Porsche 959 and Ferrari 288 GTO were group B supercars. Porsche 911 GT1, Ferrari F40, Jaguar XJ220 and McLaren F1 were GT1 cars. Which almost were raod legal group C cars. Far more powerful and extreme than the group B supercars. And of cource a lot faster.
@@richardhammer187 I very much doubt that. I know enough to make a living getting flown to locations around the world to diagnose and fix cars that span a very large age period. He makes his money through driving and talking. I do know that, unlike him, I've never blown up an XJ220 when driving and yes, I have had them near flat out.
Yeah the minute tiff took the wheel the speed went right up and the passenger grump set in. There was a lot of passive aggression going on all through about Monaco and the car. I get the feeling these two do not like each other one bit!
@@yeknommonkeyfor me, I think they're both storytellers (talkers), and that's not a great combo in a car, as they both wanted to talk at length, and ended up talking over each other/clashing.
One of the prettiest Supercars ever. Saw the original V12 6.0 prototype as a small child (crawling between peoples legs at Birmingham NEC Motorshow). Then many years later I sat in a show car at the local Jaguar dealer, finally seeing the race car win its class at Le Mans in ‘93. If I won the lottery this would definitely be on my list! 😅😊
agreed that its the best looking supercar ever. Some complain that this should have been V12 and AWD but if it had it would have been 200kg heavier and had 100bhp less! Plus look at the Ferrari F40, that doesn`t sound particularly nice and is way slower than the XJ220.
The XJ220 is the reason I joined the motor trade. At university in the early 90s I walked into a newspaper shop and saw a copy of Auto Express with this beautiful car on its front cover. I was smitten! ❤
I'm amazed to learn there were only 275 of them produced. I thought that number was alot higher than that. Definitely an iconic car and absolutely a collectible. That said, I think even collectibles need to be driven. Enjoyed the racing stories and banter between you two as well. Wheelspin in 5th up the hill, while rowing gears and steering with one hand over the crest, just a different (and better) era.
The annoying thing is they were really cheap for a second hand Supercar for a while (around £100k for a good one) now the values have more than tripled. I should’ve sold that kidney sooner. 😂
Agreed, so many classic/supercars are stuck in air conditioned garages just for a wealthy person to look at or even just to have in their collection. They are NEVER driven and that is so sad. To my eyes the XJ220 is the best looking supercar ever made!
@@DaleSteel I think the main reason why the car suffered was because I'm afraid people got snobby. lol. When they put their deposits down they all thought they were getting the 6.0 V12 and of course the spec of the car changed before production. It's a bit like Lamborghini launching a car with a V6 Turbo. Doesn't matter how good the car is there will be a certain customer base who will want a V10 or V12. The other issue was Jaguar promised the car would reach 220mph and it didn't (quite). That also upset people who made deposits. Then there was a financial crisis and a car called the XJR-15 which stole the limelight slightly. So it was all a bit stacked up against the XJ220, however it's great it's being appreciated more now because in a way it was ahead of it's time. Apart from the size it was a car you could drive around without the clutch burning out or the engine melting. lol. It's a shame because Jaguar are now very nervous about ever entering the supercar arena again. The Jaguar C-X75 was stunning (and I think 12 prototypes were built) but the owners were too nervous about going any further with it.
In an early Top Gear test, Tiff reviewed the 220 and it had a clip with Martin Brundle driving and the cat convertors removed ( legal in England at the time ) and it hit 217mph at Nardo which is the equivalent to 223mph on a straight flat road.
If I remember correctly (doubtful...) on that top gear test they said that if it was only a little bit wider, it would need a police escort. When top gear was about cars.
Three iconic and amazing cars and very different in their approach. I suppose because of modern regulations you don't quite see that now. The brutal F40 would probably fail most emission and safety regulations nowadays. lol.
Back in approx 1996 or something I had cause to attend a local garage with my work in Newcastle Upon Tyne. In the rear they had a number of cars,including 3 x RS200 Ford Group B rally cars,a Murcialargo and several others plus an XJ220. Never seen such a beautiful car in the flesh before or since. Absolutely STUNNING.
Drove back in the days an hour to see it displayed at a dealer. Some years ago I saw one it often just parked on the side of the road entering Geneva. Awesome car, remains a gorgeous appearance.
In 1975, I remember driving my Dad’s Aston Martin FUG 990D around the circuit the night before the GP. Niki Lauda won it in the Ferrari 312T in the wet. I saw an XJ 220 in St George’s Hill Estate, Weybridge circa 1992/3. Beautiful car.
Great production in the mountains seeing this wonderful rare car from overhead and that view, actually choked me up. I'm from the generation where this car was a pin up. It was the Supercar we rushed out to get the game on the playstation just so we could see the car. I saw one at the motor show from a distance and I ran over to take a photo. They were actually ahead of the time with this V6 People mount about it, but look at the V6 is now that companies are using and I own a V6. I'm Mitsubishi and it's a fantastic engine. How many legends can you get in a video? A guy that's raced with Senna Tiff and this fantastic car really enjoyed it. Thank you 👏👏👏
Panel gap on the bonnet - front bumper shows its age ... different standards I guess. Very nice, also to see Thierry again. As a Belgian car crazy kid of the 80s, I cheered for him every race 🇧🇪
I saw one once around 1993, pulled out of a lane in Hertfordshire, looked sort of normal until you see it side on, so long and the back, I didn't sound like a supercar, but it seemed pretty quick as it stopped at a junction and turned right. Was something ill never forget.
There used to be a Jaguar museum in Coventry years ago (maybe gone now don’t know) and there was a 220 there which you were allowed to sit in. Really good design. My favourite sports car.
Boutsen was the first driver i ever Saw live. It was at Estoril 1984 on saturday's qualy. He was coming flat out in the arrows at the end of the straight lowered a gear and flat at the right hander first corner. I remember thinking: Jesús they are much faster than i ever imagined.
When I was growing up all my friends had Ferraris and Lambos on their walls, but this is the car I had on my wall. I've loved it since the day it came out, absolutely stunning!
This design is so eye soothing, elegant and relaxed but still dynamic compared to current solely aggressive styling of supercars....and Monaco is gorgeous place....
You drove that in Monaco - that takes some brave pills!. I thought they didn't have power steering! I had a ride in one at Knockhill many moons ago - it was so long geared it never got out of first.
That so-called racing driver was just putting around and then Tiff gets in and actually puts his foot down. I luv Tiff, he is such a good presenter and one helluva driver ! Whoever buys it should get a plate that reads XJ217.
Yes. I dislike it when people do that with nice cars, let alone rare ones such as this. Hopefully he didn't have the hotel room key or loose change in his back pocket.
Great video. I love Monaco. On a Sunday in July 2020 I managed a personal lap record of 4 minutes 30 seconds in a rental Opel diesel. No tourists crossing the roads (due to covid), no traffic (due to the weekend) and only one red light to contend with. I doubt I'll ever beat that.
The poster on every kids wall in the late 80s early 90s was a black or red Lamborghini Countach. But not this (once) young British scamp, I spent an entire weeks pocket money on a poster from Athena of a Silver Jaguar XJ220. It was so worth it. Staring at it for hours, I’m sure it contributed to my work ethic later in life as I vowed I would have one there and then. Of course I drive an Audi now, I never did get the XJ220 surprisingly. But it was the centre piece of my shrine to the best of (once) British automotive engineering.
Some seriously impressive from Jaguar and TWR to produce those numbers from a V6 when everything else had a V8 or a V12! Great video, Tiff & Thierry were fantastic👏
I had the promotion model of this car on an oval plaque with a plexiglass bubble over it , I’ve never seen one , this is the first time I’ve seen one driven ! Too bad the production failed , the V-12 would have been quite the car
That hill up to Casino square is steeper than I thought, when I visited Monaco back in 2016. The 220 is an epic car too and due to it's smooth looks, seems modern, even today in an era where everything is downsized and turbocharged.
Wonderful video. Amazing photography and hillside shots of Monte-Carlo. Great to hear the banter between Tiff and Thierry. I was at the launch of the car at the NEC in period and always thought that Jaguar deserved so much more respect for producing and racing this beautiful car. If a 959 is a six cylinder turbo then why not a cutting edge Jag 220.
So good to see Boutsen after so many years. I assume once drivers retire, they live a quiet secluded life. A classic car showroom in Monaco is pretty decent. I can't help but wonder what Boutsen would have done in the Williams in '91 & '92.
Boutsen's made most of his money from private jets. As for the 91 & 82 Williams -Nothing. Boutsen and Patrese had taken Williams down a dead end with a super stiffly sprung car, a World away from the FW11 Piquet developed before. When Mansell got his hands on Boutsen's car he was over a second quicker as soon as Williams found some soft springs to put in it ..
@@davidgavin7280 Funny you say that as I read Prost got into Boutsens Ligier in '91 or '92 test session and was over a second faster in a car Boutsen was driving all year ling in 1991.
The 959, the F40, and the XJ220... Wonderful cars that stole my young heart.
Porsche 959 and Ferrari 288 GTO were group B supercars. Porsche 911 GT1, Ferrari F40, Jaguar XJ220 and McLaren F1 were GT1 cars. Which almost were raod legal group C cars. Far more powerful and extreme than the group B supercars. And of cource a lot faster.
The XJ220 is so pretty and dramatic. Timeless car!
Tiff is such a legend. Car's not bad either!
Not really, he blew a transmission on one because of poor technique.
He's certainly mad!
He's great with the public when he's at Thruxton. You can get to experience his amazing car control for yourself. I can recommend it.
@@byteme9718 he's forgotten more about cars and driving than you'll ever know.
@@richardhammer187 I very much doubt that. I know enough to make a living getting flown to locations around the world to diagnose and fix cars that span a very large age period. He makes his money through driving and talking. I do know that, unlike him, I've never blown up an XJ220 when driving and yes, I have had them near flat out.
Thierry looked very nervous in the passenger seat 😂
All enthusiasts are terrible passengers, right? 🤣I am. First thing Tiff did was interfere with the AC with 2 seconds of startup!
Yeah the minute tiff took the wheel the speed went right up and the passenger grump set in. There was a lot of passive aggression going on all through about Monaco and the car. I get the feeling these two do not like each other one bit!
@@yeknommonkeyfor me, I think they're both storytellers (talkers), and that's not a great combo in a car, as they both wanted to talk at length, and ended up talking over each other/clashing.
@@richardhammer187 agreed, many stories to tell for a short lap of Monaco between the car and both of their experiences there.
He is the one that has to sell that car😂
One of the prettiest Supercars ever. Saw the original V12 6.0 prototype as a small child (crawling between peoples legs at Birmingham NEC Motorshow). Then many years later I sat in a show car at the local Jaguar dealer, finally seeing the race car win its class at Le Mans in ‘93. If I won the lottery this would definitely be on my list! 😅😊
agreed that its the best looking supercar ever. Some complain that this should have been V12 and AWD but if it had it would have been 200kg heavier and had 100bhp less! Plus look at the Ferrari F40, that doesn`t sound particularly nice and is way slower than the XJ220.
I think it would also have been just over a foot longer!
@@steadyrockscotland Yes I think you are about right, the prototype was huge. Looked amazing though :)
@@davekennedy6315 I still much prefer the F40 myself, best looking car ever for me.
Men should not say “Pretty”
Stone me - Thierry! One of the really good professionals from the old days.
XJ220 is a piece of art. Imagine one of these alongside an XJ13 in the garage ❤
Tiff, the ultimate cool dad ! Others talk shit, with a cobwebbed ego, ready to reavel it at will, whereas, Tiff is so much more real ! 👏
Grandad these days ;)
It's all about continuity... Tiff Needell is not only a racing legend, he is also 100% entertaining...
Fith gear f'd up.hard ehen they dropped him 😮😢
And top gear
I never understood it. I find him very charismatic and entertaining. He should have his own show.
TG Trio and Tiff are the only reason left we ever watched car reviews
Man they really have aged well, haven't they?... The old Jag still looks good too. 😉
Turning a lot of heads!
The XJ220 is the reason I joined the motor trade. At university in the early 90s I walked into a newspaper shop and saw a copy of Auto Express with this beautiful car on its front cover. I was smitten! ❤
man, I love Tiff. This was super enjoyable.
I had the prototype in our TWR workshop in Kidlington. It was huge; but very beautiful. Still possibly the best looking supercar!
An XJ220 has always been the top of my. When I win the Lottery List. 🙂
I'm amazed to learn there were only 275 of them produced. I thought that number was alot higher than that.
Definitely an iconic car and absolutely a collectible. That said, I think even collectibles need to be driven.
Enjoyed the racing stories and banter between you two as well.
Wheelspin in 5th up the hill, while rowing gears and steering with one hand over the crest, just a different (and better) era.
The annoying thing is they were really cheap for a second hand Supercar for a while (around £100k for a good one) now the values have more than tripled. I should’ve sold that kidney sooner. 😂
Agreed, so many classic/supercars are stuck in air conditioned garages just for a wealthy person to look at or even just to have in their collection. They are NEVER driven and that is so sad. To my eyes the XJ220 is the best looking supercar ever made!
Nobody wanted to buy one with good reason
@@DaleSteel I think the main reason why the car suffered was because I'm afraid people got snobby. lol. When they put their deposits down they all thought they were getting the 6.0 V12 and of course the spec of the car changed before production. It's a bit like Lamborghini launching a car with a V6 Turbo. Doesn't matter how good the car is there will be a certain customer base who will want a V10 or V12. The other issue was Jaguar promised the car would reach 220mph and it didn't (quite). That also upset people who made deposits. Then there was a financial crisis and a car called the XJR-15 which stole the limelight slightly. So it was all a bit stacked up against the XJ220, however it's great it's being appreciated more now because in a way it was ahead of it's time. Apart from the size it was a car you could drive around without the clutch burning out or the engine melting. lol. It's a shame because Jaguar are now very nervous about ever entering the supercar arena again. The Jaguar C-X75 was stunning (and I think 12 prototypes were built) but the owners were too nervous about going any further with it.
@@andrewharper4296 yup. Big difference between a v12 and a v6 from a metro
XJ220 always had the SPOT on my heart.
How have I only just discovered this channel!? Dropped the ball on this one UA-cam algorithm.
Such a beautiful car! Tiff you rock too 😊
In an early Top Gear test, Tiff reviewed the 220 and it had a clip with Martin Brundle driving and the cat convertors removed ( legal in England at the time ) and it hit 217mph at Nardo which is the equivalent to 223mph on a straight flat road.
If I remember correctly (doubtful...) on that top gear test they said that if it was only a little bit wider, it would need a police escort. When top gear was about cars.
I clearly remember that, had it on video!
To see and listen to Tiff is always the best car reiwier to watch!👌 3 Legends!
This car has aged very nicely. Maybe I’m biased as a child of the 80’s, because the F40 and 959 have also aged well.
The F40 is still the best looking car ever imo!
Three iconic and amazing cars and very different in their approach. I suppose because of modern regulations you don't quite see that now. The brutal F40 would probably fail most emission and safety regulations nowadays. lol.
Two guys who have been there done it and can still get into the t shirt.quality. new sub cheers!
I remember seeing one for the first time a few years ago, the sheer scale of the thing was mind-blowing! It's still a thing of beauty though.
Back in approx 1996 or something I had cause to attend a local garage with my work in Newcastle Upon Tyne. In the rear they had a number of cars,including 3 x RS200 Ford Group B rally cars,a Murcialargo and several others plus an XJ220. Never seen such a beautiful car in the flesh before or since. Absolutely STUNNING.
I remember seeing the XJ220 in the newspaper when it first came out! Elon John had got one! Oh I lusted over this car! Thanks for posting. Subscribed.
Such a beautiful car showcasing what Jaguar could do in the face of such stiff competition. Stunning and reliable! Classic….
English produced and reliable... that's "somewhat" of a contradiction... ;-)
Had a 1:16 model of this as a kid....was always in love with it.
I’ll watch any video with Tiff in it 👍🏻
Better looking than today's supercars.
What a car !!
Drove back in the days an hour to see it displayed at a dealer.
Some years ago I saw one it often just parked on the side of the road entering Geneva. Awesome car, remains a gorgeous appearance.
I LOVE this car! This has definitely been a dream car for me since high school.
In 1975, I remember driving my Dad’s Aston Martin FUG 990D around the circuit the night before the GP. Niki Lauda won it in the Ferrari 312T in the wet. I saw an XJ 220 in St George’s Hill Estate, Weybridge circa 1992/3. Beautiful car.
That was brilliant,
Loved it.
What a cool jag
Great production in the mountains seeing this wonderful rare car from overhead and that view, actually choked me up. I'm from the generation where this car was a pin up. It was the Supercar we rushed out to get the game on the playstation just so we could see the car. I saw one at the motor show from a distance and I ran over to take a photo. They were actually ahead of the time with this V6 People mount about it, but look at the V6 is now that companies are using and I own a V6. I'm Mitsubishi and it's a fantastic engine. How many legends can you get in a video? A guy that's raced with Senna Tiff and this fantastic car really enjoyed it. Thank you 👏👏👏
Panel gap on the bonnet - front bumper shows its age ... different standards I guess. Very nice, also to see Thierry again. As a Belgian car crazy kid of the 80s, I cheered for him every race 🇧🇪
Agreed, also wasn't a sidelight bulb out too.... Not great for a high end car sale...
I saw one once around 1993, pulled out of a lane in Hertfordshire, looked sort of normal until you see it side on, so long and the back, I didn't sound like a supercar, but it seemed pretty quick as it stopped at a junction and turned right. Was something ill never forget.
Always nice to see a XJ220
0:13 But look at the mismatch on the bonnet lining up with the lights God bless. Can’t beat a bit of 1980s British engineering!
I thought that - perhaps just needs a bit of adjustment?
You can adjust that from under the ”frunk”. Takes five seconds.
Better than Tesla
I love Tiff, I love the XJ220. So what's not to love about this vid? As a Dutchman, Thierry felt a bit 'one of us' back in the day.
What, like the Belgian boy that you've claimed as your own now?
@@davidgavin7280 Exactly! Or Monacan, if you'd like.
There used to be a Jaguar museum in Coventry years ago (maybe gone now don’t know) and there was a 220 there which you were allowed to sit in. Really good design. My favourite sports car.
Tiff is one of the best car presenter around! He a legend!
My hero, Tiff Needell❤
Boutsen was the first driver i ever Saw live. It was at Estoril 1984 on saturday's qualy. He was coming flat out in the arrows at the end of the straight lowered a gear and flat at the right hander first corner.
I remember thinking: Jesús they are much faster than i ever imagined.
This is a great format, great host, great car and really informative guest...that section on the Monaco track is fascinating!
When I was growing up all my friends had Ferraris and Lambos on their walls, but this is the car I had on my wall. I've loved it since the day it came out, absolutely stunning!
Same here. This was my poster car. That and the Lotus Carlton/Omega
I had Jet from gladiators on my walls
@@lulabelle82 mmmm Jet
@@lulabelle82 Fair.
Love this car, been lucky enough to see a couple of them on the road where I live, it's a massively wide car
You could just say "it's a massive car"!
Great video, well produced, great platform and all round winner, well done Carhuna and thanks for the cool content along the way! Hats off!
The Jag looks like a spaceship in person. Nothing comes close. The front bonnet needs an adjustment.
To Neindoch.
Well I DO like it!
This design is so eye soothing, elegant and relaxed but still dynamic compared to current solely aggressive styling of supercars....and Monaco is gorgeous place....
Great video, was great to listen too as well as for the car :)
IMO the XJ220 and also McLaren Mercedes SLR will soon (well, soon-ish) be $1m cars. Definetely undervalued
CLK GTR was Mercedes equivalent to the XJ220. Naturally aspirated V12. 6,9-7,3 liters. 610-670 HP.
It’s fabulous .. Monaco is beautiful, especially this car in it .. lovely !
Great video. Two starts and fab car. Nicely relaxed banter. Loved it.
A car like no other. Beautiful, stylish fast, and oh so classy. The sleekest super car on the planet.
Tiff is the real deal. great to see him alive and well and still on it. reviews by Tiff are the best.
"Imagine a V12 min this type of car, it would be very heavy" - McLaren F1 - "Hold my beer"
Design still looks as good today as when it first came out. Stunning car.
The XJ220 is still a head turner ... even on the streets of Monte Carlo
I have never loved a car more than the XJ220
My late Dad’s Aston is a DB6 and still around as most old Astons still are. 🥰
You drove that in Monaco - that takes some brave pills!.
I thought they didn't have power steering! I had a ride in one at Knockhill many moons ago - it was so long geared it never got out of first.
Rebuilt and drove 6 of these, scary fast
wow great to see Tiff. grew watching the man. legend!
One of my childhood dreamcars, and still !
Oh my God, the resemblance of Tiff and Thierry is remarkable!
That so-called racing driver was just putting around and then Tiff gets in and actually puts his foot down. I luv Tiff, he is such a good presenter and one helluva driver ! Whoever buys it should get a plate that reads XJ217.
Boutsen is the better F1 driver, Tiff probably the better presenter.
This sent me to a trip, I remember seeing Tiff with this exact car when I was younger haha!
I don't get why such a car enthusiast and professional as Tiff has to sit on the door of such a beauty!
Yes. I dislike it when people do that with nice cars, let alone rare ones such as this. Hopefully he didn't have the hotel room key or loose change in his back pocket.
Great video. I love Monaco. On a Sunday in July 2020 I managed a personal lap record of 4 minutes 30 seconds in a rental Opel diesel. No tourists crossing the roads (due to covid), no traffic (due to the weekend) and only one red light to contend with. I doubt I'll ever beat that.
The smooth, svelte looks have aged well and the silver suits it. The Jag looks good too.
I agree that the car still looks great in 2023. Lovely cinematography as well!
What incredible light on that particular day in Monaco.
watching Tiff after so many years brings back memories of fifth gear. Him, Vicky Butler & others were so fun to watch
The poster on every kids wall in the late 80s early 90s was a black or red Lamborghini Countach.
But not this (once) young British scamp, I spent an entire weeks pocket money on a poster from Athena of a Silver Jaguar XJ220. It was so worth it. Staring at it for hours, I’m sure it contributed to my work ethic later in life as I vowed I would have one there and then.
Of course I drive an Audi now, I never did get the XJ220 surprisingly. But it was the centre piece of my shrine to the best of (once) British automotive engineering.
It's the ultimate head turner that's for sure, even in Monaco...
Some seriously impressive from Jaguar and TWR to produce those numbers from a V6 when everything else had a V8 or a V12!
Great video, Tiff & Thierry were fantastic👏
It was supposed to have a v12
I had the promotion model of this car on an oval plaque with a plexiglass bubble over it , I’ve never seen one , this is the first time I’ve seen one driven ! Too bad the production failed , the V-12 would have been quite the car
That hill up to Casino square is steeper than I thought, when I visited Monaco back in 2016. The 220 is an epic car too and due to it's smooth looks, seems modern, even today in an era where everything is downsized and turbocharged.
@7:06 Tiff dropping the goat of racing driver excuses.
I've seen one of these on the road in Norfolk, UK and it looked sublime!
I need a subscription for Tiff to describe EVERYTHING about cars. I'm sorry but he is the voice for cars.
Can we have these two weekly talking about ol skool supercars?
Loved this car since i was a little kid in the 90s
Very very nice!
one of my childhood all time fav cars!
Great supercar for all those reasons explained but foremost for unreasonable reasons which is from 90’s souvenir and our hearts. 😊
Wonderful video.
Amazing photography and hillside shots of Monte-Carlo.
Great to hear the banter between Tiff and Thierry.
I was at the launch of the car at the NEC in period and always thought that Jaguar deserved so much more respect for producing and racing this beautiful car. If a 959 is a six cylinder turbo then why not a cutting edge Jag 220.
Tiff is a class act. How Thierry could keep talking when Tiff was driving at the local speed limit...
I can't believe the auction isn't running up on this.
Any video with Timothy is a great video! Thanks.
So good to see Boutsen after so many years. I assume once drivers retire, they live a quiet secluded life. A classic car showroom in Monaco is pretty decent. I can't help but wonder what Boutsen would have done in the Williams in '91 & '92.
Boutsen's made most of his money from private jets.
As for the 91 & 82 Williams -Nothing. Boutsen and Patrese had taken Williams down a dead end with a super stiffly sprung car, a World away from the FW11 Piquet developed before.
When Mansell got his hands on Boutsen's car he was over a second quicker as soon as Williams found some soft springs to put in it ..
@@davidgavin7280 Funny you say that as I read Prost got into Boutsens Ligier in '91 or '92 test session and was over a second faster in a car Boutsen was driving all year ling in 1991.
Tiff Needell was always the best car reviewer
This is my favorite Jaguar
When I thought the car couldn't look anymore beautiful, they activated the pop down headlights.
I see tiff, i click.
Holy shit this is like a true TV show, including the presenter. How does this have only less than 4k subscribers?
Such a beautiful car, it really needs to be reimagined in carbon fibre tubbed version for a modern take on this timeless shape.
Re-do it at 3am :) drive the streets of MC.... TIff what a treat, Thank You !