Forza Horizon 5 - FWD Rally Builds Are Competitive in B-Class!

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  • Опубліковано 22 лис 2021
  • AWD swaps are no longer needed for dirt racing now for B-Class in Forza Horizon 5. The class are just slow enough that FWD/RWD have enough traction for dirt races, thanks to the new off-road race tires. Showcasing FWD superiority in some Online B-Class Horizon Open Lobbies. The car used is the 1993 Renault Clio Williams.
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    Timeline:
    0:04 - Tune codes
    0:12 - Cascada Trail
    3:18 - Mulege Town Scramble
    6:21 - Mangrove Scramble
    1993 Renault Clio Williams B-Class Dirt performance review:
    Not familiar with B-Class dirt yet and not 100% sure with the meta. But the Clio Williams does have good overall dirt performance and road handling to do well on B-Class dirt. You will have to be smooth driving it and avoid any sort of sliding as it does hurt your speed. Try to keep it smooth through the turns.
    The only downside is its lack of top end due to it only having 240hp. So any long straights other dirt cars with more horsepower will perform better. But for any circuit scramble races, the Clio Williams will shine. On the swamp area under wet conditions, it will have a bit of traction issues but for most areas it is fine.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 219

  • @IsuckAtDriving
    @IsuckAtDriving  2 роки тому +244

    AWD swap no longer mandatory! For B-Class.

    • @marvinscheer1028
      @marvinscheer1028 2 роки тому +11

      Do you feel like they increased the water " force " as well or am i just imagine things.

    • @leticiajayco6267
      @leticiajayco6267 2 роки тому

      Thats bad news, right.

    • @gfrosty5728
      @gfrosty5728 2 роки тому

      What about A-Class?🤔

    • @sebastianwolf1724
      @sebastianwolf1724 2 роки тому +11

      A class as well, at least for road builds anyway, try the BMW i8 RWD on rally tyres for street racing, bump both wheels in width by 1 and increase power as needed, haven't lost a race yet.
      Not gonna lie, feels refreshing to not need to AWD swap in every class, although I'm not used to it, all that ranked grinding for top 100 in FH4 made me too used to AWD everything lol

    • @dobremihai8183
      @dobremihai8183 2 роки тому

      My A class fwd mugen keeps throwing its rear end out when braking. What can I do to prevent? Thank you

  • @MrTheBigNoze
    @MrTheBigNoze 2 роки тому +99

    I’ve found A and B-class rallying to be some of the most fun I’ve had playing Forza … it’s easy to control, so it’s really about great shifting and overtaking to win.
    Also the hydroplaning in this game is pretty brutal

    • @afif8488
      @afif8488 2 роки тому +7

      yeah... the hydroplaning is no joke in fh5...
      I once experienced it and suddenly my car got yeeted off the track... big oof moment

    • @badboygoodgirl
      @badboygoodgirl 2 роки тому +1

      Yea I agree. It is fun to run the RS200 in S1/S2 but the most fun is had in A, B and C!

    • @benmanutd2
      @benmanutd2 2 роки тому

      Totally agree
      S1 or above is just group B rallying and stresses me out so much

    • @auraskadante6273
      @auraskadante6273 2 роки тому

      Theres a spot that you can take to avoid big puddles in some tracks

  • @GarageHaruo
    @GarageHaruo 2 роки тому +9

    The guy that was first in the last race, his car really encapsulates how people made their cars during the years 1999-2005

    • @dreamshooter90
      @dreamshooter90 2 роки тому +1

      You don't think you can get nostalgic for cringe but you can. :)

  • @Aldebaran_Delta
    @Aldebaran_Delta 2 роки тому +37

    7:35 was such a satisfying pass

  • @gymusen
    @gymusen 2 роки тому +95

    FWD Builds were also competitive on B-Class on Forza Horizon 4, I used to drive one of the 2010's Renault Clio and that thing was amazing, sadly I think Playground Games removed it from the game.

    • @speedchannel7196
      @speedchannel7196 2 роки тому +6

      They don't remove cars from the game.

    • @MrSeatbelt
      @MrSeatbelt 2 роки тому +40

      @@speedchannel7196 when crossing over to the next installment they do.

    • @nerdi5
      @nerdi5 2 роки тому +6

      @@MrSeatbelt thats not what "removing from game" means XD

    • @speedchannel7196
      @speedchannel7196 2 роки тому +1

      @@MrSeatbelt I mean yeah but in my opinion I thought he worded it like it got removed from FH4 and not FH5.

    • @MrSeatbelt
      @MrSeatbelt 2 роки тому +1

      @@nerdi5 fh5 wasn't made from the ground up, meaning it probably had fh4´s entire car roster present at some point in development, heck it still might even be in the game files of the retail or development version.

  • @tiraderodeTori_
    @tiraderodeTori_ 2 роки тому +86

    I reaaally really like what Playground did to H5 in terms of vehicles, many of them now are competitive and def a lot of fun to drive, not like H4

    • @MsFrostitute
      @MsFrostitute 2 роки тому

      indeed

    • @DemRizzo
      @DemRizzo 2 роки тому +9

      *Bone Shaker has entered the chat*

    • @Jacket01
      @Jacket01 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah online. Try to race ai with a fwd or rwd rally build and you lose every time. Why the ai have absolutely perfect traction on dirt. I have no idea.

    • @agrisimfarming
      @agrisimfarming 2 роки тому

      @@DemRizzo Seriously they need to nerf it I hate it when I go into a lobby and all the top 4 players in the race are bone shakers

  • @vedantkothari215
    @vedantkothari215 2 роки тому +11

    The way ppl use horns in the game is amazing! 😂😂

  • @blackavant9405
    @blackavant9405 2 роки тому +33

    AWD was so op on horizon 4 but now you can pretty much drive whatever you want in horizon 5 as long you know how to drive.

    • @Kio_186
      @Kio_186 2 роки тому +8

      yeah, awd swapping the world was a bit boring, i always prefer to use stock engine and drivetrain

    • @lFrontal
      @lFrontal 2 роки тому +6

      The V12+awd swap is unfortunately still a big thing in S1/S2 and rivals

    • @SkylineLofe
      @SkylineLofe 2 роки тому

      @@lFrontal not on Goliath and Colossus though, hehehehe

    • @SkylineLofe
      @SkylineLofe 2 роки тому +1

      @@lFrontal besides, just become good with something like the AMR Pro when RWD or the Mosler _RWD_ and you'll be good

  • @danharris811
    @danharris811 2 роки тому +10

    Stellar racing, you've been my favorite online racer this past year. Relaxing to watch and always good sportsmanship. Cheers from Canada!

  • @AendM
    @AendM 2 роки тому +16

    I love that in this game many cars are competetive and skills play a more significant role than in F4

    • @Kfysster
      @Kfysster 2 роки тому +2

      the variety is decent now, but wait a couple longer and each lobby will be basicaly monthly rivals of a single car

    • @benmanutd2
      @benmanutd2 2 роки тому

      Bone Shaker is everywhere but I agree
      I can use Hoonigan Ford F150 for both rallying and road race as well as being competitive with HSV on dirt

  • @BryanRo77
    @BryanRo77 2 роки тому

    That last race--the chances you had to slide in there and take the lead but didnt keeping it clean---epic ! Sportsmanship --glad Im witnessed it

  • @MooMooFutch
    @MooMooFutch 2 роки тому

    There are so many races I’m yet to do on FH5. Seeing the videos makes me excited to play it when I get in from work though.

  • @ignaciocaballero4397
    @ignaciocaballero4397 2 роки тому +1

    Loved the banjo and kazoo horn xD

  • @m3uec
    @m3uec 2 роки тому

    Great video and great racing!

  • @Sry_4_nothing
    @Sry_4_nothing 2 роки тому

    I love your uploading time. I can watch this while trying to fall asleep

    • @lucid523
      @lucid523 2 роки тому

      That's the best feeling no lie

  • @RMediaObelisk
    @RMediaObelisk 2 роки тому +67

    FWD could have a place in A class too - i did have a good run on one of the high speed tracks with an A Class Clio. might be worth a try?

    • @xboxbenny
      @xboxbenny 2 роки тому +3

      Rwd Ariel Nomads crush it

    • @DemRizzo
      @DemRizzo 2 роки тому

      The Clio V6 in A Class wasn't that bad in FH4 either. Quite fun to drive! Only good for circuits, though. No high speed stuff

    • @RMediaObelisk
      @RMediaObelisk 2 роки тому +1

      @@DemRizzo Isn't the V6 the mid-engined widebody one? I was referring to the 1990s FF one that ISAD uses in the video when I said A Class clio

    • @DeerPlot
      @DeerPlot 2 роки тому

      Definitely, been experimenting with fwd power cars like the VW scirocco, Mugen civic etc and they’re competitive

    • @RMediaObelisk
      @RMediaObelisk 2 роки тому

      @Enioko I know it's the Williams. I couldn't remember the name of that specific Clio when I was writing the comment.

  • @asepkarbu1352
    @asepkarbu1352 2 роки тому +1

    That's wheel on the roof very hilarious like mr. Bean go vacation but from France 🤣🤣

  • @DeerPlot
    @DeerPlot 2 роки тому

    This is awesome , I’ve been building every fwd car to B class rally

  • @Mantebb
    @Mantebb 2 роки тому +16

    I always believed in AWD supremacy but damn.. FWD is just built different

  • @jjfran.6ix897
    @jjfran.6ix897 2 роки тому +1

    That was some nice racing in the second race👏🏾

    • @wendysorbust
      @wendysorbust 2 роки тому

      I thought so too, super clean from both of them

  • @GortysProject
    @GortysProject 2 роки тому

    Nice tune setup

  • @shadowblade15035
    @shadowblade15035 2 роки тому +3

    The Mugen 84 Honda Civic is an excellent FWD car you can put a turbo in the stock engine along with a couple other upgrades and make it a pretty good b class car.

  • @david2odo
    @david2odo Рік тому

    Lol The back tires are working! Nice tune. Getting the front end to dip so hard, well done. :) How FWD is supposedly to work lol i can feel your opponents seething anger. Using the meta and getting stopmed by a hatch. 😂👌

  • @kyonbrace5487
    @kyonbrace5487 2 роки тому +2

    Funny thing is both off-road tyres work pretty well, but less its a cross country I centre to balance on and off-road traction with the rally-purposed tires, plenty go purely off-road and become pure fodder in the road portions

  • @rasyid282
    @rasyid282 2 роки тому

    Always love the sudden euro beat edit haha

  • @NJDJ1986
    @NJDJ1986 2 роки тому

    That was a great race

  • @watchmangamer4380
    @watchmangamer4380 2 роки тому

    A great start for PD!

  • @DeMelly__
    @DeMelly__ 2 роки тому +1

    Nice driving

  • @bahubali-
    @bahubali- 2 роки тому +2

    Me and my brother playing online racing and i see "grandma driving has joined the session" , opps 😂

  • @Jestercresterthelestertester
    @Jestercresterthelestertester 2 роки тому

    DEJA VU I JU- nice driving

  • @pontianakkote1315
    @pontianakkote1315 2 роки тому +1

    nice driving

  • @awesomeman3258
    @awesomeman3258 2 роки тому

    Now this feels like Motorstorm!

  • @gyo9232
    @gyo9232 2 роки тому +2

    0:40 - 0.44 Perfect timing

  • @Bruh-no1ps
    @Bruh-no1ps 2 роки тому

    how are you getting no skid marks whenever you turn while playing keyboard? maybe i'm just seeing wrong but would just like to know

  • @njoyover
    @njoyover 2 роки тому +11

    if everybody is a ghost at the start why wouldnt they make everyone to start from the same spot

    • @akul5400
      @akul5400 2 роки тому +2

      Devs lack some brain cells

    • @koriyagay
      @koriyagay 2 роки тому +1

      Because umm... ummm... Yeah who the fuck knows honestly.

    • @koriyagay
      @koriyagay 2 роки тому +3

      @Misogi I mean horizon is far from being realistic in the first place.

  • @toothlessaggression1892
    @toothlessaggression1892 2 роки тому

    smooth

  • @MrAaronb400
    @MrAaronb400 2 роки тому

    Is abs a must? I have it off but can't set the triggers in the elite 2 controller like the elite original to brake at 90%. A full press on any 3 of the settings hits 100% do have to manual work it out hahaha

  • @marvingreenscreen9947
    @marvingreenscreen9947 2 роки тому

    holy moly i need the spiral mountain horn

  • @iLIKELASAGNAaLOT
    @iLIKELASAGNAaLOT 2 роки тому

    The CRX is competitive in A class as a FWD as well! Yeeted it on slicks and it doesn't get outdragged in the straights!

  • @jackmagnium6115
    @jackmagnium6115 2 роки тому

    soccer mom acing. nice. i bet everyone was surprised to see a daily win

  • @deren_srt1048
    @deren_srt1048 2 роки тому

    give me some of that fwd love, use a golf mk2 in the next rally build

  • @sebastiencomtet9542
    @sebastiencomtet9542 2 роки тому +1

    ah la bonne vieille clio de mon enfance une caisse qui a déjà plus de 20 ans

  • @grifinorange
    @grifinorange 2 роки тому

    B class rally works in fh4 also, though they require quite a bit more tuning.

  • @thesis4349
    @thesis4349 2 роки тому +6

    The off road tyres really pay their price

  • @akaichiro1927
    @akaichiro1927 Рік тому

    I had the same with a 1.9D engine. A real racing car ! 0 to 100 in 15 seconds!

  • @jadenfrancis5469
    @jadenfrancis5469 2 роки тому +1

    I'm still messing with FWD 'til this day. I'm trying out the Veloster N in A-Class.

  • @Mrtn27
    @Mrtn27 2 роки тому

    This game is awesome

  • @kutlachakela
    @kutlachakela 2 роки тому +8

    It's crazy that you found a B class race

    • @Unknown76222
      @Unknown76222 2 роки тому +4

      I find al classes but c and d really

  • @jackmagnium6115
    @jackmagnium6115 2 роки тому

    6:05 epic finish

  • @fabianoterroso
    @fabianoterroso 2 роки тому

    When do you stream ? Love your driving btw

  • @gimmicboy
    @gimmicboy 2 роки тому +1

    Thoughts on the old Bugatti in this class? I’ve won 90+% of my races in it online so far, and would love to know if you think it’s viable.

  • @kittananj
    @kittananj 2 роки тому

    FH5 is substantial upgrade in terms of car handling. It feels nicer than previous entry, and I don't need to turn on Traction Control in order to drive without too much slide.
    Good to seen FWD get a needed upgrade.

  • @ry7hym
    @ry7hym 2 роки тому

    the little Renault that could

  • @03canadianf5
    @03canadianf5 2 роки тому

    Ana and link mapped to U and V? Are you driving on a friggin Keyboard?

  • @DaFranzDD
    @DaFranzDD 2 роки тому

    nice clio

  • @jackmagnium6115
    @jackmagnium6115 2 роки тому

    man first and second are really fighting

  • @JhonnyMordecai
    @JhonnyMordecai 2 роки тому +1

    Quick question: is there a way to hide the player list on the left like in horizon 3 and 4? It blocks the rear view mirror when in cockpit view.

    • @IsuckAtDriving
      @IsuckAtDriving  2 роки тому

      You have an option yeah. It is under HUD and Gameplay, lap time and positions.

  • @jaytharuler187
    @jaytharuler187 2 роки тому

    I would like to see you drive the mosler mt900 on S2, super strong top 5 in s2 in my opinion idk just love driving it. Its also top tier in s2 cross country races.

  • @FEGTTTSDH
    @FEGTTTSDH 2 роки тому

    Clio FTW!

  • @daniellambo7320
    @daniellambo7320 2 роки тому

    Porsche cayman GT4 is a solid s1 road vehicle

  • @kinn1647
    @kinn1647 2 роки тому

    Even better in real life

  • @rdablock
    @rdablock 2 роки тому +4

    shout out to God Lactic

  • @morrowindmemes
    @morrowindmemes 2 роки тому

    hey isad, which keys do yo use to look around the car? I looked every tutorial videos of yours but couldn't find.

  • @adinfinitum7433
    @adinfinitum7433 2 роки тому +2

    AWD might not be mandatory but new players or people that don’t understand FWD racing would still be better off in a AWD car as FWD is a lot less forgiving

  • @xAntiviruz
    @xAntiviruz 2 роки тому

    How do you even find these cars that are good? Do you just randomly upgrade them and see what it can do?

  • @al_zaizal
    @al_zaizal 2 роки тому

    me literally spit my coke when see your vid notif
    edit: this is blew my mind 😳

  • @nothingishere9569
    @nothingishere9569 2 роки тому +4

    welp shelby daytona is op again in b class road. time to hop to dirt racing

    • @tehsensei
      @tehsensei 2 роки тому

      I am big sad if that is the case.

  • @angie1790
    @angie1790 2 роки тому

    Deja vu! 🎶 🎵

  • @Gibero
    @Gibero 2 роки тому

    FWD B-Class cars are my favorite in FH5!

  • @kinn1647
    @kinn1647 2 роки тому

    WRC group N winner 3 times, about time Clio got bit of Recognition from a game developer Renault make 65% of all engines in F1. And own Nissan. 👍

  • @MCPunk55
    @MCPunk55 2 роки тому

    There have been plenty of legendary FWD Rally cars. From the Raunlt 5 Turbo to the Ford Focus and the 206 Peugeot Esso.

    • @versa_media
      @versa_media 2 роки тому

      Renault 5 Turbo is MR. Focus WRC is 4WD

  • @SpeedDemonPowerage98
    @SpeedDemonPowerage98 2 роки тому

    I’m sry but did I just hear an Ashley’s song from Warioware horn? At the end of the first race in the vid?

  • @Reptile1997
    @Reptile1997 2 роки тому +2

    My irl clio 4 is fwd 😏

  • @palpatinethesenatehog7086
    @palpatinethesenatehog7086 2 роки тому

    7:10 the fact that body kit for the Rx7 is actually real makes me question, if the Japanese people actually like their own cars...

  • @maxx375
    @maxx375 2 роки тому

    anyone else notice the 1st guy in the begining of the race is called bahubali990 XD

  • @veava123
    @veava123 2 роки тому

    When your Rally car decided to break 1 hour before the race,
    *Looks around and found your Grandma's car at the parking lot.....
    That will do!

  • @MJTbreww
    @MJTbreww 2 роки тому

    How about the Taycan in A class? Can be a fun thing to try!

  • @jackmagnium6115
    @jackmagnium6115 2 роки тому

    richard hammond drove something like this on top gear.

  • @toptextbottomtext3062
    @toptextbottomtext3062 2 роки тому +2

    4:09 Fujiwara zone?

  • @cubanspy1231
    @cubanspy1231 2 роки тому

    try the veloster N on B class FWD is op

  • @godbernaz
    @godbernaz 2 роки тому +1

    Respect for bahubali

  • @elchoronano
    @elchoronano 2 роки тому

    If only there was people that play B class...

  • @111himanshurana9
    @111himanshurana9 2 роки тому

    Everyone saying it's the drivetrain but actually it's grandma

  • @gr4mas144
    @gr4mas144 2 роки тому

    ...that one dude who don't use brake on first corner and kiss the wall...

  • @Kio_186
    @Kio_186 2 роки тому

    i believe in FWD supremacy

  • @itiscrook
    @itiscrook 2 роки тому

    0:40 It’s always the Civic, huh?

  • @chris-se7jt
    @chris-se7jt 2 роки тому

    Please do a tune for the Audi Quattro

  • @GR4Corolla
    @GR4Corolla 2 роки тому

    Friendly reminder my man plays on keyboard

  • @sussybaka8169
    @sussybaka8169 2 роки тому

    if there was a warning for each time you burned your clutch in fh5, for the average player it would look like: "careful, you're destroying your transmission for the 954976467365767167468645453654638673426342827366th time today"
    for context, i havent seen anyone in FH5 in my damn lifetime shifting without just overreving the engine when they shift
    *even in DCT cars*

    • @kjm3672
      @kjm3672 2 роки тому

      It's a game not a drive down the shops in your 2003 Corolla

  • @VerticalStrafes
    @VerticalStrafes 2 роки тому +6

    Is RWD viable now for normal races in higher classes?

    • @IsuckAtDriving
      @IsuckAtDriving  2 роки тому +12

      RWD always has been viable since FH4 as the fastest cars were RWD powerbuilds. The big question is, can you control 1000hp+ monsters?

    • @VerticalStrafes
      @VerticalStrafes 2 роки тому +1

      @@IsuckAtDriving yeah the weird power builds like the Shelby Monaco are very much viable but normal RWD handling builds in S1 or S2 aren’t meta by any means.

    • @konusRTV
      @konusRTV 2 роки тому

      much easier to drive than in FH4 now, especially in A and S1 thet are better than in previous one as you finally can see clear difference on straight

    • @VerticalStrafes
      @VerticalStrafes 2 роки тому

      @@konusRTV for sure, it’s definitely noticeable but how does it compare to AWD

    • @BloodyKhaine
      @BloodyKhaine 2 роки тому

      @@VerticalStrafes It kinda sucks compared to AWD. RWD is too expensive in terms of PI, RWD cars corner better than AWD, but still you sacrifice just too much acceleration, control and versatility to make it truly worth it. I'm not sure if RWD cars aren't actually harder to handle in Forza than IRL. On standard (non-simulation) drive mode RWD needs some help, or at least lower PI cost so you can put better tires for staying RWD.

  • @Kenpai_TDG
    @Kenpai_TDG 2 роки тому

    Yaaaay

  • @wingheart956
    @wingheart956 2 роки тому

    The tire on top is so distracting lol

  • @kakigame9521
    @kakigame9521 2 роки тому

    This is not grandma driving. More to grandpa ex rally champion driving.

  • @horatioarkas389
    @horatioarkas389 2 роки тому +1

    A blessing from GAWD! Now that FWD is viable, what's the tuning secret?

  • @chefi5357
    @chefi5357 2 роки тому

    Did they fix the network connection issues?

    • @IsuckAtDriving
      @IsuckAtDriving  2 роки тому

      For racing it is fixed for me, but many others were saying it is not fully fixed.

    • @chefi5357
      @chefi5357 2 роки тому

      @@IsuckAtDriving Thanks for the reply man big fan

  • @KrachBone
    @KrachBone 2 роки тому

    IsuckatDriving (MSWGR)

  • @juliuskingsley1773
    @juliuskingsley1773 2 роки тому +3

    Tried FWD rally in the first day of launch. It can drive well, just seriously underpowered compare to meta cars. B class is too slow that even some handling tracks turns into power test. Very sad.....

    • @Dr_Monitor
      @Dr_Monitor 2 роки тому

      Implying meta cars exist in this game, which they don't. Unlike the previous game, everything is competitive, so there is no "meta"

  • @OrlandoJr110
    @OrlandoJr110 2 роки тому

    Water is fully troll in this game...

  • @Pedro-dw3if
    @Pedro-dw3if 2 роки тому

    3:02 could someone please tell me the name of this song?

    • @LimitPro1
      @LimitPro1 2 роки тому

      Pretty sure this song came from hospital record's but I can't really figure out the name

  • @jarosawmagier6280
    @jarosawmagier6280 2 роки тому +1

    Hey guys! Do you know if there will be a ranked adventure? I heard you didn't. The developers of the game gave up on it.
    I wonder if they will turn on the rankings. The league in Forza 4 is the best mode for me :(
    Now there are no rankings, people leave the race. It does not make sense.
    There must be rankings for early exit penalties. We have to write and talk about it aloud, show in films that there are no rankings. Let us not be indifferent.

    • @DrMcMoist
      @DrMcMoist 2 роки тому

      You heard that we didn't know that there will be a ranked adventure...?