Joe Clinton: R. Buckminster Fuller's Jitterbug: its fascination and some challenges
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- This clip is from Joe Clinton's talk on "R. Buckminster Fuller's Synergetic 'Jitterbug:' its fascination and some challenges" at the Synergetics Collaborative's special session on Buckminster Fuller's Synergetics and Mathematics at the 2008 Spring Eastern Meeting (#1036) of the American Mathematical Society (AMS) at the Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences at New York University (15 March 2008).
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The Synergetics Collaborative's Special Session on Buckminster Fuller's Synergetics and Mathematics convened 12 papers on mathematics related to Fuller's work. The full schedule with links to abstracts of all papers are available at
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Video Editor: Victor Acevedo, Digital artist and Visual Music producer/director. A member of the Synergetics Collaborative and a long-time student of RBF and Synergetics. Recently he's been working with Collaborative member Thomas Miller on his Newtools project.
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Loved this lecture - thank you for sharing!
Change with no change - our universe - rotation and Logos ; dance and dancer
I’m from Deep River, Ontario, a small town. I always wanted to come here. I won this jitterbug contest. That sort of led to acting. You know, wanting to act.
This is the first use of computer graphics to do something that is significant that I encountered. It also discards cartesain mathematics. I wonder what does he mean when he says "I studied this", "I studied that".
For those wondering who ElusiveCube is, and wondering about all the raving graffiti, that's Frank Zubek, the author of a number of incoherent UA-cams wherein he flails away, putting various ideas in a blender and coming up with his own unique ketchup, coffee and cigarette butt smoothie. I recommend you watch his UA-cams and decide for yourself whether he's just blowing hot air. The concentric hierarchy is easy to explain, fun to watch him make a total mess of it, even educational.
It is fascinating, could we have a process of spherical symmetry forming and breaking with the wave particle duality of light and matter in the form of electrons acting like the bits or zeros and ones of a computer forming an interactive process relative to the atoms of the periodic table. In such a theory the wave particle duality is continuously forming a blank canvas that we can interact with turning the possible into the actual! This is a very nice video!!!
All transubtantiation - the nada becomes todo
@ElusiveCube There are many ways to collaborate. Individualistic cut-throat market capitalism is a form of collaboration. Also, kumbaya and forms of socialism as you point out. War is even a form of collaboration of sorts. Collaboration can be complex; it can take many forms. The technology used for collaboration matters. Collaboration can embrace differences including different interpretations. Sometimes it covers up differences with "collective thinking". We are both correct on this.
@ElusiveCube Frank, it's me CJ Fearnley who maintains the SynergeticsCollab account.
I do not think this video's comments is the appropriate place to discuss your cosmic hierarchy. I am on a long term project to try to understand Fuller's and your cosmic hierarchy. I want to understand the differences. But I am not currently able to follow your arguments. Repeating them is not really helping me. I need to work through this on my own a bit more. Then I'll ask you questions.
I don't even know how I ended up watching this 0_o
@ElusiveCube Collaboration is inspired by differences! I like that you have the courage to criticize Synergetics as you see it. The criticism forces us to improve our communications and devise experiments to test and verify our ideas. It is taking time (please be patient with us), but it is a welcome challenge. Sorry that I don't have all the answers for you.
On a technical note, I really cannot see how fractions specify or imply the frequency (F) of the geometry. Why is it 2-F?
@Israe5l I suspect the graphics in the video do use cartesian math. Even mathematics uses many coordinate systems (barycentric, homogeneous, spherical, cylindrical, polar, etc). I think more coordinate systems should be introduced earlier in schooling.
Joe Clinton will be speaking and attending the November symposium (see our web site), you can attend and ask him to elaborate on the parts you found interesting.
@SynergeticsCollab Synergetics is more catrtesian squares and cubes. 8/9 or 9/8 eight is a cube number 9 is a square number. Zubek's system 6/8, six is a triangular number, 8 is a cube number . I'm more triangular than Fuller, but the general consensus somehow don't see this.
It does not discards Cartesian since CCP is FCC, most latices are cubic frames, even the HCP, BCC, as well the IVM can be packed with cubes,
It is Duncan Stuart not Stewart.
Duncan Stuart, not stewart
@SynergeticsCollab True, if you are a reductionist everything seems to end up cartesian 3D. But what about the actual physical construction? Can we have relativity make it more complex? D=sqrt(x^2+y^2+z^2+(i*t)^2) Time will complicate things.
@SynergeticsCollab Who specifically from the synergetics collab. is communicating with me, I would like to see a name. Who is responding to my letters, who is doing this correspondence. I'll hope I don't see a slogan "All for one and one for all" Need a NAME.
Just recently I have exchanged few words with CJ, he informs me that apparently there is many interpretations of syner. If that is true how there can be a collaboration "Im lost" 3/24 =.125, 9/72 =.125 these formulas clearly saying that you guys dealing with 2-F structures labeled 1-F in syner. 8/9 means you guys have 8 small cubes each should consist of 9 modules. We know that this nonsense have lasted for decades, are these numbers above also have different meaning?? I doubth that.
Hey CJ so did you finally figured out what is 8/9 or 9/8 in conversion means? do you now know what this mean or you guys still only now try to croak the elementary aspects of formulas.
If you guys collaborating commonly on a idea can any one commonly figure this out or it will remain fuzzy for another decades to come. Kirby now understands, why you guys are not collaborating why this crucial part is not croaked before you go further in to a fog. Unity = 1 do you guys got that. Kirby knows ask
@SynergeticsCollab You do not need to devise experiments I have done that for you decade plus ago. Kirby is telling me that he is not to correct synergetics or that he does not know if Bucky is correct or wrong, he is just **teaching it**! How you teach something you are not sure about ?, who you teaching this to? and what group of people are going on this with you?. How you profess something you do not know about. A good hint is ,if in decades this did not toke off is is probably wrong.
@SynergeticsCollab Collaboration NEVER INSPIRES differences, collective thought is like PULLING IN THE SAME DIRRECTION. I'm from the easter block I do know what collective means, and how it operates. Science went to shits the same day it turn socialist. It was mostly individuals going against the grain again the established ideas it was individuals that achieved greatness way more often than some collective indoctrination, least that is what collectives means to me.
@SynergeticsCollab The reason I share the video comments so someone else may comment, to decipher synergetics. Many of the ideas should be solved long long time ago, you guys lost the momentum decade s ago. I lost my patience have to go on, have no time to snail pace any more, life is short and I have tons of work, but I help to, comment, or suggest as we go on. I think you should talk to other folks than just Kirby he will ignore facts as that is his way of doing geometry of thinking.
I wish to comment on Koski's youtube but he has 0 views, zero, subscribers, zero comments,
the same way -S- is zero , in the realm of academia so hard to fight a nonexistent icon.
@SynergeticsCollab You say you do not havehave ALL the answers?? I have not seen one single answer. You can not see how fractions?? well that is because you don't know what they mean. 8/9 is part of your formulas if you don't know what it means well do not teach it. Look my youtubes it is there. 3/24 means you have 3 A modules per 1/8 tet. if that is true your tet. is 2-F, 9/72 means you have 9 modules per small cube. If you can not interpret your own scheme just drop it !!
6 DECADE OF NONSESE
@Israe5l Well most of these guys swinging titles and colleges they attended but ask any simple question and they will dodge it. Just try to communicate a idea and you will run in to Borgs they all have the same answer, "we just like Bucky "," and we like to explore", "Bucky inspires us" but you will not get any true answer
from a single guy, because they thinking is already predetermined a PRODUCT OF COLLECTIVE THINKING one of the worst way to approach science.
Kermit the frog here