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  • @GarnetJ
    @GarnetJ 4 місяці тому +33

    The writing on the wall is from Orwell’s “Animal Farm,” but you are correct that there is a lot of influence from Clockwork Orange and other Kubrick movies. This video was done on virtually no budget … they took over a flat of one of Ren’s friends.
    The live acoustic version of this is somehow even more sinister 😼 Ren and Samuel Perry-Falvey filmed it in the back of a city bus. It’s one of my favorites.

    • @IzzyIzenstain
      @IzzyIzenstain  4 місяці тому +1

      I haven't read Animal Farm, but I'm aware of it. I'll check out the acoustic version soon.

  • @LoutTsu
    @LoutTsu 4 місяці тому +15

    Ren has discussed this one with Knox Hill and on his live streams. It started with him beating on drums and he credits Kanye as an influence. He said the rap was just basically a fun rap flex and he wanted to do a song with his voice as the beat. It wasn't until they started conceptualizing the video that they leaned into Animal Farm. Ren said any interpretation that works for the viewer/listener is correct. He has also said he feels more influenced by filmmakers than musicians/songwriters. Directing and film making have been a growing interests for him since Money Game 1, and he has said he sees that as a more feasible future career. I think he may never be able to tour extensively, however, he said last week that his health has improved quite a bit with his treatment in Canada.

  • @Irmelinis
    @Irmelinis 4 місяці тому +17

    favourite part: "Yum yum yum!" in the background when he walks down the stairs 😆

  • @GarnetJ
    @GarnetJ 4 місяці тому +10

    As for the inspiration of this song/video or what it may be about … I think it was just an exploration of a dystopian reality. Ren is fascinated by dystopian literature and films. And as he was writing songs that became the Sick Boi album, I think he was just following wherever the inspiration took him both musically and lyrically. But it is interesting to consider the type of person we might become in a dystopian reality.
    As a side note, not sure if it was necessarily intentional, but this was released right around the coronation of King Charles. I wouldn’t put it past Ren to say something by not exactly saying it 😼
    But going back to Seven Sins, when he was writing the Sick Boi album, it was before “Hi Ren” catapulted him into a more public eye. So he added Seven Sins and Money Game 3 to elevate the album. Not that the other songs were bad, but they were m explorations of different styles.

  • @Vicky61407
    @Vicky61407 4 місяці тому +25

    You have such a soothing voice . Great reaction as always , you are a deep thinker. Sincerely wish you well with everything going forward and hope you achieve all you wish for.

    • @AnneBiebrich
      @AnneBiebrich 4 місяці тому +2

      Yes his voice should be in narratives...stories etc

    • @IzzyIzenstain
      @IzzyIzenstain  4 місяці тому

      Thanks, Vicky!

    • @IzzyIzenstain
      @IzzyIzenstain  4 місяці тому

      Thanks Anne, I'm gonna be trying something like that soon. Maybe Winnie the Pooh to begin with.

  • @darlinesly9364
    @darlinesly9364 4 місяці тому +2

    Ren refers to what he went through as a blessing and a curse.

  • @noorieiversen
    @noorieiversen 4 місяці тому +12

    ### The Erosion of Society Through Neoliberalism: A Critical Analysis
    Neoliberalism, an economic ideology that advocates for free-market capitalism, deregulation, and a reduction in government spending, has been a dominant force in shaping global economic policies since the late 20th century. While proponents argue that neoliberalism promotes economic efficiency and growth, its critics highlight the severe social and economic costs it has imposed on society. This essay critically examines how neoliberalism has contributed to mass poverty, inflation, and the proliferation of the working poor, ultimately eroding the fabric of society.
    #### The Rise of Neoliberalism
    The neoliberal agenda gained significant traction during the 1980s with leaders like Margaret Thatcher in the United Kingdom and Ronald Reagan in the United States championing policies that emphasized market liberalization, privatization, and austerity. These policies were purported to enhance economic freedom and efficiency, but in practice, they often led to increased inequality and social discontent.
    #### Mass Poverty and Inequality
    One of the most glaring outcomes of neoliberal policies is the exacerbation of mass poverty. By prioritizing the interests of capital over labor, neoliberalism has led to the dismantling of social safety nets and the weakening of labor unions. This shift has made it increasingly difficult for the most vulnerable populations to secure decent wages and stable employment. As social welfare programs are slashed in the name of fiscal discipline, those who rely on these services are left without the support they need to survive.
    Moreover, the emphasis on privatization has often resulted in essential services, such as healthcare, education, and housing, becoming less accessible and more expensive. As these services are commodified, they become out of reach for many, thereby deepening poverty and widening the gap between the rich and the poor.
    #### Inflation and Economic Instability
    Neoliberal policies have also contributed to economic instability and inflation. The deregulation of financial markets, a hallmark of neoliberalism, has led to speculative bubbles and financial crises. The 2008 financial crisis, precipitated by the deregulation of the banking sector and the subsequent collapse of the housing market, is a prime example of how unchecked market forces can lead to widespread economic devastation.
    In addition, neoliberal austerity measures often lead to reductions in public investment, which can stifle economic growth and exacerbate unemployment. When governments cut spending to balance budgets, they often do so at the expense of essential public services and infrastructure, leading to long-term economic stagnation.
    #### The Plight of the Working Poor
    Neoliberalism has fundamentally altered the nature of work, leading to the rise of the "working poor." As labor markets become more flexible and deregulated, job security diminishes, and precarious forms of employment, such as temporary contracts, part-time work, and gig economy jobs, become more prevalent. These forms of employment often lack benefits, job security, and sufficient wages to support a decent standard of living.
    Moreover, the weakening of labor unions under neoliberalism has left workers with little bargaining power to negotiate for better wages and working conditions. As a result, many individuals find themselves working long hours without the means to escape poverty, despite being employed. This phenomenon undermines the notion of work as a pathway out of poverty and highlights the failure of neoliberalism to deliver on its promises of widespread prosperity.
    #### Societal Erosion
    The societal impacts of neoliberalism extend beyond economic metrics. The erosion of social cohesion and trust in institutions is a profound consequence of the neoliberal agenda. As inequality rises and public services deteriorate, social tensions and divisions become more pronounced. The commodification of essential services and the relentless pursuit of profit marginalize the most vulnerable, fostering a sense of disenfranchisement and resentment.
    Furthermore, the ideological underpinnings of neoliberalism, which emphasize individualism and self-reliance, undermine the collective social responsibility and solidarity necessary for a cohesive society. This shift in values weakens the social fabric and erodes the sense of community and mutual support that is crucial for addressing collective challenges.
    #### Conclusion
    Neoliberalism, while touted as a pathway to economic efficiency and growth, has had deleterious effects on society. By prioritizing market forces over social welfare, it has exacerbated mass poverty, contributed to economic instability and inflation, and created a growing class of working poor. The social and economic costs of neoliberal policies have eroded the fabric of society, leading to increased inequality, social discontent, and a weakening of communal bonds. As we grapple with the consequences of neoliberalism, it is imperative to critically assess and reimagine our economic policies to prioritize social justice, equity, and the well-being of all members of society.

    • @RenegadeRockChik
      @RenegadeRockChik 4 місяці тому +2

      Shared on Facebook crediting your channel. Thank you for this succinct critique.

  • @anetteandersson2778
    @anetteandersson2778 4 місяці тому +4

    ❤goood one .
    Yup watch again and se if you find al the hiden gems in the video 😊

  • @francesdoll4039
    @francesdoll4039 4 місяці тому +7

    Ren...Taylor Swift
    Ren......Taylor Swift?
    Ren will always challenge my comfort zone. Rouse my passions, challenge my mind.
    We watched Taylor Swift together yesterday..I remember nothing but the beauty of the initial video shot.
    So why is Taylor so popular? Just rhetorical at the moment.
    Animal Flow...rouses.
    I always have first and foremost an emotional reaction to Ren's songs.
    Thanks Izzy. Have a great day.

  • @JoH4LH44
    @JoH4LH44 4 місяці тому +7

    This is one of Ren’s best imo. Nice to hear you’re finding inspiration from the reactions. Enjoyed it. Thanks x

  • @annatraustadottir4387
    @annatraustadottir4387 4 місяці тому +9

    This video is full of references to cinema and art. You should also react to the acoustic version, great performance. Just Ren with his guitar recorded in back of a bus.

  • @helenjarvis7755
    @helenjarvis7755 4 місяці тому +3

    This track is currently on the Mitsubishi Triton advert in Australia according to Ozzy friends
    Ren's team confirmed
    Ren's voice music is its own vibe!

    • @helenjarvis7755
      @helenjarvis7755 4 місяці тому

      I think its a conversation about human nature.
      Power and corruption, chaos and anarchy as he says at the start

  • @patrickquinlan3056
    @patrickquinlan3056 4 місяці тому +7

    I have a hunch Ren wrote this because he had collected dozens of animal masks which were not being used and he already has a relationship with the pig. There were two pigs present. One was chopping up human meat with a human head hanging beside him while another pig had another human tied up and prepared to be butchered and behind that pig was a quote from Orwell's Animal Farm. Lots of Stanley Kubrick references throughout including A Clockwork Orange and The Shining.
    I would call this rap music. It has almost no melody or none I could detect. That beat though reminds me of the traditional Irish drum, the bodhran with its charateristic bobberdy bom bobberty-boberty bom di dom from the likes of The Chieftains and Planxty.
    Ren's tale is one of passing through a dark night of the soul so I am glad you mentioned that. I have contemplated this subject since 1979 just before I passed through my own darkness. We have our Christian story of resurrection. Some insist on taking it literally and won't look at any metaphorical wisdom in that story and that is a waste of good storytelling. I have so much to say on this subject but I tend to keep most of it to myself and a few friends. I would share it more widely but very few want to hear it.

    • @MissyGail4eva
      @MissyGail4eva 4 місяці тому +1

      They had collected a lot of masks, but they were used first in 'Illest of Our Time', no?

    • @patrickquinlan3056
      @patrickquinlan3056 4 місяці тому

      @@MissyGail4eva The first use of a pig mask was in "The Hunger" I believe. I am sure he will find more videos to use them in.

    • @IzzyIzenstain
      @IzzyIzenstain  4 місяці тому +2

      Exactly that, Patrick! It's the metaphorical wisdom I find most fascinating. I really enjoy listening to Jordan Peterson's analyse of some of those stories.

    • @patrickquinlan3056
      @patrickquinlan3056 4 місяці тому +1

      @@IzzyIzenstain Now, I have a different view of Peterson. The first thing I ever noticed about that man wasn't what he said but the way he said it. No matter what he says he manages to say it in the most whiney, whingy, complaining voice. I found it almost impossible to get past his voice because it was telling me so much about him he did not intend to share.
      If I want Jungian commentary I will read Joseph Campbell or Peter Kingsley. Both of those scholars go much deeper into Jung while Peterson skips across the surface perverting Jung's teaching in the process. Needless to say, there are very few voices on the internet I despise more than Peterson's. I don't understand how anyone can listen to him.
      Sorry to be so contrarian but that guy rubs me up the wrong way each time he opens his mouth. I heard he had some kind of nervous breakdown recently. I wasn't remotely surprised.
      PS. I think the ruling by the US supreme court has shaken me to my core. America now has a monarch with almost limitless power. My grasp of Peterson's opinions tells me he will celebrate this ruling. I am scared for my American friends.

    • @adawn1111
      @adawn1111 2 місяці тому

      Have you watched Peterson's biblical lectures? ​@@IzzyIzenstain

  • @optimistinmyprime
    @optimistinmyprime 4 місяці тому +6

    Thanks Izzy. Appreciated your self reflection on this one. Growth is good 👍(I know some in their senior years who've deliberately avoided self reflection and stunted their personal growth, and relationships, a long time ago. )

  • @mattrleon
    @mattrleon 4 місяці тому +4

    Us Renagades have been pondering how to categorize Ren from day one.. He's Ren that's is category.

  • @kimberlymartell4555
    @kimberlymartell4555 4 місяці тому +3

    Yes acoustic version next please!!

  • @stacy4823
    @stacy4823 4 місяці тому +3

    If you want to catch the lyrics, listen to Ren's acoustic version of this. It amazes me that he can take one of his songs and switch it up so much by doing an acoustic version. The lyrics really stand out in that.

  • @brendabromley5528
    @brendabromley5528 4 місяці тому +3

    Thanks for the great reaction Izzy!🖤

  • @SickBoiRENegade
    @SickBoiRENegade 4 місяці тому +1

    You are the only reactor I've seen notice Ren's voice during the sheep line! I love how creative and intentional he is. I've seen hundreds, if not thousands of Ren reactions and you are top tier m8!🫶🤘

  • @Kmbrgss
    @Kmbrgss 4 місяці тому +3

    I'll never tire of your depth and complexity. Thank you.

  • @vixendixon6943
    @vixendixon6943 4 місяці тому +1

    Philosophical Mind!! I like it. Exploring Mind within the constraints of One's Mind is a lonely endeavour.
    Share Share Share

  • @davidarmes747
    @davidarmes747 4 місяці тому +1

    Speaking of the desert... Jim Morrison had the right idea didn't he!!

  • @Snarky_Tart
    @Snarky_Tart 4 місяці тому +6

    Ren is the direct opposite of vegetarianism. Due to his extreme reactivity to food, he's been on the lion diet for years. It's a strict carnivorous regimen, where you ingest only meat, salt, water and herbs. George Orwell (Animal Farm, 1984) is one of his favorite authors and Kubrick is one of his favorite filmmakers - this video is a shoutout to both of them. The acoustic version is one of my favorites, and the lyrics are much more clear. I'd love you to react to it ❤

    • @MizCriz46
      @MizCriz46 4 місяці тому +3

      There are 1 or 2 vegetables he can eat. Those orange chunks you've seen him stuff in his mouth while eating during livestreams are undoubtedly butternut squash.. There's also an interview in which he said that someone had recently cooked squash with coriander for him & how much he liked the combo. It's foods with histamines that he cannot have, which is indeed a very short list.

    • @MissyGail4eva
      @MissyGail4eva 4 місяці тому +1

      and don't forget the _aubergines!_ 😅

    • @IzzyIzenstain
      @IzzyIzenstain  4 місяці тому +1

      I'll check out the acoustic version soon!

  • @iamsquatty
    @iamsquatty 4 місяці тому +3

    Now you need to do the acoustic version of this 😁💜💜😊

  • @cherylmack1260
    @cherylmack1260 4 місяці тому +1

    Surviving the dark nights of ourselves. It took me until I was 40. and 60 to quite smoking. I can so relate. The one area with the dogs playing cards with the red light above the table is a famous painting.

  • @surrepticius.poetinus2292
    @surrepticius.poetinus2292 18 днів тому +1

    Orwell's "Animal Farm" + a 'spin' on ... Napoleon XIV: "They're coming to take me away" song from WAY-BACK.
    the meaning is in the first :30 seconds of the song --understand THAT and you'll GET - IT ... PURE FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ...HAPPY HOLY-WEEN (the day before "All-Saints-Day")!

  • @krikat3485
    @krikat3485 4 місяці тому +1

    George Orwell’s ‘Animal Farm’ was a similar theme, although Ren did not create it with Orwell in mind, but only later realized the similarity.

    • @IzzyIzenstain
      @IzzyIzenstain  4 місяці тому

      I just recorded a reaction to the Acoustic version. Will be out in a few days.

  • @RENegadeMaster77
    @RENegadeMaster77 4 місяці тому +1

    If you keep your eyes peeled,you may spot A Clockwork Orange make an appearence in another video.....

  • @robingayle68
    @robingayle68 4 місяці тому +1

    I would call it lavish ❤ and Ren's genre is Ren 😂

  • @Lulabee2024
    @Lulabee2024 4 місяці тому +1

    I love your brain. Your thoughts are intriguing. I'm pleased to hear ACTUAL CRITICAL THINKING about WTF this life may or may not have to offer and how its offered up and how one might receive it. And how MUSIC sends your thoughts. Respect.

  • @mauraleib
    @mauraleib 4 місяці тому +1

    Never thought I’d encounter the Mighty Boosh in a Ren reaction! Blast from the past…Great reaction to Animal Flow. The writing on the wall in the beginning is quoting George Orwell’s Animal Farm. That provides some context. Basically once the animals took over the farm they became at least as bad as the farmer they ousted. Hmmm. So glad music is opening back up for you 🎉

    • @IzzyIzenstain
      @IzzyIzenstain  4 місяці тому

      Thanks, Maura! The Boost were great!

  • @vanessadrazich9523
    @vanessadrazich9523 4 місяці тому +1

    Love your reactions! The song is based on the book Animal Farm.

  • @mickmccarthy952
    @mickmccarthy952 4 місяці тому +1

    Yesss a Might Boosh reference 👏🏻👍🏻 great reaction as always 👏🏻👏🏻

  • @activelyopen8468
    @activelyopen8468 4 місяці тому +3

    Definitely a Clockwork Orange influence on the style. And the message of the video is "Animal Farm." To the point of Ren as the leader, walks with a limp. In "animal farm," the pigs became the leaders and were the most equal of all. At the end, they rose up and walked on two feet. With an odd limp, as you could imagine.
    If you aren't familiar with "Animal Farm," I think you would like it.
    I'm going to check out The Mighty Bouche.

    • @MissyGail4eva
      @MissyGail4eva 4 місяці тому

      I'm from the U.S. and have always liked British shows and the dry humour but The Mighty Bouche solidified my fandom in their comedic stylings. 😊

    • @IzzyIzenstain
      @IzzyIzenstain  4 місяці тому

      Interesting stuff, David. I haven't read it yet, but I'm planning too. To help with your search, it's spelt The Mighty Boost. Nice one!

    • @MissyGail4eva
      @MissyGail4eva 4 місяці тому

      @@IzzyIzenstain I have a feeling Noel Fielding would be disappointed in both of us for our incapability to wrangle our collective spell checkers...
      B*O*O*S*H 😭😭😭😭😭

    • @activelyopen8468
      @activelyopen8468 4 місяці тому

      @@MissyGail4eva he would probably want to do a skit about it.

  • @brucegorst8005
    @brucegorst8005 4 місяці тому +1

    There is a case to be made that Gaddafi was one of the greatest leaders of our time. As I understand it, when digging for oil, he discovered an inexhaustible source of primary water beneath the desert and spent years building infrastructure to deliver it to poor Africans, offering them free land and seeds if they chose to become farmers and feed the continent. He was close to delivering on his vision when the U.S. military took him out in 2011.

    • @IzzyIzenstain
      @IzzyIzenstain  4 місяці тому

      I had a feeling it was something like this. Thanks, Bruce!

    • @brucegorst8005
      @brucegorst8005 4 місяці тому

      @@IzzyIzenstain Found it. Search for Great Manmade River. Wikipedia entry is surprisingly truthful.

    • @brucegorst8005
      @brucegorst8005 4 місяці тому

      @@IzzyIzenstain Found it. Search for Great Man-Made River.

  • @bonnievonbraun6276
    @bonnievonbraun6276 4 місяці тому +5

    Orwell, Kubrick, and Ren . . . So many cultural references, shallow and deep, conscious and and unconcious. Ren's usual themes of a culture of greed, and being blind to the manipulations of power and money. You are now required by law (in the Reniverse) to watch the acoustic of this. It is even more disturbing.

    • @IzzyIzenstain
      @IzzyIzenstain  4 місяці тому

      Gonna do the acoustic version as my next Ren reaction. Thanks, Bonnie!

  • @hairylegs75
    @hairylegs75 4 місяці тому

    The Mighty Boosh, yes dude! Loved it 😂

  • @DogDocKat
    @DogDocKat 4 місяці тому +2

    Another great reaction and analysis, Izzy! This is such a creative video. Check out the live acoustic as well - performed with an acoustic guitar on a moving bus 💜💜

  • @tjh5716
    @tjh5716 4 місяці тому +1

    Did you see the acoustic live version ? It’s gold😮

  • @cherylmack1260
    @cherylmack1260 4 місяці тому +1

    Animal Farm story.

  • @JoeYo77
    @JoeYo77 4 місяці тому +1

    This is one of his out there songs. I don’t know if he was completely sober when he created this but clockwork orange is an interesting comparison. Dealing with the healthcare in the United States as we speak is really a nightmare. My pops who was in the army in Vietnam and then a cop for the NYPD for 33 yrs and 9/11 was his last day of work. He lost a bunch of his guys in both instances causing PTSD in my opinion and is the root cause of his Parkinson’s disease and he’s on about 10 pills a day and of course the most effective medication is rather new and costs almost 5000 USD per month for 30 tablets which isn’t covered by insurance or charity or anything else. Fortunately one of his Dr has many connections and is able to get us free samples most of the time these days but just imagine donating your entire life to serve and protect your country but when the time comes you feel as if your country does not really even care. He’s on hospice care for the past few months so he’s been battling all his life. I know several people who go to Canada for asthma medication or diabetes medication because it’s so much cheaper even after driving or flying to Canada. Ren has spoken on this pertaining to himself.
    Canada is dealing place with the doctors that he needs but at the time the doctors could afford. He said now he has the money to go to any doctor that he was, but I have a feeling that he’ll continue with his current doctor and after a brief stint in the UK he will tour the states and be close to his doctors in Canada. Just because you have it why spend it all on medical bills?! Anyway reaction as usual!

  • @jeffford493
    @jeffford493 4 місяці тому +1

    Great reaction! Just in case you don't already know... you can pause and restart a video by pressing the space bar. Also, you can rewind or fast forward 5 seconds, by hitting the arrow keys.

    • @IzzyIzenstain
      @IzzyIzenstain  4 місяці тому

      Thanks, Jeff! I did know, It's just easier with my set up to use the mouse, as the keyboard is a little out of reach.

  • @myksargon909
    @myksargon909 4 місяці тому

    Great reaction, subbed for ren❤

  • @achebwahs1111
    @achebwahs1111 4 місяці тому +1

    Hahaha, I can't believe you brought up the Mighty Boosh! That was an hilarious show. The Nightmare of Milky Joe episode was off its chops. "Is he hitting you!", "but the full moon is the famous moon and ah like 3/4, no one gives a shit about him", "The gothic 3-Way". I'd forgotten about it. I'll have to revisit it again. As for the dark night of the soul and whether it is inevitable or not,. It's a question I'd given plenty of consideration to for over a decade now. Am I any closer to knowing rhe answer? Not particularly. I'd never heard the term, until a stranger I met, in what was seemingly random circumstances actually stopped and asked if I was ok. This was late 2012 and I was 9 months into a very brutal and sometimes beautiful awakening process. She was the only person to that point who believed I wasn't insane and explained what was going on. An angel

    • @IzzyIzenstain
      @IzzyIzenstain  4 місяці тому

      It's a great show! I'd forgotten how much I loved it. I feel ya on the brutal and sometimes beautiful aspects of it. At times I could have done with an Angel like that.

  • @spruce381
    @spruce381 4 місяці тому +1

    Another great reaction - not pop, it’s musical and visual art.
    Looks like an expensive production, but friends and a camera - it’s the concept that lifts it.
    The 40 days and 40 nights of solitude - Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha.
    40 years in the Sinai desert - in the story anyway.

  • @margaretpickholtz8772
    @margaretpickholtz8772 4 місяці тому

    Izzy you are taking a deep dive today!

    • @IzzyIzenstain
      @IzzyIzenstain  4 місяці тому

      They're the most fun ones, Margaret!

  • @fangirl6115
    @fangirl6115 4 місяці тому

    ❤ Boosh 😁

  • @elisabethstermo9396
    @elisabethstermo9396 4 місяці тому

    #freesickboi#savesickboi#sickboi#renmakesmusic

  • @poisonidea
    @poisonidea 4 місяці тому

  • @junction6_m27VNC
    @junction6_m27VNC 4 місяці тому +5

    This video cost Ren hardly anything as the house it’s filmed in was a friends, the props where “borrowed” or blatantly stolen and the cast of over 80 people was made up of friends and their friends, Ren proves you don’t need to throw a zillion pounds at video to make it special you just need to be creative

  • @blackpanther3912
    @blackpanther3912 3 місяці тому

    If I had to guess, the US was probably threatening Cuba at the time, so Russia set up missiles on Cuba to protect it from US ambition... So the US continued it's underhanded coup efforts.

  • @LME1975
    @LME1975 3 місяці тому

    Don't you mean " bath street boys" lol

  • @tafinzer
    @tafinzer 2 місяці тому

    I see that the idealism of collectivism, socialism and communism have one built-in common failure, we humans are greedy. History proves it over and over again.
    The very crux of the attack on capitalism or consumerism for its tendency towards greed, has the same commonality. Someone always owns the tree.
    I prefer capitalism. It is actually the only equallizer of all. Life is not free for all, it requires labor from all. Liberty offers choice and self determination. Helping those that cannot serve themselves is the troublesome part, that is the only place where collectivism seems necessary in my opinion. So much complexity.

    • @IzzyIzenstain
      @IzzyIzenstain  2 місяці тому +1

      It is complex. I guess there is no perfect system, but this is probably the best so far.

  • @pollyg562
    @pollyg562 4 місяці тому

    how 2 make the worst reaction video ME ME ME

  • @pollyg562
    @pollyg562 4 місяці тому

    i can c ? your channel is dead

  • @Oitsugina93
    @Oitsugina93 4 місяці тому