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MWU: Vortex Crossfire II Scout Scope
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2020
- In this midweek update, I'm taking a close-up look at the Vortex Crossfire II Scout scope. If you're in need of a new forward-mounted magnified optic, and you don't have a ton of money to spend, you might just want to check this one out!
I saved over $25 buying this from Optics Planet and not Amazon! I used the code you provided and save another 5% that almost covered the sales tax! Thanks! I'm mounting this on my SOCOM 16 CQB!
Good for you! I’m glad the discount code helped.
@@hrfunk scope arrived, I'm waiting on mounting rings. Once I test it at the range I'll post a video and update this post. Again, thanks!
I've been a Vortex fan since they first came onto the scene. Always a good value for good quality.
The ones I've used have also been good performers.
Remembering Jeff Cooper ! Thanks Marine ! 🎗️❤️
Semper Fi!
I have a vortex scope on each of my hunting rifles. Best scope I have found by far in that price range. Good video sir!
Thank you!
You've really cleaned up the presentation! Video editing and presentation is itself a skill set, I suppose, and something you learn by doing videos. Good work, and thanks for making these.
Thank you!
Outstanding Howard keep up with the good work.
Thanks Rick, will do!
I have been looking for a scout scope for an SKS build im doing and the Crossfire II was at the top of my short list so I was super excited when I woke up to the notification that this was your video for today. Can't wait to see part 2!
Thanks! I hope the scope review was helpful!
I have a Vortex 4x14-44mm Crossfire II scope on my Ruger 10/22 Target rifle. I absolutely love it an i bought the Vortex flip-up cover for it !!!!!!!! Thanks for showing this Vortex Crossfire II SCOUT scope , Hrfunk !!!!!!!!!!!!
You're welcome Jerry. I'm glad you liked it!
Thanks for mentioning the price on the scope. Looks like a good value.
No problem 👍
@@hrfunk what rings are you using
I believe these are Warne vertically split rings.
@@hrfunk ok thank you sir
My wife just got me a Springfield Armory M1A scout for Valentine's day and I'm going to get this scope for it. Thanks for the video.
You’re welcome. I hope you got something great for her too!
@@hrfunk built her a brand new greenhouse, shes playing in the dirt as I type this!
I loved the scout optic concept so much I custom mounted a pick rail on top of the barrel of my Springfield M1A LOADED as far back as the late 90's!
Oh, by the way, I finally had a chance to shoot my Springfield M1A Super Match with the Marine Corps woodland camo fiberglass stock last weekend at a local CMP match for the first time. It was a struggle setting up the 1907 sling with my torn shoulders, plus it was too painful to have my support hand in front of the magazine; ended up having to use the flush five round mag so I could move my support hand closer in to avoid the pain.
Was planning on getting shoulder replacement joints in the winter, but cv-19 has delayed that plan indefinitely.
But anyway, I was amazed what a sweet shooter it was! Not only was it puting the rounds where I called it, but it shot like a BRICK! Lol. That is it felt so damn solid and light recoil while shooting 168gr hand loads. It's didn't have all the usual clanking of moving parts, nor the twang of the main spring like you normally feel and hear while shooting auto loaders. That puppy shot like a Cadillac!
Oh, and I shot it old school military style using the front sling swivel as a hand stop, and it worked beautifully; just as nicely as it does with my NM M1 I built half a decade ago. So to answer your question about the slippery fiberglass stock, it was totally a non issue 👍.
Good! I always wondered if that "slippery stock" rumor was true or not. Now I know. I'm glad you enjoyed shooting your Super Match, I love shooting mine!
@@hrfunk 👍
@@hrfunk I'm sure it is true if you try to not use the front sling swivel as a hand stop, I know it was for me.. Like most people I originally was shooting both the M1's and the M1A's with the support hand closer to the receiver because it was more comfortable that way, and I thought being able to relax the support hand muscles 95%± was good enough, and the remaining 5%± would be insignificantly effecting my shot placements, yet was frustrated that my CMP scoring had reached a plateau and couldn't figure out what was wrong.
About a decade and a half ago I attended an Apple Seed shoot for fun and to force myself to figure out what I was doing to cause a scoring plateau in my CMP matches. Well, while spending hours of shooting I could no longer ignore the fact that even allowing your support hand to relax 99% was still simply not "good enough", (that only a 100% relaxed support arm is "good enough"), and never will be. That's when I finally letgo comfort and forced myself to shoot old school military style using the front sling swivel as a hand stop and finally got my groups tight enough to qualify for the Rifleman's patch from Apple Seed. And sure enough my CMP scores began to improve again.
Thanks for the detailed review! Just bought one to mount on my 1916 Spanish Mauser
Be sure to let me know what you think of it. Thanks for watching Eric!
I have this same scope set up on my savage 450 bushmaster scout rifle. I really like it It's also the only scout rifle scope I have any experience with. The limited experience I do have with this scope for the money is great but it can definitely be better.
You can certainly spend more money on a "Scout Scope" but I'm not sure how much more you will see in terms of performance.
What are some better scope options?
Great review, Marine! I’ve been eyeing this optic for my Ruger GSR recently, and I think you may pushed me over the edge!
If you get it, be sure to let me know what you think of it.,thanks for watching!
Wow!!! I just learned something new about rifle scopes
The eye relief at 7x. Mag is low that’s why around the reticle looks fuzzy. At $650 Leupold Vx3i solves this problem by offering a constant eye relief of 15” at low and high Mags. The ptoblem is that it costs 3 times more.
Good pace. No extra storytelling. Good job
Thank you!
Really great production you deserve more views
Thank you!
Nice review just did the same set up on the socom 16, so glad I found this video thanks.
You’re welcome. I’m glad it was helpful!
@@hrfunkwhat size rings did you use in this rifle?
Oooooh Can’t Wait For This 1 HrFunk Reminder Set 😀😊😀
Thanks Chris!
Great item! Would highly recommend!
Been looking for a scope to put on my Socom. Thank you!!
You’re welcome Rich. Thanks for watching!
It is 7:52 A.M. EST. Who already gave this a thumbs down? Didn't even see it yet. Welcome to 2020 genius.
And people who already gave it a thumbs up know what to expect!
Hoping it was a "flyer" when someone tried to give it a thumbs up but knowing UA-cam it was an anti gun troll
I think there are some people who get very annoyed when they try to watch a video and find out it's set to premier at a later time.
Missed the video this morning but another great one!
Thanks Rich!
Don't know if it just my sample, but the eye relief (at least on my scope) is way more then the 9.45 inches stated in the specifications - more like 11,5 "
Also, at the lowest magnification the black ring around the image is disturbingly thick; at 2,5x and higher it is less noticable.
The whole magnification range seems to be higher then on the older scout scope by another brand that I have - which is good on the higher end, but on the low end kind of defeats the idea of scout scope (why is nobody making a 1-6 or even 1-4 scout scopes?)
Otherwise, the quality seems good, especially when comparing to the older one, the Vortex Scout shines.
Same here!!! I'm disappointed.
I looked at one today, the eye relief was as you described. I asked the salesman if this was a defective scope. He said 'it's for people with vision problems'. I thought someone with vision problems that bad should not have a gun.
Thank you for the helpful review!
You’re welcome Tim. Thanks for watching!
Hr I have early vortex scopes when made in Japan, now made in China 🇨🇳 . I have regular crossfire 2 same magnification , made in China seems like it has better glass than previous models . Being in the budget realm of scopes I feel it’s on par with rest out there. K
I would agree with you. Thanks for watching Keith.
Thanks for the info. I'm working on my 8mm Mauser (Turkish) and have been looking at scout type scopes with LER. I think this would be the one to go with.
I think you’ll like it!
I noticed the same on 7pwr.. I wound up putting it on my 35 rem and leave it on 5pwr.. (still struggling with the optic I want to put on my 18" M1A) thinking about the hopco mount and a micro red dot, all the others I have tried make this rifle cumbersome in my opinion.
What rings? Height?
Does anyone know what size rings he used?
Thank you
My pleasure. Thanks for watching.
I have tried other options on my rifle but not this set up I currently have a 1 x 35 Burris Speed Sight mounted on a SA scope mount , the seven power distortion should not be a deal breaker for the price looking forward to Saturday
I can't imagine using this scope on 7X for anything in the field. I'm a little surprised the magnification range even goes that high.
I have a Burris 2x7 Scout Scope on my M1A Scout Rifle, and I like the 7 power magnification when shooting steel at 400 yards. The bottom hash mark is right on with my rifle at 400 yards.
Can't wait to see part 2 I just bought a new hunting rifle and was looking at vortex scopes so I'm stoked
Good! It will be up this Saturday morning. The premier alert will probably go out tomorrow.
You would be happy with a vortex! I have. Crossfire ii and a copperhead. Both very good scopes especially for the price point
Do you know if this scope would work if mounted in the conventional way. I've been looking at the Vortex 2×7 scout because of the smaller size to put in a Ruger Mannlicher M77
I don't think so. The extended eye-relief would probably prevent your eye from seeing a proper image.
Thanks for the speedy reply, I'll just get the regular Crossfire II
Another great video HR, just one question....Decafe coffee?????????? Seriously I don't know if I missed you saying at what range you set your zero at or if that will be covered in the next video but I am thinking 300 yards?
Hi Tom, first off the decaf was NOT for me. I just use the can for cleaning patches and such. At the moment, the scope is set for 200 yards, but in the video this Saturday, I'll be shooting it at 100.
Tom Truesdale 300 yard zero is way to far far this rifle
@@hrfunk Just busting your chops about the decaf, that stuff is a waste of hot water. ;-)
@@talkingrock7011 Why do you say that? Barrel length, caliper?
I agree!
I have a scout squad and I'm thinking about just using a scope in the "traditional" position. I want to still be able to use the iron sights without having to remove the optic. Plus, I already have a Nikon P-308 4-12x brand new in the box that I have had waiting for a host for a while. I think if I were to mount an optic on the scout mount, I would go with a red dot of some sort to keep the weight down over that part of the rifle. Looking forward to your SOCOM 16 video.
Thank you! It will be up on Saturday morning.
Tony Been 3 has a video of the Bassett mount...Army Markmanship Unit tested return to zero and found it within about 1/2 inch if I remember correctly !
@@patriott3087 That's good to know. I am using his videos to install the future receiver on my M1A, as I bought it as a receiver-less kit. I'm planning on a Fulton.
What's your recommendation on a scout scope that someone shooting nomore than 100 yards get? I'll be getting my socom 16 and just plane using it for target shooting nomore than 100 yards out, and for home defense rifle.
The scope in this video would be a good option.
@@hrfunk ok. I'll look into it. Cause I'm down to this vortex and the Burris 2.7 X 32 scout scope
I have the same scope! Between 2-4 it’s was great, every time I turned the magnification to 5+ it’s gotten very blurry!
I did not notice that tendency with the scope in the video.
Have you run the scope with gloves on? I'm going to order it for my SOCOM, but I live in Nebraska. It gets dam cold here....
No I have not. Unfortunately, I no longer have the scope, so I can’t try it now. sorry.
@hrfunk understood, I also ordered the Hex Dragonfly. I will see which scope works better for me....the Dragonfly is a red dot, so it's not really the same kind of scope. I am not a trained long distance marksman so I'm seeing what works best for me.
What would you recommend that would be a step above the crossfire II?
Probably the Leupold Scout scope
Do you think this would in a regular / traditional position mounted over the bolt ? I’m asking because I have a Ruger mini 14 and want fast acquisition and dont want to lean forward much either like I would hunting.
Yes. If you look around you’ll see more traditional scope mounts for the M14 action. They position the scope over the bolt.
Thank you.
You're welcome!
Would this be good on a Mosin 91/30 with rail in the position where the original rear sight was mounted?
I think so, but I have not tested such a set up.
Nice video Howard.
Thanks Paulo! I had to leave the live-chat unexpectedly. I'm glad you made it there!
Hey question for you, I have the m1a scout fantastic rifle and suprisingly soft shooting for what it is I was wondering if the crossfire II 4-16×50 scope would be appropriate for the scout I do have an extended rail and a cantilever scope bracket. I don't know if it's over kill because it's my first personalized set up as I usually used iron sights. I'm trying to have a well rounded rifle that's good from short range to long range, by no means am I trying to be a Chris kyle I'm more trying to have a bug out rifle that can fill the gaps of an ar 15 all the way up to say sharpshooter, so more of a well rounded rifle that can perform well in all ranges vs having a niche rifle that's perfect at just one thing.
I’m not sure about the eye-relief on that scope. If it’s not “extended” it might not work out well.
@@hrfunk hey thanks for answering I was planning on bringing the scope back on the extended rail as well as using a cantilever bracket installed backwards, would that work?
Maybe. I’d say give it a try and see how it works.
expecting mine today and mounting it on a M1Garand which has similar dimensions from the buttstock to front of receiver ....
Good for you. Be sure to let me know what you think of it!
@@hrfunk got the scope, looks and fits great, should be out soon to fire when weather clears ... eye relief is better than expected
Good info
Good review on the Vortex, I am thinking of trying some different entry-level scopes. But what I am looking for is word of the competition. Hope you took a camera person.
might try this scope out for a yugo mauser. can anyone chime in on how it holds up to heavier recoil?
I wouldn’t expect any problems.
Is a cheek riser a must with a scout scope?
I don’t know if it’s a “must” but it probably helps.
Just got this for the same rifle.
Not a big fan of lower end scopes as I like high end Leupold , I would not mind a Razor though......
I like good, reliable, glass. So far, the M1000-Pro is meeting my requirements.
What's the difference between the Scout and non Scout versions?
The Scout Scope has a longer eye relief.
A nickel or a penny to remove cap for zeroing less chance of scratching anything
You didn't mention ring size or type at all? I know it requires 1" rings, I have the medium rise Vortex rings and I'm hoping they work with the Socom 16.
The rings I used were Warne vertically split rings. I believe they were mdeium height, but I do't remember for certain.
@@hrfunk Thanks! Do you know if horizontal rings would work? Sorry I know this video is two years old but I am so excited about my M1A Socom arriving in the mail tomorrow. Want to ensure I have the correct parts. Scope rings are new to me and already annoying as hell.
@@sd5458 they "should". I believe the medium rings will be high enough. The important thing is for the objective lens bell to clear the top of the rail.
@@hrfunk Yes, I know there are calculations you can do for that re: height over bore. I guess I'll just take my chances. I'm going to have it mounted by a gunsmith either way since I don't have all the leveling devices and such.
Thanks again for the info!
@@hrfunk Reporting back because you may be my only hope lol. I took it to the range and couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. Don't know if I was high or low it was so off. Missed the paper entirely at 100 and 50 yards. What could be wrong with this? Like I said I have horizontal rings (Vortex). Only difference in my setup is I noticed you mounted the rearward ring closest to the receiver a full notch forward on the pic rail whereas mine occupy the last slots front and back.
I didn't end up messing with the windage or elevation knobs because the rifle was so far off I knew something was inherently wrong. I am sitting here scratching my head. I do not think it's a function issue - though I do thoroughly regret not shooting with irons first.
I can't seem to find the part 2 of this video. Is there one?
Here’s a link to Part 2: ua-cam.com/video/dw-fGW2G0-Q/v-deo.html
How is the scope holding up? Any thoughts on this scope vs the illuminated model?
Unfortunately, I no longer have that scope or rifle. So far as I know, they are both still working well. I think the usefulness of illumination depends greatly upon the type of shooting you’re engaged in. It can help with rapid target acquisition, but it really doesn’t improve accuracy.
@@hrfunk I have the Burris 2-7x32mm scout scope on my m1a scout now. Haven't shot it yet but when holding up the rifle I found it hard to see the bullet drop compensation marks. Wasn't sure if that is just me or can the thickness of the cross hairs be increased.
@@StrapDLBStyle You could contact Burris and see if they can/will swap out the reticle for something more visible.
What brand and model of 1 inch rings do you have on that?
If I remember correctly they are Warne rings.
What mounting rings are those
If I remember correctly, they are Warne rings.
What height rings are you using?
I’m going from memory, but I think they are medium height.
@@hrfunk Thank you very much.
Excellent review. Sext rifle , to bad it's Springfield. :):)
@kn tlt _triggered_
What is the magnification???
If you watch the video, I cover the magnification.
@@hrfunk missed it, you could have covered it in your header also. BTW I watched it.
Did you do a follow up to this?
I don’t think I made another video. Did you have a question about it?
@@hrfunk yes, how is the scope holding up? I am considering the same scope for the same application. Thanks.
@@timothym2241 The rifle in this video was loaned to me for the review. It was then returned to its owner. He has never informed me of any issues with the scope, but I don’t know how much he has used it.
What distance do you have this rifle zeroed at?
50 yards