The Word Scrabble Pros Can't Spell

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  • Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 46

  • @Manigo1743
    @Manigo1743 5 місяців тому +6

    "I before E except before C". That is a good peice of information.

    • @nightwishlover8913
      @nightwishlover8913 3 місяці тому

      Except that (apparently) there are more exceptions to this rule than exemplars - don't yell at me ! I can't quote the source exactly, but it was quite interesting...

  • @javen9693
    @javen9693 6 місяців тому +40

    When you encounter this, don't challenge. Just extend it into PRU(NEICE)E, the best flavor of Icee

    • @limehawk4989
      @limehawk4989 6 місяців тому +2

      Someone explain this for the rest of the world please? 😅

    • @ciscoortega9789
      @ciscoortega9789 6 місяців тому

      Prune Icee (not an actual Icee flavor) ​@@limehawk4989

  • @domino14
    @domino14 6 місяців тому +26

    I remember Winter once playing TRIMERE* against me in a game in Albany and I didn't think twice about it, even though I already had studied that rack a few times. A couple hours later we were eating some sort of Latino food when I suddenly yell out TRIREME!! the word is TRIREME!! The very fact that it was placed on the board sort of just makes it a word for eternity.

  • @Babomomebeo
    @Babomomebeo 6 місяців тому +19

    It's a word so common, no one bothers to "study" it

  • @T1J
    @T1J 6 місяців тому +19

    i have watched this whole video and I still dont feel confident that I will remember how to spell this word

    • @axcertypo
      @axcertypo  6 місяців тому +8

      I'm sorry. I have failed you.

    • @thegodofpez
      @thegodofpez 6 місяців тому +3

      It’s crazy. NIECE isn’t tough for me. It’s differentiating nouns and verbs between lexicons. For example, RANSACK is valid as a word in NWL, but RANSACKING# is good internationally (CSW, not in NWL). 🤷‍♂️ This is the best mindfuck# game ever created.
      EDIT: RANSACKED is good in both lexicons, but RANSACKING is only good in one? Flawed much? /end rant /overthinking

    • @YellowSkarmory
      @YellowSkarmory 6 місяців тому +2

      @@thegodofpez RANSACKING being invalid in NWL is bizarre. I'm certain I've seen that before in everyday life.

    • @thegodofpez
      @thegodofpez 6 місяців тому

      @@YellowSkarmory Right!? It’s crazy to me how they choose valid words between dictionaries. I really wish they would just universalize them. ):

    • @T1J
      @T1J 6 місяців тому

      @@axcertypo definitely a me problem and not a you problem 😂

  • @dinocat8
    @dinocat8 6 місяців тому +4

    I appreciate the visuals for the hard to spell words.
    Crazy stories too!

  • @thegodofpez
    @thegodofpez 6 місяців тому +6

    Man I miss Conrad and the Scrabble scene!

    • @da_cbb
      @da_cbb 6 місяців тому +1

      dude i miss you, come join us sometime plz :)

    • @thegodofpez
      @thegodofpez 6 місяців тому

      @@da_cbb I plan on it, my brother! It’s been tough for an obvious reason, but I can’t let my $300+ worth of Scrabble materials lay dormant forever. I remember we once had a contest to see who’d get to 1600 first. I lost terribly. 😂 I’m just glad I beat you in a tourney game one time! ❤️ Eva still talks about you. Love you, brutha!

  • @PhyYuGiOh
    @PhyYuGiOh 6 місяців тому +3

    Hey Josh, really well put together video, this one has ought to bang

  • @thomascorey7284
    @thomascorey7284 6 місяців тому +11

    Does anyone have a link/quick explanation to the holding/challenge rules? I didn’t know you could draw provisional tiles, not sure I understand haha. Also what’s stopping someone from just holding every play?

    • @dinocat8
      @dinocat8 6 місяців тому +2

      You'd probably get beaten up in the nearest alley if you hold every play, so like unwritten rules, maybe?

    • @axcertypo
      @axcertypo  6 місяців тому +8

      www.scrabbleplayers.org/rules/rules-20161201.pdf
      holding every play is suspicious behavior, as you're only supposed to hold something you're considering challenging, so a director could consider it abusive and issue you a warning

    • @thomascorey7284
      @thomascorey7284 6 місяців тому +1

      @@dinocat8 I guess I don’t know what actually happens when you hold the play hahaha. I thought the ppponent couldn’t draw. In that case it seems like strictly an advantage to hold every play lol

    • @axcertypo
      @axcertypo  6 місяців тому +3

      @@thomascorey7284 yeah, this is why the rule about drawing provisional tiles changed from 1 minute to 15 seconds. Some think there should be no buffer period whatsoever

  • @DaveKnott
    @DaveKnott 6 місяців тому +1

    The spelling of NIECE is easier to remember if you happen to speak French, in which it is spelled almost the same except for an accent (NIÈCE), but pronounced NEE-ESS.

    • @axcertypo
      @axcertypo  6 місяців тому +2

      indeed, this is why I have no trouble spelling it anymore. I mention this in the full interview with Conrad, which is available on my Patreon

  • @SAYFVCKFOR100DOLLARS
    @SAYFVCKFOR100DOLLARS 6 місяців тому +13

    dunno how to sto[p

    • @javen9693
      @javen9693 6 місяців тому

      someone please for the love of God stop that man

    • @javierrodrigo1009
      @javierrodrigo1009 6 місяців тому +2

      please he[p

    • @limehawk4989
      @limehawk4989 6 місяців тому

      Hahaha i love that guy so much. A very relatable guy. We're all fallible humans 😊

  • @johnwilder4789
    @johnwilder4789 6 місяців тому

    Facing few better options, I played through a few tiles on the board to phony with *CENNET intentionally at Nationals a few years ago, un-duplicating my E and N and creating a new lane I desperately needed. I reasoned that it would likely stick to the board given the play’s low score (20ish points), the word length (6’s are studied less frequently than other word lengths), and some other factors. It did, and then I luckboxed into NIZAMATE as a natural through the T in my phony.
    Fast forward to a game last year, I had CEENNT on my rack and could have SWORN *CENNET was a word or that I’d seen it before. I killed like 4 minutes on my clock until I eventually “chickened out.” It was only until a few days later when I realized how close my call with karma had come.

  • @ValkyRiver
    @ValkyRiver 6 місяців тому +2

    What about OUTWIN# in NWL?

  • @Manigo1743
    @Manigo1743 6 місяців тому +1

    When they are challenged off the board, that shows that half of the players can spell.

  • @echoes6092
    @echoes6092 4 місяці тому

    nafka is also a word, yiddish origin :) i don't know if it's valid in scrabble dictionaries, though

  • @Jkfgjfgjfkjg
    @Jkfgjfgjfkjg 6 місяців тому

    Can you post a link to the controversial discussion?

    • @axcertypo
      @axcertypo  6 місяців тому

      Gonna keep that one private, even though it was a public discussion. Feels a bit wrong to link it for whatever reason

  • @ColdAzIce188
    @ColdAzIce188 6 місяців тому +5

    QI did a segment on how the "I before E" rule actually has more exceptions than words that fit it! ua-cam.com/video/M7hYEijfFF8/v-deo.html
    So if an excuse is ever needed for this... well... English is just nonsense. That pretty much covers it I think haha.

    • @ronaldwayne7092
      @ronaldwayne7092 6 місяців тому +4

      Thing is, people haven't been taught the entire verse, even the host of QI:
      I before E
      Except after C
      Or when sounding like A
      As in neighbor and weigh
      (And he did mention "veil" as an exception.)
      What do the numbers look like once that's accounted for?

    • @ColdAzIce188
      @ColdAzIce188 6 місяців тому

      @@ronaldwayne7092 I've heard the extension "I before E, except after C, when they make the sound eee", but just using the show's examples there's WEIRD, GLACIER, CONCIERGE, HACIENDA that all fail both of ours lol.
      I imagine that adding extra qualifiers narrows the numbers down to some extent, but the overall point is that English has such variety in its (very interesting) etymology that there's really no consistent rule you can apply for spellings.

    • @DadgeCity
      @DadgeCity 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@ColdAzIce188Glacier is glass-ee-er. The last two are foreign words. I think weird was originally pronounced where-d.

    • @Handygamer
      @Handygamer 6 місяців тому

      @@DadgeCity Glacier is pronounced something like glay-sher (at least according to MW), and not to be confused with glassier.

    • @ronaldwayne7092
      @ronaldwayne7092 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Handygamer Glass-ee-er is the British pronunciation. Everyone's right!