Why Do We Love The Locust IIC?

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  • Опубліковано 10 лис 2024

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  • @bthsr7113
    @bthsr7113 Рік тому +60

    Many players first see the Locust as the bug mech of pirates. A weak little thing to squish. But it's a design that drastically depends on the pilot. Keeping it around and giving it new life was a good call by Clan Mongoose.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому +9

      Zoomies are love. Zoomies are life.

    • @bthsr7113
      @bthsr7113 Рік тому +8

      @@MechanicalFrog For the right pilots, Zoomies are victory.

    • @NeroLordofChaos
      @NeroLordofChaos Рік тому +4

      Few things are more hilarious than pulling up with a pimped out locust and stripping the rear armor off a heavy/assault...other than coring them with that is!

  • @Kepora1
    @Kepora1 Рік тому +23

    "Clan mongoose"
    Me: yay, mongoose are nea-
    "Absorbed by smoke jaguar"
    Me: :'(

  • @scottmm78
    @scottmm78 Рік тому +37

    Love the little WWI historical references Henry Tandey and Gavrilo Princip

  • @greysonjones5429
    @greysonjones5429 Рік тому +15

    Me on my way to learning why I love a mech I know nothing about and it becoming one of my new favorites:

  • @MrDmitriRavenoff
    @MrDmitriRavenoff Рік тому +33

    I love almost any clan mech that runs a standard engine. It keeps the BV down and keeps them durable. I'd love to see a video on the Stalking Spider. Maybe just one on all kinds of Quads.

    • @ThelemicPotter
      @ThelemicPotter Рік тому +5

      The C and IIC refits are some of the best 'mechs in the game. They get ridiculously good in Alpha Strike, can't wait for my KS Binary next year.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому +3

      Absolutely. Quad video is a maybe. Stalking Spider, more likely.

    • @bthsr7113
      @bthsr7113 Рік тому +2

      My favorite Quad is the Thunder Stallion.

    • @MrDmitriRavenoff
      @MrDmitriRavenoff Рік тому +2

      @@bthsr7113 Fire Stallion Variant is pretty awesome. The lb20x with ammo in the two worst spots kinda scares me in the base model.

    • @bthsr7113
      @bthsr7113 Рік тому

      @@MrDmitriRavenoff Twin clan large pulse is nice. Also it keeps the mech from being entirely ammo reliant.

  • @Star-qc4br
    @Star-qc4br Рік тому +7

    I love ANYTHING and EVERYTHING that is "2C"! I always felt that it was a good idea to practice using a Locust or some other light mech. If you can get good with "less" then it can only hone and improve your skills for when you have "more".

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому +2

      I have a uniquely high level of respect for locust mechwarriors. You have to have nerves of steel.

    • @Star-qc4br
      @Star-qc4br Рік тому +3

      @@MechanicalFrog AGREED! There's no "middle ground" in a Locust or any other light mech. Those pilot's will find out if their skills pass muster for any given combat situation rather quickly.

  • @A88mph
    @A88mph Рік тому +11

    One of the first Clan battles I played, where I built the star from the ground up, included a Locust IIC. Although the main reason I did so was because it was the best, last, unit I could fit in with the BV limit of the battle.
    I won that game.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому +5

      Good times had by all... Always nice when the "What can I fit in?" mech ends up helping.

  • @HeadHunterSix
    @HeadHunterSix Рік тому +6

    Fast. Tons of point-blank damage. No ammo. Heat neutral. Inexpensive.
    Ideally configured for its intended purpose, with no unnecessary attempts at doing anything else "a bit".
    The engineers that designed this should have made the Shadow Hawk, because that's the _opposite_ of a Locust IIC.

  • @Yacovo
    @Yacovo Рік тому +6

    Thanks for the video. Glory of the Light Mech Charge!

  • @Vulpine407
    @Vulpine407 Рік тому +3

    My one rule of light (and to a lesser extent medium) 'mechs is that they must NOT carry ammo. You simply do not carry enough armor to make it worthwhile. Sure it is very hard to target a Locust when it is sprinting 9+ hexes per turn. But just one hit in the wrong spot by anything heavier than a medium laser or AC/5 pretty much spells the end (unless you ran out of ammo.) That's why I love Locust variants that concentrate totally on lasers. As long as you don't lose a leg, your 'mech can be shot to pieces and still be fighting. A good low-tech example is the Capellan's LCT-1E with two medium lasers and two small lasers. Heat build-up could become an issue, but this was usually handled by the mechwarriors making high-speed passing runs at their targets, firing all weapons, then looping around for another go while letting their heat bleed-off.
    Also, the clans need a clan Frog. I would totally support this becoming official lore.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому +2

      Thankfully, Clan mechs have CASE by default. Saving grace.
      Clan Hoppy Frog is resurgent.

  • @bthsr7113
    @bthsr7113 Рік тому +2

    That is a very soothing if somewhat melancholic background music.

  • @TekkaSage
    @TekkaSage Рік тому +2

    Locust is my favorite light mech in MWO. I have it painted in a pirate theme. I've taken out tons of assault mechs from behind with it for being such a hard hitting speed demon flanking and scouting. I am also a welcome support mech to protect the flank of my assault friends from enemy mechs. Really a very fun mech that requires a lot of skill to pilot if you're into fast dog fights than standing across from each other and firing from cover.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому

      It's feisty and has the zoomies. That's for sure.

  • @sim.frischh9781
    @sim.frischh9781 Рік тому +10

    As an Austrian i feel that historical reference.
    The paintjob on the models looks nice, but i noticed those are the old models.
    It´s already impressive that you still got your hands on those.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому +5

      They were sitting in my old mech box for ~30 years waiting for this video.

    • @sim.frischh9781
      @sim.frischh9781 Рік тому +3

      @@MechanicalFrog Ah, yes, old models not yet painted. For years. MANY years.
      I know one or two boxes for those i have myself... like the beginning of my Warhammer Fantasy Chaos Warriors army... for over 20 years...

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому +2

      Just waiting for their 15 minutes of fame.

    • @sim.frischh9781
      @sim.frischh9781 Рік тому +1

      @@MechanicalFrog Since i don´t do miniature painting on UA-cam, that´s not very likely to ever happen.

  • @meining-mech4378
    @meining-mech4378 Рік тому +6

    I have never ran a Locust IIC in a game, But I would like to eventually. I used to have two of the old VMI-style sculpt Locust IICs along will all of the other 3055 unseen. I would say the Phoenix Project sculpt looks great too. Ultimately, I am greatly looking forward to the new mini by Catalyst.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому +2

      The OG Ral Partha sculpts are beautiful. I'm glad I kept them in a box for almost 30 years.

  • @yecnay25
    @yecnay25 Рік тому +18

    Love the Locusts as a whole from the LCT-1C to the Locust II. Well maybe not the 1M. It blows up too fast.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому +4

      The 1M is... a thing.

    • @yecnay25
      @yecnay25 Рік тому +4

      @@MechanicalFrog the 1M and the Shadowhawk 2D show House Davion should not be allowed to design things without CASE.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому +3

      House rule a blast proximity for ammo explosions so you can turn mechs like that into Kamikaze.

    • @THEGRUMPTRUCK
      @THEGRUMPTRUCK 6 місяців тому +2

      The 1M has this really cool feature where the moment you pilot it, it prints your obituary in the nearest newspaper for future reference.

  • @Geeko170
    @Geeko170 Рік тому +6

    I have seen a Locust 2C7 paint a building with an infantry platoon. Ran up turned then to paste and the went on to bully a Kit Fox V. My Arrow 4 turned it into paste, though I may have caught some back blast. It happens when you point black artillery.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому +2

      It did it's job and then shuffled the mortal coil...

  • @battlespace13
    @battlespace13 Рік тому +4

    The Locust IIC 8 is what the Hussar dreams it was.

  • @wraith7989
    @wraith7989 Рік тому +3

    These thins have always looked like baby Marauders to me.

  • @Ironclockwork
    @Ironclockwork Рік тому +4

    *Reads the quote from Branson Yi*
    ...Who the heck is this man speaking heresy from the heart of Assault-class memes?

  • @lordmalal
    @lordmalal Рік тому +5

    Exciting to get all these great IIC mechs in plastic sometime next year.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому +1

      Can't wait!. I doubled up on the boxes in my pledge.

  • @haileysaint5443
    @haileysaint5443 Рік тому +1

    The Locust IIC 4 and 6 are the variants that appeal the most to me, with the standard Locust IIC a close second. If it weren't for the taint of being a Clan Wolf design, the Locust IIC 10 would be on the list.
    I created a variant a while back, which I'd called the Locust IIC Mighty Mouse. Its sole weapon is an ER PPC, with 6 Jump Jets added.
    I nevertheless created a variant after watching this video. I used the standard Locust IIC as a base and upgraded the engine to an equivalent XL version, which freed up 4 tons, one of which was used to boost the Ferro-Fibrous armor to a max of 5 tons. In keeping with my usual method, the Locust IIC ISM adds in a partial-wing along with 6 jump jets, after dropping the 4 ER Small Lasers while retaining the Medium Pulse. The 2.5 tons I was left with were used to mount a pair of ER Medium Lasers and a pair of ER Micro Lasers.

  • @EdmondHiggins
    @EdmondHiggins Місяць тому +1

    The Locust IIC 7 is a MONSTER.
    The AP Gauss is a slept on weapon.
    Anyone reading this, please try the thing on the table. (classic BT)
    The mechs look good, for a clanner.

  • @matthewbro3
    @matthewbro3 Рік тому +2

    I was lucky enough to pick up the new CGL plastic Locust IIC model in a giveaway at the UK launch event for the Battletech Mercenaries kickstarter campaign, and I have to say it looks great. Given that I brought my Nova Cat Alpha Galaxy to that event, it seems fitting that I paint it in those colors.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому

      Nova Cat has some great paint schemes if you want to go official.

    • @matthewbro3
      @matthewbro3 Рік тому +1

      @@MechanicalFrog Out of curiosity, which one is your favorite Nova Cat paint scheme? I'm currently painting them up as Alpha Galaxy, like I said, which has a really cool blue field of stars pattern. Aside from them and Xi Provisional Galaxy, most of the rest seem to prefer mission appropriate camouflage according to CamoSpecs. Is that still up to date, or have some of the other Galaxies been given parade colors?

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому

      The Xi Provisional is what springs to mind. And for some reason I was thinking of Clan Cloud Cobra's Gamma Galaxy which is black with gold and blue highlights.

  • @mikegould6590
    @mikegould6590 7 місяців тому +1

    As a Light Mech specialist, the Locust IIC is on my list of WANTS for minis. I've had great success with the Locust 1E, and the IIC is, well, "more 1E than the 1E", so to speak.
    Knowing there's an official Hell's Horses variant means acquiring this is a MUST.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  7 місяців тому

      The classic Ral Partha Locust IIC is a pain to put together but a beauty once it's done.

    • @mikegould6590
      @mikegould6590 7 місяців тому

      ​@@MechanicalFrog Assembling metal minis is my bane. Prefer plastics and 3D prints

  • @Bluehairedgirl89
    @Bluehairedgirl89 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for the effort you put into this video! I enjoyed it quite a bit, the IIC mechs never seemed to get focused on much but are really cool.

  • @harvestblades
    @harvestblades Рік тому +1

    Now that I'm playing Classic I see how speed is life especially for a light mech. IMO a light mech needs either immense range, or to be a more versatile unit plenty of speed & pulse weapons and or a targeting computer. With enough speed even multiple SPL can ruin the big stompy guys' day & is great against Infantry or other fast movers, but the key is reliable being able to actually hit the enemy while using your speed to stay alive. I have really enjoyed using the little fellas & heating up enemy units while whittling them down & getting in their rear arc or even making the enemy decide whether the lights are a great enough risk to engage whike leaving my other units time to maneuver and or fire.
    Also Frog I started listening to the Green Bird trilogy & wow the first half of book 1 talks more about "aggressive coupling" then mechs which I'm sure made a bunch of pre-teen boys (& a few creepy old ones) really excited in '91. It's the first novel from the Clan perspective so I was cirious to see how they handle it. For me the jury is still out, but I still have two & a half books to get through. Regardless, it's an important series so I look forward to finishing it so thanks for the recommendation.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому

      I think the BT books handle the spicy stuff pretty well in comparison to a lot of the schlock that was produced in the late 80s and early 90s. I remember consuming the WINGMAN books back in the day and felt like I was getting away with something with all the descriptions of Hawk Hunter's perpetually kidnapped girlfriend.
      As far as the Locust IIC and all light mechs go, hitting that 12 hex movement is love, it is life.

  • @DDVargas1983
    @DDVargas1983 Рік тому +1

    Welp, you twisted my arm. Now I'm going to start a Clan army with the Locust IIC as the star of the show.

  • @MichaelMiller-by4vi
    @MichaelMiller-by4vi Рік тому +1

    Had to look it up. Ral Partha model with the external ammo feed so 2, 5, 6, or 7 variant. I love the MGA but Piranha did it better on a lighter chassis. Could be laser pods. My favorite Locust is custom retrofit 2C-2 with 10 RL10 for the 4 ssrm2.

  • @Dang_Near_Fed_Up
    @Dang_Near_Fed_Up Рік тому +1

    This is the mech of nightmares if you ever faced a swarm attack by Dragon mechs. This could be easily used to replace the Panther in such a swarm based attack, and could make short work of your battleplans.

  • @philippauli8162
    @philippauli8162 Рік тому +1

    Outstanding video as always Frog! Definitely going to borrow that Steel Falcon paint scheme next time I have a spare/random Clan mech to paint!

  • @iDarkfigure
    @iDarkfigure Рік тому +1

    The Original Online Swarm Mech! When Experienced Mech Warriors in a light mech could take down a Medium to Heavy Mech by continually hitting it from outside it's arc of fire or back shot!

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому

      Never underestimate a locust mechwarrior. They're crazy.

  • @birdlawyer4885
    @birdlawyer4885 Рік тому +2

    lol was that a Ren & Stimpy reference? Great vid

  • @sheilaolfieway1885
    @sheilaolfieway1885 Рік тому +1

    expensive or not Clans know how to make mechs and sometimes tanks too. The Locust IIC is one example... i piloted one of these in MWLL was very fun.

  • @lukedudley5030
    @lukedudley5030 Рік тому +1

    Before I've watched....I love the locust IIC cause its fast packs an awesome punch and has won me loads of solaris light fights :-) I'm inner sphere forever but glad I nicked one of these :-)... now watched and we agree great vid as always :-)

  • @kathilmechworks4895
    @kathilmechworks4895 Рік тому +1

    Despite its wolf origins do like the 5. Am a huge fan of ATM launchers though especially on lights. Nothing wants HE rounds in the back. Over all though am a huge fan of this mech in general and like it a lot better than the Jenner IIc due to its lack of energy weapons. Funny you mention about the value of lights had a game where had one player take a pair of 3/5 assaults, did realize he lost until he did because he couldn't engage.

  • @drewgilbertson
    @drewgilbertson 2 місяці тому +2

    Keep it simple I say. Gimme one with 2 medium pulse lasers, 2 flames, and a laser ams.

  • @lexington476
    @lexington476 Рік тому +1

    Oh these things are nasty. Haven't fought against one and probably 25 years, but I still remember trying to chase one down with two IS mechs and not really accomplishing much 😀😃😄.

  • @JosephMitchell-zw3db
    @JosephMitchell-zw3db 5 місяців тому +1

    It is a killer and so overlooked

  • @RibusPQR
    @RibusPQR Рік тому +2

    6 AP Gauss on a targeting computer? Was the 2c7 made by Clan Hell's Horses or Clan Squid Game?

  • @AngelusNielson
    @AngelusNielson Рік тому +2

    Scarily enough, ww3 was prevented by someone deciding that a glitch in the system wasn't actually a Russian nuke attack and not launching a counterattack. Thankfully they were right.

  • @mosinmanyum1403
    @mosinmanyum1403 4 місяці тому

    i pilot a locust 1C with 1 ER medium laser (Clan) and 4 ER small lasers (also Clan), bugger hits up to 250 km/ph with the supercharger i got on board, definitely a fast bitey bastard (edit, yes this is MW5 i refer to, i do want to try making it for the table top as it wouldnt be bad for Zellbringing)

  • @timetomakethecalligraphy6923
    @timetomakethecalligraphy6923 Рік тому +1

    I am a simple man. I see a video about Locusts, I click and like.

  • @atmosdwagon4656
    @atmosdwagon4656 Рік тому +1

    Very little terrifies infantry more than a properly kitted and piloted Locust.
    The Clan upgrade only broadens its potential mission profile.
    That said, I'm a Jenner pilot first and foremost, and the clan upgrade to that mech is quite fun.

  • @famanche
    @famanche Рік тому +1

    One of the things Mechwarrior Online did right was making light mechs a force to be reckoned with. Go fasters unite!

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому

      Maybe a bit too good, but I'm just a jaded ex-MWO player who got really frustrated with Spiders that benefitted from a terrible netcode and were unkillable.

  • @thomasrobson6370
    @thomasrobson6370 Рік тому +1

    I'm a strong proponent of light and medium mechs for speed and cost to be able to field large mech forces.

  • @Wraith-Knight
    @Wraith-Knight Рік тому +1

    i got 2 or 3 of these guys love them original

  • @meshuggahshirt
    @meshuggahshirt Рік тому +1

    Loyal Spheroid here but I'd buy every Locust IIC the Diamond Sharks want to sell me

  • @shaunhall960
    @shaunhall960 Рік тому +2

    They might die easily but the swarm will get you in the end.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому +1

      Even if you get one, there are a dozen more in the walls... They're in the walls! Run!

    • @shaunhall960
      @shaunhall960 Рік тому +1

      @@MechanicalFrog ;)

  • @VaciliNikoMavich
    @VaciliNikoMavich Рік тому +1

    I love the Locust! So fast ❤

  • @thomasrobson6370
    @thomasrobson6370 Рік тому +1

    I think it was you that did a fiction with the ion falcon, if you get a chance do a little bit of fiction with the locusts or the standard locust IIC

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому +1

      I'm sure it will make its way into some short fiction soon.

    • @thomasrobson6370
      @thomasrobson6370 Рік тому +1

      @@MechanicalFrog I do like your short and long FanFictions. You got good imagination, in a good ability to convey it

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! More to come. The nonsense must flow!@@thomasrobson6370

  • @tuppytheducky
    @tuppytheducky Рік тому +4

    Oh hey that’s me!

  • @GrozaMariposa
    @GrozaMariposa Рік тому +1

    The original design is classic look. I was wondering if you have read or played with the Koto? It's a Solarian Locust that looks like the classic got put on steroids. Also awesome video on the IIC!

  • @Brigand231
    @Brigand231 Рік тому +1

    An effective tool if used properly, but I'm not sure I'd say I "love" them. Has anybody ever really had much success with heavy lasers? I've always found them too inaccurate to be practical - at least for me, BattleTech is all about maneuvering and positioning to put the odds in your own favor while thwarting everyone else from doing the same. The accuracy penalty from heavy lasers works against that.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому +1

      Most of the time, lights are hunting other lights. A to-hit penalty is not helpful there. I'll keep my medium pulse laser.

  • @gregdomenico1891
    @gregdomenico1891 Рік тому +2

    Why do we love the Marauder IIC? Whoops, wrong Mech. TBH, IIC's in BTA3062 are giving me more hell then Omni's. And yeah, they modeled the Locust IIC to go fast and hit Hard. Bring plenty of LBX's with cluster rounds.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому

      Maybe I should do the Marauder IIC video and all heck will break loose.

    • @gregdomenico1891
      @gregdomenico1891 Рік тому +1

      @@MechanicalFrog That would be fun to see, but I think a video on the Hunchback IIC would be, shall we say, 'more engaging'?

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому

      I could just do all the IIC versions...

  • @turk88
    @turk88 Рік тому +1

    any mech can be made awesome with clan tech...

  • @sebastiang.5032
    @sebastiang.5032 Рік тому +1

    You gotta use a bigger brush for basepainting 😅

  • @louiswilkins9624
    @louiswilkins9624 Рік тому +1

    Nasty and useful 👍

  • @BLOODKINGbro
    @BLOODKINGbro Рік тому +2

    EMC

  • @thegunslinger8806
    @thegunslinger8806 Рік тому +1

    Kind of a shame you didn't paint it frog colored but thats too on the nose I guess lol, my own experience with the Locust online has been through the games and I personally love the 2C-6, because nothing is cheaper than running Dakka dakka circles around your opponent on solaris-7. Poor Clan Moongoose, taken by an angry monster known as Smoked Jaguar far too soon much like Sea Fox and many others.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому

      I should probably paint something frog green one of these days...

    • @thegunslinger8806
      @thegunslinger8806 Рік тому +1

      @@MechanicalFrog king crab with a giant frog smiley face, make the claws little froggy arms. It will be the nicest looking death machine ever.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому +2

      @@thegunslinger8806 How about a Turkina? I have three laying around waiting for paint.

    • @thegunslinger8806
      @thegunslinger8806 Рік тому +1

      @@MechanicalFrog perfect, we can call them the tadpoles lol

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому

      Sounds like a plan.

  • @lexington476
    @lexington476 Рік тому

    12:15 what are the Steel Falcons?

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому +1

      My headcanon unit of Jade Falcons doing their own thing after the IlClan fight on Terra.

    • @gregdomenico1891
      @gregdomenico1891 Рік тому

      ​@@MechanicalFrogWell, the 'Steel Wolves' were a thing during the Dark Age's. I don't think the Vipers and Falcons got along well enough to make a sub Clan.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому

      @@gregdomenico1891 No relation to either the Steel Wolves or the Vipers.

  • @beskar66
    @beskar66 Рік тому +1

    You say IIC I say GIMME

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому

      Excellent taste, as always.

    • @beskar66
      @beskar66 Рік тому +1

      @MechanicalFrog plus a pressure washer need to clean out all the blood and chunky after I salvage those mechs

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому

      I admire your optimism.

    • @beskar66
      @beskar66 Рік тому +1

      @MechanicalFrog give me enough TSEMP's (evil laugh) and optimism doesn't matter I'll fry my up some clanner steaks

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому

      Salt and pepper or do you get creative with your seasoning?

  • @lexington476
    @lexington476 Рік тому +1

    9:17 'merica 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸😎🙂.

  • @MahPeepee
    @MahPeepee Рік тому +1

    So much clan wolf hate lol

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Рік тому

      If they're so great, they should have no problem with the playful ribbing. ;)

  • @ian5395
    @ian5395 Рік тому +1

    I'd rather fight five atlas than five loc2C