The Post Office is not owned by the Government so why are Management telling employees to sign some ridiculous form that is not covered by The Official Secrets Act.
@@marksykes5434 Frankly, had we not been in the EU yet had a referendum about joining it and Davis had campaigned to do so, I, who voted remain, would have voted to stay out, loathing him as much as I do.
David Davis has been at the forefront of this all along. Lord Arbuthnot, also a Tory, was more high profile but David has waded in for several years unlike most MP’s. So much as his Brexit stance seems a bit suspect, he appears to be a goody over the PO scandal
Where was any member of this government? Reading about it regularly in Private Eye for years and hoping it would all stay buried until they left office. Almost made it too.
Where's our Brexit benifits? You lied to us didn't you? Your not stupid you knew it was daft but you sold it anyway. So please now just be quite and step aside it's too late to try to present yourself as a champion of honest dealing.
The limitation of the official secrets act is not limited to how a politician wants to interpret it in a sound byte. It applies to whatever the official abusing you wants it to until overturned by a judge.
No-one is required to sign the official secrets act. It's an act of Parliament, this means it applies in law to ALL citizens. You do not have to sign an act of Parliament.
@genghisthegreat2034 incorrect. Sorry, we are ALL bound by the official secrets act, you can be prosecuted for breaking it WITHOUT reading or signing it. Same as any act of Parliament.
That shouldn't surprise anybody. Postmasters, like any other government employee are civil servants - although not immediately obviously so. And therefore are party to the OSA
Sub-postmasters are not civil servants and haven't been since, at least, 2001 when Post Office Limited became a public company. In 2013, the Post Office announced that sub-postmasters were not their employees, but self employed contractors. This was done to allow them to refuse to recognise the National Federation of Sub-postmasters as a trade union for collective bargaining purposes. Since 2016 the NFSP stopped charging a membership fee and started taking money from Post Office Limited. Unsurprisingly, come the Horizon scandal the NFSP turned out to be more use to it's paymasters than it's membership. That said, does it surprise me that Post Office Ltd would try to mis-use the OSA to silence sub-postmasters? No it doesn't.
The Post Office is not owned by the Government so why are Management telling employees to sign some ridiculous form that is not covered by The Official Secrets Act.
It is owned by the government
@@duffman9 , yes I was thinking of Postman Pat
A criminal act should negate any contact agreed upon if the party forcing signatures knowingly lied in the first place .
Mr Davis has learned to look serious holding paper.
Vast improvement over smiley photo ops with Michel Barnier.
100s claiming a salary 1 or 2 actually present in the workplace.
Which is a scandal in itself
Where was David Davis before 'Mr Bates and the PO' was broadcast?
He was out there telling us that there would be , “ no downsides to brexit , only considerable upsides from the very start “ !
@@marksykes5434
Frankly, had we not been in the EU yet had a referendum about joining it and Davis had campaigned to do so, I, who voted remain, would have voted to stay out, loathing him as much as I do.
David Davis has been at the forefront of this all along. Lord Arbuthnot, also a Tory, was more high profile but David has waded in for several years unlike most MP’s. So much as his Brexit stance seems a bit suspect, he appears to be a goody over the PO scandal
Where was any member of this government? Reading about it regularly in Private Eye for years and hoping it would all stay buried until they left office. Almost made it too.
Where's our Brexit benifits? You lied to us didn't you? Your not stupid you knew it was daft but you sold it anyway. So please now just be quite and step aside it's too late to try to present yourself as a champion of honest dealing.
Stupid ridiculous comment. This does not have anything to do with Brexit.
The limitation of the official secrets act is not limited to how a politician wants to interpret it in a sound byte. It applies to whatever the official abusing you wants it to until overturned by a judge.
No-one is required to sign the official secrets act. It's an act of Parliament, this means it applies in law to ALL citizens. You do not have to sign an act of Parliament.
You do. It's in the Act.
@genghisthegreat2034 incorrect. Sorry, we are ALL bound by the official secrets act, you can be prosecuted for breaking it WITHOUT reading or signing it. Same as any act of Parliament.
The paragraph above the signature says it applies if sign or not
Always found this man a real bag of shit.
That shouldn't surprise anybody. Postmasters, like any other government employee are civil servants - although not immediately obviously so. And therefore are party to the OSA
Sub-postmasters are not civil servants and haven't been since, at least, 2001 when Post Office Limited became a public company. In 2013, the Post Office announced that sub-postmasters were not their employees, but self employed contractors. This was done to allow them to refuse to recognise the National Federation of Sub-postmasters as a trade union for collective bargaining purposes. Since 2016 the NFSP stopped charging a membership fee and started taking money from Post Office Limited. Unsurprisingly, come the Horizon scandal the NFSP turned out to be more use to it's paymasters than it's membership. That said, does it surprise me that Post Office Ltd would try to mis-use the OSA to silence sub-postmasters? No it doesn't.