StarCraft 2: INCREDIBLE GAME - Reynor vs ByuN!
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- One of the best games of StarCraft 2 I've seen so far this year. Some might even refer to it as one of the games of the year but I would never say such a thing. This is a Terran versus Zerg between ByuN and Reynor where practically the entire map mines out of Minerals and Vespene Gas.
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That Raven just strolling in at the end like "Uuuuuh, guys...bug here"
I like these late game stalemates where they regress back to the one-two hero units deciding the fate of the ending. That infestor on the obligatory stealth mission/level...only to be spotted by the first raven to be built ever rallying on the army ball. Such an ignominious death.
I think its the second raven (the first one already in the main army)
He already had a raven with the main group.
yeah that was fuckin epic
@@ja-no6fx it sure was. This was a phenomenal game
The standard lowko SC2 milestones:
1) talking about the players history!
2) draw the line in the middle of the map!
3) the winning conditions!
4) humming the melody
5) stating that, in fact, pro players are only human too
6) "Man I love Star Craft"
@@falk5068 7) The winning condition, of course, is destroying all of the opponents structures :D
7) "There is a huge difference in MMR between grandmaster league and pro players"
8) Noticing new things about the map
9) Making puns then apologizing for it
@@nirmalasokan1687 10) BRENDAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!
@@FPSgamer94 still never getting tired of any of this :D
Byun maneuvering his army like a war general at the end was amazing to watch. Even using his last resources to make a raven and cinch the game *mwah
I feel like the big ghost vs broodlord infestor fight around 26:00 really showcase how zerg late game is so awkward against terran.
Byun’s army contained several reapers and hellbats on accident. There was even a big fungal that landed on the left wing of the ghost squad. Yet 26 broodlords pretty much melted in comparison.
At this point i feel like when im playing T into Z in a game pass 15 minutes i can just blind build some ghost and it’ll be fine.
Fair comment really. Yet in this case I wholeheartedly support the wholesale slaughter of mass broodlords 🤣
What, you think holding one button for rapid snipe and waving your mouse to kill 10 ultras/broods instantly isn't balanced?!!?! no way. /s
@@Konranjyoutai 🤣🤣🤣
And there was siege tanks doing friendly fire too, despite ALL of that was said in this comment the zerg got slaughter.
Why wait? There's a Ghost rush build going around that's pretty much a steady targeting win
I've been watching professional StarCraft since 2007 at least, the number of times where a map is FULLY mined out is around a douzen, give or take 1 or 2 matches. It always ends the same way though, in one giant clash in the middle. The player with the more mobile army more often than not ends up winning by microing in and out of range to kill a unit here, a unit there, and after an hour, something is gonna give out... making the smallest of mistakes gets punished HAAAARD at that point, so there's even less room for them when there's no more resources available. Byun played that game extraordinarily well, and Reynor got punished for being so greedy, leaving the terran do whatever he wanted. I'm guessing that he tried doing an SC1 build called Ogre Zerg rather than playing his usual style. Amazing game regardless!
More like reynor cant even touch Byun rather than leaving the terran alone, its turtle terran.
Early game: marine rush
Mid: tank def
Late: tank, ghost snipe, scan synergy repeat till 25+ minute mark.
(scan, snipe, run back toward tanks, dead zerg, repeat)
@@nahruz.w3044 You do know that Reynor stick with lingbane for like 15 minutes into the game right? then going mass Ultra against Ghost of all thing, while repeatedly crashing into the most fortified defensive location and fail. Its ont that Reynor cant touch Byun, he did but just failed.
36:00 I think he is holding those mineral in reserve in case of a tie. He can put 1 SCV on it to get minerals to get more time to kill stuff.
LOWKO! Always a pleasure watching your casts!
Watching Byun play is like watching someone dance. He plays a very unorthodox style but with superb control. No wonder his nickname is Micro Jackson!
0:29 this is the exact sound I make every time I see a cannon rush
40:30 Is the moment that Derpfestor knew, he fucked up.
I feel like Ghosts are too good, though I do think they are probably necessary under the current balance. There are very few situations in which a terran player should not go ghosts late game, I don't think there is ever a build in a TvZ game, and even in most TvP games should go ghosts. They just answer too many things at once.
The weakness of ghosts is they need the micro. They are expensive, and can be easy killed by protos units(zealots, stalkers)
@@kubm4s915 not to forget ling bane rips them a new one.
@@kubm4s915 The thing is that I feel what makes them unbalanced is the EMP. The EMP is just seems so absurd, you can do that dropship thing with the Ghost and EMP and that's like half the army of the Zerg not being able to do anything
@@zant1566 half army of zerg? Maybe protos army? EMP effects to spellcasters(vipers, infestors, quenns). And what about infestors. One shot and half army of Terran moves like turtles. And what about storm? One storm and half army of Terran /Zerg is dead
@@kubm4s915 I mean yes, Ghosts having EMP is necessary, but one ghost completely negating almost every spellcaster with a well placed EMP is absolutely ridiculous, especially considering that once infestors and high templar have no energy they are completely worthless, while Ghosts can cloak, snipe and do good damage even outside of snipe. Not only that, but when you are hit by an infestor or a high templar, you can at least move out of the way and even still shoot, while EMP just fucks up one type of unit for the entire battle plus in the case of Protoss does massive amounts of damage as well. EMP just needs a nerf, it's way too strong as it is rn, just like how Infestors were nerfed and made so that their fungal slows and not just grounds units
Thanks for putting in the effort to add the white arrow into the thumbnail Lowboy helps a lot. :)
So thrilling to watch. Super entertaining to watch until the end!
Lowko i think that Raven was build using those last few minerals you mentioned.
That single Raven at the end was the absolute MVP
21:06
QUITE NICE INDEED
I think Ranor need hydra zerg for his groung army and swarm hosts for his harrasing army to get more efficient trades.
great game, you got my like and subscribed again!
I feel like Byun always forgets the attack upgrade.
Why no swarm hosts when Reynor was sitting outside the third base? Especially with that kind of of creep spread.
Byun could have scanned and landed some mules on the banelings.
so glad you've started letting other colors into videos. it's gotten kinda old just always seeing red and blue for the players
ByuN's gonna write a book:
The Art of Turtling
His playstyle definitely changed since his injures, sad that terran's prime last so shortly due to their micro mechanics.
Whoaaa byun surely expand his alphabet now... Before it's all about M, now he added some other consonants which are S, G, R, L
we need the "hello everyone, my name is lowko!" back
I honestly wonder if ghosts will ever get a legit counter.
Reynor should have used infestors at the end
In theory what would happen if neither of the player attacks and both are camping in their part of the map? I mean that could be going for hours and hours....
Can't believe Zerg came to bankruptcy
Why add missile turrets at the very end? Wouldnt a single raven be much more cost efficient?
That balance patch reinvigorated this game.
This game has literally NOTHING to do with the patch, but okay.
@@tigera6 I meant Starcraft 2 in general. Why would you think my scope was so narrow?
@@frankwhite2072 I mean, TvZ was not really affected at all by the patch, so I though you mean to say it changed TvZ in someway, when it didnt. In term of SC2 scene as a whole, yeah, the patch solve the most eyesore issue, which was double SG Voidray. But the fix was easy, they simply revert it back to its previous value.
@@tigera6 Reynor might've gone for an attack on the third with 19 Queens without the patch.
@@Komatik_ lol
What. A. Game.
26:20 again what the fuck is zerg supposed to fucking do
Reynor CAUGHT ALL THE GHOSTS in fungal
They are ACTIVELY UNDER FIRE
They are being SHELLED BY THEIR OWN FRIENDLIES
And it STILL doesnt stop them from sniping. What the fuck
Ghost is OP. Plain and simple. Cancelled snipe _should not refund energy_. If your ghosts are caught by fungal, you MUST do more than just literally stand in place and spam click snipe.
This also happened in Scarlett vs Byun. This isn't god-tier micro. This is literally mass ghost spamclicking snipe without bothering to split or even retreat from fire.
Ultralisks? What are those? Thought you wanted to call them Mediocrelisks.
Swarm host would have being good in this starving game for the zerg. As soon as i saw ultralisk, i was like: this is over zerg lost.
fungal has the same range and aoe as emp
What a game....
Whata a sick game!!
Heck of a game!
Hey lowko, you probably won’t even see this, but if you do, may I ask you since I imagine you have at least a bit of a voice in the StarCraft community even if it’s mainly versus. But I was hoping you could possibly bring awareness to co-op because there is a bug that’s affecting everyone including myself who plays it and won’t allow us to progress past level 5 even for the characters that are free. It makes it basically unplayable and I was hoping maybe you would be willing to help. Thank you
Nydus worms
Maybe it is just me, but this did not feel like Reynor took is pretty serious at all. Felt more like he was fooling around until ~22min and then tried to switch gears, but it was already to late at that point. Usually he would have swarmed with bane / ling run by's a lot earlier.
I do not like that a minor is called the italian stalion. It's just so wrong considering where the name is coming from xD
Brilliant game!
Ghost op. Zerg has no late game units.
...and late game TvZ decided by mass ghosts again. Eventually that unit will get nerfed, right?
Ghosts should return to a niche unit. Not the checkmate unit against Zerg. Terran players can vote on the their preferred changes. Simple. IMO they should do all 3. You're welcome Blizzard/Microsoft.
A) Ghosts base movement speed reduced by 15%, but energy regeneration increased by 10%.
B) Ghosts Steady Targeting range reduced by 1, but EMP radius increased by 30%.
C) Ghosts Steady Targeting damage reduced by 30%, but Tactical Nuke radius increased by 25%.
Nerf Zerg inject and creep vision then we might start talking about nerfing Ghost. It has always been zerg coming on top since 2017, P are none existence, Doesn't that say something about the game?
If only he fully mined bot left base pulling more drone it would had been such a different game
Freaking banger of a game!!!
snipe nerf when? ghost have been the best unit in the whole game for years now. 0 counters and they counter all units from zerg and protoss, can be healed from medivacs etc. next blizzard will give them stimpaks as well
LowkoTv can you translate what you said at 0:30? 😄
I always see Terran winning
Terran OP.
Unfortunately this is probably the only real way to knock off top 20 Zerg players atm. If you try to rush them or fight aggressively they just remax and overwhelm. So you gotta sim city the map and wait for them to mine it out....
29:52 JustMonika woulda made a different choice :/
ayy new vid.big pog
I'm a simple woman. I see an ultralisk in the thumbnail and I click
So, let's say Reynor stops Byun, and Byun moves all of his buildings off map, flying. In a competitive environment, is there any actual draw conditions?
Yup... Extremely rare occurrence, but it does happen. Lowko has featured games that end in a draw in the past. When that happens, they just play another game.
if zerg has no money and no condition for producing AIR UNIT, then draw emerges
This game really feels like lore accurate Zerg vs Terran.
17:32 “At the very least, it’s lore accurate, I suppose”
I know this game will Byun-believable, but I hope we can Reyn-it in.🤔
Hoping Byun can pull this one through.
Reynor shine we gotta watch this together!
Oh my gosh u didnt just do that 💅
I don't know if you're male or if you have children. But you... You my friend you are a dad
SOmebody infest this Terran
Once a Terran with good micro gets a Ghost army, I fast forward to the end of video to see if there were any surprises. There has yet to be...
That's my point when I say Terran is OP. If you got the right even the best can fall against it. Neither zerg nor protoss have that from units
@@joe78man There's people calling all three races OP all the time.
@@godhandvoid9795 So far I never seen zerg or protoss have a particular composition that is hardly beaten as a ghost army. Of course you will find games where players make mistake or take the other by surprise, but straight attack, a ghost army deestroys whatever a zerg or protoss have, because of the characteristics of the units, not players' skill
@@godhandvoid9795 Terrans are always OP unless they lose all the time according to zergs
Even at the end when you subtract the drone count it was like 120zerg supply vs 190terran supply. I think even if tanks were unseiged and did their normal attack, I think he could have won the fight. He also had options of floating buildings over for vision and placing them down to create chokepoints if he wanted.
Great match to watch.
In my opinion, Byun is using Roman strategy at late Republic era. Camp and lay siege to stave the enemy.
Ultralisks have to be the most sad lategame unit in all of SC2. They really need a buff or something so they can do something other than get in the way and then die. And while I understand snipes do a ton of damage, the ultralisk shouldn't get popped in a single blow after it's defenses have been fully upgraded.
I think they should stack with ling bang. Then terran will have to pick between sniping and losing his ghosts or retreating.
The Battle at 26:16 really shows how imba are Ghosts vs zerg... There isn't any lategame zerg unit that can fight a ghost heavy army, even with huge fungal...
At least Terran gotta ghosts, cause Zerg is an OP race in general.
Larva is the cause of units like the ghost.
The zerg can pump out a second army to counter your composition super fast.
This leads to oppressive units like the ghost that work vs anything the enemy can throw at them.
@@vitorh3568 Hardly! They're vulnerable early game, can't wall off, have poor anti-air until at least game, need to fight on creep to win most of the skirmishes. I've been playing SC2 on and off since release and I don't think Zerg have ever actually been OP. There was an issue with Infestors once being a bit too effective but general speaking Zerg have always been playing catch-up with the other races in my eyes. You gotta be a great Zerg player to beat a good player of T or P.
@@vitorh3568 Like I say, unless Terran never wins, it will always be OP according to zerg players.
Ghosts are such a bullshit unit man....
Lowko, I love that you upload daily. Every day I look forward to seeing your videos
31:50 SCV would win against drone lowko, cant really blame Reynor
11:58 Lowko as Jim imitating Dwight 😆
Still cant believe that they didn't balance the ghost, crazy OP unit.
If they did that they would have to do the same with lots of zerg units. Those banelings for example... just attack move for a lots of damage and gg.
@@vitorh3568 but banelings can be split against and forced to have low efficacy, The issue with Snipe is that it cost very low energy and has a massive range, its not like zerg can just dodge it, so ghost are always extremely cost efficient. ex: Byuns 26 ghosts(3900 minerals, 3250 gas) easily destroyed raynors 16 brood lords(4800 minerals, 4000 gas) even though brood lords are supposed to be zergs long range cost effective siege unit. I'm not saying ghosts are so OP that their the reason Byun won, but snipe is entirely too strong
45 seconds ago nice the earliest I have ever been
Terran turtle is lame. Congrats you can’t break through even as one of the best Zerg in the world.
the game was quite boring...cause i always know how its gonna end...terran wins. stupid ghosts are op. It's sad that zergs tier 3 units are such shit. Ultras and broods....I always say this...you should NEED air units to counter air units. It's just plain dumb how ghosts can snipe broods. Limits the strategies making SC quite predcitable game in and game out.
One of the most beautiful matches I've watched ever, and so representative of the two races narrative dynamics: Zerg swarming into entrenched terrans. Such a beautiful narrative and perfectly delivered, down the to the end with terrans tip-toeing around the map very slowly and cautiously, knowing how easily they could be overwhelmed despite the overall advantage they had.
It's obviously fake though. They are just messing around. This is setup.
21:48 totally! Don't get why this isn't more part of the meta
Man, Byun is just unstoppable vs. Zerg with these recent games. When I see him in the title, I just go, "let's see how he wins vs. this zerg player."
Ultra buff Idea: chitinus plating gives untras immunity (or more resistance to) snipe, terran would still have answers, but couldent counter everything the zerg has with ghosts
I don't think snipe should be so strong against massive units. It doesn't make much sense to me for a Barracks unit to kill an Ultralisk in 3 shots with 10 range. It should take 5 shots at least.
@@asterpw I agree. Ghosts sod do less dmg, meaning more use in siege tanks, or Vikings for broods. More variety in late gsme
@@ferallhamster970 make the snipe cancel if unit leaves range, make the emp a banshee skill and ghost a light unit....game would be basically the same, but ghost is no longer the ultimite unit
@@stixinst5791 okay, in exchange, lets make Queen transfusion cost more EN, become a Light unit, and creep spead speed is reduce by 50%, DEAL?
@@tigera6 that is a bit of an overkill don't you think? I just moved a spell and made ghost more in line with other spell casters. I can give you queens as armored and 50% more transfuse cost
But if you wish to reduce ammount of creep by 50% you need to compensate zerg to stand a chance.....one scan can remove area of up to 4 creep tumors or you can spawn a mule. Therefor 4 creep tumors of creep should equal a mule in minerals output.....or you know. Make the scan cost twice as much and loose to anything that burrows
Or make the creep give bonus supply cap (like + %of total tiles covered= if a zerg has control of 60% of the map he has 260 max supply)
That random hero raven at the last play had so much value it was insane! Not only stopped his infestor, but than the huge anti armor splash too!!
how to win tvz
build tank
turtle
build ghost
profit
Imagine if byun actually used those reapers for thier grenades to give the Z army disorganization, like it won't work on ultras but for banes and lings? It would probs blow them off to give enough time for the T army to gun them down more. The ability to move an enemy unit has alot of potential.
The late game meta would change so bad if that actually happened.
Maybe in archon mode meta. But it's just to much for one person to micro so many units abilities.
I feel like I'm watching Maru more than ByuN tho , but I love it.
Both Maru and Byun just play so cost effectively. They trade really damn well.
@@snagsTS Those SimCity CC as well , LOL
@@ZRyuCh I've started modelling my game after theirs to some success but I suck at micro. Must say the SimCity CCs work so well because its like Zerg and Toss players can't resist trying to crack it 🤣
Ridiculous how OP the ghosts are, lol.
At 14:00 mark I was like “if Reynor lost I am sending it to IODIS”
At 30:00mark I was like “damn Reynor really managed to throw this game”
It was a pain to see Reynor tried repeatedly to blast through the choke point and through away his army again and again
What else was he supposed to do. What for the terrain to mine out then move out and lose the game.
So isn't anyone concerned about the state of the game? I don't understand how anyone could like to play or watch these borings games where the Terran is basically AFK the entire game and wins just because the opponent can't push into a million tanks. Terrans are so bad they've also started playing like this against Portoss. It honestly just puts me to sleep watching games like these. Defensive play needs to be nerfed hard.
I don't understand why we dont see more nydus with 50 lings or something straight into the back of bases while engaging from the front in these inefficient trades where you can't even engage with all your forces anyway. If the goal is to whittle your opponent away, flanking/sneaky nyduses should be the way to go
especially with queen transfuse on creep y no nydus
@@nicholasfactor Most pros are not going to let a nydus pop in their main
Nydus is like nukes, a commitment that takes time and resources. But using lings makes that time a hell of a lot longer and is visible on the map
@@hockeyguy1166 by sending some of his forces to deal with it, weakening the front defense, that would be only good for zerg
last minute likes are always the best....
love those old sc2 seasons, very nice
thx 😉
Lowko be like "a couple of hellions", while there're 8 of them. "a dozen of liberators", while there're 4. hahaha, my man!
What if Fungal growth prevented spellcasting?
That will be cool, but i think if you do that then reduce the slow ammount it has to balance it.
Ghosts are busted lol
Byun was mining the 3rd near the end. What's the final count for the resources!?!? I have to know!!!
For the love of god LowKo, a couple means two not 10. Stop saying couple when you mean a few.
that depends on the definition of couple and don't forget: the meaning of a word is it's use ;)
@@fritzwalter5781 up is not down, down is not up. Get out of here with your post modernist bullshit.
Every unit of zerg can be countered by ghost how pathethic blizzard
I have never seen a zerg making ultralisk while in a massive lead win a game
This is definitely one of the best games I've seen this year so far, Byun is always a fun player to watch!
Terran be like:
ghosts goess brrrrrrr
5 years and ghosts are still balanced Kappa
Game 1 is just a campaign level lol
0:28 "Likewise, ooghlghouuuh...".
Ghosts should get a nerf to their snipe ability. Either reduce its damage to sky units or make it a cool down + energy.
I like How It is a delete Button for zerg
Love your vidsss, right on time for breakfast!!
really, zerg late game sucks.