That empire strat... I was theory crafting about something similar, and I am so happy to see it actually used! I thought of the use of a combo between Toddy, Brukner, A death caster, A shadow caster for the leadership NUKE. FOR the explicit reason of disintegrating deamons! The reason why Khorn looked ahead on value but basically had no army at the end, is probably because of HOW MUCH damage due to disintegration that did not track as value! I had two ideas, the first one costs too much with a lower total leadership debuff but offers an anti lord goonsquad for a risky play on the -16 of losing the lord. That is why there is the second one: 1) Toddy, Brukner and Ulrika. To have a lord sniping goon squad as Brukna and Ulrica can get an INSANE - 95 % speed debuff and -48 mele defense for at least 25 seconds! with skjalandir's fall and titan headsman... I don't think a lord can survive that long being hit in melee by the 3 of them for 29 sec. They basically have 800 Ap damage between the 3 of them. With the longest attack interval of boris at 4.7 that is at least 6 attacks. So 4800 damage... This is me lowballing it not counting non ap damage and the lower attack interval of the other two heros... Think of it as compensation for the general jankiness of the game XD PLUS You get all the passive leadership debuffs for a -16 by the two gigachads and a cast of the withering by the third gigachad Ulrika for another -8 that also lowers armor! So a total of -24 2) Toddy, Brukner and a death caster. For a much cheaper version but with a bit less goon squad lord sniping potential! Spirit leach can compensate but nothing close to a 29 second of being bonked by 3 duelist lords while debuffed XD Ps: Ulrika seems bonkers op to me, I mean her debuff is INSANE, and she can apply in ON CONTACT to multiple opponent every 120 second for 26 sec...
Great plays by outerregion. I love that doom and darkness morale shock play, big fan of it my self as a campaign player. If you can work it in.. a couple more fear/terror or other morale effects to go with it, though most of the scary stuff for empire is very expensive (the obvious ones being demis and stanks.)
Hey Turin, how about a casual tourney where you allow campaign exclusive units? I would love to see what sort of crazy shenanigans people would come up with!
We need to start a petition to have Turin remove the screen blocker in the army builder phase. I personally find that part fascinating. We’ll just perma ban anyone under suspicion of stream sniping. No proof needed, KGB style
And miss out on wokkie? I THINK NOT! Jokes aside I think it could be a good idea to do a tutorial style casts of some of his tournament games where he shares his build thought process! After the fact so it is not casting while playing. Which is btw an amazing skill... The dude can do a play by play AS he is fighting the best tournament players and not only keep up but WIN some tournaments... Like a dojo master beating up the youngling at teaching them at the same time.
I think doing a stream with pwn or a friend where he does theory crafting against recommended pics by chat would be better. Let him have his sweat in tournaments and make a casual stream that does that. I would certainly watch and the voice coms bants with @Profpwn is always class 🙏
Very few (if any) will cheat. The reason I like the screenblocker is that it stops toxic streamviewers from accusing Turins opponents of cheating. Imagine if Turin didnt use screenblocker and someone brings a build that counters Turins. Many would start accusing them of cheating.
Tzeench vs Vampire Coast - 12:45
Tzeench vs The Empire 49:40
Tzeench vs Kislev 1:22:25
Tzeench vs Chaos Dwarfs - 1:49:50
Semis - 2:24:05
Finals - 2:51:10
had to go to bed before stream ended. Went directly to the comments for THIS post to finish it.
You’re the actual best, I mentioned tzeentch and you delivered, you’re so awesome buddy, thank you
That Khorne-Empire match in the semis was intense!
That empire strat... I was theory crafting about something similar, and I am so happy to see it actually used!
I thought of the use of a combo between Toddy, Brukner, A death caster, A shadow caster for the leadership NUKE.
FOR the explicit reason of disintegrating deamons!
The reason why Khorn looked ahead on value but basically had no army at the end,
is probably because of HOW MUCH damage due to disintegration that did not track as value!
I had two ideas, the first one costs too much with a lower total leadership debuff but offers an anti lord goonsquad for a risky play on the -16 of losing the lord. That is why there is the second one:
1) Toddy, Brukner and Ulrika.
To have a lord sniping goon squad as Brukna and Ulrica can get an INSANE - 95 % speed debuff and -48 mele defense for at least 25 seconds! with skjalandir's fall and titan headsman... I don't think a lord can survive that long being hit in melee by the 3 of them for 29 sec. They basically have 800 Ap damage between the 3 of them.
With the longest attack interval of boris at 4.7 that is at least 6 attacks. So 4800 damage... This is me lowballing it not counting non ap damage and the lower attack interval of the other two heros... Think of it as compensation for the general jankiness of the game XD
PLUS
You get all the passive leadership debuffs for a -16 by the two gigachads and a cast of the withering by the third gigachad Ulrika for another -8 that also lowers armor!
So a total of -24
2) Toddy, Brukner and a death caster.
For a much cheaper version but with a bit less goon squad lord sniping potential!
Spirit leach can compensate but nothing close to a 29 second of being bonked by 3 duelist lords while debuffed XD
Ps: Ulrika seems bonkers op to me, I mean her debuff is INSANE, and she can apply in ON CONTACT to multiple opponent every 120 second for 26 sec...
Great plays by outerregion. I love that doom and darkness morale shock play, big fan of it my self as a campaign player. If you can work it in.. a couple more fear/terror or other morale effects to go with it, though most of the scary stuff for empire is very expensive (the obvious ones being demis and stanks.)
Hey Turin, how about a casual tourney where you allow campaign exclusive units? I would love to see what sort of crazy shenanigans people would come up with!
Love your idea of a Dom faction war with different casters. Hitman Hippo, Maverick Sloth, and Outerregion could all be great casters.
Those were some beautiful Empire games! And you definitely got better at Tzeentch over the course of the night.
It’s been cool having all these tournaments. I have them on in the background while I paint.
IMO the right way to play against vampire coast is mass pink and blues. they wreck coast shooting and can fight well enough in melee to actually win
Yes love to see you in the blues of Tzeentch!
Tzeench is my fav. I just want to see my favourite unit added. Tzangor skyfires.
lol i wish i could win a nurgle army already painted, that's a sweet prize, shame i would not have a chance in the chaos waste to win that !😅
You may have needed something more killy if you are using Harry and Aekold combined. Also maybe a smaller map since both are on foot
We need to start a petition to have Turin remove the screen blocker in the army builder phase. I personally find that part fascinating. We’ll just perma ban anyone under suspicion of stream sniping. No proof needed, KGB style
Screw that. you get to see what his build was afterwards anyway.
And miss out on wokkie? I THINK NOT!
Jokes aside I think it could be a good idea to do a tutorial style casts of some of his tournament games where he shares his build thought process!
After the fact so it is not casting while playing.
Which is btw an amazing skill... The dude can do a play by play AS he is fighting the best tournament players and not only keep up but WIN some tournaments...
Like a dojo master beating up the youngling at teaching them at the same time.
You’re wanting to start a petition to undermine the channel’s identity.
I think doing a stream with pwn or a friend where he does theory crafting against recommended pics by chat would be better. Let him have his sweat in tournaments and make a casual stream that does that. I would certainly watch and the voice coms bants with @Profpwn is always class 🙏
Very few (if any) will cheat. The reason I like the screenblocker is that it stops toxic streamviewers from accusing Turins opponents of cheating. Imagine if Turin didnt use screenblocker and someone brings a build that counters Turins. Many would start accusing them of cheating.
Right
Spoilers ahead
SIGMAR(Mostly Ulrik really) BLESSED us this day!
MLG?
No more AoE or AoM? Just wall to wall warhammer? Sad.