Does anyone else feel like we should bring back mourning etiquette to a certain extent? In our modern day, after a funeral you're just expected to get over it.
White is also a mourning color. Her Majesty’s own mother, the Dowager Queen, wore designs by the incomparable Sir Norman Bishop Hartnell on the passing of her own mother. Hartnell’s designs were white mourning in color. Upon her arrival in Paris she took the entire country by storm.
I'm putting together a Victorian inspired mourning ensemble because my friend just died and I need to express this in a healthier way than I have been.
These Victorian's sound like a fun bunch of folks. I have seen some of the hair art and jewelry it is actually beautiful even more so because it was made from their loved ones hair, they would collect loved ones hair as they passed away and basically make family tree art with the hair.
Now I Lay Me Down to Sleep is a charity for parents and families experiencing early infant death. One of the services they provide is volunteer photographers who will come to the hospital and take pictures of your infant. Culturally, stillborn children aren't considered to have ever been "alive," but parents can't just pretend they never existed. These photographs are supposed to bring healing and awareness.
In the last part what you are referring to was called a "wake" and is now what we sometimes do the day or two before the persons funeral. But this was to ensure the person was indeed dead. This was also before embalming was in regular practice.
The dead is super heavy to be in a pose so I don’t they use those devices to make them stand up. Since it took a long time for a photo to shoot. People use those devices to stay still for the photo.
Thank so so much for this video! I want to write my bachelor thesis on the topic and I am curious where you read about all this. Do you have any recommendations? :)
Just wanted to say I really enjoyed your video and learned a lot, too, I knew something about all this but didn' t know you could HIRE professional mourners! Love your black outfit, too! Congrats on a job well done!
Exactly what Gemma LT said! Death was very common and a part of every day life throughout history. The Victorians just went about death and mourning in a very interesting and somewhat flashy way.
There was also the influence of Queen Victoria. The Queen married her cousin Albert (very common at the time, especially in royal families), and she was, by all accounts, extremely devoted to him. She consulted him on important political matters despite his near-nonexistent ability to maneuver politically (the husband of the Queen is not automatically a king, especially bc Albert was of lowly rank before his marriage, and not well off financially either), allowed him to plan and create important public works programs (the Crystal Palace was one of these), and was generally in love with him up until his early death from typhoid. Queen Victoria plunged into mourning her husband in a way that directly influenced the rest of her subjects at that time. It was she who extended her mourning period, wore black for longer than the previous mourning etiquete had recommended at the time, had the now black borders on her royal stationary made wider. She had statues commissioned and a portrait painted, and several other such activities. Reportedly she even slept with his nightshirt in her arms after his death.
hey :) So, have you heard of the Thanatos Archive? It's a website (maybe it's just their FB page) that is all postmortem photos. Also, it's rad that you use historical clothes lol hope to see new vids soon 🤙
I borrowed this from a friend and I think he bought it from a woman who only does victorian, but I think you could find a lot of people who make historical reproductions from the 1900s with a quick google search or looking on Instagram 😊 There are a lot of people out there! Good luck!
ik I'm like... a year late to the party here but I'd just like to point out that in the photograph used as an example of "posed to look like they're alive" the man being photographed is, in fact, very much still alive (in the photograph, of course). the device you see being used to prop up his head was often used in victorian photography to help make sure the (living) subject remains as still as possible for the long exposure photograph because any amount of movement would result in blurriness in the final product.
Exactly. Stands were ONLY used to help a living subject hold a pose the time required for a photo, and could not support dead weight. True Victorian post mortem photos were actually rare, but quite obvious, with the decedent lying in repose in a bed or coffin.
Love your mourning attire!
Does anyone else feel like we should bring back mourning etiquette to a certain extent? In our modern day, after a funeral you're just expected to get over it.
White is also a mourning color. Her Majesty’s own mother, the Dowager Queen, wore designs by the incomparable Sir Norman Bishop Hartnell on the passing of her own mother. Hartnell’s designs were white mourning in color. Upon her arrival in Paris she took the entire country by storm.
I'm putting together a Victorian inspired mourning ensemble because my friend just died and I need to express this in a healthier way than I have been.
These Victorian's sound like a fun bunch of folks. I have seen some of the hair art and jewelry it is actually beautiful even more so because it was made from their loved ones hair, they would collect loved ones hair as they passed away and basically make family tree art with the hair.
Now I Lay Me Down to Sleep is a charity for parents and families experiencing early infant death. One of the services they provide is volunteer photographers who will come to the hospital and take pictures of your infant. Culturally, stillborn children aren't considered to have ever been "alive," but parents can't just pretend they never existed. These photographs are supposed to bring healing and awareness.
In the last part what you are referring to was called a "wake" and is now what we sometimes do the day or two before the persons funeral. But this was to ensure the person was indeed dead. This was also before embalming was in regular practice.
Professional mourners date back to ancient Rome.
The dead is super heavy to be in a pose so I don’t they use those devices to make them stand up. Since it took a long time for a photo to shoot. People use those devices to stay still for the photo.
Thank so so much for this video! I want to write my bachelor thesis on the topic and I am curious where you read about all this. Do you have any recommendations? :)
Just wanted to say I really enjoyed your video and learned a lot, too, I knew something about all this but didn' t know you could HIRE professional mourners! Love your black outfit, too! Congrats on a job well done!
i luv this yt chanel its rlly cool to see someone also has a love for history :D
Thank you so much, that means a lot 😊❤
I know hundreds of women who are still wearing bonnets like that regularly to attend church and family gatherings
why were they used to death?
Mortality rates were very high, especially for babies and young children.
Exactly what Gemma LT said! Death was very common and a part of every day life throughout history. The Victorians just went about death and mourning in a very interesting and somewhat flashy way.
There was also the influence of Queen Victoria. The Queen married her cousin Albert (very common at the time, especially in royal families), and she was, by all accounts, extremely devoted to him. She consulted him on important political matters despite his near-nonexistent ability to maneuver politically (the husband of the Queen is not automatically a king, especially bc Albert was of lowly rank before his marriage, and not well off financially either), allowed him to plan and create important public works programs (the Crystal Palace was one of these), and was generally in love with him up until his early death from typhoid. Queen Victoria plunged into mourning her husband in a way that directly influenced the rest of her subjects at that time. It was she who extended her mourning period, wore black for longer than the previous mourning etiquete had recommended at the time, had the now black borders on her royal stationary made wider. She had statues commissioned and a portrait painted, and several other such activities. Reportedly she even slept with his nightshirt in her arms after his death.
hey :)
So, have you heard of the Thanatos Archive? It's a website (maybe it's just their FB page) that is all postmortem photos. Also, it's rad that you use historical clothes lol hope to see new vids soon 🤙
id love to know where you got you dress and if that shop has dresses for around 1900s? thanks so much!!!
I borrowed this from a friend and I think he bought it from a woman who only does victorian, but I think you could find a lot of people who make historical reproductions from the 1900s with a quick google search or looking on Instagram 😊 There are a lot of people out there! Good luck!
Think the professional mourning would be a very easy job being paid to walk and cry and say oh I knew the dead very well
Women didn't get the short end of the stick, just the way it was back then.
ik I'm like... a year late to the party here but I'd just like to point out that in the photograph used as an example of "posed to look like they're alive" the man being photographed is, in fact, very much still alive (in the photograph, of course). the device you see being used to prop up his head was often used in victorian photography to help make sure the (living) subject remains as still as possible for the long exposure photograph because any amount of movement would result in blurriness in the final product.
Exactly. Stands were ONLY used to help a living subject hold a pose the time required for a photo, and could not support dead weight. True Victorian post mortem photos were actually rare, but quite obvious, with the decedent lying in repose in a bed or coffin.