What's in between Major and Minor chords? | Q+A
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That neutral chord sounds like when you ask your gf where she wants to go out and she shrugs her shoulders and tells you to pick.
pro gamer move is to insist on a choice you know she hates until she makes up her mind
@@andrasfogarasi5014 This works and I hate how true it is
haha lol xd couldn’t be me haha haha
It's like schrodinger's chord lol
@@andrasfogarasi5014 So basically any place that you would normally choose?
Normal Musicians: I wrote this weird progression. Is this a thing?
Jazz Musicians: Not only is that a thing, but we have a name for a it, theory that covers it, and a nickname for it.
hey you calling us not normal
We also named it an innuendo. JaZz
@@daybrink1267 you aren't
@@daybrink1267 Come on man please just play the right notes for one smh
*10 nicknames
The feel of 6:04 to 6:08 is like seeing the most beautiful sunset, then getting abruptly run over by a bus.
Its the Most cursed licc I have heard so far
or a train. Kinda sounds like a train
@@celestix_ yeah I thought the same
I wonder if this is how it feels to be isekai'd
I shouldn't laugh 💀
That D-neutral triad scared away my cat :(
Careful, that can get his video banned from UA-cam.
You have a very clever cat. I cringed when I heard it.
@@leefisher6366 I liked the sound.
my dog started freaking out too lol
sounds like it could make for some really alien sounding songs
Major: Happy
Minor: Sad
Neutral: Angry
...also panic and fear
Sergio Lázaro Martínez oxymoron
Mayor
Did anyone else have a weird kinda subverted expectation thing? Like, when "is it major? *chord*" brain was like "fukno too dark", then "is it minor? *same damned chord*" brain "oh so bright it's like my future *puts on sunglasses at night*"
@@Googahgee txs dude and sorry, in spanish its the same word, and it's pronounced the same way... Fucking false friends 😂
I LITERALLY laughed out loud when you played the d neutral chord at the end of the lick
FKPDI I had to check comments mid vid just to see if anyone had a similar experience lmfao
Yes! I loved it. I love unexpected but related humor.
What minute?
I saw this right as he did it and couldn't help but laugh too
@@darrenbelanger7825
More like 6:04 ?
Re: The fact that a D neutral chord sounds like a car horn: In Europe, ambulances and other sirens are two alternating notes a tritone apart. A tritone on top of a tritone is an octave, a perfect interval. A neutral 3rd on top of a neutral 3rd is a perfect 5th.
IMO he's referring to timbre, not intervals. Mechanical/electric horns tend to contain strong inharmonic partials. That's what makes them sound "harsh" and stand out, thereby grabbing your attention.
@@karawethan Even though, the parallels are interesting.
(And I've read somewhere that most car horns -- maybe just in the United States -- are in the key of F major.)
@@karawethan Technology Connections has a great video about that
even though the sounds of the ambulances in Europe differ from country to country
in Germany it's a 4th
The neutral chord takes me back to our primary school string orchestra. We were very experimental at age 7 lmao
watch out death grips. The 7 year old primary school string orchestra is pulling up 🥶🥶🥶
@@zynel413 you said primary so i assume youre from the UK.
did you guys have the whole ocarina thing?
@@LizordSword nah irish. We just had tin whistles, but when you got to 3rd class you pick another instrument like a concertina or a bodhran. I tried playing the violin but that was hard and I didn't like it so I just picked a bodhran, which is basically just a single drum. It's a very simple instrument to play, I've almost fallen asleep playing it a few times
I'm reminded of the South Park episode where they all recorders 😂
Man, adam making that “repetition legitimizes” joke at every opportunity seems less odd over time. Weird.
That's because it's being legitimized
That, plus this seemed like a shorter, easier to digest joke than the last few. They were pretty long.
haha see what you did there.
@@alejandrocaicedopuj6231 r/thatsthejoke
Man, adam making that “repetition legitimizes” joke at every opportunity seems less odd over time. Weird.
That guy: Is high school music theory enough
Me: You're getting music?
SO TRUE 😭
Stephen Scott lucky for me I go to nocca lmao
That "neutral chord" almost sounded like a massive church bell. It's a bit dissonant but so beautiful in its own way
Glad I'm not the only one who really likes the sound of it!
That neutral sound with micro-tuning is SUPER popular in traditional and even modern middle eastern music. I basically grew up with it lol
Can you link an example
Link an example
@@leethejailer9195 ua-cam.com/video/YCVFkircZUg/v-deo.html
not a song example, but this video shows the difference between Arabic, Persian, and turkish microtunes
What do your people think of the blocky Western "equal temperament" scale?
6:04 - cursed licc
"Things come naturally through many years of practice." I'm going to be quoting this for many years to come.
Been practicing through many years and still can't quote it
So you’ll be able to quote it naturally?
Nothing ever came to me naturally, except for a few songs. I always had to rehearse the hell out of it. Mebbe i was never that talented....
Read: A few songs I " wrote "
Repetition legitimizes
If major chords are "happy" and minor chords are "sad", then neutral chords are "angry"
Passive aggressive
They have no strong feelings one way or another.
and/or T R A I N
@@andyblanton6570 said every centrist ever
@@andyblanton6570 _Wild applause_
It'd be interesting to hear music utilizing a "neutral scale", where the third, sixth, and seventh are tuned in between the major/minor notes.
6?
I'm just waiting for a shitposter to make Megalovania in a neutral key.
Middle Eastern music uses this scale. Its called maquam rast
I would pay to not listen to it.
Look up "Xenharmonic music" and you'll probably find something like that
6:04 When that makes me laugh out loud, I wonder what my sense of humor has become. I do at least know it's ruined lol
frittatasTV you are not alone with that humor, same happened to me 😅
It’s cuz we’re mooooosicians
i'm still laughing because of that
At least not only I am that damaged. The setup was just too perfect.
"Why are you laughing?"
"You wouldn't get it."
hahaha i saw it coming and yet i fucking died when he played the last chord.
"Different theme song for every season" Weebs: Amateurs.
personally I liked the Tom Waits version
Marcel Egal that’s why anime is just better
i'm not saying anime is the peak of music, but japanese studio musicians really deserve some credit. some anime have amazing OST albums, character songs, songs from the show itself(like K-On). there are 12-episode anime with a disproportionally large catalogs of music, that span every genre you can think of. you have to admire how prolific and versatile some of these studio guys are, they are machines.
hi i'm a weeb
@@MrMarci878 a weeb who loves monty python
I was just at a music camp and I convinced one of the composers there to end his piece on a neutral triad, I was laughing so hard after the performance
"You need organs transported overseas...?"
"I know a guy."
That neutral chord sounds like a clock that’s wound down too far trying to chime
That neutral chord sounds exactly like my family's untuned piano when you play anything
I love how aggressively neutral that chord is.
I wonder how those with perfect pitch are affected by the "neutral" note.
I have perfect pitch, and to me it's like the color turquoise. Is it a blue or is it a green?
Well It sounds more like an F than an F-sharp to me, but like a very out of tune one.
@@kalerug that's synesthesia not perfect pitch
@Matt K I agree, it definitely just sounded like a slightly flat F#, couldn’t hear the minor :-)
@@l0serk1d49 Throwing in a six month reply to agree, it just sounds like a flat major chord to me. Definitely can’t feel the minor.
It’s an analogy, because perfect pitch is a sense in the same way not being colour blind is a sense.
You’ve taught me more than any professor I had at Berklee.
So that's why you started making mashups. God bless that professor at Berklee.
You can't just comment here as if you are not a wanted war criminal
im in love with you
it only makes sense that you watch this channel too
Faxes
"If you need organs transported, I've got a guy." Haaaaah
That still has me laughing. Hopefully no one approaches him about kidneys.
To me, the "neutral" chord sounds like a major and minor third played at the same time, but without the acoustic beat that would result from that.
"Teacher, what is between Major and minor chords?"
"We don't play polytonal instruments in my classroom."
Violin, cello, trombone players:
*gulp*
Polytonal? Polytonal just means it can play multiple tones at once, most popular instruments are.
@@achilles872 nah thats polyphonic i think, polytonal is a piece that is in more than one key at once
Tuba players: FUSION!
you mean microtonal?
The neutral chord sounds EXACTLY like a train horn it's scary
That's what I thought!
That would make it a major third as perceived then as that’s what usually they are tuned to
its beautiful! it sounds like morning in the city
@@AtomizedSound A major third, but affected by doppler effect assuming the train is moving. So if the train is coming towards you it would make that third somewhat flat, if going away it would make it somewhat sharp. I'm not sure what pitches a train horn generally is, but I could see a moving train coming towards you getting into the neighborhood of the interval from this video.
I guess horns are designed like that on purpose
Non-jazz musicians: We like to create new stuff.
Jazz musicians: Impossible, since 1968, everything has been tried out.
music ended with the release of Bitches Brew, 1970. There shall never ever be any new music or concepts, as they have all been thought of already.
Sounds like the theortical physicist turned university manager I once talked to.
@@sunfish9341 "The End of Musical History" by Francis Fuckyoumama
P.S.: Since the video referenced Fukuyama... I mean Futurama...
*Tasticles™*
@@sunfish9341 In 12 tone equal temprement, that is.
Not with microtonal music
make microtonal music then
I think the reason the neutral third sounds like a car horn is because it is the same interval as an 11:9 in the harmonic series. If you listen to a train whistle or a car horn, there are very strong 7th and 11th partials present in the sound! This is my best take on it anyway :)))
I tried this on musescore with a bagpipe it sounded like a car horn
The neutral chord is the new “is the glass half full, or half empty”
the glass is half
It's flempty.
3:55 - The D 'neutral' sounds like a train whistle. Some train whistles are also 6th chords :)
4:36
That would be a Nathan K3L. It’s designed to play just a D Minor chord, but Nathan’s early horns always have fucked tuning. The 2 bell is weird. An example of this is in the Round Tag K5HLs where the 1L was supposed to sound a perfect C4, but Nathan Airchime’s a dumbass so it was like a C Quarter-Flat. They fixed it in the Square Tag Late K5HLs though.
I hear a church bell
Mine is approximately a B° (B diminished) Chord, which so happens to be my favorite.
D neutral is like Schrödingers D: both major and minor until it is observed
Schrödingers D ;)
I read this as Schrödinger’s sad face
@@RyanWAFFELYoung hahaha
Haha hahahaha ..
Well, we are observing it, it's neither.
I was wondering What keys these Primus songs are in: “Tommy The Cat,” “Jerry Was A Race car Driver” and “My Name Is mud” It’s obviously very dissonant and spicy. What scales and or modes are they using?
Scale of absurdity, mode of bass god
Most Primus songs aren't in any key and don't use any scale
Watching Adam Neely reminds me simultaneously why I love music and why changed majors from music. I enjoy listening to music and I find it fascinating to learn about music theory (classical music theory and otherwise), BUT I hate playing music (or at least I hate playing the trumpet, theoretically I could try to pick up piano but I think my main problem is that my fingers are just bad and dumb). Playing music almost made me despise it to some degree. It’s better that me and her just know each other casually now.
6:04 I've never laughed this hard in a while, thank you Adam, your musical memes never fail to make me laugh.
Jibster you’ve “never” laughed... “in a while”? Wtf does that mean
“I’m not a ukulele player”
Proceeds to professionally play ukulele*
Duval Geddie if you can on guitar...
That's not playing the ukele like a professional does.
@@uncomfortableshirt3870 well, he's getting paid to play it on a video therefore he is a professional
@@kleinefuchsdavidson11 good answer
That's like being surprised that an artist who professionally draws with a pencil also draws pretty well with a charcoal
My brain just makes that "in-between" chord "major".
I think of it as "wannabe major" because usually when a piano gets out of tune it's in the flat direction.
Mine just screamed “my piano is out of tune! “
you are honestly one of the most impressive working musicians I have never even met.
One interesting thing about Barbershop (and one reason it has *that* sound): no vibrato.
I had "did you seriously not play the lick on the ukulele?" all typed out...
6:08
As soon as I saw the uke, I knew the lick was coming.
@@saulo4302 yeah i know. that's what i meant by my post. i had it all typed out... then he played the lick. ;)
":Are you consciously thinking about every word as you say it?'
Yes. A not insignificant percentage of the time. Yes.
EXCELLENT, as always!!!
Hey adam! I'm a lebanese musician, in our "arabic music" the neutral chord sounds just fine, although we don't focus on harmony, but it exists, because, instead of having 2 main scales (major and minor) we have 8 main scales, including many quarter notes
Lesbian mucisician
I also read lesbian musician
i don't like gay music
@@mcbrodz1663 I shouldn't laugh at this, but I do.
shoutout to fellow Lebanese musicians in here :)
6:04 I had a violent laugh reaction at this, and I don't know why. It's like musical slapstick.
lol me too!!! i laughed so hard :)))
I paused and scrolled down to look for this exact comment :D
@@Jay0neDE Same, I hyperventilated a bit after that part.
ii fucking lost it on this good lord, i had to stop the video
Well, the "neutral" third is a half fifth the same way the tritonus is a half octave.
A regular third, be it big or small, does at least have some approximate harmonic relation to one of the other tones in the triad.
6:46 multiply the loudness by 2 corresponds to an increase of 10db. Decibels follow a logarithmic scale, so in fact you'll have to multiply the energy used (i.e. the quantity of instruments played, all other things being equal) by 10.
"You can't get bullied by bassists when there is no bass!"
- Metallica, around 1988
(sry I thought it would fit in here)
Lmao
You can't be bullied by bassists when everyone is a bassist.
-Meshuggah
But if there's no bassist, wouldn't the lowest sounding instrument become the actual bass? I mean, that's what happens in classical music.
@@BaroqueKeyboardist I suppose you're right. I guess this means James Hetfield is now a bass player.
@@EdBoi18 Also black tounge, glass cloud and emmure
4:23 when you're a minor trying to buy beer and try to convince the seller to just sell it to you
congrats on 1 million!
The neutral chord at the end of the theme at 6:09! Brilliant!
"it sound kinda like a car horn"
Who knew the Vengaboys were such an avant garde act.
Adam: Uploads super fast instagram q+a
Me: *Clicks super fast*
The 24-hour musical sounds crazy but fun! In the game development world we have similar events called Game Jams.
Me: I can play an E Chord on guitar in E standart.
Adam: Shreds saxy solo on ukulele.
Adam: The wire is the best because it had a different intro for each season.
Adam that is called anime.
JJBA: Those are rookie numbers you need to pump those numbers up.
Princess Rainbovvs X Musashi SODA!
No, the wire is the best, because the wire is the fucking best.
Anime is that lazy?
Oh, damn... when he did the neutral chord at the end of the lick, I felt like a speeding train was about to hit me.
You just chilling on a supposed unused train track and then- *holy SHIT*
At 4:40, I use that double stop shape a lot on bass; it does have application. It can induce a feeling of vague worry, alarm, or even hopelessness or sinking sadness; a sensation of something slipping away. In the proper context, it can drag a person down into incredible lows.
6:08 neutral lick absolutely brilliant adam neely is a treasure
Adam Neely is incapable of saying “repetition” only once
Well, well, you couldn't say it's illegitimate, could you, could you?
Adam Quaranteely.
That is all.
Quarantine is separating sick people.
Separating healthy people? That's government.
@@Charles.Wright bruh
Question for your next Q&A:
How would you go around notating a brush kit? Is there a standardized way of doing it?
Hey Adam, potential question for your next q and a.
I had an idea for a different way of looking at neutral chords. Chords are typically stacked thirds, which is how we get major and minor. The neutral third feels a bit misnamed here though as the chord itself is theoretically neutral but sonically really at war with itself. I put forth a sort of neutral chord that sounds neutral rather than is theoretical neutral.
The root, the fourth, and the octave. A suspended chord with no color if you will. When I heard this, it was the closest musically I've ever come to feeling balanced, a sort of sonic neutrality. It didn't need to go anywhere or do anything, and moving this around you can achieve some really interesting pandiatonic melodies. Thoughts? I do know that this cluster of notes might be hard to justify as a chord given traditional understandings of what a chord is and the functions they serve.
"All The Gigs Are Gone" - Sounds kinda bluesy.
Famguy passing a kidney stone
Oh dang. I'd listen to that single.
... and the sky is grey 🎵
@@GreenPlymProduction AND THE SKY IS GREY!
"Think about when you're talking with another person. Are consciously thinking of every word that you're saying?"
*Nervous sweat*
I love the overtone scale! I once made an entire 8-minute song based entirely on it. By the way, I never knew about the flattened 7th in barbershop music - thanks for the enlightenment.
Appreciate your comment on practicing for upcoming gigs. Same for me. Without upcoming gigs, it's difficult to get traction. I'm going to try what you suggested but stay on my main instrument (string bass) because I want to build more technique. When it come to the Parker Omnibook, I took two of the solos and simplified them to be playable on string bass.
The half sharp third reminds me of a baby tritone because it's also exactly in the middle of two tonal markers. In this case, those markers just happen to be a root and a fifth instead of a root and an octave. Music ideas? Half-sharp substitutions, half-sharp blues, etc.
Mini diminished lick, I'd like to hear that on a guitar with some sweep picking techniques just to hear how jarring it would sound.
half-sharp subs are gonna be standard curriculum in 2050
@@aaronfast I dunno, you could always mess with it now and see if you can come up with anything Utilizing it.
Start a new movement of music using it.
Half-sharp substitutions you say? *Jacob Collier intensifies*
Matt's got them big brain Collier plays
Seriously though, that's not a bad idea. You should test that out!
6:08 I said no out loud to this most cursed licc
yep, same
That licc thicc tho
This is a question I've had for a long time and I would love to hear your thoughts in the next Q&A video.
As history and time has progressed, we've always adapted our definition of what we'd call "classic music", "vintage music", "oldies" or "retro". As an example, "Classic Rock" is generally considered today to be a period of Rock and Roll music between 1958 and 1989. (I'm sure there is some debate to be had with the period here, and that is part of the point).
During the 20th century, music recording and preservation had been a slow and specialized process. Vinyl recordings, then 8-tracks, then cassette tapes, and CDs before we finally had early online streaming at the tail end of the millennium. What this meant in the past was that less people had easy access to music productions and methods of distribution. You needed physical instruments, a place to record, a way to capture the sound and most importantly a way to get that music in front of a lot of people. In short, less people had the opportunity or the resources to get their sound out to the ear of the public.
Fast forward to the current century and thanks to the internet, anyone with a laptop and some creative vision can start producing their own music and put it in front of millions of people in a matter of hours.
Right now, the general public (excluding musical niches) still looks back fondly on music of the Beatles or Rolling Stones, which is now 50 years old. As people of the current generation grow older, are we perhaps looking at more current and contemporary artists as "classics" at a faster rate than before? Think about Backstreet Boys, Nirvana or even Coldplay. Earliest albums by these artists, despite only being 20-30 years old are already considered "retro" by some people today. Even some artists and albums that released 10-15 years ago are already being looked at with nostalgia.
Do you think that our technological technological advances of the 21st century has shortened the amount of time that will pass before something is considered "retro" or "classic" music? Are we creating music at a faster rate that will be considered "hits" in the next 20-30 years? Maybe even shortening to 10 or 15 years? Simple math would tell us that having more music in general out in the public eye will statically generate more "hits" than we had before.
Your thoughts?
Hi! great channel, you've given me several light bulb moments about things I'd half understood. would love to hear you break down / explain some of squarepusher's music in terms of chords / harmony... So much going on! Keep up the good work
It's funny, when you asked if the "neutral tone" sounded major I thought it sounded more minor and vice versa. Maybe I'm just a contrarian.
waterguyroks I felt that too!
I feel like that's bc you go Is it major-y? Well... no. Is it minor-y? Well... no
Same
A neutral triad could sound major or minor at different times depending on the context. E.g. if you compare a neutral triad against a supermajor triad then the neutral can feel like minor. Or if you compare it against subminor it can feel major. Music is trippy like that
He only played one version of that chord though, right? It could sound more interesting if another inversion or even stretch chord. If that natural third was in the bass we would feel it different.
Edit - Felt more of a diminished sound to me
11:51 DUDE THATS INSANEINTHERAINMUSIC! No wonder he made a whole auditorium sing the lick in his k.k. cruisin video haha
I learn a lot from your videos. Thanks!
Awesome video fam!
6:09 It increases about 3dB for every player doing the same thing at the same distance to the listener. It happens because even though the acoustic pressure is actually doubled, our ears percieve intensity logarithmically, not in a linear way.
Awesome video as always btw!
Almost, it increases by about 3dB when you go from 1 to 2 players at the same distance to the listener, then when you go from 2 to 4, 4 to 8, etc.
well. it's legit just 10x more instruments, 2x louder, 100x more instruments, 4x louder
@@possible-realities You're right! I should have said ~3dB every time you double the performers at the same distance.
Thanks for the comment. :D
Keep in mind that the question and Adam's answer talk about loudness, not acoustic pressure. Different metrics for different purposes.
"I talked about this in my TedX Talk"
I hope we can all strive to be that humble
Phrygian dominant is a mode of the harmonic minor scale, and it's used all the time in metal and middle eastern music :)
Thank you, Adam. Despite tinkering with music for about 40 years, you have just caused my own Dunning-Kruger moment. I thought I knew a little bit about music.
The "D-Neutral" sounds like a Punch in the nose.
When you played the neutral twice with “major?” and “minor?” it genuinely sounded more major when “major?” was shown and vice versa. Musical priming? 🤔
I had the opposite reaction, and I'm a well known contrarian piece of shit, so that sounds reasonable.
@@0000Sierra117 Fair enough
Hey Adam,
First of most importantly, yes, the Wire is the best series that has ever been no question. For some reason the youtube algorithm decided to send me one of your videos and I just happened to watch it. I've been playing the guitar for years on and off but never got past tabs. Gorging on your videos for the past weeks, even though I understand very little of it, has ignited my motivation to learn the dreaded guitar theory (how chords work, scales, etc) and my guitar playing and knowledge has shot up dramatically so thanks for that.
I've been thinking about that video you posted about not being able to teach as well as you would like to because you can't use copyrighted music in your videos. I might have a work around, you might not be able to play the music but we all have youtube and likely spotify, so together with you transcribing the important parts as a midi, you might do something like "go to this video and listen to the part from 2:33 to 4:21." and we, the audience, could go to that video and listen to that part while you explain what we're hearing. Yeah, it's not an ideal solution but it might work. Personally I'm just really interested in listening to good music while being explained why it's great.
From a fan, keep up the good work.
Magic Sam, the great Chicago bluesman, had a bunch of songs with no thirds in the rhythm guitar or bassline. It’s the lead guitar or vocal that determines the minor/major nature. Very interesting sound.
Neely: "Do you think every word before saying it?"
Neurodivergent people: Yes.
tfw I suck at remembering lyrics because of this
Do you also practice what you're going to say? I do
@@vimtheprotogen2855 I try, but I don't think I do it properly. I've found a couple times that it gets easier in the second session, weeks after the first, but the first session is pretty much always hopeless. I also don't get a lot of opportunities. (I'm always a afraid my grandparents will overhear me screaming my edgy nonsense)
you should learn to think outside of language. you'll realize your thoughts are no longer linear and exist in entirety without having to have them.
Haha, I was thinking the same thing!
Word combinations like “ardent microtonalists” are of the various reasons why I watch this channel. 🙋🏻♂️ @ 4:22
It's hard to use it in your quotidian vernacular, however.
quatricise HAHAHAH nice 😎
@@quatricise i d never heard these words before...
thanks i guess
uh...edit : isnt that reduntant?
@@theali8oras274 adam neely once said this in a video as a synonym for daily speech, i thought that was quite funny
Hey Adam,
Im a pianist, learning jazz, and all your videos helped me very much to learn new ideas. But the fact is that you throw your jazz tips separately in your videos, so here is my question; could you make a synthetic jazz video with a best of of your tricks, your favorites chord combinations, or even with categories of these chords(tension, relax, mysterious, celestial etc whatever)?
That would be really useful
Question for your next Q and A:
When you write a piece for an instrument (which you don't play) in your compositions? How do you do it? Are you able to visualise what would the performer do/feel when they play the piece in the instrument? Should I talk to people who use the instrument more often ? Is there any other way? Also, how hard will it be for a pianist/organist (I'm 21btw) to learn a new (brass/woodwind) instrument to get the feel of the instrument?
Love your vids btw
6:04 spilled my coffee at that one
I took part in a 24 hour comic once, and it was an incredible experience. I heartily recommend doing any creative 24 hour thing.
Subscribed.
This was litt!!
Hey Adam, thanks for all your great content!
Question for your next Q&A: How would you call a "neutral" scale? Like c, d, e half flat, f, g, a half flat, b half flat. And what uses do you think it would have ?
Also, to my ears, a neutral seven chord (1 3 half flat 5 7 half flat) sounds really aerial, I like to use them in ambient compositions to evoke sky, heaven and the like... Especially with a pedal in the bass that clashes with the actual chord (c neutral 7 half flat/d flat for instance).
Adam is getting more chaotic. Just wanna point that out.
Elijah Riggleman quarantine is getting to him
Yeah, but he makes it work.
I'm here for it
Yeah so I'm not the only one who noticed that good
For the doubling of loudness, I can say this: when I was in my speech acoustics class, our professor gave us an example with candles. If you have 1 candle, it has a preceived brightness of X. To get to 2X, you would need 3 of these identical candles burning with identical brightness. To double that 2X brightness (and get to 4X) you would need 8 of those candles. Just remembered this example and decided to post it
Why though
@@loser1234b why what?
Why does it take 3 candles to double x when x = 1 candle
Make me small brain think two candles ought to do the trick
@@loser1234b that's basically how human brain perceives the light. I'm not really a physicist but the idea seems very logical. I would point you to a Vsause video, because I clearly remember that at least one of them explained the principle much more clearly than I just attempted to, but I, unfortunately, don't quite remember the title.
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Adam, I'm in a barbershop quartet and I actually tried tuning our 7ths in Just Intonation when I first joined- it didn't work so well. The tuning was indeed JI, but it didn't sound good within the style. Keeping our 7ths in Equal Temperament has worked so much better.
However, tuning Major 3rds in JI works VERY well for barbershop.
Question for Q+A:
I've met people who CLAIM to be able to tell, just by listening, whether a song is written in F# major or Gb major. It's one thing to have perfect pitch, but deducing the exact enharmonic spelling of the key signature the composer intended... seems farfetched. Is there any truth to this ability? Thanks!
Do they perhaps mean when the piece is played in just intonation? Because that's certainly possible, as the enharmonic pitches reveal their differences in just intonation.
In historic meantone tunings, which would nowadays correspond to 19-TET, 50-TET, 31-TET, and 43-TET, sharps sit lower than flats do, and there is a _big_ difference between F♯ and G♭. In fact, for most of the history of music, being able to distinguish between adjacent sharps and flats, by ear, without any assistance, was a fundamental part of musical training, and people back then knew how to do it without any sort of electronic equipment. Most Western musicians nowadays no longer know how to distinguish between adjacent sharps and flats since they've never heard of any tuning other than 12-TET.
In 12-TET, from my personal experience if the piece tends more towards sharp keys like B, E, or A, or if you modulated from a sharp key, then it's probably in F♯. If the piece tends more towards the flat keys, or if you modulated from a flat key, it's probably G♭.
So that “neutral” triad is vertically symmetrical, like a diminished or augmented triad, isn’t it? Meaning that the interval from D to Fhalf# (7 quarter tones) is the same interval from Fhalf# to A.
So I tried* to play a I-vi-ii-V in all neutral triads to hear how it would sound. To my ear, they all sounded like out of tune minor chords, except the V which still sounded major. Which is weird that the I would sound minor to me in such a common chord progression where it’s major. (*If you’re interested in how I did it, I tuned my guitar’s B string down half way between Bb and B, and just used the D G & B strings to play the triads by barring. I played it in D, so it was frets 7 - 4 - 9 - 2. Who knows if my ear would have heard it differently if they weren’t all parallel 2nd-inversion chords.)
It's a bit like playing on a equal tempered scale with 24 different notes. I could imagine there might be some contexts in which it sounds a bit less wonky, maybe akin to what playing chords built on 4ths sounds like to a western ear.
@@mingnrich Okay, I just tried it with my uke. Same idea, detuned the E string to be roughly half a semitone flat, and played barres on the C, E and G. I too thought the V sounded more major-y than the rest. Weird!
@@mingnrich I would guess it's our desire to hear that V-I movement (bc it's clearly psychological, there's no difference in quality at all)
I recently started learning songs by ear, and it's totally changed my perception of playing music.
Oh man you are such a gem! Watching you play Charlie Parker solo on ukulele gives me life. lol Please don't ever change!