Have to believe alcohol greatly aided in his bad decision here. Not excusing him but just say that’s what it looked like. Alcohol is so socially acceptable yet causes so many problems
I was out 2 weeks ago with my girlfriend and a couple friends of ours celebrating her birthday. A guy from the booth across shouted over to me ‘what the f**k are you looking at?’ He clearly had a few drinks and was looking for a fight. I replied ‘I’m not looking at you. I don’t want any trouble’. I was very embarrassed the fact this happened in front of my gf and I guess theres folk who wouldn’t let anyone speak to them like that and get away with it but everyone was having a good time I didn’t want to ruin it. Towards the end of the night the guy came over to apologise to me and we shook hands. I’m glad I rose above it and just tried to defuse the situation.
People who tell you that they’d never let anyone speak to that are full of it. People that actually punch everyone that wants to fight are dead or in jail. You did the right thing. Fight when it really counts. When your life depends on it. Live another day to be a better man. Much love to you and your lady.
I was slashed down the centre of my left nipple many years ago. I didn't pose any threat, I didn't know this group of lads, it wasn't some turf thing. I was 13, my first time in Leeds city centre alone. I don't know if or why I may or not have been targeted. There was never any closure (don't know if anyone was arrested). Just a cheque for £50. I have never gotten over what happened. If I spot a group of kids or adults, I walk the long way round. Now 50 and still can't go to Leeds on my own. In fact, it is very rare I go into the city without good reason. I'm past looking for answers. Just thought I'd share. 👍🙏TY to anyone who reads.
😮 I'm from Leeds. I can't believe this happened to you so long ago. I admit I feel very lucky never having such an altercation. Thank you for sharing your story. I understand life is much worse now.
The only thing that needs to be understood is that the human mammal is a severely flawed and defective creature. Some more than others. Fortunately the majority of us are decent, civil, reasonable human beings, even when young. You just got unlucky to encounter some who aren't in that category. It is what it is and you can't change that. But you can live the rest of your life with the assurance that it won't happen again. Fate has not singled you out to be a target. Live with that promise and enjoy your existence...
Big guys are just as insecure as smaller guys. You'd think they wouldn't need to be, but hey, pussies gonna pussy. It all comes down to self confidence!
It’s POSSIBLE my man could have actually saved himself from this, but because bars, parades, parties present SO MANY INTERACTIONS that can have similar “energy”, it becomes incredibly difficult to know which one is the true threat situation. If one responds as if it were WRONGLY you just seem like the paranoid vigilante type. No, I’m with you. I don’t do the parties with strangers plied with alcohol in close quarters thing. I’m good.
Josh Hanson - the young man murdered in this video, was a friend to two of my younger brothers. I know as much as all of you about this evening and no more. What I can say is this.....Josh was well known as a likeable person, a commited son and sibling to his sister, a hard working man who had a great deal going for him. He wasn't on steroids and in the midst of roid rage that evening as he postured. He was well built, young, full of drink and basking in the enjoyment of the company of his friends and girlfriend. Drink can do funny things to a man and posturing is up there with them all, we all know this and brush off the posturing as it'll pass and we'll go about our usual lives the next day. He didn't approach Shane, he would've tired of eyeballing Shane, he would have gone home and remembered nothing of it. Shane made the decision to hurt Josh because his sense of masculinity was threatened. This was a bar in Ruislip, not the colleseum in Rome. Shane could have noticed the posturing, laughed it off and enjoyed his evening. He chose instead to approach Josh, draw a blade and strike him. He was no ninja, that blade was going to strike in the proximity of his intended aim at best and he knew this. He murdered Josh for posturing. That was not Shane's bar, Josh was not his property, he was armed in a bar intended for socialising. It was an evil act and he had lost any hope of making his life matter in any field or meaningful for it. Two mother's lost a son that day. Leave the guns and knives at home or at least if you do carry them....have the decency to write the word COWARD on your forehead, so that young men know not to damage your fragile masculinity when they eyeball you. RIP Josh.
I’m always armed, am certainly no coward, actively avoid physical confrontation and nor am I slave to ego. You are merely generalising based on this sole instance of a physically unprovoked attack on an unarmed individual (whom spat on the floor whilst looking in the attacker’s direction immediately prior to his own killing btw). You’re obviously emotionally invested in the murder of the ‘small-man syndrome’ suffering individual you know as Josh and your objectivity is clouded as a result. I’ve trained in bladed weaponry my entire adult life (30yrs in predominantly Katana & knife fighting) carrying a knife purely for the purpose of giving my woman and myself the best chance of survival if having no means of escape when accosted by unstable people, like Josh’s killer Shane, whom are intent on murdering me/her/us. I’ve been viciously stabbed on 3 separate occasions in the past, all requiring extensive surgery (but once to repair my bowel, with the injury’s resultant septicaemia almost killing me, by a man I didn’t know and had no prior interaction with). I’m confident that I would have ended it, if armed, before suffering the painful potentiality of my death and the ugly scars that remind me of the trauma on a daily basis. This type of scenario is the only reason I would ever draw my blade. Carrying doesn’t make me a coward, it simply makes me prepared. I have trained in boxing even longer than swords and knives, but am acutely aware of the fact that even though I can pummel any untrained man who attempts to assault me, conversely, any novice with a knife can easily kill me if I’m unarmed and he’s determined = Fact. I’m never getting caught with my pants down again and will certainly never be in a position where I’m too underpowered in order to prevent any harm (whatsoever) occurring to my partner. We never do clubs, or the like, precisely due to the fact that immature wankers like your mate and his unhinged killer frequent them in a lame bid at mistakenly believing that they’re coming across as the hardest one in the room. Due to your uninformed and inexperienced standpoint, you’re obviously young, so I’m not calling for the word “ignoramus” to be tattooed on your forehead. Edit : R.I.P. to many more than just the one.
We need to teach ourselves and our kids get them trained at a young age in weapons training and martial arts, kids have become soft it's part of a setup the current education system is designed to produce compliant non critical thinking people. I agree it's better to have a weapon and not need it I'm prepared to accept the consequences when defended my loved ones especially if deadly force is needed for self defence
I personally think that the killer did intend to do more than just show the victim a lesson. The move was very well calculated and from what I can see he was not even slightly drunk to not know the damage a strike to the neck can do. Horrible event.
@@Virvum_Juggernaut Carrying a knife is an idea I could never contemplate. A man who is confident of his masculinity does not need to show anyone that that is the case. I understand that your personal experience may have changed the way you look at things, but if it was me, I would by now have realised that using weapons of any kind will have no positive outcome under any circumstances. Even using it as defensive instrument, as you mention, will still lead to life changing circumstances that any self respecting guy will not want. The best strategy is to leave the place before things escalate and getting to live another day as a free happy man together with your loved ones. Trust me, nobody will think you are coward.
It's cultural. You go to a bar in Bogotá, Colombia and no one's looking for a fight. They are more interested in dancing and having a good time. Why? Because life is tough enough there already and out on the streets it's not so pleasant. People in the UK haven't got a clue.
One of the Best Comments here above by localbod. I've myself noticed this in Medellin El Poblado, the area which is housefull all the time in evenings/night and weekends. Never heard such things happening here ever. This is quite weird to hear that this thing is such a common thing in UK, as seen from most of the comments.
You're right, it's cultural. I have been living in Bogotá for 6 months and I love it here. Yes, the streets look rough but I have not seen one threatening situation since I have been here. The people are friendly and mind their own business. The bar scene is not as popular here as in the US or UK. Colombians seem to be more focused on work and family. Natural juices populate most drink menus here, not cocktails. Yes, you can order alcohol pretty much anywhere here but it's not shoved in my face like it is in the US.
@@bradad82 If you're out at night stay vigilant and don't use your phone on the street. I was five minutes from my home with my phone out and got robbed at gunpoint . I fought with one of the muggers and got pistol whipped for my troubles (5 stitches). Enjoy Colombia and make sure you get to see places like Villa de Leyva, Manizales, Santa Marta, Medellín to name a few. It's a wonderful country.
Posturing , stone island jumper, staring, sniffed up. Josh didn’t deserve to die for this. It’s a shame that he drew the attention of a pure psychopath.
I was out at a club once, a guy was giving dirty looks to the point where I told my friend I was going to leave to avoid conflict, did not know the guy never seen him in my life, 20mins later I was walking out and he came up to me shoved a gun into my ribs, he was super intoxicated slurring saying things like “you didn’t think I’d see you again” so Many things were going thru my mind at once, should I run, should I grab his gun?, I said to him, I don’t know you, I slowly reached for his gun and pushed it away from my ribs he was just staring at me we we’re almost in a slow motion tug of war it seemed like, as that was happening, a guy walked and told the guy with the gun, it’s not him you got the wrong guy! He grabbed the guys gun and told me to hurry and leave.. 1 week later I saw that guy who pointed the gun at me in the local news, he had been shot to death. Stay safe everyone, people now a days have no respect for human life, stay home and enjoy life with your loved ones.
LIfe is not a video game. That guy went looking for it and found it, at the level he was dishing it out at. Classic escalation of conflict of scenario that shows us all we need to deescalate and value life more than egotistical murder for power and fear over others. No matter what weapons you have or how tough you are, there is always someone else out there who can do the same thing to you or worse.
Glad you were safe and in a way Im glad that guy is no longer here to threaten or harm anyone else. Such a shame people get into that lifestyle to begin with. One could imagine that long lived crims in the underworld would also avoid conflict unless its necessary.
Good speech! I think it's good that no music is played so as not to diminish the importance. Unfortunately, as a guy you often find yourself in such a situation and I often feel how I am followed up because of my height. I hate those moments, because I would like to teach the guys a few manners but I also know how wrong the situation can go.
Powerful! A much needed change of pace from the usual self defense lessons. Unfortunately, it appears many aggressors also peruse this video genre; your balance of advice for both parties' perspectives is telling of experience and wisdom beyond compare. Thank you for the reality check and appropriate tone and demeanor that we can all learn from and use to grow into healthy minded male adults.
Im 54 now and ive seen my fair share of fights and stand offs. Its only in recent years that i realise how lucky ive been not to have had something similar happen to me. And no, i have never gone out to try and pick a fight, just a normal bloke out with his mates to have a laugh. For whatever reason it just happens, ive seen mates get cut, stabbed, stamped on, recieve broken limbs, all sorts. I haven't gone to pubs or clubs for many years now, i just got sick and tired of the whole cock of the walk bullshit. It really isnt worth it , these days being far worse in my opinion.
Love your channel and how you take the audience thru the reality of violence and our egos. God bless you and your family. We appreciate and enjoy, stay safe💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾🙏
That fact that he already had the knife in his pocket shows he was already on the look out for a victim. A full on coward for using the knife and for the way in which he sneakily did it!
Idk if it's different in that area but where I grew up it is very normal to carry a knife. Not even for self defense, just as a every day helpful tool. Not defending the guy at all I just think that is a silly assumption to make.
@Mayorofsexytown1303 it's beyond silly and ignorant of that guy to think a knife means someone is looking for a victim. As you said, they are a tool for many.
Thank you. ❤ This advice is timeless. I've watched the video several times. The movements are very subtle. Took 4th time through to see the knife. New to your channel. Hope these reality checks become a regular feature.💕
@@tesswagner895 Good lord calm down.... Ok I was a little ruff on you before but I find this guys instruction literally unbelievable. It's absolutely awful what happened in the video it truly is, but c'mon the chances of it happening around you are next to nothing. Go out, rock your hips and stamp your feet, it's Christmas relax all is well. This guys profiteering from a despicable murder with ridiculous advice. Remember that ! And when you go out have FUN !!!! Rather than watching what other people are doing. Much love. X
Situational Awareness if vastly underrated - I go to bars and clubs mostly solo so I am always very careful of how much I drink and aware of what is happening. Anytime a group comes in I am always looking to see if they are the friendly type of a bunch of drunk roosters if they roosters I make sure I am not sitting close to them or making eye contact. Also, I throw my ego out the door if someone steps on my toes or bumps me accidently I am always cool
I can testify to this. Had my throat cut @17,obviously I survived but have to accept my responsibility in the incident also. Always struggled with the balance between projecting confidence and/or a challenge. Extremely exact advice imo for all young men.
Great observations, hardly any martial artist trains for this, at that distance no one would be able to stop that as its too quick and if any instructor says they can they're lying.
Agreed on martial arts side, just wanted to point out most firearms trainers do often teach a form of basic 6ft rule, but in that situation nothing short of getting absolutely lucky (be a prep-movement or just where/how bad the wound ended up being) could save anyone caught in this type of scenario. There are hard limits on how fast we are, even at our utter best. Would be wise for all of us to be more aware of that and not let ourselves be closed in upon. Simply never know when it is not someone looking for a simple bout of knuckles. Seemed like a case of a person bolstered on liquid courage, vying for fight, and probably just needed a square meal and bed. Could've easily been avoided in so many ways like stated in this breakdown, instead two families are wrecked.
Just don’t let anyone get inside your personal space, especially in a potentially hostile situation. Sure, it’s kinda hard to do that in a crowded environment, but it can be done
The victim was Josh Hanson. I live half a mile from that bar (now closed) in NW London. This sort of thing was very rare here but is becoming more prevalent.
This was brilliant psychological analysis.. I'm subbing.. You touched on a lot of real life issues and situations.. The only problem I may have a difference of opinion on is.. In a bar environment, it's always different to standard fights, alcohol fuels ego..Ego creates unexpected problems. With the exception of creating distance, I'm not a big fan of self defence for knife attacks, the sly and speedy way it happens, 9/10, if someone has all the intentions of stabbing /slicing you, (providing its not bluff) they will.. Knife attack... What a coward, clearly doubted his ability to fight.. Great video, once again.. Respect 👍
I used to go in the RE bar in Eastcoat with my friend it was only few bus stops to where I live in Northwood. The RE bar was actually a really small bar tiny. But was really friendly. I cant believe that this happened to josh, hard working lad. He lost his life because of his body language. So sad RIP 🌹
Intelligent analysis of how and why violence occurs. Conflict is a part of nature and aggression and self worth are hard wired into the human ego. My own key elements to street survival are awareness, avoidance and preparedness by being fit, strong and armed with a little self protection knowledge. Then conduct yourself with quiet dignity, respect and courtesy in public. Many thanks for posting.
I would really like to see a video or a channel talk about the trauma after a confrontation when you do “rise above/walk away etc” I’ve fought in the street and I’ve trained mma for years but I walk away now I am approaching my 30s. but the ego attack when it happens burns me for months finding the balance of staying strong and curb a potential fight N I hang out hope to see that person again n really really hurting them. I suppose it’s because I am insecure and care what people think of me. And I need an experienced mature person to talk about that and I go hope one day it’s Jay Cooper because I have a lot of respect for what he says in these vids and u can tell he’s a fighter that’s confident in himself and probably dealt and consolidated these thoughts as a fighter
Well said.. The afterwards when u go through all the scenarios. Its not easy walking away especially knowing what youre capable of. However like i teach my teenage sons, you never know what the ostranger is capable of either, looks can be decieving and quite often The ental state isnt taken into considertion, some people are capable of great violence, beyond what we see as reasonable..
Yes! 5 months ago I was the bigger man while being threatened on the street. Had my daughter with me. Showed no fear, defused and walked off... but the whole time I felt like exploding from the adrenaline. These people live nearby so sometimes I see them which triggers that anxiety again. Really annoying because I couldnt deal with my feelings then and after. Being the smarter guy does give a very annoying feeling for a long time. And this was on top of longcovid while I was already weakened and stressed out.
If you feel threatened, NEVER let anybody get within an arms distance. I've seen people approach others hours after an argument has settled just to use a hand shake to bring them in closer before headbutting them and worse.
Comment is glitching or being flagged. Not sure but either way, this is a coward, committing a murder on a fellow club patron. You can't claim self defense when you are the aggressor and the armed individual, and had the time to draw your weapon and attack before the supposed "threat" even got his hands up for a fight. That is an assassination.
I don't know when this incident occurred, but when I was in the UK the risk in a pub confrontation was to get a beer mug smashed in your face with all the nice repercussions. You see, a beer mug is handy, and it is by definition not an illegal weapon you carry on you. Most importantly, though, the victim in this attack looks clearly unwell standing there before the confrontation. I suspect he was in a poor position to react in any way to protect himself, even by stepping away.
In UK now we have plastic glasses for that exact reason... Also offensive weapons act states that anything can be classed as a weapon just falls down your intention with the item (If I try to hit someone with a controller it becomes a weapon)
In Ohio (US) in the 80s, the courts treated everyone under the age of 18 as a minor, and regardless of the crime, they could only serve 6mo in a juvenile detention facility. We had guys (gang members) in our neighborhood who would disembowl people publicly and wait for the police to arrive and arrest them. They'd do their 6mo and get out. It gave them a powerful street credit that you couldn't buy. Many people feared these guys. I was a #1 target of this gang, and I lived in condition yellow (if not red). They knew they'd have to sneek up on me, and it happened regularly. Luckily, I trained hard, and my stuff worked, or I'd be dead 50x over. Razors to the soft bits are no laughing matter! My best advice is this: 1) Don't let people in close. 2) Talk a lot with your hands, often moving them to your face. This makes the timing of a sucker shot difficult. 3) Move around on your feet when people are nearby. Even look a little skitzy. This also limits sneak attacks. 4) Stay closer to walls and other large objects. This limits the variety of angles an attack can come from. 5) Train against sucker shots with your friends. This will greatly increase your reflexes and train in good responses. Me and my close friends trained all of this into us, and we ALL credit these rules to saving our lives multiple times.
@coasteyscoasteys4150 I definitely appreciate your comment, but I am curious. Why would my advice be worrying? I can for sure say the legal and social conditions that were in place to lead to my developing this philosophy were worrying. But, my tactics definitely result in becoming a less inviting target. I'm late 50s now, and just this week, I had two (probably 30 yr old) guys confront me in a parking lot. I know from my experience with hundreds of such encounters, they intended to attack me. As they confronted me, I even came in fairly close. But, I removed all the targets that guys go for by making changes to our relative positioning, and talking with my hands moving to and from my face. Most guys who "want to fight" really don't want a fair fight. They want to nail you when you're not expecting it and dominating you. If there's a 30% or better chance they can't, they'll move on. The sucker punch street fight scenario is almost always about obtaining a reputation for being a bad ass. They will rarely risk a failed attack. Simply deny them the openings that guys like that look for. I always say the fight starts way before the first punch has been thrown. To sum up my philosophy: Don't be suckered into putting your guard down, and you can't be sucker punched.
When I was in my early 20’s I had to leave a house party and go to the local off-licence to buy some alcohol. I was drinking at the time. I stepped out of the store and a guy from this local gang tells me to give him my phone and says he has a knife on him. I go back into the store but the owner tells me to leave. I’m on my own and now worried what to do. I boxed since I was young in and out of boxing gyms but I was faced with a life or death situation and facing a knife…as I step back a second guy walks forward and goes to swing a bottle at my face. In that split second I twist and hit him with a right hook and to this day believe i broke his jaw, he dropped to the ground as his friends stepped back. They ended up leaving and I ran back to the house party but it could’ve been a much different ending had I been slashed
I've been attacked by a guy with a knife. Got stitches on my scalp and ear, and there was a tiny cut right across my throat. A millimetre deeper and I could have ended up like this guy.
He wasn't a traveler yes he did go on the run and he didn't get caught he handed his self in they made it look like they caught him get ya facts right 🙄
@@georgiecoop3187 I wrote about it for the local paper so I think I know the facts. You’re spelling tells me you are a fellow traveller so you would have no problem with lying 🤥 yourself 😆
I just can't believe that a first strike to start a fight is to use a knife and intent to scar another man's face for life and for what? Then to find out they died. The poor victim.
I think if someone pulls out a knife in this situation he really wants to kill that's why he cut to death another person. His ego should be hang on tree together with his owner.
Cold blooded murder.....i was a bouncer in the 80s......usually several punch ups on the weekend and the odd glassing, but not many. This act was mindless murder. What an earth is the world coming too when people feel the need to carry a knife......especially in a pub or club, it's beyond me, doesn't matter how big or hard someone is, they don't stand a chance in this situation.....for fuck sake leave the knives at home..
I've seen and been in lots of fights and never understood knifers.... 2 ppl toe to toe is one thing if both want it, but glassing and knifing is cowardice and totally unnecessary. I've also ran, read the situation, we only have one body and life.
I actually have to take my glasses off in order to eat or drink because I’m nearsighted…a condition that seems to become more pronounced after about three adult beverages. As I’ve gotten older, I’ve taken to pushing my specs onto my forehead. This and a gray beard have saved me some hassle. “Whatcha staring at?” is answered by pulling my glasses down and saying, “Dude, I can’t see that far!” It works…or shall I say, worked. Past tense. I stopped hanging out in joints that draw wannabe “alphas” 30 years ago precisely because I got tired of dealing wit crap like this. RIP, Josh. I’m glad his killer was caught, may he spend the rest of his days in prison🙏🏾🤬
Why are these people carrying knives in the first place?-also alcohol is almost always a huge factor in these cases..Slashing the guys throat was ridiculously dangerous & shows no respect for human life...
Either way, dont pretend you're top dawg and stare someone down if you dont want trouble. Be a mature adult and you dont have to worry about these situations. He obviously did it to the wrong person, if he been a mature adult to begin with, this situation would have never happen. Dont make excuses to act like a bad @zz, itll bring you nothing but trouble every time. If youre gonna act like a bad azz, then make sure youre ready and are a bad azz..🍑@@ambientblue-eyedmonkey8849
Its hard to look like you can handle yourself and still not be perceived as a threat, i have been in many situations where it could have went south but somehow have always defused it.
I had a 7” Bowie knife pulled on me recently, got de-escalated luckily…I already have PTSD from previous instances in my life including a gun in the face, the treatment for PTSD is called EMDR and I was told 2 weeks ago the NHS waiting list for this is 12 months😮and a specific trauma centre locally has stopped taking any referrals….trauma is rife😢
I think it’s definitely deliberate. He was looking to kill somebody. I’m convinced that he was drunk. Alcohol impairment kills a person’s ability to think straight. This applies to people who are caught drinking and driving while intoxicated.
Whether or not he meant to do it is pretty irrelevant, the coward brought out a knife with him and just wanted to cut somebody to attempt to project himself as the big hard man. Luckily for him, he is in Britain so his sentence will likely also be irrelevant. I saw a lot of these incidents, mostly glassing, back in the day, so pretty much know the nature of the characters involved.
When i'm at a bar or other functions, i see these types of men glaring at ANYONE who will give them that energy back. I've learned to not give it back. I had seen enough fighting over NOTHING. Too Much. Some just ends in a Black Eye/Busted Lip and some ended in a Stabbing or Shooting. I rarely go out not, but it never really really changes.
im 35 and at this age i still enjoy having drinks with friends, but now we just meet at somebody house, have a barbeque and drinks surrounded by friends only. between 20 and 25 i used to go out ALOT, every weekend going out to club, luckyly never had bad events.
Watched this on another channel obviously no one deserves to die but the lad was pumping the pigeon and staring like he was hard, maybe had previous beef or just chose the wrong man to mess with.
No one can stop this kind of surprises attack... And it is very difficult to maintain a distance in that small space... My techniques are useless in this situation... Best defense is to avoid crowd places...
I went to savemart yesterday and I got quite excited as I found a summer vest for 5 dollars, I presented my five dollar note which coincidentally was the same color as vest and cashier refused to sell it to me as they don't accept cash lol 😂
My question is, why do you say a single slash down? To me it looks like he used the downward motion to deploy the blade and slashed diagonally upwards to slash at the man’s neck, which would make sense as the victim is holding his throat as he’s trying to get away. Or am I just imagining that?
"sometimes when you're a man,you HAVE to fight. But you will find that it is truly (pounds chest) the bigger man,who first chooses to fight with his heart,his mouth,and his mind." Bruce Lee
I was out that night round the corner from where this happened. I remember driving past thinking wow this must be serious. Then we found out who it was and my girlfriend actually knew him. Very sad. RIP mate.
the fact the bigger man had and used a knife rather than fists, especially just for someone looking, is pathetic , cowardly and disgusting
Exactly 💯 sad
@@ancientwarrior777not sad. Cowardly
I'm a bigger dude I'm not using shit but my hands you got this right dude is a coward
Was gonna make this same comment. Dude looked to be a good bit bigger and still used a weapon...smdh
Have to believe alcohol greatly aided in his bad decision here. Not excusing him but just say that’s what it looked like. Alcohol is so socially acceptable yet causes so many problems
I was out 2 weeks ago with my girlfriend and a couple friends of ours celebrating her birthday. A guy from the booth across shouted over to me ‘what the f**k are you looking at?’ He clearly had a few drinks and was looking for a fight. I replied ‘I’m not looking at you. I don’t want any trouble’. I was very embarrassed the fact this happened in front of my gf and I guess theres folk who wouldn’t let anyone speak to them like that and get away with it but everyone was having a good time I didn’t want to ruin it. Towards the end of the night the guy came over to apologise to me and we shook hands. I’m glad I rose above it and just tried to defuse the situation.
That's good sometimes we have to swollow our pride God knows if he had a weapon or has one of his buddies in that club just to hurt you
People who tell you that they’d never let anyone speak to that are full of it. People that actually punch everyone that wants to fight are dead or in jail. You did the right thing. Fight when it really counts. When your life depends on it. Live another day to be a better man. Much love to you and your lady.
Awesome story!
Shouldn't feel embarrassed for handling the situation the way you did... that's what real women really want!
Excellent de~escalation skills my friend❤
I was slashed down the centre of my left nipple many years ago. I didn't pose any threat, I didn't know this group of lads, it wasn't some turf thing. I was 13, my first time in Leeds city centre alone. I don't know if or why I may or not have been targeted. There was never any closure (don't know if anyone was arrested). Just a cheque for £50. I have never gotten over what happened. If I spot a group of kids or adults, I walk the long way round. Now 50 and still can't go to Leeds on my own. In fact, it is very rare I go into the city without good reason. I'm past looking for answers. Just thought I'd share. 👍🙏TY to anyone who reads.
😮 I'm from Leeds. I can't believe this happened to you so long ago. I admit I feel very lucky never having such an altercation. Thank you for sharing your story. I understand life is much worse now.
Took me years to work out I had P.T.S.D. after a similar incident 33 years ago.
The only thing that needs to be understood is that the human mammal is a severely flawed and defective creature. Some more than others. Fortunately the majority of us are decent, civil, reasonable human beings, even when young. You just got unlucky to encounter some who aren't in that category. It is what it is and you can't change that. But you can live the rest of your life with the assurance that it won't happen again. Fate has not singled you out to be a target. Live with that promise and enjoy your existence...
Did you, or have you ever considered therapy for the mental trauma?
Seriously brother get therapy you have ptsd and it can be so impactful on so many things. Hope you are ok tho c
The problem is the guy was bigger and still needed to use a knife.. What a punk.
His intention was not to have a fight.. It was to cut someone & escape without getting caught..
Big guys are just as insecure as smaller guys. You'd think they wouldn't need to be, but hey, pussies gonna pussy. It all comes down to self confidence!
Should not be carrying a knife...and definitely should not have used it
This is one of the many reasons I stopped going to bars.
Bunch of desperate scumbag people go out these days
Yep same
Yep. The sport of the young, and the dumb.
It’s POSSIBLE my man could have actually saved himself from this, but because bars, parades, parties present SO MANY INTERACTIONS that can have similar “energy”, it becomes incredibly difficult to know which one is the true threat situation. If one responds as if it were WRONGLY you just seem like the paranoid vigilante type. No, I’m with you. I don’t do the parties with strangers plied with alcohol in close quarters thing. I’m good.
He was a coward for doing this cowardly act, and taking this other young man's life over absolutely nothing. I hope he rots in prison.
Or better still, prison karma.
He's most probably out now living his life, UK only gives harsh sentences when you rob banks
In England,with our soft touch laws ,no chance mate, unfortunately
@@LordAbhartach I'm sorry to hear that my Brother, be safe and have a happy New Year. God bless 🙏🏻
Josh Hanson - the young man murdered in this video, was a friend to two of my younger brothers.
I know as much as all of you about this evening and no more.
What I can say is this.....Josh was well known as a likeable person, a commited son and sibling to his sister, a hard working man who had a great deal going for him.
He wasn't on steroids and in the midst of roid rage that evening as he postured.
He was well built, young, full of drink and basking in the enjoyment of the company of his friends and girlfriend.
Drink can do funny things to a man and posturing is up there with them all, we all know this and brush off the posturing as it'll pass and we'll go about our usual lives the next day.
He didn't approach Shane, he would've tired of eyeballing Shane, he would have gone home and remembered nothing of it.
Shane made the decision to hurt Josh because his sense of masculinity was threatened.
This was a bar in Ruislip, not the colleseum in Rome.
Shane could have noticed the posturing, laughed it off and enjoyed his evening.
He chose instead to approach Josh, draw a blade and strike him.
He was no ninja, that blade was going to strike in the proximity of his intended aim at best and he knew this.
He murdered Josh for posturing.
That was not Shane's bar, Josh was not his property, he was armed in a bar intended for socialising.
It was an evil act and he had lost any hope of making his life matter in any field or meaningful for it.
Two mother's lost a son that day.
Leave the guns and knives at home or at least if you do carry them....have the decency to write the word COWARD on your forehead, so that young men know not to damage your fragile masculinity when they eyeball you.
RIP Josh.
I’m always armed, am certainly no coward, actively avoid physical confrontation and nor am I slave to ego. You are merely generalising based on this sole instance of a physically unprovoked attack on an unarmed individual (whom spat on the floor whilst looking in the attacker’s direction immediately prior to his own killing btw). You’re obviously emotionally invested in the murder of the ‘small-man syndrome’ suffering individual you know as Josh and your objectivity is clouded as a result. I’ve trained in bladed weaponry my entire adult life (30yrs in predominantly Katana & knife fighting) carrying a knife purely for the purpose of giving my woman and myself the best chance of survival if having no means of escape when accosted by unstable people, like Josh’s killer Shane, whom are intent on murdering me/her/us. I’ve been viciously stabbed on 3 separate occasions in the past, all requiring extensive surgery (but once to repair my bowel, with the injury’s resultant septicaemia almost killing me, by a man I didn’t know and had no prior interaction with). I’m confident that I would have ended it, if armed, before suffering the painful potentiality of my death and the ugly scars that remind me of the trauma on a daily basis. This type of scenario is the only reason I would ever draw my blade. Carrying doesn’t make me a coward, it simply makes me prepared. I have trained in boxing even longer than swords and knives, but am acutely aware of the fact that even though I can pummel any untrained man who attempts to assault me, conversely, any novice with a knife can easily kill me if I’m unarmed and he’s determined = Fact. I’m never getting caught with my pants down again and will certainly never be in a position where I’m too underpowered in order to prevent any harm (whatsoever) occurring to my partner. We never do clubs, or the like, precisely due to the fact that immature wankers like your mate and his unhinged killer frequent them in a lame bid at mistakenly believing that they’re coming across as the hardest one in the room. Due to your uninformed and inexperienced standpoint, you’re obviously young, so I’m not calling for the word “ignoramus” to be tattooed on your forehead.
Edit : R.I.P. to many more than just the one.
We need to teach ourselves and our kids get them trained at a young age in weapons training and martial arts, kids have become soft it's part of a setup the current education system is designed to produce compliant non critical thinking people. I agree it's better to have a weapon and not need it I'm prepared to accept the consequences when defended my loved ones especially if deadly force is needed for self defence
I personally think that the killer did intend to do more than just show the victim a lesson. The move was very well calculated and from what I can see he was not even slightly drunk to not know the damage a strike to the neck can do. Horrible event.
@@Virvum_Juggernaut Carrying a knife is an idea I could never contemplate. A man who is confident of his masculinity does not need to show anyone that that is the case. I understand that your personal experience may have changed the way you look at things, but if it was me, I would by now have realised that using weapons of any kind will have no positive outcome under any circumstances. Even using it as defensive instrument, as you mention, will still lead to life changing circumstances that any self respecting guy will not want. The best strategy is to leave the place before things escalate and getting to live another day as a free happy man together with your loved ones. Trust me, nobody will think you are coward.
You have my condolences. I'm sorry for you're loss.
This is murder. Armed with a knife. Approached the guy who was not a threat. And then cuts him. What a turd.
It's cultural.
You go to a bar in Bogotá, Colombia and no one's looking for a fight. They are more interested in dancing and having a good time.
Why? Because life is tough enough there already and out on the streets it's not so pleasant.
People in the UK haven't got a clue.
One of the Best Comments here above by localbod. I've myself noticed this in Medellin El Poblado, the area which is housefull all the time in evenings/night and weekends. Never heard such things happening here ever. This is quite weird to hear that this thing is such a common thing in UK, as seen from most of the comments.
You're right, it's cultural. I have been living in Bogotá for 6 months and I love it here. Yes, the streets look rough but I have not seen one threatening situation since I have been here. The people are friendly and mind their own business. The bar scene is not as popular here as in the US or UK. Colombians seem to be more focused on work and family. Natural juices populate most drink menus here, not cocktails. Yes, you can order alcohol pretty much anywhere here but it's not shoved in my face like it is in the US.
@@bradad82 If you're out at night stay vigilant and don't use your phone on the street.
I was five minutes from my home with my phone out and got robbed at gunpoint . I fought with one of the muggers and got pistol whipped for my troubles (5 stitches).
Enjoy Colombia and make sure you get to see places like Villa de Leyva, Manizales, Santa Marta, Medellín to name a few.
It's a wonderful country.
Yeah English people never went through 2 World Wars, lol
@@PresidentNotSoSure😂🤡🤡
Posturing , stone island jumper, staring, sniffed up.
Josh didn’t deserve to die for this. It’s a shame that he drew the attention of a pure psychopath.
I was out at a club once, a guy was giving dirty looks to the point where I told my friend I was going to leave to avoid conflict, did not know the guy never seen him in my life, 20mins later I was walking out and he came up to me shoved a gun into my ribs, he was super intoxicated slurring saying things like “you didn’t think I’d see you again” so Many things were going thru my mind at once, should I run, should I grab his gun?, I said to him, I don’t know you, I slowly reached for his gun and pushed it away from my ribs he was just staring at me we we’re almost in a slow motion tug of war it seemed like, as that was happening, a guy walked and told the guy with the gun, it’s not him you got the wrong guy! He grabbed the guys gun and told me to hurry and leave..
1 week later I saw that guy who pointed the gun at me in the local news, he had been shot to death.
Stay safe everyone, people now a days have no respect for human life, stay home and enjoy life with your loved ones.
LIfe is not a video game. That guy went looking for it and found it, at the level he was dishing it out at.
Classic escalation of conflict of scenario that shows us all we need to deescalate and value life more than egotistical murder for power and fear over others. No matter what weapons you have or how tough you are, there is always someone else out there who can do the same thing to you or worse.
Glad you were safe and in a way Im glad that guy is no longer here to threaten or harm anyone else.
Such a shame people get into that lifestyle to begin with. One could imagine that long lived crims in the underworld would also avoid conflict unless its necessary.
Why didn’t you report the incident to the police? You may have saved his life😮
@@Achilles22 Whut ?
What was his name
Just another example of the #1 cause of death in the developed world; ego.
Good speech! I think it's good that no music is played so as not to diminish the importance. Unfortunately, as a guy you often find yourself in such a situation and I often feel how I am followed up because of my height. I hate those moments, because I would like to teach the guys a few manners but I also know how wrong the situation can go.
Be patient in one moment of anger to avoid hundread days of sorrow, choose your battles wisely.
Powerful! A much needed change of pace from the usual self defense lessons. Unfortunately, it appears many aggressors also peruse this video genre; your balance of advice for both parties' perspectives is telling of experience and wisdom beyond compare. Thank you for the reality check and appropriate tone and demeanor that we can all learn from and use to grow into healthy minded male adults.
Thank you for the kind words and support
Well it’s a good thing they also watch. They might learn a thing or two n change their ways
Im 54 now and ive seen my fair share of fights and stand offs. Its only in recent years that i realise how lucky ive been not to have had something similar happen to me. And no, i have never gone out to try and pick a fight, just a normal bloke out with his mates to have a laugh. For whatever reason it just happens, ive seen mates get cut, stabbed, stamped on, recieve broken limbs, all sorts. I haven't gone to pubs or clubs for many years now, i just got sick and tired of the whole cock of the walk bullshit. It really isnt worth it , these days being far worse in my opinion.
Bloke means broke joke right?
No mate, bloke means guy or man.
Not to me @@joebrown5967 it will always sound like a broke joke 😂
This channel is going to save lives keep up the good work!
This kind of situational awareness is one of the most important elements of self defence imo. Thanks for sharing.
No way you could get aware of this kind of attack. Not for this cowardly way, not in a dense place like that club.
Love your channel and how you take the audience thru the reality of violence and our egos. God bless you and your family. We appreciate and enjoy, stay safe💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾🙏
Damn thats a powerful video!!!!threw his life,and another away for nothing.great video brother.....
That fact that he already had the knife in his pocket shows he was already on the look out for a victim. A full on coward for using the knife and for the way in which he sneakily did it!
Idk if it's different in that area but where I grew up it is very normal to carry a knife. Not even for self defense, just as a every day helpful tool. Not defending the guy at all I just think that is a silly assumption to make.
What? So just because you carry a knife means you're looking for some victim? Uhm, No.
@Mayorofsexytown1303 it's beyond silly and ignorant of that guy to think a knife means someone is looking for a victim. As you said, they are a tool for many.
@@billyyank5807 Yeah that's wild to me for someone to even think that, but i live in the south and it's very normal here.
@@billyyank5807 What's it for then, to trim your nose hairs?
Who tries to cut someone with a knife? A coward that's who. Now that young man is dead and he's going to jail for murder.
premeditated murder .... he left the house that day with a razor in his pocket.
Thank you. ❤ This advice is timeless. I've watched the video several times. The movements are very subtle. Took 4th time through to see the knife. New to your channel. Hope these reality checks become a regular feature.💕
Yes they will be. Thanks for watching 🙏
Timeless advice..... Hahaha...... Have you been out of the front door in the last ten year's or so ?????
@@mooncat.787 Yes, but not in situations like this. Body language is important to understand
@@tesswagner895 Good lord calm down.... Ok I was a little ruff on you before but I find this guys instruction literally unbelievable. It's absolutely awful what happened in the video it truly is, but c'mon the chances of it happening around you are next to nothing.
Go out, rock your hips and stamp your feet, it's Christmas relax all is well. This guys profiteering from a despicable murder with ridiculous advice. Remember that ! And when you go out have FUN !!!! Rather than watching what other people are doing.
Much love. X
The important part of self-defence isn't the martial art you use to fight, it's what you look for in a situation.
Situational Awareness if vastly underrated - I go to bars and clubs mostly solo so I am always very careful of how much I drink and aware of what is happening. Anytime a group comes in I am always looking to see if they are the friendly type of a bunch of drunk roosters if they roosters I make sure I am not sitting close to them or making eye contact. Also, I throw my ego out the door if someone steps on my toes or bumps me accidently I am always cool
I can testify to this. Had my throat cut @17,obviously I survived but have to accept my responsibility in the incident also. Always struggled with the balance between projecting confidence and/or a challenge. Extremely exact advice imo for all young men.
you did not deserve to have your throat cut under any circumstances.
@davidshillito5174 I know I did not deserve it but we all play a part. Thankyou anyway.
Survive first Vengeance is God's
Great observations, hardly any martial artist trains for this, at that distance no one would be able to stop that as its too quick and if any instructor says they can they're lying.
Agreed on martial arts side, just wanted to point out most firearms trainers do often teach a form of basic 6ft rule, but in that situation nothing short of getting absolutely lucky (be a prep-movement or just where/how bad the wound ended up being) could save anyone caught in this type of scenario.
There are hard limits on how fast we are, even at our utter best. Would be wise for all of us to be more aware of that and not let ourselves be closed in upon. Simply never know when it is not someone looking for a simple bout of knuckles.
Seemed like a case of a person bolstered on liquid courage, vying for fight, and probably just needed a square meal and bed. Could've easily been avoided in so many ways like stated in this breakdown, instead two families are wrecked.
Just don’t let anyone get inside your personal space, especially in a potentially hostile situation. Sure, it’s kinda hard to do that in a crowded environment, but it can be done
What kind of scumbag takes a knife to a pub/club on a night out?
The lowest of the low.
A lot more than you would think.
The victim was Josh Hanson. I live half a mile from that bar (now closed) in NW London. This sort of thing was very rare here but is becoming more prevalent.
Never ever had such issues where I used to go out, but HOUSE music never attracted those people back upto 15 years ago.
E brought us all together.
Man, Your narration is impeccable.
This was brilliant psychological analysis.. I'm subbing..
You touched on a lot of real life issues and situations.. The only problem I may have a difference of opinion on is.. In a bar environment, it's always different to standard fights, alcohol fuels ego..Ego creates unexpected problems.
With the exception of creating distance, I'm not a big fan of self defence for knife attacks, the sly and speedy way it happens, 9/10, if someone has all the intentions of stabbing /slicing you, (providing its not bluff) they will..
Knife attack... What a coward, clearly doubted his ability to fight..
Great video, once again.. Respect 👍
Spot on. As always, very insightful.
I used to go in the RE bar in Eastcoat with my friend it was only few bus stops to where I live in Northwood. The RE bar was actually a really small bar tiny. But was really friendly. I cant believe that this happened to josh, hard working lad. He lost his life because of his body language. So sad RIP 🌹
Horrible..
The irony of "proving" you're the tough guy by sneak-attacking the "lesser" man with a knife. What a coward.
Intelligent analysis of how and why violence occurs. Conflict is a part of nature and aggression and self worth are hard wired into the human ego. My own key elements to street survival are awareness, avoidance and preparedness by being fit, strong and armed with a little self protection knowledge. Then conduct yourself with quiet dignity, respect and courtesy in public. Many thanks for posting.
I would really like to see a video or a channel talk about the trauma after a confrontation when you do “rise above/walk away etc” I’ve fought in the street and I’ve trained mma for years but I walk away now I am approaching my 30s. but the ego attack when it happens burns me for months finding the balance of staying strong and curb a potential fight N I hang out hope to see that person again n really really hurting them. I suppose it’s because I am insecure and care what people think of me. And I need an experienced mature person to talk about that and I go hope one day it’s Jay Cooper because I have a lot of respect for what he says in these vids and u can tell he’s a fighter that’s confident in himself and probably dealt and consolidated these thoughts as a fighter
Well said.. The afterwards when u go through all the scenarios. Its not easy walking away especially knowing what youre capable of. However like i teach my teenage sons, you never know what the ostranger is capable of either, looks can be decieving and quite often The ental state isnt taken into considertion, some people are capable of great violence, beyond what we see as reasonable..
Yes! 5 months ago I was the bigger man while being threatened on the street. Had my daughter with me.
Showed no fear, defused and walked off... but the whole time I felt like exploding from the adrenaline.
These people live nearby so sometimes I see them which triggers that anxiety again.
Really annoying because I couldnt deal with my feelings then and after. Being the smarter guy does give a very annoying feeling for a long time.
And this was on top of longcovid while I was already weakened and stressed out.
If you feel threatened, NEVER let anybody get within an arms distance. I've seen people approach others hours after an argument has settled just to use a hand shake to bring them in closer before headbutting them and worse.
In a club/ bar Space it's always limited.
Good advice
Comment is glitching or being flagged. Not sure but either way, this is a coward, committing a murder on a fellow club patron. You can't claim self defense when you are the aggressor and the armed individual, and had the time to draw your weapon and attack before the supposed "threat" even got his hands up for a fight. That is an assassination.
I don't know when this incident occurred, but when I was in the UK the risk in a pub confrontation was to get a beer mug smashed in your face with all the nice repercussions. You see, a beer mug is handy, and it is by definition not an illegal weapon you carry on you.
Most importantly, though, the victim in this attack looks clearly unwell standing there before the confrontation. I suspect he was in a poor position to react in any way to protect himself, even by stepping away.
In UK now we have plastic glasses for that exact reason... Also offensive weapons act states that anything can be classed as a weapon just falls down your intention with the item (If I try to hit someone with a controller it becomes a weapon)
In Ohio (US) in the 80s, the courts treated everyone under the age of 18 as a minor, and regardless of the crime, they could only serve 6mo in a juvenile detention facility.
We had guys (gang members) in our neighborhood who would disembowl people publicly and wait for the police to arrive and arrest them.
They'd do their 6mo and get out. It gave them a powerful street credit that you couldn't buy. Many people feared these guys.
I was a #1 target of this gang, and I lived in condition yellow (if not red). They knew they'd have to sneek up on me, and it happened regularly. Luckily, I trained hard, and my stuff worked, or I'd be dead 50x over.
Razors to the soft bits are no laughing matter!
My best advice is this: 1) Don't let people in close. 2) Talk a lot with your hands, often moving them to your face. This makes the timing of a sucker shot difficult. 3) Move around on your feet when people are nearby. Even look a little skitzy. This also limits sneak attacks. 4) Stay closer to walls and other large objects. This limits the variety of angles an attack can come from. 5) Train against sucker shots with your friends. This will greatly increase your reflexes and train in good responses.
Me and my close friends trained all of this into us, and we ALL credit these rules to saving our lives multiple times.
Corn
Excellent but worrying advice
@coasteyscoasteys4150
I definitely appreciate your comment, but I am curious. Why would my advice be worrying?
I can for sure say the legal and social conditions that were in place to lead to my developing this philosophy were worrying. But, my tactics definitely result in becoming a less inviting target.
I'm late 50s now, and just this week, I had two (probably 30 yr old) guys confront me in a parking lot. I know from my experience with hundreds of such encounters, they intended to attack me.
As they confronted me, I even came in fairly close. But, I removed all the targets that guys go for by making changes to our relative positioning, and talking with my hands moving to and from my face.
Most guys who "want to fight" really don't want a fair fight. They want to nail you when you're not expecting it and dominating you. If there's a 30% or better chance they can't, they'll move on.
The sucker punch street fight scenario is almost always about obtaining a reputation for being a bad ass. They will rarely risk a failed attack.
Simply deny them the openings that guys like that look for. I always say the fight starts way before the first punch has been thrown.
To sum up my philosophy: Don't be suckered into putting your guard down, and you can't be sucker punched.
@@cornpop7805
Worrying = about what the juvenile gang members were doing
He knew what he did soon as he did it goin out with a knife is intent itself
Intelligently and very eloquently presented, this vid could save many lives if young men in British society have the sense to get the message.
The problem is that too many guys walk around, thinking life is like a action movie where there are no consequences
Once again, very good observational breakdown. Thanks.
Uk seems to have these issues more than anywhere else from what i notice. Acid attacks etc.
There's a lot of it about@@thehangingtorchofdarkness4769
Thanks for sharing that real life experience of how quickly someone can be killed just for being perceived as a threat
When I was in my early 20’s I had to leave a house party and go to the local off-licence to buy some alcohol. I was drinking at the time. I stepped out of the store and a guy from this local gang tells me to give him my phone and says he has a knife on him. I go back into the store but the owner tells me to leave. I’m on my own and now worried what to do. I boxed since I was young in and out of boxing gyms but I was faced with a life or death situation and facing a knife…as I step back a second guy walks forward and goes to swing a bottle at my face. In that split second I twist and hit him with a right hook and to this day believe i broke his jaw, he dropped to the ground as his friends stepped back. They ended up leaving and I ran back to the house party but it could’ve been a much different ending had I been slashed
I've been attacked by a guy with a knife. Got stitches on my scalp and ear, and there was a tiny cut right across my throat. A millimetre deeper and I could have ended up like this guy.
If you carry anything you're intend to harm!
He gets caught after going on the run by getting arrested in Luxembourg. For what? Fighting in a nightclub ofcourse .
This happened in London and was committed by a traveller/gypsy. The tramp went on the run across Europe and evaded justice for years until caught
Do you have a link to back up your claims? Non travellers are stabbing people everyday in the UK.
RIP Josh
He wasn't a traveler yes he did go on the run and he didn't get caught he handed his self in they made it look like they caught him get ya facts right 🙄
@@georgiecoop3187 I wrote about it for the local paper so I think I know the facts.
You’re spelling tells me you are a fellow traveller so you would have no problem with lying 🤥 yourself 😆
He wasn't a traveler. Grew up in West London ( ladbroke Grove ).
I just can't believe that a first strike to start a fight is to use a knife and intent to scar another man's face for life and for what? Then to find out they died. The poor victim.
I think if someone pulls out a knife in this situation he really wants to kill that's why he cut to death another person.
His ego should be hang on tree together with his owner.
If they want to kill you they wouldn't want to display the knife to you
The UK has always been known for face slashings. It's common, especially in Scotland. The idea isn't to kill but to scar the face.
Cold blooded murder.....i was a bouncer in the 80s......usually several punch ups on the weekend and the odd glassing, but not many. This act was mindless murder. What an earth is the world coming too when people feel the need to carry a knife......especially in a pub or club, it's beyond me, doesn't matter how big or hard someone is, they don't stand a chance in this situation.....for fuck sake leave the knives at home..
That's terrible and frightening how fast it happened feel for the man and his family.
I've seen and been in lots of fights and never understood knifers....
2 ppl toe to toe is one thing if both want it, but glassing and knifing is cowardice and totally unnecessary.
I've also ran, read the situation, we only have one body and life.
I actually have to take my glasses off in order to eat or drink because I’m nearsighted…a condition that seems to become more pronounced after about three adult beverages. As I’ve gotten older, I’ve taken to pushing my specs onto my forehead. This and a gray beard have saved me some hassle. “Whatcha staring at?” is answered by pulling my glasses down and saying, “Dude, I can’t see that far!” It works…or shall I say, worked. Past tense. I stopped hanging out in joints that draw wannabe “alphas” 30 years ago precisely because I got tired of dealing wit crap like this.
RIP, Josh. I’m glad his killer was caught, may he spend the rest of his days in prison🙏🏾🤬
I was a doorman for years and obv Bern 9n nights out, tye victims was showing signs of anxiety nothing more, the murderer must of seen it as a threat
You have a new sub! Great content. What an unfortunate event.
Valuable advisement. Thank you brother
Why are these people carrying knives in the first place?-also alcohol is almost always a huge factor in these cases..Slashing the guys throat was ridiculously dangerous & shows no respect for human life...
To be real honest the guy puffing his shoulders at the bar staring at that guy was looking for trouble. Very sad he lost his life because of it.🙏
Yeah it’s apparent from the footage that he was posturing and looking in O’Briens direction. Very sad situation
@@cjskelton7603 yeah your right mate ,someone did call his bluff alright.🙏
Hes an idiot ive had fights with people because theyre stood across from me acting tough. They never win lmao
@@cjskelton7603 with a knife... seems like a coward believed the "bluff".
Either way, dont pretend you're top dawg and stare someone down if you dont want trouble. Be a mature adult and you dont have to worry about these situations. He obviously did it to the wrong person, if he been a mature adult to begin with, this situation would have never happen. Dont make excuses to act like a bad @zz, itll bring you nothing but trouble every time. If youre gonna act like a bad azz, then make sure youre ready and are a bad azz..🍑@@ambientblue-eyedmonkey8849
Words of true wisdom. Thank you.🙏
Saying this and wearing a shirt with universal and academy tells me everything. In dutch we have a saying "good wine needs no advertising" .
Its hard to look like you can handle yourself and still not be perceived as a threat, i have been in many situations where it could have went south but somehow have always defused it.
It’s reasons like this why I don’t go into pubs and clubs anymore . I don’t get why you have to be seen as the big dog. What is it going to achieve.
this is what scares me going out in this day of age u never no when your time is up keep safe guys
I had a 7” Bowie knife pulled on me recently, got de-escalated luckily…I already have PTSD from previous instances in my life including a gun in the face, the treatment for PTSD is called EMDR and I was told 2 weeks ago the NHS waiting list for this is 12 months😮and a specific trauma centre locally has stopped taking any referrals….trauma is rife😢
Great message thanks for sharing
I think it’s definitely deliberate. He was looking to kill somebody. I’m convinced that he was drunk. Alcohol impairment kills a person’s ability to think straight. This applies to people who are caught drinking and driving while intoxicated.
Good video,a wake up call,thank you.
Shane O’Brien was a coward for pulling a knife on Josh Hanson.
Whether or not he meant to do it is pretty irrelevant, the coward brought out a knife with him and just wanted to cut somebody to attempt to project himself as the big hard man. Luckily for him, he is in Britain so his sentence will likely also be irrelevant. I saw a lot of these incidents, mostly glassing, back in the day, so pretty much know the nature of the characters involved.
When i'm at a bar or other functions, i see these types of men glaring at ANYONE who will give them that energy back. I've learned to not give it back. I had seen enough fighting over NOTHING. Too Much. Some just ends in a Black Eye/Busted Lip and some ended in a Stabbing or Shooting. I rarely go out not, but it never really really changes.
im 35 and at this age i still enjoy having drinks with friends, but now we just meet at somebody house, have a barbeque and drinks surrounded by friends only. between 20 and 25 i used to go out ALOT, every weekend going out to club, luckyly never had bad events.
7:04 at this moment he says : serving a lifetimesentence....not long enough......
Where is the balance in this statement???
Watched this on another channel obviously no one deserves to die but the lad was pumping the pigeon and staring like he was hard, maybe had previous beef or just chose the wrong man to mess with.
No one can stop this kind of surprises attack... And it is very difficult to maintain a distance in that small space... My techniques are useless in this situation...
Best defense is to avoid crowd places...
*Humanity First*
*Love* for all hatred for none
Preach *Empathy*
Already being the bigger man and then still think u need a knife is just sad on his own , he deserves jail time for that … the coward.
Never let anyone you don't know in your space, ever
I went to savemart yesterday and I got quite excited as I found a summer vest for 5 dollars, I presented my five dollar note which coincidentally was the same color as vest and cashier refused to sell it to me as they don't accept cash lol 😂
My question is, why do you say a single slash down? To me it looks like he used the downward motion to deploy the blade and slashed diagonally upwards to slash at the man’s neck, which would make sense as the victim is holding his throat as he’s trying to get away. Or am I just imagining that?
Ive been to this bar many times this small town is known for fights on a Saturday night
Wares that then? Fella.
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Men are always so social. Lovely creatures who really add alot of positivity and safety all around the world.
I used to think that I was tough. One morning, I woke up with my face tenderized. Now I gotta pretend like I don't remember.
Ego is deadly.
"sometimes when you're a man,you HAVE to fight. But you will find that it is truly (pounds chest) the bigger man,who first chooses to fight with his heart,his mouth,and his mind."
Bruce Lee
I was out that night round the corner from where this happened. I remember driving past thinking wow this must be serious. Then we found out who it was and my girlfriend actually knew him. Very sad. RIP mate.
Only a c u n t carries a knife
He looked pissed to me and nearly pucked after drinking his glass down
The bigger man walks away 😊
this guy is on point and has very good insights to human nature. i hope people listen to what he says and not just watch the murder video.
How did the knife get past the front door? Its not that small
Alcohol and egos
My father was a Para back in the 60's , his mate also a Para , would pick a bar fight for no reason , just a look or a wrong place wrong time .
So they were a couple of dickheads then?
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Anybody know the name of the song or artist at the begining of the video?
Excellent! thank you
Whenever I smelled such situations, I got up and went home.
good Lord, that is sooo sad and tragic ! Oh man !!