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  • @premierguitar
    @premierguitar  4 місяці тому +3

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  • @citizencyclops406
    @citizencyclops406 4 місяці тому +5

    Sweet sweet playing. I’ve seen you do 50 interviews John but never heard you play. Nothing in your rhetoric during the interviews suggests how accomplished you are as a player. Very,very,very refreshing. And, in some convoluted way is points to why your interviews are so insightful.

  • @davidwright9550
    @davidwright9550 4 місяці тому +27

    Once again Mr. Bohlinger your playing along with the LP sell the amps better than anything else could!

  • @johngerson7335
    @johngerson7335 4 місяці тому +10

    All sounding really, really good John, amps _and_ playing. And 'Sunny' on the '54 was _outstanding._ Thanks man!

  • @nicero870
    @nicero870 4 місяці тому +9

    Thank you for that pretty, (clean) intro. Not expecting to hear many demos of this without them being turned all the way up.

  • @RenoWeedLajos
    @RenoWeedLajos 4 місяці тому +15

    Wonderful guitar playing❤

  • @dr.buzzvonjellar8862
    @dr.buzzvonjellar8862 4 місяці тому +5

    Such sweet playing John! Amps sound pretty darned good

  • @risby1930
    @risby1930 4 місяці тому +1

    My dad was a Nashville Pro (steel picker) and used Gibson amps in the 1950's. When he went to pedal steel, like most steel guys he needed something more powerful, so it was a Twin with a different transformer and a 15 inch JBL D130. Fortunately, Peavey blew all that old not reliable stuff out of the water, with the Session 400. But he did use the old Gibson with his 1955 Fender triple neck, when ever he had a western swing gig. I'm glad to see Gibson back in the game. Of course John could make anything sound good.

  • @tedkellison2598
    @tedkellison2598 4 місяці тому +6

    Nice tremolo on those amps! Really dig that big old Switchmaster - those old P-90s are just magic!

  • @jerryrn62
    @jerryrn62 4 місяці тому +6

    You're such a great player , as good the the stars you interview John!!

  • @freemanmt1
    @freemanmt1 4 місяці тому +1

    Love the playing and the tones. Great job

  • @petemccarry2326
    @petemccarry2326 4 місяці тому +2

    Great review. It really brought out the differences in the guitars. Love that ES-5!

  • @timcoughlin4107
    @timcoughlin4107 4 місяці тому +1

    Great playing! Love your gear reviews.

  • @paulstanley3019
    @paulstanley3019 4 місяці тому +2

    Always my go to for Amp reviews. Appreciate u John. Great song selection at the end🤟🏾

  • @ZELENKAPB
    @ZELENKAPB 4 місяці тому +2

    Having had the opportunity to have Mr Bollinger not only play on my last CD, but to meet him and be able to play that gold Les Paul, and now to hear it through these incredible Gibson reissues, well, let's just say my mind is blown. Once again John it's an honor to hear you play you make these amps sound great!

  • @JohnDesPortes-du5yd
    @JohnDesPortes-du5yd 4 місяці тому +4

    It’s all about the lucite-style handles.

  • @dalecoffing8655
    @dalecoffing8655 4 місяці тому +4

    Strange I have watched you on several interviews but never heard you play. Great demo with mighty fine playing. Great to see Gibson coming back even if it's with the help of Mesa Bogie.

  • @padbender2972
    @padbender2972 4 місяці тому +7

    im sure the people from Mesa Engineering were in on this project...beauty tremolo by the way

  • @ChrisBuonoGuitar
    @ChrisBuonoGuitar 4 місяці тому +2

    Well done, John. I was a little underwhelmed when the official product video came out. You completely change my mind. The sound legit, and then some.

  • @paulfelt9384
    @paulfelt9384 4 місяці тому +1

    Great amps and tasty playing! I love your James Bond piece as the ride out song! They look like wonderful amps, for small clubs and recording especially. Pretty good jazzy as well as rock and blues tones.

  • @ronmercer7766
    @ronmercer7766 4 місяці тому +6

    John B killin it , as always. Smokin tones , son.

  • @davemassie3726
    @davemassie3726 4 місяці тому +2

    Nice playing JB! I have a 65 GA19 Falcon & the Skylark, Both tone to die for! NFS

  • @eatingplaydoh
    @eatingplaydoh 4 місяці тому +2

    Nice playing John

  • @allenhayesmusic
    @allenhayesmusic 4 місяці тому +4

    That trem is sick!

  • @BillCookMusic
    @BillCookMusic 2 місяці тому

    Great playing. Fun to listen to.

  • @kennethquintini658
    @kennethquintini658 4 місяці тому +2

    Great playing 👏👌👍

  • @brucedelaney9606
    @brucedelaney9606 4 місяці тому +2

    John you make this amp sound awesome.

  • @GoldtopDude
    @GoldtopDude 3 місяці тому

    Great playing!!

  • @johnnyresistance
    @johnnyresistance 4 місяці тому +3

    great sounding amps. the extra 2 inches really helps (what she said).

  • @JackTheSkunk
    @JackTheSkunk 4 місяці тому +6

    They can't be bad if Randall Smith was involved in their design. But, seeing as how I only play clean, I will be ordering a Princeton style amp with an added midrange control.

  • @ThinkTankxx
    @ThinkTankxx 4 місяці тому +1

    Righteous jams my man!

  • @TequilaRob
    @TequilaRob 4 місяці тому +5

    awesome.......ive got 4 amps...all Gibsons.....the Falcon 20 would give me 5....yeah...i like the sound of that...🥰....love to hear how a tele sounds through this...

  • @barrysebastian9584
    @barrysebastian9584 4 місяці тому +1

    Very nice… always liked the old Gibson amps. Glad I watched til the end… Sunny meets 007. Very cool👍😁.

  • @cliffords2315
    @cliffords2315 3 місяці тому

    That was a great sounding song at the start, the bass was really booming from my Stereo!! nice........

  • @mladengrubelic873
    @mladengrubelic873 4 місяці тому +1

    I loved how you reached for a tremolo arm on a guitar that hasn't got one (14:25). Yup, we are getting old.😄

  • @alexwoolridge94aw
    @alexwoolridge94aw 4 місяці тому +3

    Damn son, that Falcon 20 sounds amazing.

  • @chuckbouscaren3898
    @chuckbouscaren3898 4 місяці тому +2

    Nice demo and pretty sexy amps!

  • @DreaNEO
    @DreaNEO 4 місяці тому +2

    That was a cool Scofield-ish intro...dang John-B!!!

  • @RenoWeedLajos
    @RenoWeedLajos 4 місяці тому +2

    Excellent Gibson sound❤

  • @aldocg4105
    @aldocg4105 4 місяці тому +2

    Sounds great!!!!

  • @Scott__C
    @Scott__C 4 місяці тому +3

    Loved John going for the Bigsby/trem arm when it wasn't there. How often do we all do that when switching guitars!

  • @colsonanglin767
    @colsonanglin767 4 місяці тому

    Did you happen to mention what drive/delay pedals you used in the video? I’m loving the sounds you got out of the 20!

  • @catdaddy7982
    @catdaddy7982 4 місяці тому +1

    Nice review. Will A/B compare with Blues Junior IV?

  • @TommySprocket
    @TommySprocket 4 місяці тому +1

    Feel like I walked into Ricks Place in Casablanca!
    Nice ambiance .

  • @stanlara323
    @stanlara323 4 місяці тому +2

    John is by far the best Premier Guitar 🎸 Host anytime he’s on it’s a must watch 🔥

  • @patshep68
    @patshep68 4 місяці тому +1

    Dang that sounds good

  • @jeffmazzei8520
    @jeffmazzei8520 4 місяці тому +1

    John it’s ok ! For a Blues Amp , but it would be nice if they had a 30 watt model

  • @fordsrestorations970
    @fordsrestorations970 4 місяці тому +3

    My 1rst amp was Epiphone Kalamazoo some call true Gibson, God I hated losing it. I'm looking for tone-- tone that the Masters use in the studio recording sessions.... mic'd up about 3-1/2 or 4-1/2 volume, but capable of ripping at about 7 or 8... the 20 is good😎 , yet I'm hoping they'll do a 40 or 50 twin 12-in

  • @markuslinnanen555
    @markuslinnanen555 4 місяці тому +10

    Need to hear it with single coils

    • @kaphillum
      @kaphillum 4 місяці тому +1

      The last guitar (Gibson ES5) has singlecoils :)

    • @sooparticular
      @sooparticular 4 місяці тому +6

      nahhhh he meant a strat or tele...thats a jazz box@@kaphillum

    • @samuelstacey2309
      @samuelstacey2309 4 місяці тому

      Lol

  • @rjb7260
    @rjb7260 4 місяці тому

    Thanks for sharing.. Do these have effects loops?

  • @DrDjones7
    @DrDjones7 4 місяці тому +2

    Now we know where to buy the Gibson guitar and amp, but is John Bohlinger's absolute class by any chance marketed?

  • @GitShiddy
    @GitShiddy 4 місяці тому +10

    I'm very much looking forward to trying these out. Hear what they sound like in the hands of a talentless hack as opposed someone who makes everything sound great.

  • @dananthony6258
    @dananthony6258 4 місяці тому +4

    I had to run my eyes. New Gibson amps . Wow !

  • @robertdavidtingstrom118
    @robertdavidtingstrom118 4 місяці тому +1

    Gibson needs to make this Music City Les Paul a signature model!!!!!!

  • @Robstafarian
    @Robstafarian 4 місяці тому +1

    I am no fan of contemporary Gibson, but they would do well to pay Mr. Bohlinger to hold clinics with these amps.

  • @socialmeaslesinpartnership1252
    @socialmeaslesinpartnership1252 4 місяці тому +1

    Enjoyed the tunes mightily. At the price of those amps, there are options a-plenty including the real cheapo Monoprice 15 watt - 12" which is excellent sounding, handsome, quality valves (tubes), well made and loud-when-you-want, attenuate, gain, very decent spring reverb, send/return for your stomp boxes and in Britain goes for around £250.00 under a different name. It's basically a 70s Laney design under the hood - decent old-school soul and crankerama. All tube amps do it - that beautiful realness, the little "burr" of gain or "smash the place up" howling - Mesa and Gibson have no corner on that. Only that Fender Twins and Hi Watts are no-can-do today because of health-and-safety.
    North of a grand's a serious ask for what is pretty much the same thing. I don't see how the Falcons fit in at that kind of money because that "great little tube amp that you can carry to gigs without hurting yourself" vibe is up for grabs at a quarter the price or less, mail order. Anyone can have one. OK - made in USA......................................................whoopee.....
    Lovely playing though.

  • @davidluna3209
    @davidluna3209 4 місяці тому +2

    Sounds good. I just wish it cost more.

  • @TheGospelGuitarist
    @TheGospelGuitarist 4 місяці тому +2

    Seen this coming a mile away when they acquired Mesa.

    • @soundpainter2590
      @soundpainter2590 4 місяці тому

      Mesa Is/Was... Other other side of the COUNTRY. Many a mile.

    • @TheGospelGuitarist
      @TheGospelGuitarist 4 місяці тому

      Ok I seeen this coming many miles away.
      @@soundpainter2590

  • @giulioluzzardi7632
    @giulioluzzardi7632 4 місяці тому +1

    WOW , the Switch-master has found it's mate..as far as I can hear from here P90s need that amp cos it gives them a bit of bite. Nice.

  • @stevelife8505
    @stevelife8505 4 місяці тому +2

    Awesome! Do you know what pickups are in that first guitar?

    • @johnbohlinger4868
      @johnbohlinger4868 4 місяці тому +1

      Those are the stock pickups...it's a 2019.

    • @stevelife8505
      @stevelife8505 4 місяці тому

      ​@@johnbohlinger4868Thanks John!! Hope you are doing well man

  • @JJ-fb8sz
    @JJ-fb8sz 4 місяці тому

    I believe this is just a repackaged California Tweed 2:20. Check all the specs and compare videos. The Cali Tweed has a front panel...clear winner for me!

  • @fendafred
    @fendafred 3 місяці тому

    @johnbohlinger that intro was sweet but that outro was even sweeter.

  • @terrillmel
    @terrillmel 4 місяці тому

    Is the reverb digital or does it have a tank?

  • @AuctionStyle
    @AuctionStyle 3 місяці тому

    What pedal are we using for gain?

  • @revelry1969
    @revelry1969 4 місяці тому +1

    The original was GA-19RVT. Falcon

    • @markwalmsley5892
      @markwalmsley5892 4 місяці тому +1

      Had one 1962 used for harp great amp !

    • @revelry1969
      @revelry1969 4 місяці тому

      @@markwalmsley5892 for sure. I got one for guitar

  • @philiphoward1731
    @philiphoward1731 4 місяці тому +3

    OK if this is true, I’m gonna definitely buy these Giibson amplifiers and I will team them up with my Giibson Firebird guitar and my Giibson Les Paul guitar man. I am so happy now I can’t believe it. Everything seems to be going good right now. Thank you so much Giibson.💰💰💰💰

  • @firewalker6712
    @firewalker6712 4 місяці тому +1

    What kind of Les Paul is that gold top? Did you mod a studio?

    • @johnbohlinger
      @johnbohlinger 4 місяці тому +1

      A music City Les Paul.. heavy modded.

    • @firewalker6712
      @firewalker6712 4 місяці тому

      @@johnbohlinger Thanks for the reply!

  • @noslen954
    @noslen954 4 місяці тому +2

    are these point to point wiring?
    or hand wired or do they have a printed circuit board?

    • @premierguitar
      @premierguitar  4 місяці тому

      Handwired by Mesa/Boogie team in Petaluma, CA.

    • @noslen954
      @noslen954 4 місяці тому +2

      Another reviewer just told me that this amp has printed circuit boards.
      Not sure who to believe.
      In my opinion point to point amps just sound better. Fender even now sells a point to point Princeton again. It's twice as much as their Princeton that has a printed circuit board.

    • @tiusragan-johnson
      @tiusragan-johnson 4 місяці тому +1

      @@noslen954 If you look at the listing on Gibson's site, the amp has "Hand-wired in Petaluma, CA" printed on the back. At least on the 20, but idk why the other one would be any different.

    • @gggomez9764
      @gggomez9764 4 місяці тому +3

      Hand wired on a pcb?

    • @tiusragan-johnson
      @tiusragan-johnson 4 місяці тому

      @@johngerson7335 interesting! I suppose if it were p2p they would say that and charge even more for it. The web listing says “Duo-Class wiring” which I haven’t found any info about yet.

  • @DMSProduktions
    @DMSProduktions 4 місяці тому +1

    Sweet sounds John!
    Hey DO you have a brother that's an actor, who has appeared on Star Wars:The Book Of Boba Fett?

    • @johnbohlinger
      @johnbohlinger 3 місяці тому

      Big fan, but not my kin. Thanks

    • @DMSProduktions
      @DMSProduktions 3 місяці тому

      @@johnbohlinger Wow! You know who I'm talking about right? The dude that played Cob Vanth! COULD be your brother or a cousin! A fellow Montanan was well judging by the accent!
      His name is Tym Olyphant.

  • @Smart-Alex
    @Smart-Alex 4 місяці тому

    Magnatone/Supro competitor!?

  • @tomwillaert3363
    @tomwillaert3363 4 місяці тому +2

    Is the tremolo ticking?

    • @WithoutTroy
      @WithoutTroy 4 місяці тому

      Sounds like it. Everyone in here saying the tremolo sounds good has wax in their ears. Sounded like ass.

  • @babagadoush1
    @babagadoush1 4 місяці тому +1

    Very tasty

  • @michaelclark5020
    @michaelclark5020 4 місяці тому

    That’s the shit I own 2 Gibson falcons play them in stereo. Are these hand wired or pcb

    • @premierguitar
      @premierguitar  4 місяці тому

      Handwired in Petaluma, CA, by the Mesa/Boogie crew

    • @dalek6779
      @dalek6779 3 місяці тому

      They’re pcb.

    • @Riverking1
      @Riverking1 3 місяці тому

      ​@@premierguitarPCB. Stop lying for Gibson. Open it up and show it on video. Gibson won't let you will they...

  • @poopydonkey
    @poopydonkey 3 місяці тому +1

    Anyone see a gutshot of either of these?!? 😂😂😂 YOU REALLY SHOULD

  • @stevem7
    @stevem7 3 місяці тому

    Brad The Guitologist including this video o yours in his latest diatribe. Thoughts? (By the way that Paul o yours is to DIE for)

  • @stringlocker
    @stringlocker 4 місяці тому +1

    I normally skip right to "Let's dime this pig"

  • @mns8732
    @mns8732 4 місяці тому +1

    Gibson saw all that fender 5 and 20 watt amps selling like there's no tomorrow and jumped. But is it to little to late to make a mark? They do look and sound great though. Methinks to buy one

  • @FenderGreg
    @FenderGreg 3 місяці тому

    It sounds great, but Gibson's claims that it's made in the USA and handwired is misleading. The Preamp tubes are mounted on a most likely made in China PCB. It's similar in quality to budget Peavey and Crate USA amps of the 1990"s that retailed for $300.

  • @Andrew-su9rk
    @Andrew-su9rk Місяць тому

    You should show the inside of the amp to be genuine with people about what you actually get for the inflated price of these amps.

  • @mikastu
    @mikastu 4 місяці тому +1

    Looks like someone's been rolling their own cigarettes on the top of the 20. (!?)

  • @pgrove
    @pgrove 4 місяці тому +4

    That hilarious price tag though.

  • @cmet8280
    @cmet8280 4 місяці тому

    Is the falcon 20 20 watts 15 watts or 12 watts?

    • @premierguitar
      @premierguitar  4 місяці тому +2

      12W/5/1

    • @jacobnewell7845
      @jacobnewell7845 4 місяці тому +1

      Believe me when I say this. 12 watts can go a lot harder than you think

    • @donaldlaury7193
      @donaldlaury7193 4 місяці тому +1

      @@premierguitar And 15/6/2 if you opt for the 6V6 I think.

    • @Riverking1
      @Riverking1 3 місяці тому

      Careful what Premier tells you. They also said these were hand wired. That's BS.

  • @jamesstroud6037
    @jamesstroud6037 3 місяці тому +7

    The boards are made as Mesa would, not handwired! As it says on back. Very poor and very misleading!

    • @theuserthatishere
      @theuserthatishere 3 місяці тому

      it's almost like gibson sells low quality nowadays.....lol

    • @BlindTom61
      @BlindTom61 2 місяці тому +1

      Those amps are junk. Overpriced junk.

    • @noams210
      @noams210 2 місяці тому +1

      Preamp tubes are directly mounted to internal pc board! Nuts!

  • @adelaideloop9732
    @adelaideloop9732 3 місяці тому +3

    Why not open one up (it’s just four screws) and show the circuit board with the preamp tubes mounted on the circuit board? That would make for a more complete review. These are highly over priced for circuit board amps.

    • @Riverking1
      @Riverking1 3 місяці тому

      Horizontally mounted at that. Well that'll last forever!

  • @ericajohnson7535
    @ericajohnson7535 3 місяці тому +2

    Peavey Classic 30, now that's a real amp, without the printed circuit board nonsense....

  • @jeffgrant2350
    @jeffgrant2350 3 місяці тому

    your playing is fine- price is ridiculous.

  • @jamesonpace726
    @jamesonpace726 4 місяці тому +1

    Pretty sure I can't afford it....

    • @wesleyc.4937
      @wesleyc.4937 4 місяці тому +1

      ... and if you could, it'll probably be stolen in 60 seconds!

    • @premierguitar
      @premierguitar  4 місяці тому

      Falcon 5: $1,499; Falcon 20: 1,799

    • @richfahey
      @richfahey 4 місяці тому +1

      Yup, can’t afford em

  • @macdaddyblues1
    @macdaddyblues1 3 місяці тому +3

    It would have been nice to have them back making REAL quality amps. These are garbage (circuit board nonsense with tubes mounted to the board?!!!) Come on John, you know better man.

  • @GenghisDaniel
    @GenghisDaniel 4 місяці тому +1

    Not sure what is the point of the 5 watts if it is possible to use the 20 watts also in 1 watts or 5 watts. Maybe the 5 watts sounds better at low volume than the bigger one on a 5 watts setting but it is not apparent from the video. I know that they are not supposed to be mimicking the same old amp but still the 20 watts seems more versatile... Both sound good thought.
    The price seems a little off, it is probably not really well built for such a price for an amp made in the US (probably PCBs made in China and assembled in the US, with plastic connectors, hence the "hand wired" affirmation (if the tube socket are on the chassis it may be that bad, but yes Messa as the reputation of not making really well built amp, so we will have to wait and see for a tech to take it apart).

  • @flukyreview9128
    @flukyreview9128 4 місяці тому +4

    Hmmmmmmmmm a rebranded mesa boogie mk 1 amp?

    • @vncstudio
      @vncstudio 4 місяці тому

      Have you played a Mark I? It's nothing like this amp..

  • @silcoxone
    @silcoxone 4 місяці тому

    Just dont crank it!
    You can get one for 400 bucks in a year or so at guitar center.
    Just like my GA42rvt!

  • @MrTimcoronel
    @MrTimcoronel 4 місяці тому

    Nice big hair, John ;)

  • @rodolpheponthus2948
    @rodolpheponthus2948 Місяць тому

    So much haters in the comments. Gosh

  • @marvinmartin3438
    @marvinmartin3438 4 місяці тому +2

    Dude, I need this amp! Is it true bypass? Does it have a sweet spot? Is it transgender friendly? Covid compatible? Can it get Eddy's "Smells like teen spirit" tone? Asking for a friend

  • @bartboop
    @bartboop 3 місяці тому

    This looks like a Crate amp. The guts are troublesome.

  • @soundpainter2590
    @soundpainter2590 4 місяці тому

    The problem with these amps... Is that l like em... Imagine... In all these years. BOOGIE Could have had 1 good amp. It took Gibson to make them...

    • @Riverking1
      @Riverking1 3 місяці тому

      It's still a Mesa. Not hand wired and PCB boards. Tubes into PCB.

  • @westoftherockies
    @westoftherockies 4 місяці тому

    sounds great but at almost 2000 dollars..hard pass

  • @eduwardjunior3155
    @eduwardjunior3155 2 місяці тому

    A 1400 dollar amp build like 200 dollar amp!

  • @spylingual8573
    @spylingual8573 2 місяці тому

    That intro noodling did not make me want to buy this amp. Sheesh

  • @Turboy65
    @Turboy65 4 місяці тому +1

    For a while I had an original Gibson Falcon amp. It wasn't anything special, other than being a kind of cool relic of its day. These amps will appeal to those who are seriously nostalgic about their old Falcon they used to have and tend to see everything 50s and 60s through the rose tinted Nostalgia Glasses, but from an objective standpoint, these are well made vintage style amps with a good vintage vibe but tonally speaking they're decidely mediocre. They're not bad, no, not by any means, but for 1500 and 1800 dollars there are a number of far better sounding vintage style options competing for your money. Gibson diverted some of Mesa's manufacturing capacity to build these honestly lackluster amps when that capacity would have been more sensibly put to good use by helping to satisfy the demand for Mesa amps going to the UK and Europe, where they have been in short supply for quite a while now.
    I was afraid when Gibson bought out Mesa that they'd do something stupid to Mesa, like, "Hey, we want you guys to make new Gibson Falcon amps!" or something equally dumb. And sure enough....we are there.
    I wouldn't be this critical but for one thing.....these amps honestly don't sound very good at their price points. Truth. For those prices you should be well into boutique amp territory and MUCH better tones. The 20, turned up, manages to sound like a distortion pedal is being used...and for a tube amp, that's not a compliment!

    • @JB_Eckl
      @JB_Eckl 4 місяці тому +1

      Well that was a lovely rant, except for a few things. (1.) They sound fantastic. You don’t have to go for the full cranked fuzz effect; most people will use these for nice pushed clean and greasy mid-gain tones. (2.) Randall Smith does not screw around, and neither does his team. You should know that; the California Tweed is a modern classic. (3.) Who cares if the original Falcon was great or not? This is a very respectable way for Gibson to get back into the amp game. Why you mad?

    • @Turboy65
      @Turboy65 4 місяці тому

      @@JB_Eckl You think it sounds great, I think it sounds very mediocre. Certainly it's not due to any manufacturing issues, it's just the voicing of the design. We will agree to disagree. For 500 dollars I'd expect a better tone.