Youre not alone Scott. That episode was the most disappointing one to me as well. Enterprise deserved soo much more. Paramount screwed you over and many fans betrayed you guys. I for one was 100% in support of the show.
CBS, not paramount. Although they always techically where owned by the same conglomerate, they functioned as independent companies with paramount having to pay licensing fees. I believe with the remearger between CBS and Viacom in 2019 the two are effectively the same company with separate business cost centers.
@@Sagittarius-81 it’s been tried before but to no avail……so far. I do know there was one circulating at one point. Write to the ceo of cbs studios, I did recently
Enterprise was a brilliant show, especially seasons 3 and 4. Should not have been cancelled when it was, and they most certainly shouldn't have killed Trip. Something like that makes rewatching it in the future pretty tough. Why not have a final mission that brings Trip and T'Pol together again after being split up for a few years? But hey, we saw what happened with Game of Thrones when a conclusion was rushed. I think realistically the penultimate episode should have been the last one. I enjoyed seeing Troi and Riker, and it brought out some great moments from the NX01 crew, but leaving it after defeating Terra Prime would have been a fitting end.
I’m almost halfway through and should I watch the last episode or end with terra prime? I’ve heard that in reality that Trip didn’t actually die according to some spinoff novel I heard about.
@@Andy1341000 You can watch the last episode, but just view it as a bonus feature lol. They killed trip just to have something dramatic happen in the last episode. The book perfectly erases the last episode, and even openly mocks it with all the criticism people directed at it. Within 24 hours the fans had torn the last episode to pieces online. Most of the cast was very critical or even upset with it, and eventually the writers apologized. They tried to cram a season into the last episode and make the fans happy, but it just failed.
@@usul573 Yeah, I see "Terra Prime" as the last episode and then "These Are The Voyages..." as a hastily done.. extra bonus "fan special" episode. I think Enterprise should have gone at least on to a 5th season.. or better yet 6th and 7th. Sure they could have skipped the theme song having lyrics, and also it should have had the Star Trek title in it from the beginning (and not have been called just Enterprise), but still those are just minor nitpicks.
was so disrespectful to Bakula and the team to pull the Next Gen stunt, the producers knew that was it for a generation on Trek on TV and tried to sign off the next gen era instead of singing off enterprise.
Gary Paterson The final episode was abysmal. An obese Riker playing Chef. Deanna with a patronizing comment to a frozen Archer..."He was cute." They thought tossing in Shran would appease the fans. It fucking sucked. The baby Elizabeth episode should have been the finale.
Final episode was rushed and a disappointment, especially when troy and riker walked out when Archer was just about to give the speech.. Including the speech would be a bit better.
He makes a good point about them trying to cram the main points of about three seasons of main ideas into a single episode and by telling it through the point of view of someone “cliff noting “ it on the holodeck was a way to do that. It’s sort of like having a beloved novelist in the middle of a engaging series of books finding out he was going to to die before he could complete it, so he shares with his fans the guideline he had written up for the last few books in the series. It would have been nice if seasons 4-7 of Enterprises had come out in a series of short novels or something
I really wish that Enterprise would not have been cancelled. I liked the series more than some of the other Star Trek series. I still do. Thank you cast of Enterprise for giving us 4 years. I miss you!
Watching Enterprise 10 years later made me appreciate it much much more . And now doing the same with Voyager ,but Enterprise is special because it comes across as they are always behind and learning on the run . Not as stiff as Voyager comes across . Each has its silver lining, Enterprise really could have had 3 more seasons , or at least do 3 movies
Enterprise as aged very well, and I suspect its to do with the tone. TNG was kind of "the middle class in space", where as Enterprise was "the working class in space". The uniforms look like Naval uniforms, the interiors are functional , looking like a naval ship or even a NASA spacecraft (lots of *stuff* attached tto walls, visible cables on the monitrs ettc), rather than aestheic and everyone is kind of at work rather than lounging around listening to violin concertos and stuff. And that working class feeling of grinding your 9-5 , even if it happens to be your favorite thing, is something I think most people can relate to. Thats not to say Enterprise was the first for that, DS9 was very working class as well, right down to people spending their time a Quarks bar and lamenting their hard days at work, hell it even featured labor struggles like the bar staff going on strike over wages. And I kinda think DS9 has aged excellently too (Theres a reason i tends to be the favorite of so many hard-core trekkies)
@@shayneoneill1506 meh ds9 was too TNG like. It tried to hard to be gritty but never felt authentic. Voyager was TNG light and uptight with probably the least talented cast of the 5 series including ENT. You could tell that Berman and Braga were out of ideas too at the end of Voyagers run.
Ten years later and I'm still bitter about Enterprise getting cancelled!! I always get stick for this but Enterprise was my fave of the whole Star Trek series - personally I liked the whole masculine tone of it as opposed to the TNG campiness. But Goddamn everybody in the writing staff and at CBS deserves to be shot at close range for that finale episode they turned out - at least give them one more season to tie-up the loose ends. Such a travesty.
Yeah! Totally agreed! I haven't seen The Next Generation since I was a kid and having just finished watching Enterprise again, I'm still in a Star Trek mood. So I watched some clips of the first series of The Next Generation on UA-cam and I can't believe how Politically Correct it was! The Political Correctness then is no where near as bad as it is now, but you can see it must have started in that era! The first episode had men wearing dresses with skirts FFS!
Mine too - they had to do the most with the least - no Federation, no replicators, no holodecks, very few allies, much, less technology, no superhuman characters (like Data), and 10 days post 9-11 series premiere, plus a less than stellar choice for the opening music, this show overcame a lot of crap thrown at it and it is now my favorite of all.
Ditto , you are so right about the masculine energy of the show. It's powerful, and you feel it strongly on rare occasions when it breaks through all of today's pc. I loved all of Enterprise, even the finale.✍️😷
I feel the same way about Enterprise being canceled, but it was even worse for me when Star Trek, Original Series was cancelled. What's wrong with TV network executives? They are idiots.
He was holding back for sure. I think a good chunk of the Fandom knows how horribly everything was handled with ENT. It's too bad really. This cast was really good.
I enjoyed Enterprise so much. I feel that it brought back the spirit of star trek after DS9. DS9 was great, but it wasn't about exploration and discovery as much as Enterprise was.
The funny thing is that they eventually retconned the episode. They released a book that completely changes the thing that a lot of people (myself included) hated the most about the episode. For anyone that’s interested, the book is called The Good That Men Do. The synopsis of the book completely spoils what I’m referring to, which is kind of a bummer because that would have been a fantastic reveal in the book, but whatever. At least what happened in the series finale of Enterprise isn’t the full story anymore, like it was when it first aired.
Scott was one of thr best to do the show i really enjoyed the cast chemistry i wish they skiped ahead in time with the show when they could afford to do it. Any network that didnt pick this show up really missed a wonderful opportunity.... Hard to see such an amazing cast lose such a good show
When Enterprise came out, I watched it because it's Trek and we all watch. Before I knew it, I was hooked. The premise, the cast, even the theme song were all fantastic. We all agree all good things come to an end, just wish it was a better send-off.
I don't care what anybody says Enterprise was the best of the shows I still am angry it got axed. I was so into finding out how the Federation was born that would have been a good story line. It was cool to see how the technology like transporters where introduced and where phasers and photon torpedoes came from e.t.c. I thought the drama and the acting was much better in Enterprise as well my favorite cast set up. :)
They should not have used PHASE pistols on Star Trek: Enterprise because LATER Capt Pike & his crew of the more advanced Enterprise (before Kirk) were still using LASERS!!! Did anyone notice this? trekpropzone.com/images/cagelaser%20001.jpg
I thought a movie would be great. Bring back Tripp. It was so stupid to kill him off. Totally ruined the ending. Accomplished nothing. Maybe Dr Flox could have a creature in the new episode that brings Tripp back to life. I've been a life long Trekkie. This was the best
Phlox and Trip*. and I agree that his death was a dumb idea. Really sad scene, but it would have been more impactful to see the crew have to continue without him.
Brian Brachel+ Read the books, all nine of them. They did bring Tripp back. He and T'pol get back together. He is sent on a secret mission to Romulan space. That's why they faked his death.
Early Federation and making peace between Vulcans and Adorians really spoke to the core of what Trek was. NuTrek is garbage in comparison. Archer was just as good as Picard or Sisko.
I am sure it would be great if there are more episodes. Can't get rid of it. Jonathan archer and his crew together are a beautiful combination, the've created a piece of magnificent work. They make me surprise, laugh and cry each time I see it.
I can't remember who it was, but somebody on Enterprise said they thought the two-part episode with Peter Weller where they create the ill-fated child of T'Pol and Trip was the real last episode if not a finale per se. I take some consolation in that. The little speech that Phlox gives about being family at the end had the kind of emotional truth and human dignity the series deserved. By far my favourite Star Trek.
That is correct. These are the voyages was Berman and Braga coming back in and interfering again as they had done throughout seasons 1 & 2 (part of the reason the show got canceled in the first place). Midway through season 3 manny Coto had taken over writing and production hence why the show’s quality improved dramatically. The last episode was Bermans last hurrah (he retired in 2005) and they produced that last horrible episode that the entire cast hated except Trinneer. Manny Coto begged paramount and cbs to renew them for a season 5 but they refused unfortunately. Once it was clear season 4 was going to be the last Coto rewrote Terra prime to have trio and t’pols baby die but the last scene of them sitting in t’pols quarters grieving was intended to be the end with a positive moment. Berman and Braga butchered the last episode and only succeeded in stroking their own egos and alienating fans.
The true series finale to Enterprise is Terra Prime. These Are The Voyages actually takes place during The Pegasus in TNG, right after Riker sees Dr. Crusher.
I have so much respect for Scott Bakula!!!! I LOVE ENTERPRISE, he did such a good Job, it would have been soooo fucking interesting to see how the Federation formed. Why don't they cancel fucking Discovery?! Or Picard? Such crap!!! Enterprise was gold compared to that. Scott, i hope you're doing good, hopefully there will be Enterprise-Federation or something in which you act as Admiral Archer.
yes, how far have they and we fallen? Cancelling a good series early and for some reason the worst possible versions of Trek can not be canceled to save the real, ST culture. Before, Trek was enlightened. Now Trek is regressive, woke garbage and propaganda.
Start a Kickstarter campaign to raise money to bring Enterprise back to television or maybe even a film. It worked for Veronica Mars, which was/is kind of a preppy chick show for girls. The Enterprise bridge and most of the set is owned/housed in a millionaire's garage in Germany. Scott Bakula met the guy and can be in touch with him.
The thing is, it's been 13 years since it last aired, the cast have moved on, the sets have to be recreated, and with the CBS/Viacom split, making a new ST show isn't that easy due to different companies owning different parts of ST (idiots for splitting it up like that). You're best starting afresh with a new series, like they have done with ST:DIS - I've watched all the episodes so far, and definitely has a lot potential. I wouldn't have called Star Trek in the title though, I would have said it was based upon Star Trek, but it's a completely different series.
It wouldn't work because since 2007, CBS tied the franchise down with a contract to Bad Robot and Secret Hideout, where everything's gotta be legally distinct from the old canon.
I wasn’t too keen on the whole Xindi story arc, but I thought that it generally got better over time. Would have been nice to see the planned Federation birth story get completed properly.
Enterprise and Voyager are my favourites. Phlox, Trip and 'the Doctor'/EMH are my favourite characters! The final episode was a huge let down. I cried over Sim, then Elizabeth and then Trip. Was very emotional.
The ending of Enterprise was so stupid! I hated that they were just holograms and that they killed Trip. I have watched the series several times but I never watch the last episode.
I wasn't that big of a fan. I like archer and trip. Couldn't stand Tpal. Didn't like that they did to vulcans... Changed what they were. It started out good imo got lost along the way. Still better than DS9.
The only sci-fi show I ever thought had a great send off was Stargate SG-1. Every other one I felt was heartbreaking and very minimal closure You can like almost taste how better he is about this poor guy, I grew up watching quantum leap so I've always been a Scott fan. I thought enterprise was an amazing show It had such great potential.
SG1 was guaranteed for 2 seasons, which is what they pitched for. The producers said it needed 2 seasons to flesh out the story and set everything up for later seasons. It worked.
Pretty DIPLOMATIC on the part of Scott Bakula and dare I say a bit revisionist based on what the cast leaked afterword. In fact it was so badly received by audiences that Berman and Braga (the show's original producer and writer) were called into a public press conference to explain what exactly happened. In fact I have no idea what he (Bakula) is talking about "going along with it". It was leaked during the re-filming of the final scenes of that episode that Bakula actually went off on Braga and Berman backstage after seeing Jolene (T'Pol) break down in tears at how badly the episode was turning out and how Paramount Studios was handling the cancellation. It's also worth mentioning that Braga and Berman rewrote / refilmed the ending of "These are the Voyages" because originally it was filmed early in season 4 as a mirror episode but was so bad that the studio rejected it and relegated it to the trash heap. Manny Coto (who had taken over writing and production midway through season 3 and resurrected the show's ratings), vehemently objected to the episode arguing that "Terra Prime" was supposed to be the last episode, but noooo Berman and Braga had to get the last laugh. In fact "These are the Voyages" was Berman's last hurrah (he retired in 2005) and was really a throwback to his TNG glory days. Everything about the story made no sense based on the developments of seasons 3 and 4. It was like B&B were trying to trash everything Coto did to turn the series around (which he did).
Amazing it's been nearly 16 years since the end of Enterprise. To put into perspective, that is nearly as long as when TOS ended and TNG started (18 years).
Enterprise was a great show been watching on netflix hope there's more Star Trek coming to TV... Enterprise was underrated ... Archers the George Washington of space
As the show progresses on, they do have a say, but it's limited. If they are going to stamp their feet, and say "not doing it, you can't make me do it, so... there...", then the actors better have a good reason for it. If you're going to die on a hill, is it worth it?
Let's not forget that many of the actors took turns writing the episodes, and even directing them. So in many ways, they were all quite involved on sometimes a deep level.
The question was how he felt about it, not what control he had in making it. I get why he's being diplomatic and I love the actor and the show, but that wasn't a good answer.
At the end, Archer had his new Job, the others went on to teach and to their new ships. But T"Pol just stood there all alone with tears in her eyes thinking, What am I supposed to do now? My Captain's moved on, the crew has split up and Trip's dead..... It was like all of us took a bullet to the heart too.
It would be great if they made an Enterprise movie. While TOS & TNG are the only ones to have had full length movies, I've always wanted to see DS9, VOY and ENT all have movies. That said, ENT really, really deserves a movie due to the way it ended with a boatload of loose ends. We never see the details of the formation of the Federation (Archer was supposed to be the 1st President), conflicts & wars with the Romulans & Klingons, new technology introduced & perfected, subtle uniform changes, later histories on characters like T'Pol, Hoshi, Reed, Phlox, and Mayweather. And above all else--(drumroll) a clear, canonical explanation (with no ambiguity) as to who Future Guy really was!
@@JohnS-ol8dn Notice the name of the show. Star Trek Picard, not TNG Season 8. You have some of the TNG characters and other ST characters guest star in it. The storyline is a bit silly, so far. Picard should be about Picard, we should learn more about him, not him gallivanting around the galaxy.
@@Locutus Well no, they can bring back Star Trek: Enterprise. CGI and make-up can make the actors look younger again or, if they cannot do a live action series again, an animation series is the next best option.
fundó los cimientos dentro del universo de Star trek, de verdad fue un excelente actor, y su actuación iba muy acorde, fue genial ver como sus acciones perdurarían a través del tiempo
Only watch my enterprise now in 2018 and it’s an amazing show. Not looking forward to the last episode as from what everyone says it’s terrible. Why did they cancel such a great show.
I would of enjoyed a few more seasons myself, but with what we got I enjoyed every minute of it. I felt it was the most genuine because they were not over powered.
You can tell he wasn't happy with the finale, but he took the highroad. I will say, this wasn't the worst series ending of all time, but it wasn't the best either.... For me, this ending was simply Riker, Troi and TNG boldly going where they weren't invited and didn't truly belong! Enterprise should have been given the respect of going out on its own and not on the shoulders of another TV show! The show-runners should have had more confidence in the show's abilities and allowed Enterprise to go out on its own, rather than be carried out by TNG. And if having the crew of the NX-01 meet the crew of Enterprise D in some "time travel" episode was something the show-runners wanted to do at some point, they should have scrapped it and walked away from it. However, if this show had to be paired with another show, then it should have been paired with TOS and not TNG because that would have made a lot more sense. My ending would have closed its final moments with T'Pol at the ceremony for the Enterprise NC-1701's maiden voyage and T'Pol, being very old at this point, and wishing Captain Christopher Pike (not Kirk) long life and prosperity. However, as she was leaving, I would then have her see Spock in her periphery and approach him as well to wish him good luck. Of course, we'd only see Spock's back, but they could have created dialogue by using voice recordings from old shows to create a memorable conversation. T'Pol could have spoken to Spock with a human-like quality, which Spock would find strange, but "fascinating". This would be a great moment between T'Pol and Spock because we all know where Spock and human feelings end up many years later! And, an ending like this would certainly be like Starfleet's original Vulcan science officer passing the torch to the new Vulcan science officer - and that's how you end a TV series! Again, there are so many ways this could have ended without dragging TNG into the finale. Still, it wasn't totally terrible!
Why do all the best sci-fi shows get canceled early. This could have gone at least 5 more seasons and when JJ Abrams used the storyline for the current star trek movies.. What does that tell you. Best show ever
ive watched enterprise a few times now I always stop before the last episode . I far prefer Star Trek Enterprise S04E21 being my last episode The real last episode E 22 felt like a kick in the teeth to all the actors on enterprise having TNG looking back
I agree! When I saw episode 21, I truly believed this could have been, and should have been, the finale. There was so much that could have been done if it ended on episode 21. However, mostly, I just feel as if the show-runners let Enterprise go out on the back of another show! They didn't give Enterprise the respect it deserved by allowing it to be carried out by TNG, rather than allowing it to go out on its own! It didn't even go out as a crew in real-time, but rather, as some holographic account of historical events! To me, this finale, is just TNG boldly going where they weren't invited and didn't belong!
It was a disappointing end to a very promising series. It would have been disappointing even if it wasn't so rough a plot. It was clear from the story in that episode that a lot of story arcs were lost in the process of closing out that show.
I've seen it twice. I rarely, or never do that. I'll probably watch it a third time. I love T'pol, she's always sending me signals, but I get jealous when she takes to Trip, but I can't hold it against him he's such a good guy. We'll have to use some quantum masteries to save him, but only after T'pol had a chance to move on & accept her destiny with me. I miss tho.
Very honest answer. I'll be honest, I liked Scott Bakula better in Quantum Leap, where he killed it. But Enterprise has grown on me and tbh it's like Shakespeare compared to all Trek that came after it. I wish they had done the full seven years. You could tell that a very touching storyline between Archer and T'Pol was just vaporized stillborn despite big hints of what might have been, particularly their final scene together.
Though I wholeheartedly agree with the overall sentiment on this board about the Enterprise finale and ESPECIALLY CBS, this just reinforced my opinion of what a class act Scott Bakula is!
Enterprise went from mediocre to some of the best Trek around by about midway in the third season. The payoff of watching the first seasons was unmatched by the other series. It was super unfortunate that it ended that way.
Just finished the series again and I couldn't agree more about payoff. I don't hate the first two but in the thrid and fourth seasons the show is just so good it still shocks me that many trekkies hate. Particularly "In a Mirror, Darkly" is so good IMO especially after watching the whole series. I read that Linda Park said those were her favorite episodes and I can see why. I absolutely love Enterprise.
It really rewarded you for watching all four series. Terra Prime was the true ending and I'll probably say that to myself, and imagine Trip and T'Pol going off to have babies together and living a happy life.
Their last season was really starting to get good, such a shame it ended then. I felt like they made the best of their series finale, but the show really deserved a couple more seasons.
Personally, I think ST: Enterprise was the victim of the times (ie. when reality TV was dominating the airwaves). When the show finally ended and the closing credits were rolling, I remember thinking (sarcastically): oh great.... what are they replacing this show with? More America's Next Top Model? The sad part of it all was that, there really wasn't anything else for me to tune into back then.... and I didn't have cable TV (actually, I still don't.... by choice... because apart from the unit itself and commercials/ads, ain't no way I'm paying for TV programming!). 'Reality TV'? BULL! With the stresses I go through in real life, I watch shows like Star Trek to ESCAPE reality! Sons of btchs! And I couldn't really appreciate what they turned 'Smallville' into when it was also nearing its last seasons. At least now (in 2018) things aren't so bad........ the whole 'superhero' thing has netted me at least 3 shows that I like to watch during the course of the week: 'The Flash', 'Legends of Tomorrow', and to a lesser extent 'Arrow'. I was a little late getting into 'Supernatural'... didn't get into it until almost 2008, actually (3 years after Enterprise). But I digress. These days, I still wish that there was a Star Trek on REGULAR TV...... since I'm STILL not ever gonna willingly pay for programming (ie. Star Trek Discovery). I'm used to watching Star Trek on regular TV - FOR FREE.... that's what I grew up on.... and that's what I want again! BRING STAR TREK BACK TO REGULAR TV!
To be fair to them, it wasn't entirely their fault. They thought that they had another season left at least, and had planned storylines for S5, but they were told late that it would be cancelled, so the writers and producers had to wrap everything up in a few episodes.
I believe that Trip was pulled from that explosion by the same people that were always pulling Captain Archer out of harm and into the future. Trip is now a Time Agent, and he secretly helps the Enterprise crew whenever he can.
The Xindi, Suliban and Denobulans, how come we never heard of any of them in TOS, TNG, DS9, Voyager or the films? OK so let's bring in Ferengi and Borg, who we didn't know about until TNG, or Romulans who we never saw until "Balance of Terror." They could and should have done a lot more on the origins of the Federation, the Andorians and Telerites. Voyager did a much better job with time paradoxes. Should have left it there. There were some outstanding episodes that took on social issues as Star Trek always did so well. "Carbon Creek" and "North Star" come to mind. My most fitting memory of the whole series was it was just Riker and Troi's holodeck program. I'd give "These are the Voyages" a 10 out of 10 if they hadn't knocked off Trip for no reason. Enterprise is a perfect example of what happens when you let the marketing department determine the script.
Well, the Federation does contain, supposedly, hundreds of different species (Yet, their ships are 95% human...) and all the named species on the show together don't amount to how many are apparently in the Federation. So I can overlook the 'seen then, not now' peoples. And we never saw the Romulans until Balance of Terror but it's specifically stated they had met long before then in the Earth-Romulan War.
Yeah. I never saw the ending but I did see as much of the series as I could because its trek. And this, behind the scenes of the ending and how it upset everyone just bums me out
With all the streaming services out there it seems someone would've taken a chance on Enterprise but he's right I didn't enjoy TNG's or DS9's endings either I didn't want the game to end.
I would love to see someone do Star Trek: Federation. A story on how the Federation started and nearly ended. Oh yea and for GOD sake keep Gene’s brat away from it ! He’ll make it stupid and flashy … good god 😢
The Enterprise shows were excellent and were cut off too soon at only 4 seasons. Its stands so well on its own. Discovery is OK, and Picard has been a disappointment, its just lost its way
One of the worst mistakes on TV cutting Enterprise off at the knees. Firefly, too. Science fiction gets the rawest deals while the crap goes on without end.
It was a GD disgrace, humiliating everyone who worked on the show by bringing in retread characters from TNG to lead the proceedings and having them tell stories to each other about Archer's time in the same kind of stilted way characters recite exposition dialogue to explain stuff to the viewer. So condescending and lame. Bakula kept it classy answering this question here, as he's not a confrontational guy, which is fine. Doesn't want to burn bridges. OK, sure, the theme song sucked, and they had a rough time getting going early on (remember the snooze-fest episodes from TNG Seasons 1 and 2?????), but the Suliban/Temporal Cold War and Xindi arcs were noble efforts that succeeded on several levels, and I'm betting that the Season 5 plan to finally delve into the Federation-Romulan War could have been a third-time's-a-charm deal, but we'll never know.
or _the producers_ lost confidence in the series ... cramming three seasons into one final episode. Nuts! This explains much. Maybe it was a bad answer, yet it good to see part of the explanation. and flash forward to 2019 and all the woke garbage, _they_ attempt to push down the on the fans and other interested parties. crazy times!
I've mixed feelings with regards to Enterprise. I liked the crew, I loved the concept of starting it before the Federation was formed and some of the episodes were brilliant. At its best, it was some of the best Trek I'd seen. But at its worst...deary me, it could be really, really terrible. Enterprise suffered because of an indifferent 2nd season and the 3rd season Xindi Arc which could have been done in 6-8 episodes rather than 24. However, on the strength of the 4th season, Enterprise absolutely deserved at least another season particularly with Manny Coto at the helm. I wish we'd have seen the Earth-Romulan War in Season 5 and the proper formation of the Federation because I think Coto and everyone else would have done an amazing job.
Berman and Braga just blew it and were rightfully terminated from the franchise. They played it too safe in my opinion. The first ep set a nice tone but it was all wasted.
+Alex J Season 3 was awesome! It was a non stop ride through the expanse, probably my favorite season of Trek ever. But that's just my opinion, I'm a much bigger fan of Enterprise than most.
+Naterrs - I agree that there were some great episodes in Season 3 and it's perhaps undeservedly maligned. However, there were some very weak episodes and the arc could have been done in 8-10 episodes at most. The problem with a Season arc is that you have to be a real fan to watch it all the way through and it's not something that people can casually pick up. Season 2 unfortunately killed Enterprise. They were maybe 4-5 good episodes and the rest were mediocre or downright appalling. I loved the idea of a prequel but not exploring the Romulan War or the formation of the Federation were massively missed opportunities. Thus, I think it's a real shame that Enterprise didn't get a fifth season - a fifth season of 2-3 episode arcs with the occasional 1 single episode would have worked really well. Coto did a fabulous job in Season 4.
Most critically acclaimed and/or popular TV shows these days should be watched all the way through or you'll be lost, The Walking Dead, Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, Lost...anyway that's what I loved about it, no other Star Trek series had a complete season of non-stop episodes like that to my knowledge. I agree that the fourth season was also great, with the exception of the horrible finale, and that there should have been another season. I died a little inside today after re-watching the final episodes of Enterprise, they were canceled too early and there hasn't been another Trek series since.
I really didn't like the Xindi Arc... I know the Federation and its early members are bound to have conflicts, but the fact that such a big conflict was never mentioned in any of the TV series or movies, makes the intensity/indepthness of the war stupid. More time should have been spent on the Romulan Earth conflict, and more of the struggles of an early Federation/Coalition.
If they'd had Manny Coto in charge of ENTERPRISE, it WOULD have run the full 7 years that all the other iterations of Star Trek ran. Instead, Beavis & Butthead (aka Berman & Bragga) ran this into the ground. If I ever have a chance to meet up with either of those 2, I'll give them my best "Beavis & Butthead" LOOGIE, right in their faces.
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Youre not alone Scott. That episode was the most disappointing one to me as well. Enterprise deserved soo much more. Paramount screwed you over and many fans betrayed you guys. I for one was 100% in support of the show.
CBS, not paramount. Although they always techically where owned by the same conglomerate, they functioned as independent companies with paramount having to pay licensing fees. I believe with the remearger between CBS and Viacom in 2019 the two are effectively the same company with separate business cost centers.
@@shayneoneill1506 and apparently they have renewed interest in Star Trek with all these spin-off series
Absolutely !!!
Bakula is being generous and gentlemanly. The finale of Enterprise was lukewarm shit and everyone knows it. The show and cast deserved much better.
Petition for renewal? Crowd funding?
@@Sagittarius-81 it’s been tried before but to no avail……so far. I do know there was one circulating at one point. Write to the ceo of cbs studios, I did recently
@@chrisloesch1870 Reboot?
such a nice man. He always keeps his cool and never bashes anyone
Yes, he answered in a classy manor.
Enterprise was a brilliant show, especially seasons 3 and 4.
Should not have been cancelled when it was, and they most certainly shouldn't have killed Trip. Something like that makes rewatching it in the future pretty tough. Why not have a final mission that brings Trip and T'Pol together again after being split up for a few years?
But hey, we saw what happened with Game of Thrones when a conclusion was rushed.
I think realistically the penultimate episode should have been the last one. I enjoyed seeing Troi and Riker, and it brought out some great moments from the NX01 crew, but leaving it after defeating Terra Prime would have been a fitting end.
I’m almost halfway through and should I watch the last episode or end with terra prime? I’ve heard that in reality that Trip didn’t actually die according to some spinoff novel I heard about.
@@Andy1341000 You can watch the last episode, but just view it as a bonus feature lol. They killed trip just to have something dramatic happen in the last episode. The book perfectly erases the last episode, and even openly mocks it with all the criticism people directed at it. Within 24 hours the fans had torn the last episode to pieces online. Most of the cast was very critical or even upset with it, and eventually the writers apologized. They tried to cram a season into the last episode and make the fans happy, but it just failed.
God forbid that the writers put Trip and T’Pol together again. If was a bad pairing in the first place. Put her with Archer.
@@usul573 Yeah, I see "Terra Prime" as the last episode and then "These Are The Voyages..." as a hastily done.. extra bonus "fan special" episode. I think Enterprise should have gone at least on to a 5th season.. or better yet 6th and 7th. Sure they could have skipped the theme song having lyrics, and also it should have had the Star Trek title in it from the beginning (and not have been called just Enterprise), but still those are just minor nitpicks.
@@cakestalker Yeah if they got a fifth season, and were told it would be the last season, then it could have had a proper ending.
Jonathan archer my favorite captain by far, thank you Scott!
Enterprise was a totally underrated show. IMO, it is definitely in the top 3 Star Trek series, and, personally, I put it as number 2 after NG.
was so disrespectful to Bakula and the team to pull the Next Gen stunt, the producers knew that was it for a generation on Trek on TV and tried to sign off the next gen era instead of singing off enterprise.
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The final episode was abysmal. An obese Riker playing Chef. Deanna with a patronizing comment to a frozen Archer..."He was cute." They thought tossing in Shran would appease the fans. It fucking sucked. The baby Elizabeth episode should have been the finale.
My favorite series of all. Wish it would've lasted a few more seasons.
Final episode was rushed and a disappointment, especially when troy and riker walked out when Archer was just about to give the speech.. Including the speech would be a bit better.
UPN could've spared two hours for the finale.
He makes a good point about them trying to cram the main points of about three seasons of main ideas into a single episode and by telling it through the point of view of someone “cliff noting “ it on the holodeck was a way to do that.
It’s sort of like having a beloved novelist in the middle of a engaging series of books finding out he was going to to die before he could complete it, so he shares with his fans the guideline he had written up for the last few books in the series. It would have been nice if seasons 4-7 of Enterprises had come out in a series of short novels or something
I really wish that Enterprise would not have been cancelled. I liked the series more than some of the other Star Trek series. I still do. Thank you cast of Enterprise for giving us 4 years. I miss you!
Watching Enterprise 10 years later made me appreciate it much much more .
And now doing the same with Voyager ,but Enterprise is special because it comes across as they are always behind and learning on the run . Not as stiff as Voyager comes across . Each has its silver lining, Enterprise really could have had 3 more seasons , or at least do 3 movies
Enterprise as aged very well, and I suspect its to do with the tone. TNG was kind of "the middle class in space", where as Enterprise was "the working class in space". The uniforms look like Naval uniforms, the interiors are functional , looking like a naval ship or even a NASA spacecraft (lots of *stuff* attached tto walls, visible cables on the monitrs ettc), rather than aestheic and everyone is kind of at work rather than lounging around listening to violin concertos and stuff. And that working class feeling of grinding your 9-5 , even if it happens to be your favorite thing, is something I think most people can relate to. Thats not to say Enterprise was the first for that, DS9 was very working class as well, right down to people spending their time a Quarks bar and lamenting their hard days at work, hell it even featured labor struggles like the bar staff going on strike over wages. And I kinda think DS9 has aged excellently too (Theres a reason i tends to be the favorite of so many hard-core trekkies)
@@shayneoneill1506 meh ds9 was too TNG like. It tried to hard to be gritty but never felt authentic. Voyager was TNG light and uptight with probably the least talented cast of the 5 series including ENT. You could tell that Berman and Braga were out of ideas too at the end of Voyagers run.
Ten years later and I'm still bitter about Enterprise getting cancelled!! I always get stick for this but Enterprise was my fave of the whole Star Trek series - personally I liked the whole masculine tone of it as opposed to the TNG campiness. But Goddamn everybody in the writing staff and at CBS deserves to be shot at close range for that finale episode they turned out - at least give them one more season to tie-up the loose ends. Such a travesty.
Yeah! Totally agreed! I haven't seen The Next Generation since I was a kid and having just finished watching Enterprise again, I'm still in a Star Trek mood. So I watched some clips of the first series of The Next Generation on UA-cam and I can't believe how Politically Correct it was! The Political Correctness then is no where near as bad as it is now, but you can see it must have started in that era! The first episode had men wearing dresses with skirts FFS!
Mine too - they had to do the most with the least - no Federation, no replicators, no holodecks, very few allies, much, less technology, no superhuman characters (like Data), and 10 days post 9-11 series premiere, plus a less than stellar choice for the opening music, this show overcame a lot of crap thrown at it and it is now my favorite of all.
Ditto , you are so right about the masculine energy of the show. It's powerful, and you feel it strongly on rare occasions when it breaks through all of today's pc.
I loved all of Enterprise, even the finale.✍️😷
I feel the same way about Enterprise being canceled, but it was even worse for me when Star Trek, Original Series was cancelled. What's wrong with TV network executives? They are idiots.
Very diplomatic, thought the last episode sooooo disappointing. Watched a second time thinking maybe I had misjudged it...... I DID NOT!
He was holding back for sure. I think a good chunk of the Fandom knows how horribly everything was handled with ENT. It's too bad really. This cast was really good.
I enjoyed Enterprise so much. I feel that it brought back the spirit of star trek after DS9. DS9 was great, but it wasn't about exploration and discovery as much as Enterprise was.
Loved this series. There was so much more ground to cover and stories to be told.
Bakula is such a class act. He's always had this air of benevolence about him.
Last episode aside, my favorite captain, my favorite cast. The best Star Trek imo. Was sad when it ended.
The funny thing is that they eventually retconned the episode. They released a book that completely changes the thing that a lot of people (myself included) hated the most about the episode. For anyone that’s interested, the book is called The Good That Men Do. The synopsis of the book completely spoils what I’m referring to, which is kind of a bummer because that would have been a fantastic reveal in the book, but whatever. At least what happened in the series finale of Enterprise isn’t the full story anymore, like it was when it first aired.
Scott was one of thr best to do the show i really enjoyed the cast chemistry i wish they skiped ahead in time with the show when they could afford to do it. Any network that didnt pick this show up really missed a wonderful opportunity.... Hard to see such an amazing cast lose such a good show
When Enterprise came out, I watched it because it's Trek and we all watch. Before I knew it, I was hooked.
The premise, the cast, even the theme song were all fantastic. We all agree all good things come to an end, just wish it was a better send-off.
I don't care what anybody says Enterprise was the best of the shows I still am angry it got axed. I was so into finding out how the Federation was born that would have been a good story line. It was cool to see how the technology like transporters where introduced and where phasers and photon torpedoes came from e.t.c. I thought the drama and the acting was much better in Enterprise as well my favorite cast set up. :)
I hear you brother. Enterprise was the best of the lot in my opinion. Ten years later and I'm still bitter!
They should not have used PHASE pistols on Star Trek: Enterprise because LATER Capt Pike & his crew of the more advanced Enterprise (before Kirk) were still using LASERS!!! Did anyone notice this?
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Who cares...That was a pilot episode before the show was totally revamped. Kirk used Phasers
@@utuBrV1oI The pilot isn't considered Canon.
I thought a movie would be great. Bring back Tripp. It was so stupid to kill him off. Totally ruined the ending. Accomplished nothing. Maybe Dr Flox could have a creature in the new episode that brings Tripp back to life. I've been a life long Trekkie. This was the best
Phlox and Trip*. and I agree that his death was a dumb idea. Really sad scene, but it would have been more impactful to see the crew have to continue without him.
Brian Brachel+ Read the books, all nine of them. They did bring Tripp back. He and T'pol get back together. He is sent on a secret mission to Romulan space. That's why they faked his death.
Early Federation and making peace between Vulcans and Adorians really spoke to the core of what Trek was. NuTrek is garbage in comparison. Archer was just as good as Picard or Sisko.
I am sure it would be great if there are more episodes. Can't get rid of it. Jonathan archer and his crew together are a beautiful combination, the've created a piece of magnificent work. They make me surprise, laugh and cry each time I see it.
I can't remember who it was, but somebody on Enterprise said they thought the two-part episode with Peter Weller where they create the ill-fated child of T'Pol and Trip was the real last episode if not a finale per se. I take some consolation in that. The little speech that Phlox gives about being family at the end had the kind of emotional truth and human dignity the series deserved. By far my favourite Star Trek.
That is correct. These are the voyages was Berman and Braga coming back in and interfering again as they had done throughout seasons 1 & 2 (part of the reason the show got canceled in the first place). Midway through season 3 manny Coto had taken over writing and production hence why the show’s quality improved dramatically. The last episode was Bermans last hurrah (he retired in 2005) and they produced that last horrible episode that the entire cast hated except Trinneer. Manny Coto begged paramount and cbs to renew them for a season 5 but they refused unfortunately. Once it was clear season 4 was going to be the last Coto rewrote Terra prime to have trio and t’pols baby die but the last scene of them sitting in t’pols quarters grieving was intended to be the end with a positive moment. Berman and Braga butchered the last episode and only succeeded in stroking their own egos and alienating fans.
Have loved Scott Bakula since Quantum Leap in my early teens. Seems he feels the same as us Enterprise fans. Seems like a great bloke too.
The true series finale to Enterprise is Terra Prime. These Are The Voyages actually takes place during The Pegasus in TNG, right after Riker sees Dr. Crusher.
I have so much respect for Scott Bakula!!!! I LOVE ENTERPRISE, he did such a good Job, it would have been soooo fucking interesting to see how the Federation formed.
Why don't they cancel fucking Discovery?! Or Picard? Such crap!!! Enterprise was gold compared to that.
Scott, i hope you're doing good, hopefully there will be Enterprise-Federation or something in which you act as Admiral Archer.
yes, how far have they and we fallen? Cancelling a good series early and for some reason the worst possible versions of Trek can not be canceled to save the real, ST culture.
Before, Trek was enlightened. Now Trek is regressive, woke garbage and propaganda.
It was a damn mistake that this show was cancelled
Start a Kickstarter campaign to raise money to bring Enterprise back to television or maybe even a film. It worked for Veronica Mars, which was/is kind of a preppy chick show for girls. The Enterprise bridge and most of the set is owned/housed in a millionaire's garage in Germany. Scott Bakula met the guy and can be in touch with him.
The thing is, it's been 13 years since it last aired, the cast have moved on, the sets have to be recreated, and with the CBS/Viacom split, making a new ST show isn't that easy due to different companies owning different parts of ST (idiots for splitting it up like that).
You're best starting afresh with a new series, like they have done with ST:DIS - I've watched all the episodes so far, and definitely has a lot potential. I wouldn't have called Star Trek in the title though, I would have said it was based upon Star Trek, but it's a completely different series.
It wouldn't work because since 2007, CBS tied the franchise down with a contract to Bad Robot and Secret Hideout, where everything's gotta be legally distinct from the old canon.
@@BlueSatoshi Has that been verified though or is that just speculation? And is that really still the case?
I wasn’t too keen on the whole Xindi story arc, but I thought that it generally got better over time. Would have been nice to see the planned Federation birth story get completed properly.
Enterprise and Voyager are my favourites. Phlox, Trip and 'the Doctor'/EMH are my favourite characters! The final episode was a huge let down. I cried over Sim, then Elizabeth and then Trip. Was very emotional.
I hate Voyager though.
The ending of Enterprise was so stupid! I hated that they were just holograms and that they killed Trip. I have watched the series several times but I never watch the last episode.
Lookup the novel that changes the ending.
I wasn't that big of a fan. I like archer and trip. Couldn't stand Tpal. Didn't like that they did to vulcans... Changed what they were. It started out good imo got lost along the way. Still better than DS9.
The only sci-fi show I ever thought had a great send off was Stargate SG-1. Every other one I felt was heartbreaking and very minimal closure
You can like almost taste how better he is about this poor guy, I grew up watching quantum leap so I've always been a Scott fan. I thought enterprise was an amazing show It had such great potential.
SG1 was guaranteed for 2 seasons, which is what they pitched for. The producers said it needed 2 seasons to flesh out the story and set everything up for later seasons. It worked.
Pretty DIPLOMATIC on the part of Scott Bakula and dare I say a bit revisionist based on what the cast leaked afterword. In fact it was so badly received by audiences that Berman and Braga (the show's original producer and writer) were called into a public press conference to explain what exactly happened.
In fact I have no idea what he (Bakula) is talking about "going along with it". It was leaked during the re-filming of the final scenes of that episode that Bakula actually went off on Braga and Berman backstage after seeing Jolene (T'Pol) break down in tears at how badly the episode was turning out and how Paramount Studios was handling the cancellation. It's also worth mentioning that Braga and Berman rewrote / refilmed the ending of "These are the Voyages" because originally it was filmed early in season 4 as a mirror episode but was so bad that the studio rejected it and relegated it to the trash heap. Manny Coto (who had taken over writing and production midway through season 3 and resurrected the show's ratings), vehemently objected to the episode arguing that "Terra Prime" was supposed to be the last episode, but noooo Berman and Braga had to get the last laugh. In fact "These are the Voyages" was Berman's last hurrah (he retired in 2005) and was really a throwback to his TNG glory days. Everything about the story made no sense based on the developments of seasons 3 and 4. It was like B&B were trying to trash everything Coto did to turn the series around (which he did).
Love to see the passion
Amazing it's been nearly 16 years since the end of Enterprise. To put into perspective, that is nearly as long as when TOS ended and TNG started (18 years).
About 12 years since the reboot movie where the villain said "the wait is over".
Time passage sucks
I was not happy with the end of the show cause I want all off you to come back.
This guy really commands the kind of respect a leader should.
bring it back!.please
Enterprise was a great show been watching on netflix hope there's more Star Trek coming to TV... Enterprise was underrated ... Archers the George Washington of space
I guess that makes Kirk the George Bush
That was a good answer Scott. I absolutely believe the actors had NO say in the stories and story arcs.
As the show progresses on, they do have a say, but it's limited.
If they are going to stamp their feet, and say "not doing it, you can't make me do it, so... there...", then the actors better have a good reason for it. If you're going to die on a hill, is it worth it?
@@Locutus yeah ok, for small things, I agree. This wasn’t small, but you’re right.
Let's not forget that many of the actors took turns writing the episodes, and even directing them. So in many ways, they were all quite involved on sometimes a deep level.
The question was how he felt about it, not what control he had in making it. I get why he's being diplomatic and I love the actor and the show, but that wasn't a good answer.
And I wanted it to keep going, too.
Same here!
He was so nice about the finale it was so sad that it ended I just finished watching it last night and I cried during it
At the end, Archer had his new Job, the others went on to teach and to their new ships. But T"Pol just stood there all alone with tears in her eyes thinking, What am I supposed to do now? My Captain's moved on, the crew has split up and Trip's dead.....
It was like all of us took a bullet to the heart too.
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We wanted it to keep going, too. Love you all.
yeah, sooo many fans wanted it to keep going.
It would be great if they made an Enterprise movie. While TOS & TNG are the only ones to have had full length movies, I've always wanted to see DS9, VOY and ENT all have movies. That said, ENT really, really deserves a movie due to the way it ended with a boatload of loose ends. We never see the details of the formation of the Federation (Archer was supposed to be the 1st President), conflicts & wars with the Romulans & Klingons, new technology introduced & perfected, subtle uniform changes, later histories on characters like T'Pol, Hoshi, Reed, Phlox, and Mayweather. And above all else--(drumroll) a clear, canonical explanation (with no ambiguity) as to who Future Guy really was!
Bring it back! Same cast too
I'm afraid, they are past it, too much time has past.
@@Locutus Picard?
@@JohnS-ol8dn Notice the name of the show. Star Trek Picard, not TNG Season 8. You have some of the TNG characters and other ST characters guest star in it. The storyline is a bit silly, so far.
Picard should be about Picard, we should learn more about him, not him gallivanting around the galaxy.
@@Locutus yeah...but I agree we're not gonna get it.
I'm making the point that I'll take what I can get...nothing else.
@@Locutus Well no, they can bring back Star Trek: Enterprise. CGI and make-up can make the actors look younger again or, if they cannot do a live action series again, an animation series is the next best option.
Archer. El mejor capitán y sin duda, insuperable actor. No puedo imaginar a nadie.
fundó los cimientos dentro del universo de Star trek, de verdad fue un excelente actor, y su actuación iba muy acorde, fue genial ver como sus acciones perdurarían a través del tiempo
I liked Enterprise. It should have kept going... and Farscape.
What a Gent!!! So humble
Only watch my enterprise now in 2018 and it’s an amazing show. Not looking forward to the last episode as from what everyone says it’s terrible. Why did they cancel such a great show.
I would of enjoyed a few more seasons myself, but with what we got I enjoyed every minute of it. I felt it was the most genuine because they were not over powered.
You can tell he wasn't happy with the finale, but he took the highroad. I will say, this wasn't the worst series ending of all time, but it wasn't the best either.... For me, this ending was simply Riker, Troi and TNG boldly going where they weren't invited and didn't truly belong!
Enterprise should have been given the respect of going out on its own and not on the shoulders of another TV show! The show-runners should have had more confidence in the show's abilities and allowed Enterprise to go out on its own, rather than be carried out by TNG. And if having the crew of the NX-01 meet the crew of Enterprise D in some "time travel" episode was something the show-runners wanted to do at some point, they should have scrapped it and walked away from it. However, if this show had to be paired with another show, then it should have been paired with TOS and not TNG because that would have made a lot more sense.
My ending would have closed its final moments with T'Pol at the ceremony for the Enterprise NC-1701's maiden voyage and T'Pol, being very old at this point, and wishing Captain Christopher Pike (not Kirk) long life and prosperity. However, as she was leaving, I would then have her see Spock in her periphery and approach him as well to wish him good luck. Of course, we'd only see Spock's back, but they could have created dialogue by using voice recordings from old shows to create a memorable conversation. T'Pol could have spoken to Spock with a human-like quality, which Spock would find strange, but "fascinating". This would be a great moment between T'Pol and Spock because we all know where Spock and human feelings end up many years later! And, an ending like this would certainly be like Starfleet's original Vulcan science officer passing the torch to the new Vulcan science officer - and that's how you end a TV series!
Again, there are so many ways this could have ended without dragging TNG into the finale. Still, it wasn't totally terrible!
Why do all the best sci-fi shows get canceled early. This could have gone at least 5 more seasons and when JJ Abrams used the storyline for the current star trek movies.. What does that tell you. Best show ever
ive watched enterprise a few times now
I always stop before the last episode .
I far prefer Star Trek Enterprise S04E21 being my last episode
The real last episode E 22 felt like a kick in the teeth to all the actors on enterprise having TNG looking back
I agree! When I saw episode 21, I truly believed this could have been, and should have been, the finale. There was so much that could have been done if it ended on episode 21.
However, mostly, I just feel as if the show-runners let Enterprise go out on the back of another show! They didn't give Enterprise the respect it deserved by allowing it to be carried out by TNG, rather than allowing it to go out on its own! It didn't even go out as a crew in real-time, but rather, as some holographic account of historical events! To me, this finale, is just TNG boldly going where they weren't invited and didn't belong!
It was a disappointing end to a very promising series. It would have been disappointing even if it wasn't so rough a plot. It was clear from the story in that episode that a lot of story arcs were lost in the process of closing out that show.
I didn't hate the last episode, I just thought it did a disservice to the series. They pretty much wrapped it up by not really wrapping it up.
Unfortunately, they were only given 1 season of notice to wrap everything up. They did the best they could under the circumstances.
I've seen it twice. I rarely, or never do that. I'll probably watch it a third time. I love T'pol, she's always sending me signals, but I get jealous when she takes to Trip, but I can't hold it against him he's such a good guy. We'll have to use some quantum masteries to save him, but only after T'pol had a chance to move on & accept her destiny with me. I miss tho.
An EXTERMELY diplomatic answer from Mr Bakula!
Yep
Very honest answer. I'll be honest, I liked Scott Bakula better in Quantum Leap, where he killed it. But Enterprise has grown on me and tbh it's like Shakespeare compared to all Trek that came after it. I wish they had done the full seven years. You could tell that a very touching storyline between Archer and T'Pol was just vaporized stillborn despite big hints of what might have been, particularly their final scene together.
Bring it back!
I Loved Star Treck Enterprice. For me ir was the best one!!!!. The actors was the best. Please bring ir back.
Though I wholeheartedly agree with the overall sentiment on this board about the Enterprise finale and ESPECIALLY CBS, this just reinforced my opinion of what a class act Scott Bakula is!
Enterprise went from mediocre to some of the best Trek around by about midway in the third season. The payoff of watching the first seasons was unmatched by the other series. It was super unfortunate that it ended that way.
Just finished the series again and I couldn't agree more about payoff. I don't hate the first two but in the thrid and fourth seasons the show is just so good it still shocks me that many trekkies hate. Particularly "In a Mirror, Darkly" is so good IMO especially after watching the whole series. I read that Linda Park said those were her favorite episodes and I can see why. I absolutely love Enterprise.
It really rewarded you for watching all four series. Terra Prime was the true ending and I'll probably say that to myself, and imagine Trip and T'Pol going off to have babies together and living a happy life.
I have watched enterprise several times the whole lot of em, and I LOVE THEM, i wish it could have carried on, they were all brilliant. love them all.
Once, just once, I wanted an episode of ST:ENT to start with the line "Oh, boy!" Just once.
If that would have happened, everything would have gone....ca ca.
Jonathan Archer wakes on Romulus as the Praetor with a Swiss-cheese memory . . .oh boy !!
They weren't the only ones who were unhappy. It should have kept going and the final episode should be erased from history
Their last season was really starting to get good, such a shame it ended then. I felt like they made the best of their series finale, but the show really deserved a couple more seasons.
Personally, I think ST: Enterprise was the victim of the times (ie. when reality TV was dominating the airwaves). When the show finally ended and the closing credits were rolling, I remember thinking (sarcastically): oh great.... what are they replacing this show with? More America's Next Top Model? The sad part of it all was that, there really wasn't anything else for me to tune into back then.... and I didn't have cable TV (actually, I still don't.... by choice... because apart from the unit itself and commercials/ads, ain't no way I'm paying for TV programming!). 'Reality TV'? BULL! With the stresses I go through in real life, I watch shows like Star Trek to ESCAPE reality! Sons of btchs! And I couldn't really appreciate what they turned 'Smallville' into when it was also nearing its last seasons.
At least now (in 2018) things aren't so bad........ the whole 'superhero' thing has netted me at least 3 shows that I like to watch during the course of the week: 'The Flash', 'Legends of Tomorrow', and to a lesser extent 'Arrow'. I was a little late getting into 'Supernatural'... didn't get into it until almost 2008, actually (3 years after Enterprise). But I digress. These days, I still wish that there was a Star Trek on REGULAR TV...... since I'm STILL not ever gonna willingly pay for programming (ie. Star Trek Discovery). I'm used to watching Star Trek on regular TV - FOR FREE.... that's what I grew up on.... and that's what I want again! BRING STAR TREK BACK TO REGULAR TV!
Same here, the flash and legends of tmorrow are epic. Just torrent discovery, its not worth paying for.
I want my Trip back-ula!
I think ENT was ended too fast
I wanted 1 more year as there was more story line to play out for me
The creators blamed themselves for rushing the episode
To be fair to them, it wasn't entirely their fault. They thought that they had another season left at least, and had planned storylines for S5, but they were told late that it would be cancelled, so the writers and producers had to wrap everything up in a few episodes.
@@Locutus At least they didn't call the fans manbabies for not liking the series.
I believe that Trip was pulled from that explosion by the same people that were always pulling Captain Archer out of harm and into the future. Trip is now a Time Agent, and he secretly helps the Enterprise crew whenever he can.
Trip is dead... Sorry, it breaks my heart, but it is, what it is.
What about the last episode of Quantum Leap? That pissed me off.
The Xindi, Suliban and Denobulans, how come we never heard of any of them in TOS, TNG, DS9, Voyager or the films? OK so let's bring in Ferengi and Borg, who we didn't know about until TNG, or Romulans who we never saw until "Balance of Terror." They could and should have done a lot more on the origins of the Federation, the Andorians and Telerites. Voyager did a much better job with time paradoxes. Should have left it there. There were some outstanding episodes that took on social issues as Star Trek always did so well. "Carbon Creek" and "North Star" come to mind. My most fitting memory of the whole series was it was just Riker and Troi's holodeck program. I'd give "These are the Voyages" a 10 out of 10 if they hadn't knocked off Trip for no reason.
Enterprise is a perfect example of what happens when you let the marketing department determine the script.
Well, the Federation does contain, supposedly, hundreds of different species (Yet, their ships are 95% human...) and all the named species on the show together don't amount to how many are apparently in the Federation.
So I can overlook the 'seen then, not now' peoples.
And we never saw the Romulans until Balance of Terror but it's specifically stated they had met long before then in the Earth-Romulan War.
These are the Voyages--do you mean the episode that said that the whole series was a fake?
@@skzion2 not fake...a real holodeck program
You've got to be joking. "These are the Voyages" deserves a 1 out of 10. It was terrible.
@@chrisloesch1870 you're being too generous. It deserves a big fat Zero
Enterprise went the way of TOS before I knew about it. Here's wishing they could have kept going and do everything they had hoped with it.
Yeah. I never saw the ending but I did see as much of the series as I could because its trek. And this, behind the scenes of the ending and how it upset everyone just bums me out
Scott Bakula was perfectly cast for this show. It was a shame it wasn't better. It wasn't a bad show at all. Just needed to be better.
Bakula was their first, and only choice for Captain Archer.
The series finale for Enterprise was STUPID. Period.
I love Enterprise. Deserved much better fate.
star trek enterprise was the best
With all the streaming services out there it seems someone would've taken a chance on Enterprise but he's right I didn't enjoy TNG's or DS9's endings either I didn't want the game to end.
Should had a movie more with columbia 💃🏃🚶
I would love to see someone do Star Trek: Federation. A story on how the Federation started and nearly ended. Oh yea and for GOD sake keep Gene’s brat away from it ! He’ll make it stupid and flashy … good god 😢
Scott dont be so diplomatic!!!!!!!!
You can see why he got the role now!
You were a HOT captain as well as a captain with BRAINS, they need to put the show back on as I'm a TRECKIE to my BONES! PEACE IN JESUS
The Enterprise shows were excellent and were cut off too soon at only 4 seasons. Its stands so well on its own.
Discovery is OK, and Picard has been a disappointment, its just lost its way
Discovery is the Worst trek
I think he meant Tellurites.
Scott Bakula is being diplomatic. I can not blame him. The entertainment community is very small and interview quotes are circulated everywhere.
One of the worst mistakes on TV cutting Enterprise off at the knees. Firefly, too. Science fiction gets the rawest deals while the crap goes on without end.
Quizas algun dia, alguien continue la serie, seria muy bueno. Pero no esperen muchos, los actores se van poniendo viejos.
Translation:
Maybe one day, someone will continue the series, it would be very good. But don't expect many, the actors are getting old.
Shame they couldn’t do a quick miniseries like they did with Farscape.
It was a GD disgrace, humiliating everyone who worked on the show by bringing in retread characters from TNG to lead the proceedings and having them tell stories to each other about Archer's time in the same kind of stilted way characters recite exposition dialogue to explain stuff to the viewer. So condescending and lame. Bakula kept it classy answering this question here, as he's not a confrontational guy, which is fine. Doesn't want to burn bridges. OK, sure, the theme song sucked, and they had a rough time getting going early on (remember the snooze-fest episodes from TNG Seasons 1 and 2?????), but the Suliban/Temporal Cold War and Xindi arcs were noble efforts that succeeded on several levels, and I'm betting that the Season 5 plan to finally delve into the Federation-Romulan War could have been a third-time's-a-charm deal, but we'll never know.
Federation-Romulan War ? TOS started out with Romulans be nearly unknown.
@@menacelurkingyet8345 There was a neutral zone in TOS that was the direct result of the war about a century earlier.
It was taken off too soon there was so much they could have done some people I guess with two lazy to make more
or _the producers_ lost confidence in the series ... cramming three seasons into one final episode. Nuts! This explains much. Maybe it was a bad answer, yet it good to see part of the explanation.
and flash forward to 2019 and all the woke garbage, _they_ attempt to push down the on the fans and other interested parties.
crazy times!
I've mixed feelings with regards to Enterprise. I liked the crew, I loved the concept of starting it before the Federation was formed and some of the episodes were brilliant. At its best, it was some of the best Trek I'd seen. But at its worst...deary me, it could be really, really terrible. Enterprise suffered because of an indifferent 2nd season and the 3rd season Xindi Arc which could have been done in 6-8 episodes rather than 24.
However, on the strength of the 4th season, Enterprise absolutely deserved at least another season particularly with Manny Coto at the helm. I wish we'd have seen the Earth-Romulan War in Season 5 and the proper formation of the Federation because I think Coto and everyone else would have done an amazing job.
Berman and Braga just blew it and were rightfully terminated from the franchise. They played it too safe in my opinion. The first ep set a nice tone but it was all wasted.
+Alex J Season 3 was awesome! It was a non stop ride through the expanse, probably my favorite season of Trek ever. But that's just my opinion, I'm a much bigger fan of Enterprise than most.
+Naterrs - I agree that there were some great episodes in Season 3 and it's perhaps undeservedly maligned. However, there were some very weak episodes and the arc could have been done in 8-10 episodes at most.
The problem with a Season arc is that you have to be a real fan to watch it all the way through and it's not something that people can casually pick up.
Season 2 unfortunately killed Enterprise. They were maybe 4-5 good episodes and the rest were mediocre or downright appalling.
I loved the idea of a prequel but not exploring the Romulan War or the formation of the Federation were massively missed opportunities. Thus, I think it's a real shame that Enterprise didn't get a fifth season - a fifth season of 2-3 episode arcs with the occasional 1 single episode would have worked really well. Coto did a fabulous job in Season 4.
Most critically acclaimed and/or popular TV shows these days should be watched all the way through or you'll be lost, The Walking Dead, Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, Lost...anyway that's what I loved about it, no other Star Trek series had a complete season of non-stop episodes like that to my knowledge. I agree that the fourth season was also great, with the exception of the horrible finale, and that there should have been another season.
I died a little inside today after re-watching the final episodes of Enterprise, they were canceled too early and there hasn't been another Trek series since.
I really didn't like the Xindi Arc... I know the Federation and its early members are bound to have conflicts, but the fact that such a big conflict was never mentioned in any of the TV series or movies, makes the intensity/indepthness of the war stupid. More time should have been spent on the Romulan Earth conflict, and more of the struggles of an early Federation/Coalition.
If they'd had Manny Coto in charge of ENTERPRISE, it WOULD have run the full 7 years that all the other iterations of Star Trek ran. Instead, Beavis & Butthead (aka Berman & Bragga) ran this into the ground. If I ever have a chance to meet up with either of those 2, I'll give them my best "Beavis & Butthead" LOOGIE, right in their faces.
Never cared for the ending of Quantum Leap either...
I was a kid and watched that when it aired. I hated Donald P. Bellasario for that.
They didn't shack hands with the Xindi!!
the ending did suck-we lost out-we now have a fight to get it back and let it finish with a few more seasons behind them instead of only 4
Why kill trip? Why end it?
That's a nice way of saying that ending sucked.