What I'm seeing is that the Israeli tanks, for some reason, are being mostly ignored by everyone else. Perhaps whatever is used to calculate who gets attacked first is leaving the Merkavas at bottom.
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The Abrams and merkava have the same gun, stability and weapon systems but the Abrams was designed as a dominating type while the merkava is a defensive type. At a distance the Abrams will almost always win but up close its a toss up. To prove this, DiplexHeated could u pit these two against each other at a distance and up close, please?
+FOertel yes all three have the same gun but I only listed those two cause of the argument saying the merkava is better then the Abrams. Which is false because the Abrams will almost always win at a distance and up close there is no clear way to determine who would win.
+darth vader since both tanks are very good in all regards, fight between Merkava and Abrams will fall down to rather quick of hand and luck more then anything else. on other hand the Merkava have more chance to have its crew alive after getting hit then the abrams
The problem of making these sorts of videos with the Red Rising mod is that unlike RobZ, Red Rising is just a mash up of stuff from different mods and the devs never really putted time into balancing them. It's the reason those Japanese tanks were taken out so quickly every round. They are from Moderna Mod, and were probably balanced with the vehicles in that mod, not the ones used in Red Rising (mostly from UFO Aftermath). Some vehicle stats in that mod are ridiculous. Some Chinese IFV's have 100+ front armour, while BMP-3's and Bradley's have around 30. The ZBD can be taken out by assault rifles... Also, it's a pretty bugged mod. I am pretty sure the detection in that Merkava is quite off. Tanks were clearly hitting it but the shots were going right through. It's probably the reason they recently added the Cold War Mod Merkava tank in the mod.
Guynumber7 Comparing which tanks? M1A1's and T-62's? There has never been combat between modern MBT's, so you can't say that for sure. Whatever the case is, in this mod, it isn't. Most modern MBT's can resist quite a few front hits. Only side and rear are certain kills.
Diplex keep up these great videos. They are original and entertaining, and your commentary makes them even better. This channel really deserves more subs.
I hear the Merkava was build around keeping the crew alive as opposed to destroying enemy tanks which makes sense considering the the type of combat it would engage in most frequently, but i was quite surprised at the outcome vs so many other tanks.
+Thomas Kubik Watch closely. The Merkavas almost never even get shot at, and even at the end, tanks will just drive past them and ignore them. The "experiment" is heavily flawed.
Duplex, you should swap the tanks between positions EVERY round. I think that would be fair and give every machine a fighting chance independently of who they're paired with. Anyway, these arena tank battles are super awesome, nice stuff!
Hey diplex, not gonna lie I love these videos. In my opinion I think it would be awesome if you made like a city style map/one with cover and had the tanks fight. Sort of like how you do with the infantry ones. Just food for thought. Love the videos! Keep em coming!
Irl, Merkavas are all front armor, no rear armor and minimal side armor. Abrams has a little more side armor and the engine, being at the rear, gives it a little back armor. The T-90 is a similar story. I'm not too sure about the other tanks.
wouldnt it be smarter to use a bigger tank arena? like i would be interested in who wins over distance. maybe that would only work with world war two tanks though.
+ZombiePenguin1st The abrams would be invisible, but not able to fire, but would need to be 10% closer than other tanks to fire, but the M1A3, in the future, it another story.
Where the tanks are placed matters. The AI has similar reactions every time. Notice how every one of them turns the turret the same direction to start. Whatever is getting the shot off at the type 90 first every time has a really big gun. The Merkavas are at an angle where nothing actually ends up shooting them.
Merkava Mk.4 is the heaviest tank in the battle I think. Also the gun on the Abrams and Merkava is just an American version of the L/44, basically like the M9 but a cannon.
In Generals The Paladin tank already come with the Laser System you don't have to upgrade it, also it effective against infantry, making it more superior than the Crusader(C&C Generals's Abrams)
don't know if this is effecting the tanks in game, but in RL the placement of the engine in the Merkava tank is in front of the crew compartment rather than behind like standard, providing a greater defense in the front at the expense of the tank's ability to move
Diplex i watched a video of the abrams tank in a demonstration of its armor strength and weaknesses. And it took multiple top down shots on the turrets to fully destroy the tank
Well, they call the Leopard the best because it's cheap, easy to keep combat -ready and highly mobile, especially through water. It's strategically a great tank, not the one with the thickest armor for an 8-way standoff. Insofar not surprising they get knocked out each time when Abrams, Challenger and Merkava are around. Ideally the Leopard would be taking on one tank over long range. And with the A6's L55.
The Leopard 2A6/7 only has good frontal armor. Its side armor is complete garbage. It is overall a good tank, but it does have 1 significant drawback which is most of the ammo stored in the front and not in a safe compartment. Meaning a frontal hull penetration or left side frontal portion penetration WILL detonate the ammo and will destroy the tank. That portion is also highly likely to be hit.
hey i have huge bug in men of war 2: everytime when a tank fires a round it doesnt reload. i got the base defense mod and Robz mod activated. Any help is welcome.. thank you!!
Just going to say that the Type 99 doesn't perform as well in this situation but it is highly mobile and I believe quite cost effective compared to most of the others. As well as that, it has it's grenade launcher which is pretty useful.
It is COMPLETELY accurate! The ABRAMS has been recently outdated in performance, and is the most heavily armored tank in the world, and by far the most expensive, but is still top in speed, and to think their is going to be 1 MORE ABRAMS in 2017! TO BE EVEN MORE HEAVILY ARMORED! And every since you started the arena series I begged for this not to happen with the ABRAMS till 2017 so we can out class everyone in performance AND protection, and Diplex, would you rather have a tank that makes it 20 degrees cooler, or the best protection in the world? The challenger you guys bought from Germany cools down and has the same fire power, and has smoke things to shoot up, while is more agile, other than that it doesn't have anything that the ABRAMS doesn't, and you can see how WWII shaped the world, even to this day, the Americas making more heavily armored tanks to improve safety, while in WWII they just tried to overwhelm the Germans, which worked, but took a lot of casulties just to take down 1 (every 5 shermans built, only kills 1 German heavy tank) and other than the amount of wasted tanks, and about 15000 deaths just in Sherman tanks, it was pretty effective, while Russia, they had a simple tank, which made the T-34 inefficient, but effective against the Germans, they now have a way more complicated T-90, and the Germans had a SUPER complicated and extremely delicate and awesomely designed, if one thing went wrong, the whole tank starts to not work or even function, thats how delicate it is, and now they made it kinda simpler, but not too much, and while they still use the sloped armored they learned from the Russians, and what Sweden, Norway, and that other country learned, well, I have no idea, maby help in global conflicts? Well even is Sweden helped, you guys would of hurt yourself Diplex, Im sorry, but sweden would of needed a far more effective blitzkrieg to seize large amounts of food to continue the war, and they didn't have the best air force, they were more like Poland, and the whole reason blitzkrieg was made, is because Germany wouldn't of lasted long because they didn't have the necessary supplies, which would of been the same thing Sweden would of faced, but wouldn't of been able to carry out the action, thus starving the troops, and/or starving civilians... But Im not saying this to be mean, just to state fact, and to think, I knew all this out of the top of my head thanks to my knowledge of history... and also, you used the wrong group in the star wars episode, it should of been the Republic, because that is their symbol...
You should do 1 on 1 battles of Armored Vehicles. Have a full armored battalion or whatever face off against another. Include APC's, IFV's, stuff like that. Put them on a map and have them face off. I think that would be awesome.
Bro, the Merkava and Leopard 2A are my favs. I just don't like the flat turret shape of the Abrams. The Merkava in my opinion has got the best turret design, No one's ever gonna try and hit it's ammo box, and it's very mobile, just my preference.
Hey Diplex, im kinda new around here, but i love you're vids. But have you or will you make a "Fury" type video. Like the last stand, like in the movie?
Probably because there arent as many sep abrams as the normal m1a2. He said in the beginning that he was using the mbts, he could of put a leopard 2a7 or t-90ms
+JustalocalSoviet there were more than a battlion worth of SEP's that saw action in the first Iraqi war. and most of these mbt's on here have never seen combat. ijs
The mercava is a great tank with some pretty sweet armor but I think the games mechanics have a bug with it bc it deflected about s dozen close range shots without any damage which even great armor shouldn't save completely
Merkavas received the wrong stats. The frontal hull armor is 750mm indeed, but the turret armor boasts over 1,000mm of armor in the front. The rear armor being the weakest, is actually in excess of 200mm. Just google "Merkava rear hatch" and you'll see. And the gun is not an M256. It is an MG253 which is a higher pressure gun that allows firing at higher velocities.
+Robert Whitfield Likely the most accurate gun at extreme ranges and the armour's gonna be nigh on impenetrable! Unfortunately likely to be lacking on penetration though
Robert Whitfield Don't get me wrong man, I loooove the Chally, but from what I've gathered, HESH is not very effective against modern tanks with composite armours and most importantly, modern spall liners. Though it's completely lethal against older generations of MBT's
Robert Whitfield The reason I said the chally might be lacking in the penetration department is because it's a rifled gun. Due to the rifling of the barrel a small volume of gas is lost when firing which theoretically means lower muzzle velocity is achieved, therefore likely leading to lower overall penetration when compared to a smooth-bore.
+Andrei Russel Yeah, thats what sloped armor does, thats what the Nazi's learned when he faced the T-34's when they sent their scientists into the field. While a lot of the nations in the conflict already knew, lol.
and not only that the germans learned that slope armor changes everything when the germans battled againts the t-34s the germans knew it did not have much armor its because of the slope armor that won the tank battles and the only reaSON THE GERMANS managed to get true the russiansdefence because the early war russian t-34s did not have radios
from watching how other tanks fire at those Israeli tanks, it looks like the hitboxes or at least, the areas they otehr tanks attempt to atuomatically fire at them to, is underground slightly behind the tank.
Even the AI is scared to be called as "antisemitic".
Hhahahahaha!
I was literally about to say that.
It surely helps when almost everybody shoots the Asians first and choose not to shoot Merkavas.
That's probably because they don't want to lose their Oil shipments from the east.
Nobody shot at the Markarvas.
Hardly fair to say its better when its not being tested.
It will be anotha sho'ah.
He put the Chinese on the yellow team. #Keemstar
What I'm seeing is that the Israeli tanks, for some reason, are being mostly ignored by everyone else. Perhaps whatever is used to calculate who gets attacked first is leaving the Merkavas at bottom.
It seems like the Japanese are prioritized first. The lowest priority is the Merkavas. Wonder how the AI determine priority targets.
The outcome of this match was quite interesting! I spent a few more minutes investigating the cause of the outcome and found the reason behind it...
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yes modern war today
+Des Its just a great tank
Why don't you use less known countries?
USA and Russia and the others are getting boring.
+DiplexHeated there were actually 200 M-26's in Europe, but I think there were only 50-60 thata got into action
The Abrams and merkava have the same gun, stability and weapon systems but the Abrams was designed as a dominating type while the merkava is a defensive type. At a distance the Abrams will almost always win but up close its a toss up. To prove this, DiplexHeated could u pit these two against each other at a distance and up close, please?
+darth vader in fact the weapon is the same as the Leopards too :D
+FOertel tanks love German tankguns :D
+FOertel yes all three have the same gun but I only listed those two cause of the argument saying the merkava is better then the Abrams.
Which is false because the Abrams will almost always win at a distance and up close there is no clear way to determine who would win.
+darth vader since both tanks are very good in all regards, fight between Merkava and Abrams will fall down to rather quick of hand and luck more then anything else.
on other hand the Merkava have more chance to have its crew alive after getting hit then the abrams
+reefta True, also the Abrams has a better chance of winning the farther apart they are.
I like how the Chinese tanks just randomly have bright red national flags on top of it. Extra patriotic points.
Nobody shot the merkava's until the very end, hardly fair fight when they don't get shot.
They got shot in the beginning, but what bothers me is that even after the main gun was damaged it still kept firing.
100% legit.
Maybe do a 1v1 knock out tournament with randomised match ups
Yes
The problem of making these sorts of videos with the Red Rising mod is that unlike RobZ, Red Rising is just a mash up of stuff from different mods and the devs never really putted time into balancing them. It's the reason those Japanese tanks were taken out so quickly every round. They are from Moderna Mod, and were probably balanced with the vehicles in that mod, not the ones used in Red Rising (mostly from UFO Aftermath). Some vehicle stats in that mod are ridiculous. Some Chinese IFV's have 100+ front armour, while BMP-3's and Bradley's have around 30. The ZBD can be taken out by assault rifles...
Also, it's a pretty bugged mod. I am pretty sure the detection in that Merkava is quite off. Tanks were clearly hitting it but the shots were going right through. It's probably the reason they recently added the Cold War Mod Merkava tank in the mod.
+swatbot2611 To be fair, the type 10 dosent have very heavy armor IRL
+Guynumber7 Still, being taking out instantly like that by front hits from common MBT callibers is just pretty ridiculous.
most tank combat is first shot first hit
Guynumber7 Comparing which tanks? M1A1's and T-62's?
There has never been combat between modern MBT's, so you can't say that for sure.
Whatever the case is, in this mod, it isn't. Most modern MBT's can resist quite a few front hits. Only side and rear are certain kills.
the merkhava barely got shot at
Awesome video, Diplex! Keep up the awesome Arena videos! I just love them so much, they are usually so close and I love that!
By far one of the most creative and best youtube channels out there. I love your videos and cannot wait for another video.
Diplex keep up these great videos. They are original and entertaining, and your commentary makes them even better. This channel really deserves more subs.
I hear the Merkava was build around keeping the crew alive as opposed to destroying enemy tanks which makes sense considering the the type of combat it would engage in most frequently, but i was quite surprised at the outcome vs so many other tanks.
+Thomas Kubik Watch closely. The Merkavas almost never even get shot at, and even at the end, tanks will just drive past them and ignore them. The "experiment" is heavily flawed.
ever since I came across your channel I've been addicted to your videos so keep up the good work diplex
Wow. One of the coolest series yet. More tank videos!!!
COMMAND AND CONQUER GENERALS FTW
amen
Thomas Kington "Green is Good"
+1M0RTAL_CH1CKEN lol GLA FTW
FOR THE GLA
Duplex, you should swap the tanks between positions EVERY round. I think that would be fair and give every machine a fighting chance independently of who they're paired with.
Anyway, these arena tank battles are super awesome, nice stuff!
Hey diplex, not gonna lie I love these videos. In my opinion I think it would be awesome if you made like a city style map/one with cover and had the tanks fight. Sort of like how you do with the infantry ones. Just food for thought. Love the videos! Keep em coming!
You gotta hand t to the Japanese, though. They kept firing while their tank was on fire.
Cornelius McMuffin For the Emperor
diplex, you hav to change around the positions of the tanks
I love ur expanding content. it makes things original, keep up the great work
i love what you do bro keep up the good work and the arenas i really love them
love from New zealand
nice arena battle, really like it, could you make some more post apocalyptic red rising videos, I really enjoyed those !
I liked the way in which you conducted your experiment.
Modern Combat: Arena Ganeplay....
GANEPLAY!!
+William Jacobsson Rough Sunday. I even forgot the main title.
+DiplexHeated True I understand
+William Jacobsson XD
did you purposly write ganeplay if not its spelt gameplay
FOXO THE FOX I think he knows that m8
It would be cool to see the merkava vs abrams in a standard field battle
Does anyone feel like the armor ratings arent correctly balanced in RR mod?
Irl, Merkavas are all front armor, no rear armor and minimal side armor.
Abrams has a little more side armor and the engine, being at the rear, gives it a little back armor.
The T-90 is a similar story.
I'm not too sure about the other tanks.
wouldnt it be smarter to use a bigger tank arena? like i would be interested in who wins over distance. maybe that would only work with world war two tanks though.
+ZombiePenguin1st The abrams would be invisible, but not able to fire, but would need to be 10% closer than other tanks to fire, but the M1A3, in the future, it another story.
DiplexHeated Please stop saying MK when referring to weapons. It stands for mark. Like the Challenger Mark 2.
He mixed it up with MK as Maschienenkanone
the Merkava-IV is designed like it's predecessors, with crew survival as top priority.
the engine is in the front and the armor is Israeli made.
Where the tanks are placed matters. The AI has similar reactions every time. Notice how every one of them turns the turret the same direction to start. Whatever is getting the shot off at the type 90 first every time has a really big gun. The Merkavas are at an angle where nothing actually ends up shooting them.
Love your videos man, wish I could understand the editor like you do
no the Pershing's amror and kv was developed to destroy /combat the tiger what do u think that means
i dont know why you didnt use the type 10 hitomaru
You are the best youtuber, awesome video !
Merkava Mk.4 is the heaviest tank in the battle I think. Also the gun on the Abrams and Merkava is just an American version of the L/44, basically like the M9 but a cannon.
What mod is this? I can't find it anywhere on ModDB.
Red rising
In Generals The Paladin tank already come with the Laser System you don't have to upgrade it, also it effective against infantry, making it more superior than the Crusader(C&C Generals's Abrams)
and the idf are not attacked first
*ahem*
what?
don't know if this is effecting the tanks in game, but in RL the placement of the engine in the Merkava tank is in front of the crew compartment rather than behind like standard, providing a greater defense in the front at the expense of the tank's ability to move
Keep up the good work you make me smile everyday
+FireAndRun Thank you! You made me smile :)
The love is real
todos para uno y uno para todoa
+Estratega Diaz todos*
+DiplexHeated Lawl the Jews, Americans, and Russia won. Very powerful tanks but they all suck anyways
did you put the tanks in a different order each round because that can effect the result dramatically
Diplex i watched a video of the abrams tank in a demonstration of its armor strength and weaknesses. And it took multiple top down shots on the turrets to fully destroy the tank
Well, they call the Leopard the best because it's cheap, easy to keep combat -ready and highly mobile, especially through water.
It's strategically a great tank, not the one with the thickest armor for an 8-way standoff.
Insofar not surprising they get knocked out each time when Abrams, Challenger and Merkava are around.
Ideally the Leopard would be taking on one tank over long range. And with the A6's L55.
The Leopard 2A6/7 only has good frontal armor. Its side armor is complete garbage.
It is overall a good tank, but it does have 1 significant drawback which is most of the ammo stored in the front and not in a safe compartment. Meaning a frontal hull penetration or left side frontal portion penetration WILL detonate the ammo and will destroy the tank.
That portion is also highly likely to be hit.
The IDF Made the Merkava to be able to deflect most calibers and that tank is made to kill everything it faces because of the extreme angles.
Lol I got my type. Thanks for making this clip.
have you considered doing this but like a ladder style arena match where you put 3v3 of two nations and the victor advances to the next round?
If you want a more balance game you can put all tanks on hold, it's unfair if someone show the side or back to other tanks
DiplexHeated how did you get the red rising to work again mine doesnt
to be fair, the Merkavas did incredibly well even when put between two of the strongest tanks in the arena.
I think a tournament bracket would be a better choice instead of a free-for-all arena.
that was pretty damn cool! keep it up!
nice video - i would like to see other vehicles or even infantry squads vs each other
something tells me that the discovery channel didn't take into account that the Leopard hasn't seen combat, and the crew difference.
+Gab Palmones Oh ok. I meant against tanks.
The merkava is good at frontal combat, due to its incredible sloped armour.
That merkhava deflected a side shot from an Abrams thats why it won cause it's armor is too high
Is that Israelian tank the same tank that is in arma 3
yeah
+EternaL GaminG cassu6 yup
hey i have huge bug in men of war 2: everytime when a tank fires a round it doesnt reload. i got the base defense mod and Robz mod activated. Any help is welcome.. thank you!!
Just going to say that the Type 99 doesn't perform as well in this situation but it is highly mobile and I believe quite cost effective compared to most of the others. As well as that, it has it's grenade launcher which is pretty useful.
I like the T-90.
They should try giving the Russians the new T-14 Armata. I think they would preform well.
+SkiddyGaming but the Armata is ugly doh
A Russian soldier Invading Ukraine How so? It is actually a very good looking tank (in my opinion).
+SkiddyGaming It looks cool in the front, but looking at the sides, it would look like looking at a box
Armata is amazing
Havent watched the vid yet but i can tell its gonna be great keep it up bro :D
But in real life merica would woop ever ones booty
+tom west dumb ass
+tom west bruh America would woop your country's ass in an instant. which i'm guessing that your a brit?
+tom west i never said that are tanks would I said that Merica In real life would wool every ones ass Doesn't only mean tank warfare
Love the Abrams, it and the challenger are probably the 2 best tanks in the world
If Only it was a Seven Nation army. (Dum, Dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dumm)
BF 1 hype!!!!
+Dr. Alan Grant why are you hyped for that pos
Dr. Alan Grant That's Fairly Irrelevant.
Thatscottishkid irrelevant? really? this is the song that was in the trailer
Dr. Alan Grant Ah, I've not Seen the Trailer.
Diplex can I ask you a question?
It is COMPLETELY accurate! The ABRAMS has been recently outdated in performance, and is the most heavily armored tank in the world, and by far the most expensive, but is still top in speed, and to think their is going to be 1 MORE ABRAMS in 2017! TO BE EVEN MORE HEAVILY ARMORED! And every since you started the arena series I begged for this not to happen with the ABRAMS till 2017 so we can out class everyone in performance AND protection, and Diplex, would you rather have a tank that makes it 20 degrees cooler, or the best protection in the world? The challenger you guys bought from Germany cools down and has the same fire power, and has smoke things to shoot up, while is more agile, other than that it doesn't have anything that the ABRAMS doesn't, and you can see how WWII shaped the world, even to this day, the Americas making more heavily armored tanks to improve safety, while in WWII they just tried to overwhelm the Germans, which worked, but took a lot of casulties just to take down 1 (every 5 shermans built, only kills 1 German heavy tank) and other than the amount of wasted tanks, and about 15000 deaths just in Sherman tanks, it was pretty effective, while Russia, they had a simple tank, which made the T-34 inefficient, but effective against the Germans, they now have a way more complicated T-90, and the Germans had a SUPER complicated and extremely delicate and awesomely designed, if one thing went wrong, the whole tank starts to not work or even function, thats how delicate it is, and now they made it kinda simpler, but not too much, and while they still use the sloped armored they learned from the Russians, and what Sweden, Norway, and that other country learned, well, I have no idea, maby help in global conflicts? Well even is Sweden helped, you guys would of hurt yourself Diplex, Im sorry, but sweden would of needed a far more effective blitzkrieg to seize large amounts of food to continue the war, and they didn't have the best air force, they were more like Poland, and the whole reason blitzkrieg was made, is because Germany wouldn't of lasted long because they didn't have the necessary supplies, which would of been the same thing Sweden would of faced, but wouldn't of been able to carry out the action, thus starving the troops, and/or starving civilians... But Im not saying this to be mean, just to state fact, and to think, I knew all this out of the top of my head thanks to my knowledge of history... and also, you used the wrong group in the star wars episode, it should of been the Republic, because that is their symbol...
+LayBack Studios Great vid doe!
+LayBack Studios not to mention the Abram's had not really changed for a couple decades
Jabe Born completly true. And just like a lot of America's man weaponry.
I loved it WE NEED MORE PLEASE 😀
You should do 1 on 1 battles of Armored Vehicles. Have a full armored battalion or whatever face off against another. Include APC's, IFV's, stuff like that. Put them on a map and have them face off. I think that would be awesome.
Diplex you should do a three part mini series with red rising, doesn't have to be apocalyptic but just a battle
Gotta get that gane when you play
M1 A2 Abrams tank I thought was gonna survive the best........that thing is beast
Bro, the Merkava and Leopard 2A are my favs. I just don't like the flat turret shape of the Abrams. The Merkava in my opinion has got the best turret design, No one's ever gonna try and hit it's ammo box, and it's very mobile, just my preference.
Why is it that the Leo has this giant obvious shot trap? Are bounces not a thing in modern tanks or what?
I kind of knew the idf was going to win. their tank was built for survivability.
merkava is built for survivorbulity, that's why they do so well
I Like how the Last Russian tank just moving around the map looking for a crew to be killed, Take no Prisoners
+That Person thats actually a merkava. a Israeli Defence Force tank
the last round
+That Person cheyyy ok
Hey Diplex, im kinda new around here, but i love you're vids. But have you or will you make a "Fury" type video. Like the last stand, like in the movie?
Wow, the first round one of the Type 99's didn't even have a chance to fire.
The Leo even has the short barrel gun :D
why didn't you used the M1A2 SEP instead of the M1A2?????
Probably because there arent as many sep abrams as the normal m1a2. He said in the beginning that he was using the mbts, he could of put a leopard 2a7 or t-90ms
+JustalocalSoviet there were more than a battlion worth of SEP's that saw action in the first Iraqi war. and most of these mbt's on here have never seen combat. ijs
Wtf was that leopard doing in the first round? It ignored the merkava and drove infront of it
Why not the Leopard 2A6?
Have you thought of doing a map based off of a battlefield map?
Every tank has to say thank you to the British for inventing the first tanks in 1916.
I think the Merkhava's were both going for japan in the third round 12:25
The mercava is a great tank with some pretty sweet armor but I think the games mechanics have a bug with it bc it deflected about s dozen close range shots without any damage which even great armor shouldn't save completely
Merkavas received the wrong stats. The frontal hull armor is 750mm indeed, but the turret armor boasts over 1,000mm of armor in the front.
The rear armor being the weakest, is actually in excess of 200mm. Just google "Merkava rear hatch" and you'll see.
And the gun is not an M256. It is an MG253 which is a higher pressure gun that allows firing at higher velocities.
Are there T14's in this mod?
what about k2 black panther and north corea p 2002?
Betting on Uk 4-1 Favourite coming in just behind the leopard at 2-1, outsider today will be the US at 20-1 as they use a tank from the 1970s.
+0000Kickass00000 On reviewing the video, odds changed: Asians 30-1, UK 10-1, Russia 15-1, Israel 1.5-1, US 2-1, Leopards 10-1
Nice video but not every MBTs are made for close range battles.
Maybe you should try different 1v1 battles on bigger maps.
good scenario m8 but I have to say that at long range the chally would smash em all up;)
+Robert Whitfield Likely the most accurate gun at extreme ranges and the armour's gonna be nigh on impenetrable! Unfortunately likely to be lacking on penetration though
HESH is more than capable
Robert Whitfield Don't get me wrong man, I loooove the Chally, but from what I've gathered, HESH is not very effective against modern tanks with composite armours and most importantly, modern spall liners. Though it's completely lethal against older generations of MBT's
+Tom Meakin APFSDS i s armor piercing fin stabilizing discarding sabot:) great for piercing the armor of modern MBTs;)
Robert Whitfield The reason I said the chally might be lacking in the penetration department is because it's a rifled gun. Due to the rifling of the barrel a small volume of gas is lost when firing which theoretically means lower muzzle velocity is achieved, therefore likely leading to lower overall penetration when compared to a smooth-bore.
it maybe because of all the sloped armor abd the desert terrain remember it was disienged for that
+Andrei Russel Yeah, thats what sloped armor does, thats what the Nazi's learned when he faced the T-34's when they sent their scientists into the field. While a lot of the nations in the conflict already knew, lol.
true
and not only that the germans learned that slope armor changes everything when the germans battled againts the t-34s the germans knew it did not have much armor its because of the slope armor that won the tank battles and the only reaSON THE GERMANS managed to get true the russiansdefence because the early war russian t-34s did not have radios
and combine the t34s speed and slope armor it was a good tank
Andrei Russel Yeah it was, but if they added more stuff on they wouldn't of lost so many. But it was good.
from watching how other tanks fire at those Israeli tanks, it looks like the hitboxes or at least, the areas they otehr tanks attempt to atuomatically fire at them to, is underground slightly behind the tank.
Would have preferred that the japanese ride in the type 10. It probably still wouldnt survive but it's still a more modern design
You had a chance to make it a 7 Nation army....so close diplex so close
Also you should have a massive tank battle with the modern tanks
For Japanese why didn't you use type 10 Hitomaru
Diplex, play Mud and Blood 2!!! Love this channel