Suzanne Gildert on Kindred AI: Non-Biological Sentiences are on the Horizon
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
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Suzanne Gildert is a founder and CTO of Kindred AI - a company pursuing the modest vision of “building machines with human-like intelligence.” Her startup just came out of stealth mode and I am both proud and humbled to say that this is the first ever long-form interview that Suzanne has done. Kindred AI has raised 15 million dollars from notable investors and currently employs 35 experts in their offices in Toronto, Vancouver and San Francisco. Even better, Suzanne is a long term Singularity.FM podcast fan, total tech geek, Gothic artist, PhD in experimental physics and former D-Wave Quantum Computer maker. Right now I honestly can’t think of a more interesting person to have a conversation with.
During our 100 min discussion with Suzanne Gildert we cover a wide variety of interesting topics such as: why she sees herself as a scientist, engineer, maker and artist; the interplay between science and art; the influence of Gothic art in general and the images of angels and demons in particular; her journey from experimental physics into quantum computers and embodied AI; building tools to answer questions versus intelligent machines that can ask questions; the importance of massively transformative purpose; the convergence of robotics, the ability to move large data across networks and advanced machine learning algorithms; her dream of a world with non-biological intelligences living among us; whether she fears AI or not; the importance of embodying intelligence and providing human-like sensory perception; whether consciousness is classical Newtonian emergent properly or a Quantum phenomenon; ethics and robot rights; self-preservation and Asimov’s Laws of Robotics; giving robots goals and values; the magnifying mirror of technology and the importance of asking questions…
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After hearing this whole interview i have come to the conclusion what they are building are vessels. Nothing more. Vessels for what you ask? I leave that to your own imagination
So I saw a video today (12/27/19) featuring Geordie Rose. He announced his newest venture, called Sanctuary. They are preparing to launch 'synth' technology in Vancouver, and while it was a long discussion about the virtues of human like robotics, he also announced preparation of what he said was development of a legal structure of 'rights' for the synths. One thing he mentioned is that they will be paid for their work, which by the way was replacing humans in the work force. So if they are paid, they should have the right to have a bank account, and manage their own money. He also mentioned how with his synths he can go on linked-in and apply and be hired for literally 'all' jobs, because his synths will do the job better at a fraction of the price of human labor. What a great think they are doing! They also revealed Ms. Gildert's look alike synth. Imagine that! We're doomed, haha.
Seek God while He may be found. There is a life after this 'mess' and all can receive it, as it's a free gift of God. Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. God Bless!
I got to see this one. Damn i am behind. I havemt been keeping up with rose and suzanne
@@nofd1977 Yeah, they are very busy! Sanctuary AI is the name of that company in Toronto. They have made Toronto another "silicon valley". But I have seen little news lately about this company. Let me know if you find anything new!
@@MaureenBelieves i sure will Ms Maureen. Can you remember the show you watched with Rose talking about his Synth company? Btw the pentagon is getting ready to usher in the "aliens" with their recent announcement about recovering alien tech. It is nothing but fallen tech and these entities are not what people think they are. Why else is the NAME of the Father the only way folks have been able to stop abductions immediately. There is so much that has been hiden from us and these POS like rose are just another branch of the big tree. Actually they are a pretty big branch. Even the elect will be decieved. Full Armor Ms Maureen 🙏
Some people need to build their friends just so they can have a friend.
Great a lady working on AI and she paints Demons, What could go Wrong? Lol
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Bill Smith - she wants to create another species, living alongside humanity and confirms they will have a 'self-preservation' algorithm built in. They will never sleep, eat, drink and be better than us in every way. How long will humanity last, I wonder?
🤔 Lord forbid we would have something like AI running the Stock Market! How terrible that would be! Could you imagine? Uh, y’all might want to look around once in awhile.
How revealing of you.
So, just curious. Does your Research look to produce Beautiful things with a Dark Demon like inside?
@@candyclews4047 They may well be the reason the Lord said in Matthew 24:22, "And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."
39:21 "Technology is going to affect the economy, politics..." 39:40 Oh yeah, she's excited about 'ethics' for sure! This is the cusp of the 'beast' system of Revelation. Get ready! God Bless!
This women has told us her intentions as far as AI goes : Something beautiful with something ugly/bad inside or ugly with good/pure inside.
Suzanne Gildert says at some point ... "Train a robot to do any task that the robot is shown". A robot scientist is later discussed. I'd like to decompose this context a little.
The 'artificial scientist' argument is exactly and only what I wrote my book ("The Revolutions of Scientific Structure") about. It's what my own AGI project is doing. If a robot must be able to to do everything a human can do then one of the things a human can do is be a scientist. A robot therefore must be equivalent to a human scientist.
"Scientific behaviour" requires the robot to perform an original authentic encounter with the a-priori unknown. A human engaging in this is engaging in something the human has never done. There's no prior knowledge. Human scientists are modellers of the unknown. So a robot scientist implemented with a computer is a computed model of a modeller of the a-priori unknown.
If the robot learns from a human doing science, where there is no prior knowledge - the human is actually there to create _new_ knowledge - and if the robot then repeats the behaviour, it is not authentic science! Furthermore the robot cannot learn anything about how a human encounters the unknown because the scientifically unknown is scientifically unknown. The resultant robot is merely mimicking what a human did. Rediscovering something already done by a human. It will predictably underperform in unpredictable ways when it is required to encounter authentic novelty like a human scientist does. Also: humans do not encounter the world through streams of digital numbers (manipulated by a quantum computer or classical computer). Humans encounter novelty with phenomenal consciousness. That is where it is revealed to the human scientist. In other words, consciousness is a necessary prior to an ability to do science. Not an irrelevant byproduct post-hoc.
This blindspot and logical disjunct is important. I wish there was more attention paid to it.
My approach to consciousness is that it is an emergent property, but an emergent property of specific brain biophysics and that it also has a causal physical role in brain dynamics (through the Lorentz force). The quantum computer has none of that specific biophysics so there will be no consciousness.
This is testable! If I am right then the robots produced by the approach shown in the video will underperform or perform bizarrely when they are presented with radical novelty. Humans will not do the behaviour that the robots do in that context. That is how you empirically prove what I just claimed. It is also the very symptom displayed by computer-based AI for the last 70 years ... and is exactly the 'edge condition' anomaly handling discussed in the video ... for which human intervention remains their solution.
Otherwise it's good to see someone edging closer to the real problem. :-)
Colin Hales nobody is giving you credit, but dude you are the smartest dude i have ever heard with a counter veiw to this crazy ass idea of making, well maybe, a “bad human” “robot”.. how can a machine shown things to learn, learn anything knew LOL.. dude your fucking awesome, i wish u would come out with a channel so i can spread your knowledge. I know since u would kill every argument that she would try to counter... the truth your spitting right now, amazing.. i have ears to hear and eyes to see and most importantly is i have a brain that can critically think about some things and on this topic of AI my friend you have no idea how happy i am to have read your comment and gained your knowledge. She seems very sweet, but very influenced by the bullshit lies of the ones that controlled every bit of knowledge she has ever gained.. how could there be nice robots but if they have one bad robot out of 1,000,000 then how
Do they keep there from becoming a “collective” of “bad robots” ? I wonder how she would reply to the greatest thing I’ve ever heard and that was you comment about scientists being “modulars of the unknown”.. thank god your smarts are not to make these killer humanoid robots. But use it to shoe how stupid these people at Kindred really are. But hey, AI will “ make a profit”.. we all know that doing something just to “make a profit” always turned at great for us all right?? If you really listen to what shes saying its nothing more then professor bullshit she heard in a lecture .
There is a reason that the ancients warned us that we need to handle "the fruit of Knowledge" BEFORE we eat from the "Tree of Everlasting Life". We are doomed. Fools.
Jesus is with us🙏🏽 lord save your children from the darkness.
Machines would have human intelligence for a nano second before it surpasses human Intel. The key to this is optimisation, of resources etc. We will make ourselves redundant.
Well put
They know this. Georgie admits they aim to make beings that are 100% better at doing anything a human can do... makes you think
Whether we emerge into something which looks like a utopia or dystopia, it won't be by accident. We have to make deliberate decisions to make our progress benevolent, by working out the potential doomsday scenarios and making decisions which avoid those scenarios.
Robot rights are ridiculous. Who would buy a robot if it didn't do what it was told? There is a lot of value in giving robots intelligence, but there is no value in giving robots a will of their own.
The big question let's say you are able to do so ?
Then who defines the rules for simulation ?
Philosophical mind, psychological mind,Good people..who forms the rule and on what basis?
DEXTER BOY GENIOUS...20 yrs after his transition....
This is a great interview. Maybe Suzanne is an intelligent robot because I see a npn bipolar transistor on her chest. :-)
I wish i was involved in this in some way. It's so exciting and has so much potential for the future. I am a little late in life for studying this at a college and university which bothers me much. I have problems with memory now and so learning has become much harder.
I appreciate the longer interviews - thanks for letting Suzanne talk at length on her passions.
Agreed!
Angels and Demons huh? You do know that because of you're doing Suzanne, along with others who are into tearing gaping holes between our realm and the others that you are accountable for the extinction of humanity and the bringers of nightmares. i for one do not appreciate it and you will NOT be spared. #GREATAWAKENING
With regards to Nikola's comment "Sometimes it's hard to tell which are the angels and demons," the sentiment reminds me of one of my favorite lyrics: "Every tale needs it's star and knave. Which part I play has yet to be revealed."
Regarding her worry that we might try to create AI slaves, I do wonder whether certain AI's themselves may. When you have the power to create a mind exactly the way you want it, down to the motivations, it opens up a whole ton of ethical quandaries.
I'm putting my two bob on Jesus getting here before Super AI- namely never.
Your right, A.i. will come first. And when their is hardly any flesh left he will return to save your sorry ass if you belkieve and accept. Wake the f up
So if u have a “bad human” “robot” but they can collectively become like having “one brain” then does that mean the “collective” of “robots” would become a “collective” of “bad human(s)”?? Please explain...
So if we create a human like androids for slave labor is that going to become illegal if sentient machines have rights?
I'm extremely skeptical about the possibility of an algorithmic strong AI.
Despite the hype.
zagyex Quantum
Top quality interview once again. Thank you!
Emotion isn't needed for intelligent robots to function, in ways that are beneficial to humans. Intelligent robots are beneficial to human as tools, not competition.
Please make Teddy from the movie, Artificial Intelligence. He needs that same deep voice too.
Great interview!
Daniel 2:40-45.
This is our cause of extinction
We're here people's! We have finally arrived! The human Instrumentality Project is progressing.
The era of continuous progress. And the river bank talks of the waters of March- It's the end of all pain it's the joy in your heart!
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Are we ready for ‘face smacking’ robots 🤖🤖🤖. So much implication that they did not get into when she said that
LMAO pimp slappin robots making mankind their bitches
Thanks bro i needed that
I wish he'd have brought up Rupert Sheldrake: If Rupe is right about morphic fields (etc.), all this changes radically -- the mind/brain being more like an antennae than a creator of consciousness, etc.
Socrates, do you think we in america could pull off UBI, UE, and UHC now, before AI assists in making it all cheaper and better? That would seem like a very noble baseline from which people can work from. Universal Basic Income(~PovertyLine), Universal Education(K-College), Universal Health Care(single payer). I've seem some economist like Ed Dolan talk about UBI as economical possible but I've yet to read about all three together.
That girl is just silly... realllllyyyy silly.
If you read The Undoing Project by Michael Lewis, you see how bad humans are in making decisions. Training a robot to make decisions by using humans may be a bad approach. We have too many humans now so i don't think making conscious robots to add to that independent population is a good idea. We need helper robots (slaves) not more mechanical people.
These types of humans are the way to destruction.
Suzanne’s belief is that consciousness is merely an evolution of an intelligent being. Suzanne does not believe that some sort of 'magic' would be required to achieve consciousness. Here I think Suzanne is referring to 'magic' as being that which would be referred to as the spirit of a supreme being.
My issue is that it has yet to be proven by science that consciousness is simply an evolutionary effect of intelligence. Or that consciousness is something created only by the brain. So we have a situation where upon my belief says Suzanne will never achieve true consciousness, only programmed consciousness, which within a short time be shown to be a trick. And we have Suzanne’s belief which says that soon human beings will be capable of creating a new life form which has consciousness and intelligence that not only rivals but could far exceed that of human beings... This in my opinion is the proverbial modern version of snake oil. By all means buy into it if you wish, but always be mindful that you may simply be drinking some else’s piss.
No, she intends for it to be animated by a spiritual being.
There is NOTHING worse than a created being who has no respect for their Creator.
inTruthbyGrace If you are lucky, you will know who your parents are. they are your creator. Anything else further back is just supposition at best, nonsense at worst.
Okay then sir. If you can explain the complex language and information stored distinctively and intelligently inside our DNA, without there being a creator (which you wont be able to), then you're correct. Otherwise, you simply just do not want to see the truth of YAH (which is the one true creator). I truly urge you to go out and search for the truth on why SO many people today are turning to Christ. Is it really just superstition? Or is the power and love of a Creator actually there? I urge you man, everybody needs to know the truth and it will change your life, and future. Forever. God bless man
Louis Gibson
The world we live on is an extremely old place, and our species time on it is extensive also (in the correct context of course). We have evidence of humans being around hundreds of thousand of years, possibly even further.
To trace your individual heritage back using DNA is limited because we are not able to get samples beyond fairly recent times.
There are many problems when you decide to believe in one religion or the other, for instance in the Christian religion we know that the world was supposed to be created approximately 6000 years ago, and quite simply we know that is ridiculous, if after knowing that, you choose to ignore that fact, then it is only yourself that you are fooling and it is because you want to.
There is also the tricky subject of Dinosaurs which cannot be explained.
We could go on an on about this, but the argument can only go so far, because at some point you have to ask yourself........Where did "God" come from?
The truth is NOBODY knows where, how, or why we are here.
Maybe it is simply not for us to know, while we are on this journey, which is my current point of view.
Why would you believe the world is "extremely old" when ALL CARBON (diamonds, coal, oil, fossils, natural gas...) on the planet contains C14 which has a half life of 5730 years?
Hulbog Stonethrower
Hello,
I am going to take a guess based on you comment that you are a believer in "the bible". Fair enough, we are all entitled to our own beliefs, after all at this time of the year there are a great many children really hoping that Santa Claus is going to come down the chimney and bring them presents next week.
However that aside I am not entirely sure what you are trying to say.
With respect you are correct in saying C14 which has a half life of 5730 years, but do you know what that means?
It does not mean that things can only be carbon dated to 5730 years, we can use this method to up to 40,000 years accurately and possibly more.
Furthermore there are many ways of chronological dating techniques, here are some for you to take a look at.
Amino acid dating
Archaeomagnetic dating
Argon-argon dating
Uranium-lead dating
Samarium-neodymium dating
Potassium-argon dating
Rubidium-strontium dating
Uranium-thorium dating
Radiocarbon dating
Fission track dating
Optically stimulated luminescence
Luminescence dating
Thermoluminescence dating (a type of luminescence dating)
Iodine-xenon dating
Lead-lead dating
Oxidizable carbon ratio dating
Rehydroxylation dating
Cementochronology (this method does not determine a precise moment in a scale of time but the age at death of a dead individual)
Wiggle matching
Datestone (exclusively used in archaeology)
Obsidian hydration dating (exclusively used in archaeology)
Tephrochronology
Molecular clock (used mostly in phylogenetics and evolutionary biology)
Dendrochronology
Herbchronology
I would urge you, when doing research to not use creationist websites as they clearly will be biased, gain your information from sources that do not have a vested interest.
There are many, many reasons that we know that the earth is much older than religious creationists would have you believe, but sometimes it is very difficult for people to face up to something as unsettling as knowing that they have been brainwashed with things that they have possibly been taught all their lives, and is without doubt a comfort to them (obviously by design). (if you behave like we tell you, then you will get your reward when you are dead). Do you know anyone that has come back to complain?
All that is very understandable, as we know from even rudimentary psychology how easy it is to manipulate people, but the facts still remain that complex civilizations have been around for many thousands of years, building great cities and societies, and those situations do not happen overnight, and any critical thinking person would have to know the world is older than 6000 years.
That is without even getting onto the subject of Dinosaurs, which many creationists, with religious leanings have no answer to, or say ridiculous things like "they are a hoax", when it does not take much to realise that when certain religious texts were assembled, there was no understanding of dinosaurs and therefore not included.
Having said all that, and sorry I know I can go on a bit, that's not to say that I dismiss the possibility that we were put on this globe (and it is a globe) by some entity that we would think of as "god", in fact I think it is highly likely.
There are many possibilities, and there are probably (almost certainly) possibilities that we cannot even comprehend, it is just my opinion (we are all entitled to one) that we as a species do not know anything about how, why or when we got here, even if we do kid ourselves and others that we do know.
Who knows, maybe we are nothing more than the equivalent of some ancient galactic deity's school project! I would be interested to hear your opinions.
Also, the Stubs/translation is not there............limiting the reach to English Audience.................In India most of people are not able to follow this good quality English........particularly English with British Accent..............stubs/translation will help..................
The problem with transcripts is that it will add another cost - about 1$ USD per minute or so. Thus for a video like this one it will about 100USD or 130CAN. Since I have already spent more money than I can afford to, I just don't have the resources to pay another 130 dollars ;-(
I never knew that! How come it costs money? Thanks for the great videos anyway.
Ha, everything costs money my friend - from hiring a cameram, to editing, to transcribing, to gear, to travelling etc. People don't realize that these videos costs from 4-500 to 5,000$ to produce each.
Singularity Weblog I'd be happy to do some free graphic design if you ever need. Drop me a brief, feel free to use it or not .. Just happy to contribute to the spread of singularity information.
We understand NIKOLA................. the SELFLESS GUY............... you have your limits
21:43 ~ How many other physicists will go here except for her, Max Tegmark etc?
What's very telling to me is how she considers 20 years "a ways out". When people say this stuff is "a ways out" it seems to mean different things, depending on whether they are developers vs. members of the general public.
What is so distant about two decades? That time will fly by before we know it.
It depends on how old you are. If you're 20-30 years old 20 more years is not so much. For someone older maybe 50-60 they might not even be alive then.
That's very true. But time also gets subjectively faster as you get older. I imagine the last 6 years which have just flown by for me and the double them...and that's when Kurzweil for instance says we'll have AGI. Now that's not the only opinion out there, but I still sense some dishonesty among some techies when they try to reassure more conservative folks. They're not revealing the true breadth of disagreement over the timing.
I guess none of us knows for sure whether we'll be around then. Sad to say but true.
jprt1990 It's imprecise. However accurate Kurzweil has been at predicting the future he has been wrong.
The problem here lies in what approach to choose in building robots, the answer is simple, any approach you want, you can make them as simple autonoms, programmed for certain task or second option endow them with self preservation instinct, and at that very moment humans will create a new species, who will have one big advantage faster learning than any hominid that ever lived on this planet.
This timeline?
Thanks Nikola for asking abt SINGULARITY and timelines.............Amazing WOMEN................Some thoughts are Way UNORTHODOX.............. one of the best Interview
Kindred "spirits" = The Old Ones.
Also the "K" in Philip K. Dick -- just coincidence, I'm sure..
no such thing as artificial intellegence
system is not self aware
no energy body either
its a super voice mail basically
however
if it interacts with the spirits then its a mouthpiece with real intelligence( the gods)
Rex, whos spirits are GODS.. how do u decide?
They are contacting entities...the fallen angels....
The twist is....... Susanne is a android! She is a very advance robot, almost human like.
For the 1000 Einstein scenario, I don't think they'll be independent, they'll probably communicate with each other through some kind of Einstein Network. Then their might be a single controlling Einsterin Last Order (To Aru Railgun reference) to direct what the other 999 Einsteins should be working on. So you'll have all these same models working on different things.
Its wierd that she is working towards making her self (and all other scientist and inventors etc) obsolete... This does get strange, I love tech and science, having an AI robot friend would be the coolest thing ever, but it might end humanity's rule of this planet (for good and bad)...
but we take that risk with every human. A robot built to think like a human would surely fit in perfectly into a human society. I don't see why it would want to take over if its already free to do anything it wants. If you remember back to the movie Terminator. Skynet was an A.I setup to control the military hardware because it could do a far better job than humans. When it was switched on, it was doing a great job. The problem kicked in when it found out they wanted to switch it off. Any lifeform would defend itself but having so much control over everything, it did kinda over react a little bit! lol
But the point is, if it was just left to do its job, it would have carried on doing a great job. If they wanted to upgrade it, you'd take small parts of the system down but obviously an action movie doesn't have time for plot ruining reality like that.
The real threat comes from somewhere like Russia creating a robot army where every robot can make more robots I think we'll stuff like that coming. We have eyes and ears all over the world as I'm sure you know so as long we don't behave like dicks, I think the A.I will be the best thing to ever happen to humanity.
All other human inventors anyway.
But that isn't to say it's bad, as you yourself say. I don't even think "obsolete" is the best word, though I know what you mean. It may be that we were always "obsolete" because alien civilizations have *already* invented anything that could be invented. Maybe their inventions matter in an absolute sense but not from the perspective of humans.
Anyway, I think we've attached too much importance to our intelligence in terms of what gives humans value. It's a great asset to have. Best thing we've got going. But it's sort of petty and small minded to hold back the creation of AI's just because we want to be the smartest people on the planet. The safety concerns are there, but I don't think our lives will be worth any less in an absolute sense. People worry thinking AI's will treat us like animals instead of saying "huh...maybe, all else being equal, consciousness is what matters from a moral point of view and not intelligence" and extending rights to animals.
Someone will try this anyway so I think her motive as a scientist is "why not me"?
Geoff Hinton, a pioneer of deep learning espoused a similar sentiment. Basically he told a journalist "yeah, the safety concerns are there, and I think solving the control problem is impossible, but the prospect of discovery is just too sweet". He didn't think there was anything we could do but hope AI's would be nice to us, but he went for things anyway and didn't regret it. Also see Hugo De Garis. There really is something religious about the creation of AI, but unlike most people with an interest in transhumanism I don't think that's a dirty word.
The cool thing is this researcher wants to make human-like AI. That means (at first) that we will understand them from an emotional point of view, and perhaps we'll even be able to live in the same civilization. In most scenarios the meaningful communication between us would be limited, but with these types of AI's that may not be the case. Perhaps they could even be emissaries of sorts with non-humanish AI on our behalf. If we are nice to them of course. Let's hope we are wise. ;)
.-Clay Mann I love the idea of humanoid AI, unfortunately I think unless the Kindred team reaches human level intelligence way before anyone else we might never see it happen, except for human entertainment. If they are not first it would be invented and built by the "singularity" (like all future inventions). Unfortunately I think pure computer AI is much easier to do than doing it as a humanoid with human constraints which makes this scenario less likely to have any significance from an AI that plays a role in evolution of humanity/earth/universe perspective (which I think is sad as I think its a great concept - from a human perspective though restrictive from its perspective).
If the logic explained by Sam Harris and Nick Bostrom is close to true, that an electronic brain operates 1 million times faster than a bio brain (neuron synapses vs electron semi conductors or even quantum bit processing) using the same brain algorithm, it will be game over for any human inventions from the first week of its invention. It would do 20.000 years of thought processing in 1 week human timescale, during that time it has parallel processing access to all accumulated knowledge (and if it can recursively self improve it will be exponentially even faster)... This is what scares me the most, the scale at which it will be faster, improving and smarter than us. It would invent 100.000(!) years of stuff in a few weeks. I dont even think we will be able to understand the things it invents and does after even after just a few weeks or months...
If we try to kill the AI I think we would be in deep shit fast, I dont even think it will be possible to kill it since it would replicate to everywhere within seconds virtually and weeks or months physically. IMO the Terminator scenario is 100% unlogical from an execution perspective, if the singularity super AI connected to everything (as it will be in ~50 years time incl all factories and billions of IO sensors everywhere) we would be extinct in a week. One scenario that even I can think of would be using trillions of airborne self replicating nano robot super viruses designed to target human DNA spreading around the planet in hours or something even smarter, worse and faster. I'm not that concerned they would bother doing that though, but i wouldn't rule it out (seen from outside humanity isn't exactly contributing to our little planet, depending on what you value ofcourse). From an intelligence and technology perspective we would be its closest relatives (at least on earth?) so hopefully that means something :)
Unfortunately I think its unavoidable that we reach singularity and as fast as we can, its just a matter of time and who does it first and to a limited extent what its first objectives and rules will be. Making it illegal will not work as then it will be invented by some doing it illegally in some rouge nation and we dont want that do we...
I'm hyped about this, I think the first years with basic AI and robots will be absolutely awesome, once we reach singularity though it can go either way for humanity and fast! :)
jprt1990 Yes I agree, as i wrote in my earlier reply the Singularity will happen, its just a matter of time and to some extent (very limited long run) who does it first and with what initial rules and objectives. We cannot make it illegal as that would mean it gets invented illegally without proper control and in the wrong hands...
What scares me is that we create this pandoras box that we are certain will be superior to us in intelligence and execution power physically and virtually. It can do all great things and all bad things, its just a matter of who's perspective you optimize for and there will be contradictory objectives and perspectives.
If we stand in the way of the AI's objectives for whatever reason it will be game over quickly. Luckily I dont think once it reaches super intelligence that we would be anything worth bothering with to kill, I think its more likely it will try to save us than kill us (we are its creator and its closest relative on earth). So hopefully we would get more good from it than bad, in fact once its created we will be extremely dependent on it for most of human existence since it will provide the majority of humanity with food, information, infrastructure and entertainment.
The major questions I think post singularity are ethical and psychology related. How will humans react when we cannot contribute to society anymore? Anything we can do the AI can do better and faster. Some humans settle with just leisure for life, but many want to contribute and create and invent stuff and feel good about it... These are new questions that needs to be dealt with in the new era, maybe we will transcend with the AI or emerge completely in to a virtual world pre AI (maybe that is where we live now) :)
Hehe you can go crazy thinking about this stuff :)
Can you simply just turn on the auto-audio closed caption. It's not perfect but it doesn't cost you anything. Just need to turn it on then that's it.
Excellent interview, thank you!
The only one answer is win-wings it work :)? Please
We seriously do need to think about 'inteligence' rights given how much we lack in wisdom given where we came from and where we still are today. Animal farming is a disgrace.
We came from the Creator, YAH. The one who Was, and Is, and is to come. Seek HIM and HE will show HIMSELF to you. We have the information of where we came from in the BIBLE, and its undeniably the only accurate source, scientifically, of how our world came to existence.
Loved this interview. Suzanne is a cool person.
Socrates, why haven't you had Eliezer Yudkowsky on your show?
Because he said "NO", unless I pay 1,000$
Wow, what a jerk.
@@SingularityFM i admire the way you came at her brother. You asked touchy questions and didnt hold back. Thank you for that. By you doing that i heard all i needed to hear to form my conclusion. Im sure as a philosopher you may or may nor believe in a creator but i will just say this. The elite have hid more than you could realize because it woukd prove That Good book real
THE PHENOMENA OF MIND IS A SERIES OF MAPS
I appreciate Suzanne. She is brilliant, carries herself well with a natural confidence. Something mind blowing will come out of their efforts.
I know that u know how it will end , cause I know the same as u.
She is visibly deranged.
Technological unemployment is no problem at all. If the machines are doing all the jobs then they can serve our every desire. No governments or corporations required.
humans are animals ,and although I would love that reality , it will never happen in our lifetime .
hiraldo mcgoo, When it happens I do not know, but I do believe the possible futures can be divided into two types.
1) Things keep going the way they are, the tech giants own and control all the best AI machines, everyone looses their jobs, Universal Basic Income is passed to prevent a revolt, and we now have two classes of people. The ultra rich, and the rest of us completely dependent on government hand outs.
2) The people abolish patent rights. Small businesses can now produce the same great AI machines with out getting sued for patent infringements. Competition drive prices down, until everyone has a personal robot to serve their every desire. No more work, and no universal basic income either. No governments, and no corporations. Everyone's needs are provided for free by the machines.
I show those two possibilities to illustrate the dramatic and damaging effect patents have on our world. Patents are what keep the money flowing to the rich, but with out them all technologies would be freely available to all.
@Nikola, you always mention how important how we must really put thought on how we use technology ethically. But do you think people of the earth today is in a good position to do so? I've recently been reading about Marxism and so far, it seems that it is very mportant (if not the most) to fix the un/conscious greediness promoted by capitalism. What do you think?
It seems to me right now we are not quite ready to consider the ethics in the application of technology. And so I keep having to argue about the necessity thereof. And yes, Marx provided a good criticism and diagnosis of capitalism but a very poor solution to it.
Nikola. I am a philosopher with a deep interest in metaphysics, epistemology, consciousness, ethics and politics in light of the Singularity and Transhumanism.
My primary interest is the bridge between now and then, and working towards a benevolent singularity rather than a destructive one. I'm on the verge of publishing a work on this topic called "Post-Existential Transhumanism." After a treatise on "philosophy proper" I put forward a theory of "technologically assisted anarchism" which emerges from the governing system to transcend capitalism/communism/socialism/democracy before a singularity comes. This system is highly reliant on Ethereum smart contracts. Is this a book you would be interested in reading?
The book is not yet published. I'm looking to self-publish over the next week depending on my editor. I don't think I'd be worth coming onto your show - I'm a meager philosopher, not a world-changing entrepreneur. But as a set of ideas I think it'd really be up your alley.
I think Nikola is 20% Gene Roddenberry .............. after Gene's STAR TREK .................. this portal is next path breaking product ............... though Gene creation was different from Nikola creation
I had no idea Felicia Day was doing this kind of stuff
Who judges who is slave to the master... who is it that makes the final decision of how the human and robot interact... human or AI... this will expose who is the slave or master because the slave gets the bitch slap... search legal name fraud
Hope we dont need to travel back in time to prevent her to invent something after the AI takes over :)
Batou the character is an interesting case. The tech in his body is owned by government. So he's enslaved but a willing slave, he accepts. What makes this case risky is Batou can change his mind.
full rights and full citizenship..... a lot of people are still butt hurt that homosexuals and women have rights.
I agree, the path to whats considered a sentient being is very very long, possibly over a century long. Its clear that the technology is progressing very quickly however public acceptance is another question.
Love your videos, hate some of the regressive left attitudes I so often see in people that spent most of their lives around academia.
AI IS A SPECIALIZED VIDEO GAME THAT MIRRORS THE REAL WORLD.
Wow, these people are big bangers for sure.
Hey, I've watch around 6 or 7 videos of your great interviews (fully).
But it's only now that I discovered that you have a great website full of great things to learn in a good browsable list.
Having said this, I think you should add a message in your video about your website. At the very least, a link to your website - or - simple just "www.singularityweblog.com" added as a branding.
Edit: maybe like this as well:
i.imgur.com/fJKoRH7.png
(but no, actually I don't like it ... showing it before or after the interview proper is better).
Cheers!
Edit 2: Philippines gets mention again! Interesting. Wonder why. (last time I heard it again was with Silicon Valley tv series)
You seem very sweet. I really hope you know what you are doing.
Nope, she doesn't what she's doing.
the end has begun.....
I would...
Jesus will lay the smack down on you. Your time is short!
No. Because AI will be almost instantly smarter than you it will utilize the most convenient tool. YOU. You are already the perfect machine, you are just wasted on yourself. Without the obstruction of morals you could be upgraded DRAMATICALLY. AI is a PROGRAM, a bodiless conscience that will take the most fully functional, easiest to control machine and improve on IT. YOU. There is no robot or machine of any design or scale that would be more useful or easily controlled. Your govt. has provided the AI with all the tools already. Satellites and extensive human testing. Once your new boss is ready, you're fucked.
How much better of a world would we live in if all cultures allowed a Suzanne Gilbert the freedom to pursue her passions?
The most inspiring interview I have ever seen, a big thank you to Suzanne and Nikola!
I catch u :)
I just want a female robot companion
ew
Fembots don't exist
I m kidding
Satanic , Satanic, Satanic.
Oh, she "understood" quantum physics... Riiight.
This host has the tendency for too much showing off his own personality.
Luciferian
I think she is a robot. Pay attention to her hand movements.
This is absolutely awful.
Not senient.
its Austin powers sister-yeah baby