identity to match your perfect personality, tricking the fallible human brain into love.
_Zoomers, we're _*_so_*_ back!_
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When my dad was my age he made $15/hr doing fiberglass work. He was speechless when I showed him that today that would be $100k/year.
the pink moon outro cover fucked me up
I can tell you, the thing that's wrong with *me* is I spent my entire life in various states of having no damn time to dedicate towards a relationship. Never had puppy love, 18 hour or more days on that college grind from jr year of highschool all the way to a Master's degree in a total of 7 years.
Then immediately getting into throwing 10 hours of the 5 days away towards actually working to return money on the degrees. I mean time just gets *eaten* up by _existing._ 1.5 hour prep for work, 1 hour gone from driving, 9 total hours actually _at_ work (male dominated field, no ladies present for even the possibilty of a connection, also a problem during college days), 1 hr to make dinner, 1 hr to eat dinner, 0.5 hr to clean kitchen and prep tomorrow's lunch, 0.5 hr bedtime prep, 1 hr pondering thine orb, and 7 hours sleep. Unless you neglect health or the job with which the money assures the ability to have good health, all which remains is 2.5 hours on a daily basis of free time. The weekend is usually filled with the stuff you neglect to do during the week like grocery shop and house maintenance. To get to the stage in a relationship where some of those daily chores become a shared time activity, it's going to take absolutely ages to find someone of interest in the first place, since you have to cash in those 2.5 hours *not* being in your house, and then even longer to determine if you _actually_ like them.
Why get a partner if you don't have the time to cherrish them?
Aim lower to travel more distance, aim higher and you'll get pretty high up and fall far. Literally why even pursue such a lifestyle if you feel this incensed by how it affects you
@@baconman9418 Well, to clarify, I'm not bitter about my circumstances or decisions at all. I would quite literally not have it any other way except biologically not needing to sleep, which would be pretty sick. My comment was just answering the question the video asks about "how do you get to be an adult without having any significant relationship" by talking about how different priorities eat away your time. I prioritize stability in my life, money is stability, and tacking on _anyone_ onto your life is inherently introducing chaos since they have their own agency and there *will* be conflicting priorites between you which steers you in unexpected directions sometimes.
I hate that one chatter that brought up jordan peterson
Am not saying he or any of his friends is wrong, but each person take on it is biased to how they approach it and NL is just talking about what he values as a person and that effects how he think about it same with kory. It's just talking about dating based on their own values as a person and there's nothing wrong with that. Am just saying it will be different for different people
Anyway, read Das Kapital
The NL to Marxist pipeline needs to be manifested
@@tentativegazer I'm a maoist now, idk what happened
@@hatefullefty Character development is what
mfers really live in Vancouver and cry about housing prices lmao
This is me in the clip Pagman, guess I'll die then.
the fact that the first bit about millenials even need any explanation is insane to me
I miss Babs
as a zoomer, i will never get married
Ist ich ofer fur mich?
😢
Some of us just don't have 'sharing my life' as a top priority. Intertwining yourself deeply with another human isn't a universal goal, and, contrary to popular belief, not a prerequisite for regular satisfying sax.
sure, but if you ever wanna trombone, you gotta put in some work
Basé
New theory he developed a great sense of humor to compensate for being a judgmental prick
The villain arc
his ability to go on a 7 minute rant on any topic is awe inspiring
my antinatalist friends say it's the worst time to have kids to the point that it's unethical. My response is with that logic there was no time time in the entirety of human history that was "good to have kids" except for maybe the 50s
That's not really a rebuttal of antinatalism, though. As many antinatalists will point out, there has never been a good time to have kids. It has always been a bad time for doing that.
@@cabellocorto5586 Yeah, it's always unethical because you can't gain consent from the unborn and it's a statistical certainty that some significant percentage will wish they had never been born. The world regularly catching on fire these days certainly helps fuel the conversation though.
All I'd say is that if you want to have kids then just adopt. There are a lot of people already on this planet that are suffering and could use a great home, you don't need to drag more people into the world to start a family.
Antinatalism is pathetic. It's a bunch of people who have given up on trying to figure out how to find value in being alive in difficult times, even though countless people have done the same, and then project that feeling of hopelessness onto everyone alive. It's another form of blackpill doomerism. I'm a zoomer who is alive today and I feel just fine about it. Maybe instead of preaching the virtues of human extinction you should start brushing up on radical philosophy and start figuring out how to love yourself for once?
@@TheSquareOnesAsking genuinely, are you aware of how difficult it is to adopt, how many prospective adopters there are for every foster child?
@@Enuchful Yes.
NL has lost the plot brother
either he lost the plot, or we all just found it. And brother, it ain't looking good either way
-10 but unironically
I know I'm gonna get hate for suggesting it, but how many undesirable men today would have had no problem getting married in the past just because women couldn't really afford to be picky and were socially pressured into thinking that they were "running out of time" before they even hit 30
Nah that was absolutely the case, still dealing w the effects today. The only hate I could see anyone getting is suggesting anything about that situation was desirable, in which case the hate would be justified
Lotta dudes would rather go back to an era where they didn’t have to try, blaming women for “raising their standards” rather than looking inward and ACTUALLY maturing as humans like they’ve been forcing women to for generations.
@@IanZWhite00that's probably just me being a very spiteful person, but when I see boomers complaining about younger generations and this issue I always think you know maybe the fact that there are way less marriages also means there are way less *loveless* marriages.
@@IanZWhite00 The genie is out of the bottle on that one, but I'd wager that on the whole more people were happier in that arrangement (including women) than they are today. They never "forced" women in the recent past to get married, it was just social pressure/expectation. And the pressure was equally applied to men. Marriage benefited women more than it did men. People are generally better off living as a couple than they are living alone for their whole life like many are today. If it wasn't for unprecedented levels of immigration society would have already collapsed.
And vice versa.
It is hard to settle for someone when you have an entire globe full of people to choose from.
Sure, the world allegedly also existed in the past, but today with social media being so omnipresent it actually seems realistic that there's someone who is literally perfect for you, so why be okay with going out with that mediocre colleague who doesn't share your love of Kurosawa movies and Genshin Impact?
Much better to forever fantasise about the life you could have, and the Internet is right there to let you keep dreaming.
also a lot of women would have been unaware of how bad they actually had it and what a good partner is supposed to be like
Why does he play that Olympics game
aware
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Robots replacing 99% of the workforce is factually inevitable. It seems very likely to happen in the next 40-50 years, which would mean either:
a.) we live in a utopian society where nobody has to work, therefore savings are meaningless
b.) we live in a dystopian society where everyone but the 1% is out of work and lives in slums/dies from poverty, which would make a meager retirement savings meaningless
So yeah i kinda don't see the point in saving for retirement
I understand the thought process, but it isn't good financial literacy.
The only purpose of saving should be for an emergency fund or upcoming purchase. You don't save for retirement, you invest for retirement. Owning a stake in Walmart and Amazon will be worth a lot when those corporations rule the world.
Also, robots will never replace 99% of the workforce. Not in any living person's lifetime at least. People may work less or change the type of work they do, but we are unimaginably far away from robots doing everything. Even many of the jobs most "at risk" of being phased out still probably have a good 10-20 years left. And some of them will exist even after that in a slightly different form.
@@koolaidjerkOwning a stake in the big corporations in the future will be worth nothing because if you actually try to withdraw your stocks they'll have figured out a way to say "Nah, that's ours now, bye bye buddy".
@@jamesmccomb9525 In this scenario, you're the "they". When you buy company stock you're buying partial ownership of the company. If you bought all of a company's stock you would be the sole owner of the company.
Owning stocks lets you literally vote on company decisions and direction, and gives you rights over their assets and profits.
You can't "withdraw" stocks, you can only sell them to someone else. They have no real value outside the company's assets and profit, or what other people will pay for them. Other people have no authority to seize your shares, and the more shares you have the bigger say you have with what the company does.
@@koolaidjerk Other people won't have the legal authority, no, but that won't matter. People with enough established wealth will just be able to muscle you out of it through violence and intimidation.
tbf, theres also a weird world where people don't want to lose their jobs, but also cant imagine a society where someone can survive without working, so they make a push to outlaw automation
idk if its very likely to happen, since corporations have a lot of influence on the government (well, in the US, at least), so they'd almost certainly try to block it
but at the same time, if people pushed hard enough for it, i could imagine a certain type of populist politician backing it so they could point to it and act like they made things better for the working class (while proceeding to take bribes and make things worse in other ways)
thinking about it more, it even has a bonus over the dystopia (like, a bonus for the rich people), in that it prevents the working class from realizing that the system is completely rigged and trying to tear it down
i really hope it doesn't happen, but thinking about it more it seems... disturbingly possible, seeing as so much of society just cares about The Status Quo™
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ngl why did you make this a video this just made feel like ass its just NL being insanely cold for no reason
I feel like NL is missing the forest for the trees, considering the onset of an ecological apocalypse and everything.
Though, I guess if I had a baby daughter, I’d probably also have cognitive dissonance about that to protect my own sanity.
I think it is distinctly a thing for parents to just block climate apocalypse out of their mind. My friends with kids be like "we'll be fine, technology'll work it out" all the time.
NL is proof that having a kid makes you 10x more annoying and defensive, which is reason enough for me to not get one.
chat treats NL like their one married with kids friend, and it gives NL a false sense of expertise regarding marriage and kids given his platform.
by and large, im not a hater, but when he gets on marriage or kids it gets old
??? that's his life bro why u here
@@knightlunaaire1087 the million other things he banters about?
Uh, people have a lot of those friends irl outside of NL what?@@knightlunaaire1087
@@knightlunaaire1087I'm here for the Chiblee, Chiblee, Olivia Munn.
@@demujo couldn't think of something better to say but it's been a part of his content for a few years so your comment sounds goofy
i'm a zoomer who is married
Elder zoomer (22) here, just got married, she's great.
We have been together 3 years and have already have had enough bad fights to know we love each other and will work through anything.
She's great and I want to give her the world
Brother if you're an elder zoomer I must be an ancient zoomer (25). With 1997 being the absolute cutoff for Gen Z
Please NL already machine gunned us. We don’t need a 22 y/o calling themselves elder.(im 25)
UA-cam should introduce a timed reminder function
@@HoboRoadshow7 +2. But also good luck with the marriage brother. ..Hope you beat the odds.
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For the people who don't get it 🤓: NL inferred (has no personal experience) the unique challenges of living single for a long time and then dating. He didn't say you aren't worthy of love ❤️ ♥️ 💕 💗
Did we watch the same clip?
@@Exarian in which case you're not worthy of it...?
eh there's a difference between being unworthy of something and just not having it. @@Phoenix0F8
I'd rather not be worthy than know I am worthy and still purpetualy incapable of connecting with someone I feel is worthy.
Having children with knowledge that the next 100 years of our species will be wrought with economic, social, and climatological challenges (most of which we have done little to nothing to resolve) is selfish and wrong. I’m not saying that the folks who have children are bad people; i’m saying I personally would feel bad bringing a child into a lifetime that will be worse off than the one I had.
Adopting children, however, is a moral and altruistic way to fulfill the desire to have descendants while still staying within your own personal limits.
Live in your own boundaries. Think of the future. It takes a village to raise a child; not all of those villagers need children of their own.
I, for one, don't have kids because I'm lazy. I don't need to virtual signal a reason and claim other people's decision to have kids is selfish and wrong.
@@john_john_john both sides of the same coin tbh
@@john_john_john yeah, the moral condemnation and superiority does in fact make me think it’s an anti-natalist that wrote it
Has there ever been a century in human history that wasnt exactly how you described?
@@john_john_john your reasoning isnt actually that different from OP, just less preachy
"Really in 17 years nobody said 'I'm gonna lock that down'? What's wrong with you? I don't mean 'WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU' I mean 'What's *wrong* with *you*"
Trauma, NL. I was abused and it lead me to isolate myself for decades. I didn't luck out getting to play video games for a living. But it's okay, because it is morally wrong to have children and I will never have any so I know that I am objectively morally superior to the egg.
With comments like this, brother the abuse never stopped for you. Feels to me like you're torturing yourself anymore. This seethes vitriol for literally no reason. You will *never* be morally superior to someone if you continue to spite strangers merely for the fact they're happy. It's petty, pitiful behavior.
@@Providence83 i mean . yeah no fucking shit, when youve been abused your brain tortures you, thats what abuse fucking does to you
but thats not even relevant, since saying its morally wrong to have kids isnt "spiting strangers for being happy", its seeing how easy it is to fucking ruin another human's life, and saying "yeah no, i am NOT risking that"
[and honestly, focusing on the parents being happy and ignoring how the kid feels is literally *part of the problem*]
personally, i dont think its inherently morally wrong to have kids, but youd have to be *extremely* careful about it, and if someone does it without even considering the risk of trauma and how bad that is, then its definitely wrong
...but also, what they said might've been tongue-in-cheek anyway lmao
@@Providence83 Seething with vitriol not for no reason. Did you watch the clip? NL "jokes" (i.e reveals his true stance and criticizes but masks it with humor) that people who haven't had any relationships are "chaff" and are defective in some way. I'm not spiting NL because he's happy, I'm spiting him because *he* is being very petty here.
@@cabellocorto5586 The chaff thing is more of a metaphor for the baggage of which you speak, which can be a dealbreaker for a lot of people looking for a lifelong partner.
@@Providence83Calling people petty on the internet doesn't make you the reasonable third party you're just the vanguard of the status quo, go read more Jordan Peterson books
Reading the Bible made everything less anxiety inducing for me. I recommed the book of Proverbs.
based christian NL viewer +2