Reminds me of a swamp spruce cut we managed north of Nett Lake called the Lucky Seven. One of our contract loggers put a 40’ trimmed spruce straight down through and never found the bottom. If you stood in one place near a machine working you rose up and down from the wave action created. The only place froze on that job was the road (and that broke off in chunks here and there). Tough job and brave loggers. Glad you got your machine out! Lucky You
I must say your attitude is extremely amazing. In such situations I always felt it was advantageous to have a tantrum like an undisciplined child, however, it just made the situation worse. None the less it speaks volumes to your integrity.
David that looked pretty deep, I have heard of big dozers going down in the swamps we have in the U.P. and they just disappear maybe the exhaust stack will be sticking out. A guy once showed me a chunk of 5/8" alloy chain that they used they would chain 2 bulldozers together if the one started going down the other would pull it out. Well they stretched that chain out so bad it was like A iron bar ! Good video David shows how fast things can go bad ,well the Timbco got out no serious damage so all is good. Have a good day and keep the videos coming.
gene merrell :: We have a little of that soft ground down here in The South of Michigan too... The Road Commission is said to have lost a dozer back in the 60’s East of Hastings. Apparently it was stuck bad late in the day... Upon returning the following morning, it was a lost cause!😬 Be Blessed!
I feel for you puts a bad feeling in my stomach every time I see this. I’ve stuck my shovel a couple times sliding off brow logs in a swamp, tipped my excavator into a swamp hole with the boom all the way out and used the thumb to inch out, skidded and cats never makes a guy feel good. Glad to see it crawl out
Hi Dave!!😀😀 Thank goodness your one track stayed on top. Couldn't imagine how deep it might have went. I sunk my little 32 thousand pound tree harvester/ excavators last summer while trying to cross a open marsh on a ditch burn. I was about a quarter mile from high ground. It took a excavator twice as big and 4 mats for him to come out and get me. I was down about 6 feet on one side and 3 on the other. Had quite a time getting it to climb. Hopefully you won't find more soft spots and be able to get it all cut. Good luck buddy!!😀😀 Take care and stay warm!!😀😀 Your friend Al.
@@davidhaley7053 :) Took a bunch of pictures. Kinda had my hands full trying to get her to climb. It was a burn off peat. Took a little video of the hole after we where out. You could hide a Volkswagen in it.
we have had timbco 425 stuck with 6 " mud holding door closed. had to get out the back hatch. it was 60 deg not 40below. had dig out. but the clean up is tuf
I’ve seen steel sheet piles 12 meters long (40 feet) disappear with two hits from a vibro hammer in dry “ hard “ land. Operator couldn’t keep up. And I wasn’t welding another on top. Sewer relocation in a peet swamp. And the machines worked on spreader pads. Your so lucky not to lose your machine.
You were very fortunate. I've seen guys with multiple sliders hooked up trying to get a tracked butcher out. Too much snow for you guys this winter to freeze the swamps good. Keep up the good videos tho!
Wow David that was stuck, I was stuck one time in a 60 thousand pound lime truck and it took 3 farm tractors to pull me out, that was a hard lesson for me!!!
Wow, yes that was bad David lol. I can’t imagine buddy , i run a timbco 445 and the video didn’t do justice to how bad that would be for me. Those machines are much bigger and taller than it seems on camera. That was really down in there. Bet lota thoughts cross your mind climbing in that stuck 60,000 lb machine like what if it falls thru how am I gona get out or whole list of things. Glad everything worked out . Nice job crew!
Been there done that. Should have put some logs under the high side and picked up the buried track & cribbed it. When I was a kid in NW WA the area we lived had swamps 60-90’ deep
Gosh - that looks like the driveway to the grandfathers place. The DOT sunk 2 --10 wheel drives - to the axles. Had to grab a D7 to yank them out. Heck of a mess they left. Deep - yep!
Great video... Glad it came out as successfully as it did. Is that why we call it HEAVY EQUIPMENT? Talk about a stressor. You handled it quite well. I wish I could be so level headed and seemingly calm under similar circumstances. However, there is no sensation quite like the victory of being back on ‘Relatively Solid Ground’. Glad it ended well for you. Remember, machinery makes for terribly expensive fill material! Be Blessed!
Ouch that sucks. Glad you got it out. Mom just had her dog put down. I dug a hole to burry him. I chipped through 8 inches of frost then i was digging in summer. ( it felt like) got waist deep and i hit water. And we been having 0°f ish nights. No snow for awhile but we warmed up some to thaw us a little
@@davidhaley7053 got to moms to fix my trk and had no greeting and then when i went in the house she told me she thought "she was surprised jasper didnt let her know i was there" she finished her thought realizing we buried him monday
yeah we cut swamps like that every winter north and west of thunder bay but when its bouncy i corderoy in front of just in case but yeah its stress full cheers
David, I have seen guys running logging equipment and harvesting tree but this takes the cake. Going to the roots new type of logging. Lmao David Haley. Great job on the videos
Lucky. I've seen video of a similar machine 15 ft underground in the middle of a winter rd.. took them 4 days,many pieces of equipment, alot of trees and a sumo pump..and had to take the main boom off to get it out
@@davidhaley7053 yeah it was ugly. Was a little nerve wracking the last 2 winters trucking right over the spot where it sunk. They put corduroy and mill fabric in and graveled over the cedar bog. The cedar trees shake when you drive over that section
You get any warning at all or just to little to late but glad you made it out thanks for keeping the camera running this time hope you don't have that agian but im worried all the snow we just got could cover up those suck holes
Dang-it! I bet that makes for a lot of suction on the driver's seat too.......crazy to see the conditions you guys need before you can start logging, but in my little bubble here in central Oregon guys can log darn neart year round save a few weeks in spring for break up with the frost and snow coming out of the ground and giving conditions like you had in this video.
I chain wrapped a big 20" birch with 4 boomers each side to the track on a 850 JD cat when that big stick went under I thought I was heading to the moon went straight up till it past center then laid flat again but it`s just like a giant cleat ,But if you can`t get the log out after just cut the hooks God forbid though do what you can without another cat or skidder , I was pulling out a Blowdown of Massive Doug Fir. Gotta be 25 below too right soon as you break that crust the steam comes up and freezes the glass and view LOL.
glad its out bud i,ve had 3 tilt machines in deep had to dig em out ! my kimmy stuck bad now hope i get it 2 morrow or my be lost house flooded etc ! not good !
Thats a crap mud hole. Few years a go. Big union digging company up here stuck a 365 cat excavator. So deep in mud sink hole. The guys tried with another 365. Get it out by time done they left them both completely over the roof. Brand new machines. Friend mine got pictures. I try get them. And another guy up here dredding boat yard. He on a barge and hoojed something. And tipped brand mb ew cat 345 and barge over in ocean. What a mess
Seems if your doing the entire area you need a couple of crane mats to help stay on top , yeah it will slow things and are a pain but sinking the Timco next time in what was that tree 8 feet or more might not be so luck further in to the woods, just a thought. Stay safe
Oops soft spot wasn't the word. Looks like you guys might of done it once or twice and probably won't be the last either. Looks like your on a great big trampoline the way your bouncing up and down. Keep up the great videos
I wonder how many machines have been lost out in swamps over the years? Do you or your Dad know of any. That would make a good video even if they happened many years ago.
@@jo9269 Kyllä noita 70 luvulla koneita ja miehiä soihin hävis, yks pillari risunipun kanssa mies meni, kaks suo ojaa kaivanutta konetta sinne kaks kuoli toisesta ei jääny kun kauhan raapimis jäljet. Liian kallis kone pitäs jättää ajoissa kun suo ojia kaivaa. J a suota meillä on enmm'n kun tarpeeksi.
My dad way back there was logging one day and came across a well in the woods he put 20 70 foot tall trees in it back to back and we never hit the bottom no telling how deep it was lol
Wow you could have buried the whole machine in that ground! When I drive to other areas, I'm always envious of guys that get to work on flat ground. However mountain logging has its benefits you never sink that deep because of rocks and ledge.
oh sure i get kmmy stuck and you just gotta show me up jezzz !!! just kidding bud i feel yer pain, sometimes the cosmos just take a big turd on our heads lol !!!
I've seen a chain bigger than that snap , blew threw a windshield and take the bottom of a mans jaw right off ... Just saying ... Maybe install cages on the cabs .
David Haley Yup ... and it doesn’t get overlooked ... it’s like if you show up at the hospital with a gun shot wound ... it gets reported , then the law and health and safety investigate ... Then the shut down and fines ... Just an FYI this ain’t the 70’s anymore ... Oh and watch what you put on here ... they watch this too lol
Dave, Let's go play in the swamp, it's only 38 below and we're stuck, seriously stuck. Just call 911, problem solved. You showed them though, that's a good thing,without any drama.You better buy the crew dinner or else. If you go a little deeper you might find a mastodon or two.
Reminds me of a swamp spruce cut we managed north of Nett Lake called the Lucky Seven. One of our contract loggers put a 40’ trimmed spruce straight down through and never found the bottom. If you stood in one place near a machine working you rose up and down from the wave action created. The only place froze on that job was the road (and that broke off in chunks here and there). Tough job and brave loggers. Glad you got your machine out! Lucky You
That's deep!!!! Thanks Jim
Sorry for you troubles but loving your videos thanks for sharing
Glad you got the Timbco out Mr.David. You handled yourself like a pro.👍👍 "Thanks for the video, have a great day "
You're welcome! Thanks for watching 👍
I must say your attitude is extremely amazing. In such situations I always felt it was advantageous to have a tantrum like an undisciplined child, however, it just made the situation worse. None the less it speaks volumes to your integrity.
Hahaha. Thanks
Good thing the track stayed on! Got lucky on getting it out. thanks for sharing
Can you imagine if it would've fallen off down there.... No thanks!
You're calm and cool in that situation defies any thing I could muster. Glad it worked out
Oh I was nervous!
David that looked pretty deep, I have heard of big dozers going down in the swamps we have in the U.P. and they just disappear maybe the exhaust stack will be sticking out. A guy once showed me a chunk of 5/8" alloy chain that they used they would chain 2 bulldozers together if the one started going down the other would pull it out. Well they stretched that chain out so bad it was like A iron bar ! Good video David shows how fast things can go bad ,well the Timbco got out no serious damage so all is good. Have a good day and keep the videos coming.
Cool story! Thanks Gene
gene merrell :: We have a little of that soft ground down here in The South of Michigan too... The Road Commission is said to have lost a dozer back in the 60’s East of Hastings.
Apparently it was stuck bad late in the day...
Upon returning the following morning, it was a lost cause!😬
Be Blessed!
I suspect we liked the video much more than you did lol, happy ending that's all that counts, great video, Thanks. Cheers from Nova Scotia Canada
It's amazing how much heat the decaying vegetation produces.
I can now say that all of the times I have been stuck was really nothing. Thanks for the videos.
You're welcome 😊
I remember my dad telling me about a dozer that sank in a swamp. This was dead of winter in northern WI back in the 60's. They never got it out.
That reminder me of the time I sunk the t-pro forwarder up to the axels in North Dakota. Tough day. Keep after it David!
That's pretty stuck!
I feel for you puts a bad feeling in my stomach every time I see this. I’ve stuck my shovel a couple times sliding off brow logs in a swamp, tipped my excavator into a swamp hole with the boom all the way out and used the thumb to inch out, skidded and cats never makes a guy feel good. Glad to see it crawl out
Oh... That sounds like fun... Not!
Wow David that’s some real pucker power right there! Lol take care.
Great video. Even though I’m sure it wasn’t something you wanted to film. Great job explaining the whole process.
Thank you Derek. Long time since I've heard from you.
David Haley I watch all of your videos but I don’t comment a lot.
Holy crap!!! You were really down in there!!! Have a safe week!
Yes I was Terry!
Hi Dave!!😀😀
Thank goodness your one track stayed on top. Couldn't imagine how deep it might have went. I sunk my little 32 thousand pound tree harvester/ excavators last summer while trying to cross a open marsh on a ditch burn. I was about a quarter mile from high ground. It took a excavator twice as big and 4 mats for him to come out and get me. I was down about 6 feet on one side and 3 on the other. Had quite a time getting it to climb.
Hopefully you won't find more soft spots and be able to get it all cut. Good luck buddy!!😀😀
Take care and stay warm!!😀😀
Your friend Al.
Did you make a video of that????
@@davidhaley7053 :) Took a bunch of pictures. Kinda had my hands full trying to get her to climb. It was a burn off peat. Took a little video of the hole after we where out. You could hide a Volkswagen in it.
When they start to sink they sink fast glad you got it out David
Thank you
It just's shows you how deep the swamp is. Glad you got it out.
2nd this!
we have had timbco 425 stuck with 6 " mud holding door closed. had to get out the back hatch. it was 60 deg not 40below. had dig out. but the clean up is tuf
Ouch. That's bad.
new subscriber here, love the humor! it's genuine!
I’ve seen steel sheet piles 12 meters long (40 feet) disappear with two hits from a vibro hammer in dry “ hard “ land. Operator couldn’t keep up. And I wasn’t welding another on top. Sewer relocation in a peet swamp. And the machines worked on spreader pads. Your so lucky not to lose your machine.
Wow. That sounds nerve wracking!
You were very fortunate. I've seen guys with multiple sliders hooked up trying to get a tracked butcher out. Too much snow for you guys this winter to freeze the swamps good. Keep up the good videos tho!
Thanks Jason
Wow David that was stuck, I was stuck one time in a 60 thousand pound lime truck and it took 3 farm tractors to pull me out, that was a hard lesson for me!!!
3??? Yeah that's stuck!!!
Wow, yes that was bad David lol. I can’t imagine buddy , i run a timbco 445 and the video didn’t do justice to how bad that would be for me. Those machines are much bigger and taller than it seems on camera. That was really down in there. Bet lota thoughts cross your mind climbing in that stuck 60,000 lb machine like what if it falls thru how am I gona get out or whole list of things. Glad everything worked out . Nice job crew!
Thanks Brennon
If there is a next time, Yoda does emergency calls but he's pricey
buillioncubes hhahahhahaha. Oh my god🙃
Been there done that.
Should have put some logs under the high side and picked up the buried track & cribbed it.
When I was a kid in NW WA the area we lived had swamps 60-90’ deep
Gosh - that looks like the driveway to the grandfathers place. The DOT sunk 2 --10 wheel drives - to the axles. Had to grab a D7 to yank them out. Heck of a mess they left. Deep - yep!
Wish we had snow here in the south. Great video.
Great video... Glad it came out as successfully as it did. Is that why we call it HEAVY EQUIPMENT? Talk about a stressor. You handled it quite well. I wish I could be so level headed and seemingly calm under similar circumstances. However, there is no sensation quite like the victory of being back on ‘Relatively Solid Ground’. Glad it ended well for you. Remember, machinery makes for terribly expensive fill material!
Be Blessed!
Ouch that sucks. Glad you got it out.
Mom just had her dog put down. I dug a hole to burry him. I chipped through 8 inches of frost then i was digging in summer. ( it felt like) got waist deep and i hit water. And we been having 0°f ish nights. No snow for awhile but we warmed up some to thaw us a little
I bet your mom is bummed. Hard to lose a pet.
@@davidhaley7053 got to moms to fix my trk and had no greeting and then when i went in the house she told me she thought "she was surprised jasper didnt let her know i was there" she finished her thought realizing we buried him monday
I have to believe that if you don't know how to get it out, I can't help you. Thanks for the video.
yeah we cut swamps like that every winter north and west of thunder bay but when its bouncy i corderoy in front of just in case but yeah its stress full cheers
David, I have seen guys running logging equipment and harvesting tree but this takes the cake. Going to the roots new type of logging. Lmao David Haley. Great job on the videos
Another entertaining video. Hats off to you man. Even when your pissed your not really pissed. Level head got you out of that mess.
Thanks Andrew
That is some tuff ground y'all are logging in.
Saturday’s shouldn’t be that difficult thanks for the video David
I agree!! Your welcome.
Reminds me of a tamarack swamp watch out for places that have no trees you might loose your machine.
New subscriber here.
Yes sir! Thanks for the sub!!!
Lucky. I've seen video of a similar machine 15 ft underground in the middle of a winter rd.. took them 4 days,many pieces of equipment, alot of trees and a sumo pump..and had to take the main boom off to get it out
Holy smokes! That's bad!
@@davidhaley7053 yeah it was ugly. Was a little nerve wracking the last 2 winters trucking right over the spot where it sunk. They put corduroy and mill fabric in and graveled over the cedar bog. The cedar trees shake when you drive over that section
It keeps you from getting bored....😂
I really like the videos I have seen so far. Clean language is hard to find especially when things don’t go right.
Thanks Walter 👍
You get any warning at all or just to little to late but glad you made it out thanks for keeping the camera running this time hope you don't have that agian but im worried all the snow we just got could cover up those suck holes
Dang-it! I bet that makes for a lot of suction on the driver's seat too.......crazy to see the conditions you guys need before you can start logging, but in my little bubble here in central Oregon guys can log darn neart year round save a few weeks in spring for break up with the frost and snow coming out of the ground and giving conditions like you had in this video.
Hi Oregon!!!
@@davidhaley7053 hello there Mr. Haley............I know I know that's your dad's official name lol
Did you have good luck with your timbco? As far as breaking down
Just found and subbed your channel. My oh my you guys deserve to earn BIG money!
Thanks Peter!
Holy crap!! I was literally yelling at the phone rooting for you!!!! Poop to that stuff!! Now stay outta there!!!!😳
Thanks for rooting for me and not the swamp!
Really cool video , loved it !
What a shitty winter. We had similar temperatures in the U.P. of Michigan.
You don't have a winch on big John?
I'm surprised it came out that easy!
Good old hydraulics!
WOW! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching 👍
When I am cutting in a swamp the worst thing I can get stuck is my welly. Maybe there are advantages to small scale but man I love your toys.
Hahaha 👍
man you need some big cables and snatch blocks that skidder could easily drag you out with a 4:1 or greater
I've never used them but that would've been cool to try!
I chain wrapped a big 20" birch with 4 boomers each side to the track on a 850 JD cat when that big stick went under I thought I was heading to the moon went straight up till it past center then laid flat again but it`s just like a giant cleat ,But if you can`t get the log out after just cut the hooks God forbid though do what you can without another cat or skidder , I was pulling out a Blowdown of Massive Doug Fir. Gotta be 25 below too right soon as you break that crust the steam comes up and freezes the glass and view LOL.
glad its out bud i,ve had 3 tilt machines in deep had to dig em out ! my kimmy stuck bad now hope i get it 2 morrow or my be lost house flooded etc ! not good !
You'll get it and it won't be that bad when it's over 👍👍👍
Thats a crap mud hole. Few years a go. Big union digging company up here stuck a 365 cat excavator. So deep in mud sink hole. The guys tried with another 365. Get it out by time done they left them both completely over the roof. Brand new machines. Friend mine got pictures. I try get them. And another guy up here dredding boat yard. He on a barge and hoojed something. And tipped brand mb ew cat 345 and barge over in ocean. What a mess
Did you clean that track before you left?...lol
Hey at least you were close to the logging road!
Yes. I planned that.... Lol
Seems if your doing the entire area you need a couple of crane mats to help stay on top , yeah it will slow things and are a pain but sinking the Timco next time in what was that tree 8 feet or more might not be so luck further in to the woods, just a thought. Stay safe
I’ve seen you also have CTL equipment.. is there benefit to using the conventional in black Spruce vs CTL?
We think it's faster to do it this way.
oh boy, you defiantly done goofed right there
at least you got it out with ya own equipment
Oops soft spot wasn't the word. Looks like you guys might of done it once or twice and probably won't be the last either. Looks like your on a great big trampoline the way your bouncing up and down. Keep up the great videos
Love ya work👍
Wow that’s some serious mud! Have you shoved a stick down to see how deep it is before solid ground?
Never mind I shouldn’t have commented before I finished the video lol
Damm. A Budweiser commercial they must have known. You guys. Needed a few after sinking the timco
Hahaha 👍
I wonder how many machines have been lost out in swamps over the years? Do you or your Dad know of any. That would make a good video even if they happened many years ago.
I they did lose one that couldn’t be recovered, I don’t think they called the EPA.
If that happens again try to shove trees under the tracks to get traction. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t
if it would cost nothing, would a ground penetrating radar help with logging in swamps?
Here in Finland, we lost dozers, forest ditch excavators, and also drivers of those machines. Rest in peace. We have here much swamp.
Näinkö on
@@jo9269 Kyllä noita 70 luvulla koneita ja miehiä soihin hävis, yks pillari risunipun kanssa mies meni, kaks suo ojaa kaivanutta konetta sinne kaks kuoli toisesta ei jääny kun kauhan raapimis jäljet. Liian kallis kone pitäs jättää ajoissa kun suo ojia kaivaa. J a suota meillä on enmm'n kun tarpeeksi.
Can you please fill me in on the pros and cons between sawblade and chain. Guess the blade is a bit more rigid,,
Blade is much more forgiving and much less maintenance but more expensive and burns more fuel.
Thanks
Reset the trap for the skidder😁
That's an awesome idea!!!!
My dad way back there was logging one day and came across a well in the woods he put 20 70 foot tall trees in it back to back and we never hit the bottom no telling how deep it was lol
Good vid u ever cut in the hills ? If u do that would be great to see glad u got her out.
I have but not in the winter!
@@davidhaley7053 I am in the hills for green horn it's a little hairy some times!
Quality swamp logging nice video
Thanks Joe!
Man,when you get stuck you don't mess around!
Do it right!!! Lol
It was fun to watch this video again.
That was quite a day in many ways. Happy New Year Walter.
@@davidhaley7053 I hope you have a very Happy New Year as well! Thank you.
Good recovery.
Thank you
Wow you could have buried the whole machine in that ground! When I drive to other areas, I'm always envious of guys that get to work on flat ground. However mountain logging has its benefits you never sink that deep because of rocks and ledge.
You guys have some nice macheanery all never and nice stuff
Been had by a ledge before. You want to go sideways and up, but it just won’t do it, even thought it slid in there just fine :o)
The takeaway? "Doggonit anyway"!
As you know David no matter how many hours of experience you have anything can happen at anytime
That certainly was interesting. Way to keep your cool.
Thank you Tim!
Dag nabitt!!😂😂
Looks like you are out here in Alberta haha
Wow she was in there whew. Then the tree ya James in was no bottom to the swamp
Well at least you got yours out Dale is still working on his.
Good going swamp logger. Bobby Goodson needs you. lol
Hahaha 👍
And Hey ya an ancient lake, A? I bet da Vikings came thru der on der boats about 800 years ago.
If these guys are in MN, i bet the vikings just stayed here :)
Timbco abuse! Lol jk Dave. Those soft swamps can be a huge challenge.
Hey I hear you're headed to one??? See if you can get stuck worse!
@@davidhaley7053 Nope I should be fine in this swamp with my little buncher.
Fond memories pulling machines out of swamps.
oh sure i get kmmy stuck and you just gotta show me up jezzz !!! just kidding bud i feel yer pain, sometimes the cosmos just take a big turd on our heads lol !!!
Love ya work 👍
Thanks Julian!!!
I guess just glad it happened earlier enough in the day to get it out. You could be like stumpjumper.
Sometimes the struggle is real.
i can't believe you got ! amen brother !!!
That could have gone way worse than it did have a great day be safe
Yes it could've!!!
You need some wide tracks on that machine
That would help!
I've seen a chain bigger than that snap , blew threw a windshield and take the bottom of a mans jaw right off ... Just saying ... Maybe install cages on the cabs .
OUCH!!! THAT'S BAD! I was nervous about that and that's why I said u was scared to crawl back in it. It has fairly think lexan.
David Haley
Yup ... and it doesn’t get overlooked ... it’s like if you show up at the hospital with a gun shot wound ... it gets reported , then the law and health and safety investigate ...
Then the shut down and fines ...
Just an FYI this ain’t the 70’s anymore ...
Oh and watch what you put on here ... they watch this too lol
Nothing worse than getting stuck in the mud. Except when the mud is also cold and snowy.
Hey we rolled our 445 eleven wher can we find parts
At the bottom of the hill?
@@davidhaley7053 yhea I ain't finding many places to buy parts from
Dave, Let's go play in the swamp, it's only 38 below and we're stuck, seriously stuck. Just call 911, problem solved. You showed them though, that's a good thing,without any drama.You better buy the crew dinner or else. If you go a little deeper you might find a mastodon or two.
Hahaha 👍
Playin in the snow, lol :)
Hahaha 😂