This kit is geared towards a person racing the TCS series. It ensures the racer will have a 100% legal car to compete. Also with your upcoming race take a look at the Ford GT body as it will provide more downforce than the Audi body.
One other thing worth mentioning about the SRX as compared to buying hop ups for the stock TT-02 is the fact that all the hop ups in the SRX are there IN THE BOX. It doesn't take long in the Tamiya side of this hobby to realize it's almost impossible to find all your hop ups available at the same time from the same retailer. Frankly, it usually very painful and frustrating when you're doing Tamiya hop up searches. It could literally take months and lots of different freight charges from different retailers at different times to collect your hop ups to complete a build. I look forward to your side by side comparison of these two TT-02 chassis, Gavin.
Some retailers have a pretty good selection, the problem is when adding a lot of hop ups it gets a little confusing with the manuals. A kit with one consistent manual certainly helps there.
Hey Gav, great video and very informative. You do a great job breaking it down and weighing your options as far as price point to see if it worth it. Great idea. I have to admit, I'm a bit intrigued with this one but am holding off for the moment. Maybe in the future perhaps... Be well...
I built one of my TT02’s to emulate the SR model since I couldn’t get one a couple years back due to the situation on planet earth. It’s got everything and it drives great! It blows away any stock tt02. All tamiya parts made it super expensive but I enjoyed every minute building and sourcing all the pieces. With the 419/420 suspension it handles like a dream. Ive got a boxed 420x still needing assembly so I’ll see how it compares.
As you and others have said, if you compare the price of the SRX to a standard TT02 and all the Tamiya hop-ups, it works out much cheaper. But for almost £330, it's a bit of a hard sell, I would definitely not buy one when I could get a 'Pro' level chassis for a similar price, even buying 2nd hand would be better than spending the money on this kit. Yeah, collectors will probably buy it, and that's fine. Great video as always!
I have that exact audi tt02. The one thing I like about the kit is being able to switch to a rally build which is what I did. It's a pretty simple kit and it's honestly not the greatest in the world but it's fun. Fun is what I wanted. The steering is a bit sloppy and the handling is less than ideal. I have some upgrades on mine such as aluminum oil shocks and hi speed gear etc. It's still fun to mess around with
I know it is now discontinued but I built a tb05r and that chassis is levels above the sec for $100 more. The 05r was definitely worth the cost as the options list was a mile long.
The first chassis I bought was TT-01 R (adjustable camber, metal shafts, full bearing, etc...) 16 years ago and it still only costed 70 dollors in Japan. It was really a good choice i made! On the other hand, this SRX is sure expensive and I would rather think it as TB series lol, but I guess still little too expensive for TB I believe if Tamiya still produced TB series, this wouldn't come out in the first place.
Thanks Gavin! TT02 in general is fine, but i have mine now on a rally setup with a nice rally chassis. This way it works for me. Spending any significant amount of money into a TT02 based chassis is what i would consider waste of money. On street or even for indoor racing, nahhh not something i would recommend. SRX for that amount of money - noooo way. I think the TA variants and (if pure street racing is not needed) the XV-01 or 02 are much better choices. Or if you really want a very basic setup, the TT01E is fine and there are some nice bodies that come in affordable kits on that "old" platform.
Ive had a TT01 a few years back. Looking at getting back into 1/10 touring cars. Ive been looking quite a bit and have decided to get a TT-02 Type S. Its a great spec with the hop ups that you want( TRF suspension arms, full bearing kit, metal drivshafts and knuckles and a full turnbuckle set to name a few). Ive ordered a alloy high torque servo saver, a Type S specific steering kit and alloy prop and knuckles, all Tamiya parts and ordered from RCJaz as it worked out roughly £30 cheaper, to build into when i order the chassis. Once I've ordered the chassis I'll be all in round the £180-200. (Depending on where i get the chassis and wether i can trade in my two nitro cars i want gone.....) Obvs body/wheels/electrics needed too but not included the cost of those as not included with TT-02R/SR/SRX. So on that a TT02 with all the stuff you want/need for £200 sounds like a pretty good deal.....
Thanks for sharing Gavin, I purchased mine with a lager cutting mat, total was $399.00 Canadian, I plan on racing the srx in a tt02 class, since I have 4 cars that use the same suspension it was worth it to me to get one, ta07 and the 2 trf420x I have all share the same parts, arms c hubs and steering knuckles, shocks I have regular trf big bore on the ta07. Kit on the 420x
If this is sort of a „final edition“, an ultimate TT-02 before maybe bringing out a different chassis then I don’t get why they don’t go full option but rather pull the hand brake again. I would’ve expected CFRP damper bridges instead of GRP, TRF big bores (as you already mentioned), aluminum motor mount and aluminun stearing assembly. That would‘ve been a really premium kit, but with these specs you‘ll get more for your money at other brands!
Yes I agree, a few more upgrades would have pushed this into being something special. The lack of steering, CF towers like you said and alloy motor mount and shocks all feel like missing upgrade parts.
@@RCKickschannel now Tamiya is rereleasing the TT-02 Type R which actually has the alloy motor mount in the box despite being a lower end kit. This is really random, seems like these releases are driven more by economics than anything else.
Certainly prefer my pair of TA-08s, partly because I prefer belt drives and also because I don‘t race at a club which runs any Tamiya classes. I see, online, that the SRX is available at £299.99 - still £20 more than the TA-08, considering they both need a motor, ESC and wheels/tyres - would be nice if the TA-08 came with a front spool though! Mind you, it takes some doing, trying to keep up with the rest of the Stock Touring field at my local club (28 entries yesterday afternoon…) when most are running XRays, Awesomatix etc - and I‘ve got a different toy to play with for our summer championship!
@@schuttrostig5729 The fibre-lyte carbon top deck does a good job of that but, obviously, not an option if your racing formula only allows Tamiya parts and hop-ups.
I often wonder what the thinking is behind some of the Tamiya chassis releases - especially with some of the more odd-ball designs, i'd love to be a fly on the wall during Tamiya board meetings! I built/reviewed the TB-05 Pro chassis, which seems to have gone very much un-noticed/by the wayside, being only available as a chassis kit. This 'ultimate' TT-02 for me makes more sense since the chassis in its standard form is well known for its good balance & handling for beginners. The upgrades chosen certainly lift the spec. up to the level of a more serious racer, front spool, proper oil filled rear diff, double carden driveshafts are all common features on top-flight touring car chassis. The upgrade to TRF420 arms & geometry will provide more of a significant improvement in handling & tunabilty than maybe given credit for. Its just a shame that at the price point at least threaded shocks were included.... even it they were still plastic (Xray used plastic threaded shocks on their 'sport' version of the T3 to good effect). Still seems a lot of money when you could easily buy a second hand, full-spec 'proper' touring car chassis with spares & extras for the same price.
Tamiya always perplexed me by having some cheap kits and then some super expensive ones. Also their upgrades are typically very expensive. I go standard with some yeah racing and 3racing upgrades. Type SRX is crazy.
I think the value in it is probably mostly for people racing in a tt02 class or the Tamiya Cup. I think it’s the ‘top stock’ class here that uses the tt02(and tt01) chassis, and obviously in a spec class, any advantage you can get will help.
And, "the big debate" begins. Those just getting into building will go for the much-cheaper TT-02, while collectors will get one (or two...build one, keep one sealed) of these as an 'investment'. As for the rest of us, some 'will', some 'won't', and the remainder will be "on the fence". 🤙🏼
Gotta agree there Gav, i think having the metal motor mount and some better shocks would make it more appealing. The only issue i can think of racing this in a TT-02 class is the different arms and hubs ? It may lead to it not being allowed to run ?
I'd be amazed if the TT02 was getting a final edition so soon - look how long the TT01 has hung around for! Case in point regarding that too - the special editions of the TT01 (R, D etc) they had more "bling" in the box and represented a real bargain Vs buying the bits separately. This SRX... not so much. I do wonder whether these prices are inflated due to the weak £ and the kit was always intended to be cheaper. Great video by the way. Gained a subscriber here!
In the UK we have a few issues that go against the RC prices. Brexit import costs have made bringing stuff into the UK more expensive as it’s now more complicated. Fuel prices and logistics prices are extremely high. The UK has an extra supply link in the chain Vs other countries like the US, Germany. We have Tamiya, Hobbyco, reseller and then customer. Germany as an example has, Tamiya, Tamico and then customer. That’s another full business that needs to make profit. All this adds to the final price and the English have become used to being ripped off for the most money per item. When you look at the US, wow the prices really are so much less now. If the channel was big enough, I would seriously think about a base in the US.
After revisiting this video, if tamiya added Aluminum steering, TRF dampers, and a carbon fiber battery hold down and aluminum turnbuckles, it would make the high price justified and worth it
I’m the guy who upgraded a stock tt02 to the spec of an SRX. It’s cheaper to buy a SR / SRX then upgrade. Cost wise there is easily £300 worth of upgrades in the SR and more in the SRX BUT they are missing the most important upgrade of the steering arms. The shimming / bolting mechanism of the plastic stock is a very poor option. I race tt02 and it needs alot to make it competitive. Easier to jump in with either an older TC or as stated a new TA08pro. Also. Known issue of bending the front double cardans with the locked diff. Switch to an oil diff with a 500k cst oil.
Yep I agree about the locked front diff. Fitting a normal diff and packing it with thick oil or ear plugs gives you 90% of a locked diff but enough give to protect the drive line fro a harsh jolt
Not only should it come with a blue motor mount, but upgraded steering bridge as well. I do like the FRP towers though. I turned a Type R into an SR and then some and was well over $400 after all said and done.
Pretty nuts. That comin from a guy who spent 1000s on tt01s for racing 24hrs. Enjoyed my time in england. Didnt see any rc in london but wasnt the focus for sure. Fly home 2mrw and at least there is a thundershot resto to finish. -U10
Hi Gavin, something you did not mention is that it looks likes like the kit comes with ball bearings and also hex screws. Are the hex screws titanium? Thoughts?
I mentioned bearings but yes, you are correct and I didn’t mention the hex screws in the kit. Everything is hex on this one but the screws are not titanium.
And as for the shimming and placements, was the parts bags not fully labeled so theres no question where everything went? I thought the one good thing about tamiya kits was how well they were labelled and coincided with the instruction manual for an easy fun build? Now i gotta buy a vernier caliper just to assemble it properly? Hard pass on letting my kids build one lol
TRF suspension is the biggest improvement. Stiffer arms make handling and turns mote sharper and precise. This is good for someone who does tt02 club racing and who wants to be the quickest. Otherwise.. don’t buy this, add $100-$200 more and just buy a second hand TRF416-TRF419 and seriously blow away the competition on race day 😅 Why don’t you build a TRF420X? You’ll love a full blown race car, worth every cent
@@RCKickschannel it would be awesome if you did! It’s a crazy machine, they made so many improvements, Tamiya really went above and beyond with it. It’s light weight, and super strong
Is it worth it? I Think the answer to this questions depends on the Club or type of racing that you do, if you Race TT-02 where all these mods are allowed then go for it, but if you race where they don't even allow to upgrade the long drive shaft then its not for you. Many races that I see on youtube with the TT-02 are very competitive and fun to watch and Race, the beauty of the TT-02 is in its simplicity, competitive design, and not stupidity expensive to start with and helps to grow the number of people involved in the hobby. IMO for that price, an SNRC pro can be bought for similar price and its a chassis that you can start on proper 1/10 touring Cars racing, but again..that type of racing can get expensive.
i have a tt-02 srx. its a great car but i recently fancied got sonething different and got an xv-02 rs pro. same price as an SRX and its totally different league
I've got the bog standard TT02 and the type S. The standard is a decent cheap car, but I'd never buy one new as there are tons of second hand ones with electrics at good prices. The type S is good as an entry point to racing but isn't quite competitive to keep up with the proper pedigree cars. There's plenty of mods on thr SRX that look shiny but don't really add anything over the type S. I'd rather get the type S and pick / choose the mods that I feel I need at the time and still be cheaper than the SRX. And my last point, if you're wanting to race and think the SRX is a wise choice I'd suggest getting a second hand Mi7 or Mi6, or X4, instead
Hi, I think if you are going to go racing it's a great car to buy as it's got all the bits plus a few extras in it, so I think it's good but not for your general build, 😊
Wow, the only way this TT-02 SRX makes sense is for TT racing classes that allow upgrades. I'm not aware of that anywhere. The appeal of TT race class is the cheaper price point and stock spec racing (bearings and race tires only mods). IMO anyone looking at SRX should skip it and get a TB or TA chassis instead.
The real case is just what you mentioned: If your on a race where its limited to TT-02 chassis but the SRX specs are within the allowed tuning then this might just be what you need. I guess they didnt add alloy shocks as most racers will aready have some alloy shocks and bolt them onto the new car. Really, i am a bit surprised they did not include alloy shocks, titan screws, carbon parts and that kind of stuff but then they probably want to earn money with the kit and can not sell it for eaven higher price as it already has. maybe we will see an TT-02 SR Pro as the next step, so people can buy an eaven better TT-02 next year ?
Is there a 100% box stock TT02 chassis anywhere in the world? We should gather together all the unused TT02 parts from the worlds RC community & make a shrine to reducing plastic waste!!!!
@@MrGoat73 well, i still have to do the body. 😂 I also have a project, where i want to build 3 or 4 identical TT-02 Motul GTRs with only the minimum required option parts. Just the stuff that is needed to make these cars run properly around my driveway track.
330 for a TT02. It's basically like a Carten T410, without the alu motor mount and without the tires. But with the Carten at 120, this isn't a hard sell, it's impossible.
Hey Gav, could you do a comparison to the srx vs the type-s as that would be interesting to compare them as the lower arms etc are similar to each other and that might be an easier way of converting/ upgrading to the srx
seems like if you want the better suspension, a regular type s with minimal hop ups is the way to go. otherwise you get into Xpress AT1S territory quickly. that said, I plan on getting 54886 and 3d printing the parts needed to attach them on my existing base model tt02 since I can't find a base type s cheap enough.
While I agree it is expensive (for a TT-02), I think you've kinda missed the point of it, its made for racing not bashing about on your drive like the standard TT-02. The kit provides a lot more setup adjustability and proper racing suspension and drivetrain. The previous version the Type-SR whilst being a little cheaper with older spec suspension was a quick racing car that could keep up with the 'pro spec' chassis that cost £500+. There are a lot of spec class racing series where they require a car with a tt-01/02 chassis tub and this is a turnkey solution for those. For instance you have the King of Clubs series here in the UK and other clubs like Stafford run similar spec classes. They are also very popular in the states, Europe and Asia where they still run Tamiya cup type events. If you gave a racer the standard tt-02 you've built then the srx with the same tyres and electronics the srx would be seconds faster. Yes you can get a TA-08 pro for cheaper in the UK but they aren't as robust (I know from experience chassis tub likes to strip very easily on impact) and won't be eligible for the classes mentioned above, same goes for other 'budget racing chassis' from other brands like Xpress.
Undecided about the SRX yet. Main selling point for the TT-02 for me is reliability, easy maintenance and easy to get spare parts. A high-performance version would be nice, then again the more of those parts are replaced and the less it has in common with a standard TT-02, the less those benefits still apply. And for me as a beginner (at least for the driving/setting up part) I wonder if I would ever need much more than say a TT-02R. As for club races, in the Dutch Tamiya cup the TT-02S, SR and very likely the SRX as well are forbidden in the TT-01/TT-02 class, so have to compete against TA-08 and the like anyway. Makes me wonder how easy a TA-08 is to keep running? I've heard it is fragile?
Yep a few people have mentioned that the local track runs TT02 classes but are limited to just a few upgrades and everything else is banned. That puts a few upgrade tt02 kits out in the cold like the SRX
People like the tt-02 for its simplicity and price point. Most tt-02 racing classes that I’ve seen only allow upgraded bearings, cvd’s, motor mount and steering rack. The SRX is nifty but definitely misses the mark for me!
unfortunate they didn't opt for a more offroad focussed TT02 variant (stock gets you 15mm of ground clearance...how are the lower arms and floor supposed to survive anything rough) but I guess it might then start to canibalize the XV-02 market which is just right out the box better for it (and about 200 bucks more expensive >.
I think the majority of the shims are based on the fact that this has adjustable wheelbase to fit more bodies. asphalt or Indoor club racing seems to be where this kit would shine.
I brought a tt02 not the basic version i bought all those parts and shims the most was the a-arms i did this long ago they had a site that showed me it wasnt that much those a-arms wasnt that much when it brought them but its always better to buy it package already but they didnt have this back then so we was buying the parts that shows you these companies be watching us benefiting from our ideas
They are not mad - this will sell like hot cakes to the TT0X die-hard fans who will buy it no matter what and find out that any 3 year-old xray T4 will run circles around them at the track... Keep in mind that some folks buy avantes, go race them, and then are surprised they are not competitive...
At this price. Im just going to purchase a yd2 🤷🏼♂️. Only. And i mean the SOLE Reason for tamiya as Chosen. Was budget Friendly price. Without that as influence. Im going a better route. Ie Yokomo. 💯🤷🏼♂️😇
sounds to me like no bells and all thistles of overpriced to build yourself hard plastic kits to me 🤔. Tamiya today are really getting overpriced for their hard plastic kits, in comparison to the likes of the RTR, LG RACING EMB-RA brushless, HoBao hyper GT and VT brushless, HPI WR8 FLUX 3 brushless , MAVERICK STRADA RX RALLY brushless, and even compared to my two overpriced KYOSHO CAMERO 69 Z28 VE brushless cars, which are also overpriced in comparison to the rest of the competition of my RC cars i purchased new buying two of each of every single RC car i purchased etc etc. I just cherry pick all my favourite and best top RTR RC car purchases from RC manufacturers lines only i have real interest in my purchases, which means the best of the best in every scale and price category from different RC car manufactures. I'm only interested in purchasing RC on road cars, and on road rally cars anyway .
I'm sorry, but you're being a bit dishonest. Yes, the TT02 TYPE-SRX is expensive, but it's _not_ an entry-level kit. It's a VERY heavily upgraded version of the TT02, and while it's hard to justify the cost when compared to full-on racing kits it DOES have every single factory option for the TT02 platform, barring ones specifically for the TT02B, included at a significantly lower price than it would cost to buy a base-level kit and all of those hop-ups separately. The market for this car is for die-hard Tamiya fans who want something a bit extra, not beginning builders.
It doesn't have Tamiya 54574 TT-02 Aluminum Racing Steering Set or Tamiya 54575 TT-02 Aluminum Steering Bridge, hell you don't even get Tamiya 53155 Low Friction Aluminium Dampers.
It's for all the TT-racing classes which allow modifications. I picked up my TT-02 type S 99€ and added CVDs in the front. If you compare it to Carten T410R, the SRX is a rip off. If the TA-08 pro is cheaper in your country or the same price it's also a no brainer in favor of the TA-08.
Everybody getting it will probably also buy the TRF shocks, the carbon shock towers and the alloy steering parts which is another 150€ total. Still rubs me the wrong way how we went from being able to upgrade to bearings in the steering on the TT01E back to those awful step screws on the TT02.
the cheapest TT02 i can find in HK is around $523 (Celica, body+chassis+motor+wheels), equal to approx 55 pound, price of SRX is around $1800 (approx 190 pound) sure i can upgrade this cheapest TT02 to level of SRX with a much lower price. actually there is no point to upgrade by usingTamiya option, there are so many choice for these option even with higher qualityr
I ignored the negative comments about this car, not buying another Tamiya after this one. Put me right off. I have quite a few Tamiya already so it's a sad day, RC wise.
In southern California with insomnia on my day off. Nothing better than catching a fresh upload from RC Kicks.
This kit is geared towards a person racing the TCS series. It ensures the racer will have a 100% legal car to compete. Also with your upcoming race take a look at the Ford GT body as it will provide more downforce than the Audi body.
Finally someone who understand...But i like the old nsx body
SRX isn’t legal for TCS in Prospec.
However they could do something with this chassis
Love this kit. I hope one day Tamiya will release a tt03 chassis with full optionals
Lets hope they fix the sloppy steering and suspension of the TT02
Nice, love it. I enjoyed when you did this for the Slash. Good vid. You guys keep upping your game. Low to see the chan grow.
One other thing worth mentioning about the SRX as compared to buying hop ups for the stock TT-02 is the fact that all the hop ups in the SRX are there IN THE BOX. It doesn't take long in the Tamiya side of this hobby to realize it's almost impossible to find all your hop ups available at the same time from the same retailer. Frankly, it usually very painful and frustrating when you're doing Tamiya hop up searches. It could literally take months and lots of different freight charges from different retailers at different times to collect your hop ups to complete a build.
I look forward to your side by side comparison of these two TT-02 chassis, Gavin.
Good point about trying to find parts. I will be taking them to the RXKicks meeting in a few weeks to put them on the track
Some retailers have a pretty good selection, the problem is when adding a lot of hop ups it gets a little confusing with the manuals. A kit with one consistent manual certainly helps there.
I always enjoy your reviews! Thanks!!
Hey Gav, great video and very informative. You do a great job breaking it down and weighing your options as far as price point to see if it worth it. Great idea. I have to admit, I'm a bit intrigued with this one but am holding off for the moment. Maybe in the future perhaps... Be well...
I built one of my TT02’s to emulate the SR model since I couldn’t get one a couple years back due to the situation on planet earth. It’s got everything and it drives great! It blows away any stock tt02. All tamiya parts made it super expensive but I enjoyed every minute building and sourcing all the pieces. With the 419/420 suspension it handles like a dream. Ive got a boxed 420x still needing assembly so I’ll see how it compares.
This is very interesting. Thanks for doing th comparison.
Happy Easter
Thanks for this. Im a tto2 fan.
As you and others have said, if you compare the price of the SRX to a standard TT02 and all the Tamiya hop-ups, it works out much cheaper. But for almost £330, it's a bit of a hard sell, I would definitely not buy one when I could get a 'Pro' level chassis for a similar price, even buying 2nd hand would be better than spending the money on this kit. Yeah, collectors will probably buy it, and that's fine. Great video as always!
Wonder when tamiya will bring an TA-09 that is parking lot capable...
It's $254 here in the USA, I definitely think it's a massive deal at that cost!
I have that exact audi tt02. The one thing I like about the kit is being able to switch to a rally build which is what I did. It's a pretty simple kit and it's honestly not the greatest in the world but it's fun. Fun is what I wanted. The steering is a bit sloppy and the handling is less than ideal. I have some upgrades on mine such as aluminum oil shocks and hi speed gear etc. It's still fun to mess around with
Great video. I got excited and ordered one from Japan. But I dont have a use for it haha. Id have liked better packaging but hey
Great video
This is an excellent comparison.
I know it is now discontinued but I built a tb05r and that chassis is levels above the sec for $100 more. The 05r was definitely worth the cost as the options list was a mile long.
Totally agree.
If you can compare the TT-02R and the TT-02 SRX would be amazing to see the value comparison
I don't have an R currently. I think the SR was a better option vs the SRX due to how much more it was but what little else you got over the SR
The first chassis I bought was TT-01 R (adjustable camber, metal shafts, full bearing, etc...) 16 years ago and it still only costed 70 dollors in Japan. It was really a good choice i made! On the other hand, this SRX is sure expensive and I would rather think it as TB series lol, but I guess still little too expensive for TB I believe if Tamiya still produced TB series, this wouldn't come out in the first place.
Thanks Gavin! TT02 in general is fine, but i have mine now on a rally setup with a nice rally chassis. This way it works for me.
Spending any significant amount of money into a TT02 based chassis is what i would consider waste of money.
On street or even for indoor racing, nahhh not something i would recommend. SRX for that amount of money - noooo way.
I think the TA variants and (if pure street racing is not needed) the XV-01 or 02 are much better choices.
Or if you really want a very basic setup, the TT01E is fine and there are some nice bodies that come in affordable kits on that "old" platform.
Some great points 👍🏻👍🏻
There’s something nice about playing with a built oil diff, like one of those fidget toys!!
LOL true. Same with shocks on a buggy.
Ive had a TT01 a few years back. Looking at getting back into 1/10 touring cars. Ive been looking quite a bit and have decided to get a TT-02 Type S. Its a great spec with the hop ups that you want( TRF suspension arms, full bearing kit, metal drivshafts and knuckles and a full turnbuckle set to name a few). Ive ordered a alloy high torque servo saver, a Type S specific steering kit and alloy prop and knuckles, all Tamiya parts and ordered from RCJaz as it worked out roughly £30 cheaper, to build into when i order the chassis. Once I've ordered the chassis I'll be all in round the £180-200. (Depending on where i get the chassis and wether i can trade in my two nitro cars i want gone.....) Obvs body/wheels/electrics needed too but not included the cost of those as not included with TT-02R/SR/SRX. So on that a TT02 with all the stuff you want/need for £200 sounds like a pretty good deal.....
Thanks for sharing Gavin, I purchased mine with a lager cutting mat, total was $399.00 Canadian, I plan on racing the srx in a tt02 class, since I have 4 cars that use the same suspension it was worth it to me to get one, ta07 and the 2 trf420x I have all share the same parts, arms c hubs and steering knuckles, shocks I have regular trf big bore on the ta07. Kit on the 420x
Aaron!!! It's adam xD
If this is sort of a „final edition“, an ultimate TT-02 before maybe bringing out a different chassis then I don’t get why they don’t go full option but rather pull the hand brake again. I would’ve expected CFRP damper bridges instead of GRP, TRF big bores (as you already mentioned), aluminum motor mount and aluminun stearing assembly. That would‘ve been a really premium kit, but with these specs you‘ll get more for your money at other brands!
Yes I agree, a few more upgrades would have pushed this into being something special. The lack of steering, CF towers like you said and alloy motor mount and shocks all feel like missing upgrade parts.
@@RCKickschannel now Tamiya is rereleasing the TT-02 Type R which actually has the alloy motor mount in the box despite being a lower end kit. This is really random, seems like these releases are driven more by economics than anything else.
Certainly prefer my pair of TA-08s, partly because I prefer belt drives and also because I don‘t race at a club which runs any Tamiya classes.
I see, online, that the SRX is available at £299.99 - still £20 more than the TA-08, considering they both need a motor, ESC and wheels/tyres - would be nice if the TA-08 came with a front spool though!
Mind you, it takes some doing, trying to keep up with the rest of the Stock Touring field at my local club (28 entries yesterday afternoon…) when most are running XRays, Awesomatix etc - and I‘ve got a different toy to play with for our summer championship!
It’s a big ask going up against XRAYS with a TA08 or TT02
Id like a TA08 with fully coverd belts. Simple light lexan cover would do it.
@@schuttrostig5729 The fibre-lyte carbon top deck does a good job of that but, obviously, not an option if your racing formula only allows Tamiya parts and hop-ups.
I often wonder what the thinking is behind some of the Tamiya chassis releases - especially with some of the more odd-ball designs, i'd love to be a fly on the wall during Tamiya board meetings! I built/reviewed the TB-05 Pro chassis, which seems to have gone very much un-noticed/by the wayside, being only available as a chassis kit. This 'ultimate' TT-02 for me makes more sense since the chassis in its standard form is well known for its good balance & handling for beginners. The upgrades chosen certainly lift the spec. up to the level of a more serious racer, front spool, proper oil filled rear diff, double carden driveshafts are all common features on top-flight touring car chassis. The upgrade to TRF420 arms & geometry will provide more of a significant improvement in handling & tunabilty than maybe given credit for. Its just a shame that at the price point at least threaded shocks were included.... even it they were still plastic (Xray used plastic threaded shocks on their 'sport' version of the T3 to good effect). Still seems a lot of money when you could easily buy a second hand, full-spec 'proper' touring car chassis with spares & extras for the same price.
Some great points Daniel
I would love to see it comparison to the tt02 one types s and the srx
Tamiya always perplexed me by having some cheap kits and then some super expensive ones. Also their upgrades are typically very expensive. I go standard with some yeah racing and 3racing upgrades. Type SRX is crazy.
@@joeschmo6834 get a better job.
You've written " prive " instead of PRICE !!! 🤣 It messed with my OCD.
excellent video 💯👍🏻
My bad
Gavin 😊 I’m in shock, have you actually put a brushless motor in the srx 😉❤️
Yep it’s the one from you.
@@RCKickschannel hahaha ❤️ I am so happy to something else than a silver can 😂❤️❣️ happy easter Gav 😊
I think the value in it is probably mostly for people racing in a tt02 class or the Tamiya Cup. I think it’s the ‘top stock’ class here that uses the tt02(and tt01) chassis, and obviously in a spec class, any advantage you can get will help.
And, "the big debate" begins. Those just getting into building will go for the much-cheaper TT-02, while collectors will get one (or two...build one, keep one sealed) of these as an 'investment'. As for the rest of us, some 'will', some 'won't', and the remainder will be "on the fence". 🤙🏼
So far a couple more hopups than the tt-02 type S. They seemed to fix the play on the a arms.
I got mine for $251 USD, should arrive tomorrow with a Toyota Supra body. I'm so excited.
Gotta agree there Gav, i think having the metal motor mount and some better shocks would make it more appealing. The only issue i can think of racing this in a TT-02 class is the different arms and hubs ? It may lead to it not being allowed to run ?
I'd be amazed if the TT02 was getting a final edition so soon - look how long the TT01 has hung around for! Case in point regarding that too - the special editions of the TT01 (R, D etc) they had more "bling" in the box and represented a real bargain Vs buying the bits separately. This SRX... not so much.
I do wonder whether these prices are inflated due to the weak £ and the kit was always intended to be cheaper.
Great video by the way. Gained a subscriber here!
In the UK we have a few issues that go against the RC prices. Brexit import costs have made bringing stuff into the UK more expensive as it’s now more complicated. Fuel prices and logistics prices are extremely high. The UK has an extra supply link in the chain Vs other countries like the US, Germany. We have Tamiya, Hobbyco, reseller and then customer. Germany as an example has, Tamiya, Tamico and then customer. That’s another full business that needs to make profit. All this adds to the final price and the English have become used to being ripped off for the most money per item. When you look at the US, wow the prices really are so much less now. If the channel was big enough, I would seriously think about a base in the US.
After revisiting this video, if tamiya added Aluminum steering, TRF dampers, and a carbon fiber battery hold down and aluminum turnbuckles, it would make the high price justified and worth it
Yep I would agree with that.
I have just got the srx and I think it is a nice chassis compared to the stock Tt02. Definitely takes a little more time to build but still fun.
100%, so many shims to fit correctly lol.
I've got the previous TT02SR for the collection. Was going to bring to your race meet end of April. Be interesting to see the differences to the SRX.
What accu shells do you use in your audi tamiya?
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I’m the guy who upgraded a stock tt02 to the spec of an SRX.
It’s cheaper to buy a SR / SRX then upgrade.
Cost wise there is easily £300 worth of upgrades in the SR and more in the SRX BUT they are missing the most important upgrade of the steering arms. The shimming / bolting mechanism of the plastic stock is a very poor option.
I race tt02 and it needs alot to make it competitive. Easier to jump in with either an older TC or as stated a new TA08pro.
Also. Known issue of bending the front double cardans with the locked diff. Switch to an oil diff with a 500k cst oil.
Yep I agree about the locked front diff. Fitting a normal diff and packing it with thick oil or ear plugs gives you 90% of a locked diff but enough give to protect the drive line fro a harsh jolt
Not only should it come with a blue motor mount, but upgraded steering bridge as well. I do like the FRP towers though. I turned a Type R into an SR and then some and was well over $400 after all said and done.
Yep it’s super easy to be into anTT02 for $400+
Pretty nuts. That comin from a guy who spent 1000s on tt01s for racing 24hrs. Enjoyed my time in england. Didnt see any rc in london but wasnt the focus for sure. Fly home 2mrw and at least there is a thundershot resto to finish. -U10
I wouldn’t be surprised if some parts have to come off for Tamiya TCS rules.
That’s a good point if the TT02 class at your local track is stricken on upgrades.
Safe travels, I hope you hand a nice time while visiting?
so this TT02 Type-SRX is all covered tamiya upgrade parts? which is not included? i'm new on RC.
The steering upgrade is missing as well as no alloy shocks
The TT02-SRX seems the perfect chassis to match with the Porsche 911 GT-3 which is 251mm. I'll be going for the SRX. Is the TA08pro 251mm?
The xpress arrow at1s is a better option in my opinion, way cheaper and at the same performance level.
ua-cam.com/video/0eqTBA9MJ_k/v-deo.html I like mine very much.
Hi Gavin, something you did not mention is that it looks likes like the kit comes with ball bearings and also hex screws. Are the hex screws titanium? Thoughts?
I mentioned bearings but yes, you are correct and I didn’t mention the hex screws in the kit. Everything is hex on this one but the screws are not titanium.
Thinking to get a touring car as my track has both carpet offroad and onroad 😂
So if i want to get a TT02 but not the basic one, nore the srx, what is the best option. Just for on the street. The s or sr maybe ?
TT02 SR would be worth a look.
I just ordered a TT-02R.
The front arms are used on the type S. Also you failed to mention another BIG difference is all hex hardware.
And as for the shimming and placements, was the parts bags not fully labeled so theres no question where everything went? I thought the one good thing about tamiya kits was how well they were labelled and coincided with the instruction manual for an easy fun build? Now i gotta buy a vernier caliper just to assemble it properly? Hard pass on letting my kids build one lol
It’s just a R type with a special composite chassis, I picked the TT-02R
I would recommend using the cheap kit and upgrade it with the yeah racing kit. Under 300. I love the one I did.
What body did you put in that srx?
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TRF suspension is the biggest improvement. Stiffer arms make handling and turns mote sharper and precise.
This is good for someone who does tt02 club racing and who wants to be the quickest.
Otherwise.. don’t buy this, add $100-$200 more and just buy a second hand TRF416-TRF419 and seriously blow away the competition on race day 😅
Why don’t you build a TRF420X? You’ll love a full blown race car, worth every cent
Yep I would love to get my hands on a TRF-420X
@@RCKickschannel it would be awesome if you did! It’s a crazy machine, they made so many improvements, Tamiya really went above and beyond with it. It’s light weight, and super strong
ask bruh, 22046 are pnp to basic TT02? if yes what different with locking system on the front?
Is it worth it? I Think the answer to this questions depends on the Club or type of racing that you do, if you Race TT-02 where all these mods are allowed then go for it, but if you race where they don't even allow to upgrade the long drive shaft then its not for you. Many races that I see on youtube with the TT-02 are very competitive and fun to watch and Race, the beauty of the TT-02 is in its simplicity, competitive design, and not stupidity expensive to start with and helps to grow the number of people involved in the hobby. IMO for that price, an SNRC pro can be bought for similar price and its a chassis that you can start on proper 1/10 touring Cars racing, but again..that type of racing can get expensive.
Hang on. Lemme get a fresh buttered hot cross bun and a cup of tea. Right. GO!
i have a tt-02 srx. its a great car but i recently fancied got sonething different and got an xv-02 rs pro. same price as an SRX and its totally different league
Does anyone know if this is the same plastic chassis that's in a TT02BR?
I've got the bog standard TT02 and the type S.
The standard is a decent cheap car, but I'd never buy one new as there are tons of second hand ones with electrics at good prices.
The type S is good as an entry point to racing but isn't quite competitive to keep up with the proper pedigree cars.
There's plenty of mods on thr SRX that look shiny but don't really add anything over the type S. I'd rather get the type S and pick / choose the mods that I feel I need at the time and still be cheaper than the SRX. And my last point, if you're wanting to race and think the SRX is a wise choice I'd suggest getting a second hand Mi7 or Mi6, or X4, instead
Hi, I think if you are going to go racing it's a great car to buy as it's got all the bits plus a few extras in it, so I think it's good but not for your general build, 😊
Wow, the only way this TT-02 SRX makes sense is for TT racing classes that allow upgrades. I'm not aware of that anywhere. The appeal of TT race class is the cheaper price point and stock spec racing (bearings and race tires only mods). IMO anyone looking at SRX should skip it and get a TB or TA chassis instead.
The real case is just what you mentioned: If your on a race where its limited to TT-02 chassis but the SRX specs are within the allowed tuning then this might just be what you need. I guess they didnt add alloy shocks as most racers will aready have some alloy shocks and bolt them onto the new car. Really, i am a bit surprised they did not include alloy shocks, titan screws, carbon parts and that kind of stuff but then they probably want to earn money with the kit and can not sell it for eaven higher price as it already has. maybe we will see an TT-02 SR Pro as the next step, so people can buy an eaven better TT-02 next year ?
Is there a 100% box stock TT02 chassis anywhere in the world? We should gather together all the unused TT02 parts from the worlds RC community & make a shrine to reducing plastic waste!!!!
LOL, so true
Yes, i built a Yaris WRC chassis 100% box stock. It's just going to be one for the collection, not for the ride.
@@GeeShocker So you’re the one! Hope to hear about more 😊
@@MrGoat73 well, i still have to do the body. 😂
I also have a project, where i want to build 3 or 4 identical TT-02 Motul GTRs with only the minimum required option parts. Just the stuff that is needed to make these cars run properly around my driveway track.
So, built it myself and the srx is a bullet on the track
My only thing is why would I pick the SRX over the R kit? That's the question I've been having
This is no way worth £200 more than the standard kit
The wheels r from a porsche carrera gt 👍😀👌
330 for a TT02. It's basically like a Carten T410, without the alu motor mount and without the tires. But with the Carten at 120, this isn't a hard sell, it's impossible.
Hey Gav, could you do a comparison to the srx vs the type-s as that would be interesting to compare them as the lower arms etc are similar to each other and that might be an easier way of converting/ upgrading to the srx
in Hong Kong TT02 type SRX is only HK$1900 (195pound)
However, typical TT02 in Hong Kong (with body, ESC, motor, tire) only cost around HK$500 -$600
seems like if you want the better suspension, a regular type s with minimal hop ups is the way to go. otherwise you get into Xpress AT1S territory quickly.
that said, I plan on getting 54886 and 3d printing the parts needed to attach them on my existing base model tt02 since I can't find a base type s cheap enough.
While I agree it is expensive (for a TT-02), I think you've kinda missed the point of it, its made for racing not bashing about on your drive like the standard TT-02. The kit provides a lot more setup adjustability and proper racing suspension and drivetrain. The previous version the Type-SR whilst being a little cheaper with older spec suspension was a quick racing car that could keep up with the 'pro spec' chassis that cost £500+.
There are a lot of spec class racing series where they require a car with a tt-01/02 chassis tub and this is a turnkey solution for those. For instance you have the King of Clubs series here in the UK and other clubs like Stafford run similar spec classes. They are also very popular in the states, Europe and Asia where they still run Tamiya cup type events. If you gave a racer the standard tt-02 you've built then the srx with the same tyres and electronics the srx would be seconds faster.
Yes you can get a TA-08 pro for cheaper in the UK but they aren't as robust (I know from experience chassis tub likes to strip very easily on impact) and won't be eligible for the classes mentioned above, same goes for other 'budget racing chassis' from other brands like Xpress.
Undecided about the SRX yet. Main selling point for the TT-02 for me is reliability, easy maintenance and easy to get spare parts. A high-performance version would be nice, then again the more of those parts are replaced and the less it has in common with a standard TT-02, the less those benefits still apply. And for me as a beginner (at least for the driving/setting up part) I wonder if I would ever need much more than say a TT-02R.
As for club races, in the Dutch Tamiya cup the TT-02S, SR and very likely the SRX as well are forbidden in the TT-01/TT-02 class, so have to compete against TA-08 and the like anyway. Makes me wonder how easy a TA-08 is to keep running? I've heard it is fragile?
Yep a few people have mentioned that the local track runs TT02 classes but are limited to just a few upgrades and everything else is banned. That puts a few upgrade tt02 kits out in the cold like the SRX
People like the tt-02 for its simplicity and price point. Most tt-02 racing classes that I’ve seen only allow upgraded bearings, cvd’s, motor mount and steering rack. The SRX is nifty but definitely misses the mark for me!
unfortunate they didn't opt for a more offroad focussed TT02 variant (stock gets you 15mm of ground clearance...how are the lower arms and floor supposed to survive anything rough) but I guess it might then start to canibalize the XV-02 market which is just right out the box better for it (and about 200 bucks more expensive >.
It really needs trf shocks to make it worthwhile.
100%!
I think the majority of the shims are based on the fact that this has adjustable wheelbase to fit more bodies. asphalt or Indoor club racing seems to be where this kit would shine.
New to the whole hobby😅, what is a shim?
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Kind of like a washer, but thinner to allow for fine adjustments of spacing.
I brought a tt02 not the basic version i bought all those parts and shims the most was the a-arms i did this long ago they had a site that showed me it wasnt that much those a-arms wasnt that much when it brought them but its always better to buy it package already but they didnt have this back then so we was buying the parts that shows you these companies be watching us benefiting from our ideas
Whoa expensive! It is the equivalent of about 200 pounds here in Canada...$330 CDN
Not spec'd with alloy shocks though
Nope!
They are not mad - this will sell like hot cakes to the TT0X die-hard fans who will buy it no matter what and find out that any 3 year-old xray T4 will run circles around them at the track... Keep in mind that some folks buy avantes, go race them, and then are surprised they are not competitive...
Luv tamiya some people just don't get it and thats ok
At this price. Im just going to purchase a yd2 🤷🏼♂️. Only. And i mean the SOLE Reason for tamiya as Chosen. Was budget Friendly price. Without that as influence. Im going a better route. Ie Yokomo. 💯🤷🏼♂️😇
sounds to me like no bells and all thistles of overpriced to build yourself hard plastic kits to me 🤔. Tamiya today are really getting overpriced for their hard plastic kits, in comparison to the likes of the RTR, LG RACING EMB-RA brushless, HoBao hyper GT and VT brushless, HPI WR8 FLUX 3 brushless , MAVERICK STRADA RX RALLY brushless, and even compared to my two overpriced KYOSHO CAMERO 69 Z28 VE brushless cars, which are also overpriced in comparison to the rest of the competition of my RC cars i purchased new buying two of each of every single RC car i purchased etc etc. I just cherry pick all my favourite and best top RTR RC car purchases from RC manufacturers lines only i have real interest in my purchases, which means the best of the best in every scale and price category from different RC car manufactures. I'm only interested in purchasing RC on road cars, and on road rally cars anyway .
Totally agree , Tamiya keep re inventing the same old chassis , adding a few bits and pieces and asking outrageous money for them.
I prefer my TA-08pro, it's cheaper as well.
Yep, thats a big sticking point for me to really recommend the SRX, the TA-08 Pro is really nice.
I'm sorry, but you're being a bit dishonest. Yes, the TT02 TYPE-SRX is expensive, but it's _not_ an entry-level kit. It's a VERY heavily upgraded version of the TT02, and while it's hard to justify the cost when compared to full-on racing kits it DOES have every single factory option for the TT02 platform, barring ones specifically for the TT02B, included at a significantly lower price than it would cost to buy a base-level kit and all of those hop-ups separately. The market for this car is for die-hard Tamiya fans who want something a bit extra, not beginning builders.
It doesn't have Tamiya 54574 TT-02 Aluminum Racing Steering Set or Tamiya 54575 TT-02 Aluminum Steering Bridge, hell you don't even get Tamiya 53155 Low Friction Aluminium Dampers.
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So then it's missing a few hop-ups. That still doesn't make it "entry level".
It's for all the TT-racing classes which allow modifications.
I picked up my TT-02 type S 99€ and added CVDs in the front.
If you compare it to Carten T410R, the SRX is a rip off.
If the TA-08 pro is cheaper in your country or the same price it's also a no brainer in favor of the TA-08.
Everybody getting it will probably also buy the TRF shocks, the carbon shock towers and the alloy steering parts which is another 150€ total. Still rubs me the wrong way how we went from being able to upgrade to bearings in the steering on the TT01E back to those awful step screws on the TT02.
This is to go racing tt02 spec. Otherwise, you are better off buying ta07 pro, as ta08 pro is a bit brittle
Those are Porsche Carrera GT wheels...
Nice one 👍🏻
You have me interested at arms
the cheapest TT02 i can find in HK is around $523 (Celica, body+chassis+motor+wheels), equal to approx 55 pound, price of SRX is around $1800 (approx 190 pound) sure i can upgrade this cheapest TT02 to level of SRX with a much lower price. actually there is no point to upgrade by usingTamiya option, there are so many choice for these option even with higher qualityr
I ignored the negative comments about this car,
not buying another Tamiya after this one. Put me right off. I have quite a few Tamiya already so it's a sad day, RC wise.
I think the TT02R would be the better buy and why is everything so expensive in England here in Asia Tamiya is way cheaper.
The SRX looks 10x better than the stock TT-02. Especially the drive-line. The stock front suspension with all plastic joints make me nauseous.
So: the TA08 is better in every way, more features, better build, etc. and costs less... whats the point of the SRX?
In Japan the SRX was really good value so it make more sense but in the UK, nope!
Much cheaper in the states.... about $220.
You can say that about everything these days. The UK has gone nuts for prices on just about everything but the wages are about 10 years behind now
TT02 type s, gets you 80% there for 50% cost
Totally agree , and I got my type S for 100 bucks brand new few years ago. 😉