Read My Lips - Bat-May
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Read My Lips is an episode of the first season of Batman: The Animated Series. It is notable for introducing The Ventriloquist and Scarface to the series.
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Forgive me for recycling a reply, but…
One thing that always bothered me about Read My Lips is the ending at Arkham. No matter how “totally submerged” the Scarface personality seemed to be, why did they allow Wesker near anything even *RESEMBLING* a dummy?
Give the guy an easel and some paint brushes for Chrissake!
Not that it was a bad episode. Far from it! I just couldn’t suspend my disbelief enough to ignore Arkham’s negligence.
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Is there any chance we can do this for Superman: The Animated series? Just for fun?
@@Lesley_RedRhody I guess that's a fair point, but to me with how famous Arkham has been with inmates escaping or taking over Arkham, negligence is the first word that comes to mind when describing Arkham.
Would have preferred a Tim Burton’s “Batman and Robin” Fanscription instead.
One of my favorites!
Scarface is one of those Batman villains who's easy to screw up. But I feel he works well when you have a contrast between the gangster personality that the doll has and the meek one that the Ventriloquist displays.
Yes, you have to have sympathy for Ventriloquist. Also it'd be too easy to portray Ventriloquist as too meek and a push over and oh what a twist, he really was in control the whole time and the dummy really is just a dummy.
@@Tadicuslegion78 I like the multiple personality disorder thing they played with here. Especially since Moon Knight also does pretty well with a character that has a dissociative identity. It makes sense while also justifying all of the actions taken.
Richard Jenkins would be good as Arnold.
I especially like that the only real way to stop Scarface is to either
A) give wesker a new puppet.
or B) lobotomize Scarface.
Real scarface rapper scarface or another scarface
Making the Ventriloquist a good ventriloquist was definitely the right decision. It made Scarface way creepier and almost alive at times. Plus the way Batman used his ventriloquism skill to beat him wouldn't have worked nearly as well if the Ventriloquist was bad.
Regardless, calling him Gatman is still funny!
I love this villain I can’t tell if the ventriloquist is mentally unwell or if the dummy is actually alive
It gives a nice mystery to scarface as a villain!
At this point in the comics continuity around the time this episode was made, Arnold was simply suffering D.I.D. The idea of Scarface being alive didn’t happen until several years later in the late 90’s/ early 2000’s
@@thecrtf4953 I personally think scar face is alive and Is forcing the Ventriloquist to be his partner
When I was a kid I thought Scarface was a trully alive entity.
@@magallanesagustin4952 he might just be and is probably manipulated the ventriloquists mind
I always love the mystery of just how much is Wesker's performance, and how much is Scarface himself being alive. In the comics, they explain that the original Scarface puppet got carved out of a tree in Arkham Asylum used for hanging inmates, and maybe Scarface is possessed by the ghost of a dead gangster.
One thing that always bothered me about Read My Lips is the ending at Arkham. No matter how “totally submerged” the Scarface personality seemed to be, why did they allow Wesker near anything even *RESEMBLING* a dummy?
Give the guy an easel and some paint brushes for Chrissake!
Not that it was a bad episode. Far from it! I just couldn’t suspend my disbelief enough to ignore Arkham’s negligence.
@@Lesley_RedRhody Pretty sure negligence is their motto.
@@Lesley_RedRhody Well, it's Arkham Asylum. The place is famous for being more like a hotel and less like a prison for these inmates. Remember that Scarecrow, Harley Quinn and Lock-Up all used to work there.
You could make the case that Arkham is cursed. very possible, considering its origin. Maybe part of the curse is that the staff overtime becomes more deranged or careless, kinda like how Pennywise's presence in IT turned all the adults in Derry into neglectful parents and child abusers.
@@greendemon905 Actually, it was blackgate prison that had those gallows. Eventually lightning destroyed them and they are said to be cursed.
But I think that wood’s curse is that it is a conduit for other peoples emotions and split personalities, but is not himself alive.
Definitely one of my favourites.
And it gets better the more I watch it. It also highlights the fact that the Ventriloquist is such an underused villain when it comes to film and TV.
I think the reason is that aside from being a puppet of an old style mobster, he has no real gimmick or superpower.
Scarecrow can make you hallucinate your greatest fear, Mad Hatter can put you under mind controll, Joker is unpredictable and uses deadly weapons looking like party gag items, Poison Ivy uses weird and deadly plants, Penguin makes use of birds and secret weapons in his umbrella.
But the Ventrilloquist and Scarface, well, they run their crimes like a classic mobster and don't really have any superpowers to make them more dangerous than Falcone or Thorne.
@@wjzav1971 IDK, Two Face falls into that exact category. Actually I think the real reasons we rarely see The Ventriloquist is both the presence of Two Face (since Two Face has a very similar presence what with being of two minds about things and heavy gangster themes) and... well a puppet is pretty silly. Not a lot of authors want to use him. But as an occasional menace he works great.
I love this episode, and Scarface is a great character concept. In the following Batman cartoon, "The Batman," Scarface's appearance would result in him making a giant Scarface mech that would hold the ventriloquist as if HE were a dummy, which is nice for the symbolism of one personality becoming dominant over the other but also feels way over the top. Then again subtlety wasn't exactly the strong suit of that cartoon...
It was good in its own way.
@@SamtheBravesFan yeah. I personally liked the more contemporary gangster design for Scarface. Nothing wrong with the classic thi
Voiced by the great Dan Castanella.
Yea I didn't like that show. Stuff like that was why.
@@DSan-kl2yc The show was never aiming to be like BTAS. It was a more light-hearted take on the mythos, more comparable to your usual 2000s animated action/adventure cartoon.
Scarface and the Ventriloquist are underrated as a Batman villain. If there is a realistic, neo-noir portrayal to the character similar to Batman 2022, then Scarface should take inspiration from Jigsaw and Child's Play.
I'd love to see Arnold Wesker and Scarface in the Matt Reeves universe.
I think he could work in that universe, but not as a big bad. Maybe if he was some sort of criminal informant like how Penguin was?
Regarding your avatar: "I know you! Isn't it your picture in the newspapers? Didn't I see you on the video this morning? Are you not the poor victim of this horrible new technique?!"
This guy's ventriloquist skills borders on the supernatural.
Some of those guys can be pretty damn good, especially with good camera work.
Jeff Dunham is actually the only ventriloquist I know of, but he does make it seem like he's talking to little wooden people. He's good.
To me, the best part about the Batman's ventriloquist is his multiple personality disorder, similar but yet so different than the one Two face has.
I love Scarface. I especially like the later episodes that focus of the Knucklehead Puppeteer trying to break free from his psychological hold.
I always loved The Ventriloquist because most shows really convince me to question if Scarface is truly alive or not. As mentioned, there’s always something supernatural feeling about it, even if you know otherwise. Can’t believe this wasn’t always his portrayal.
That's why supernatural horror and psychological thriller works very well with each other. They both use fear as main object.
Hence why some of Batman villians sometimes seems to be possessed by evil demons and spirits. For example Joker, Two face, scarface, Scarecrow. These guys sometimes seems to supernatural evil spirits controlling them.
I always hated the idea of Scarface the puppet actually being alive. I think it’s far more interesting if the Ventriloquist is a victim of his own mind.
I think batman is at its best when it's unclear whether something is supernatural or there's a rational explanation for it (Catwoman's nine lives in Batman Returns, for example). I've been entertaining the idea of Wesker going into a catatonic state when Scarface is destroyed, leaving the viewer or reader to wonder if the Wesker is really the puppet or if Scarface is.
Fans know he isn't alive. All this speculation about haunted wood and what not is just wishful thinking. I prefer Batman's world be free of the supernatural, but it's too I suppose.
I've Always find Scarface to be the Most Underrated Batman Villains next to the Mad Hatter. He has quite a silly concept but at the same time He manages to be both Really tragic and somehow VERY threatning.
I wish we could see more of Him in Live-Action Batman proyects, He's one apperance in the Series *Gotham* shows that He can be a good and interesting Rival in the Live-Action media.
Considering how Matt Reves Batman focus on Gotham's underworld characters, like Penguin and Falcone, I could see Ventriloquist being introduce in the sequel, to take the villains place as Gotham's big mobster
The only thing missing was Scarface pronouncing the letter ‘b’ like ‘g’, so he would say Gatman instead of Batman
I prefer how they do in the animated series, the "B" as "G" gimmick was always kinda hokey in the comics, and would have spoiled the mystery too soon.
It probably would have been too distracting.
There are sounds that are almost impossible to make without lips, such as anything with the letter B.
Ventriloquists get around this by speaking so quickly that the audience doesn’t register a word mispoken.
Scarface using G instead of B is a reference to this.
It would have been cool to do that in a future episode by introducing Wesker’s other puppet persona’s like Socko, since such a puppet is poorly put together out of desperation and perhaps not using as much skill.
@@tompotter8703 I have to go back to Jeff Dunham skits and check it, I guess.
Scarface and the Ventriloquist are a pair that just gets more unsettling with each appearance in the series. The hold Scarface has on the mind of the Ventriloquist is definitely disturbing, maybe even more so than Two-Face.
I'm surprised they've never had a comic together.
@@fynnthefox9078 if they did it will be so epic two men both controlled by their alter egos and two-faced case he ended up with a split personality because of his double life as a paralegal/DA and then as a gangster the argument could be made that Batman is a split personality from Bruce Wayne
Now, imagine if Scarface liked standard Harvey and the Ventriloquist liked "Big Bad Harv."
+Michael Ryall Well actually it depends, I don't know how much of BTAS you remember,so potential spoilers I guess, but later Harvey Dent actually developed a third personality thats antagonistic to Two-face. So while Scarface and the Ventriloquist relationship is like a wife in an abusive relationship, Harvey Dent (via third personality) actually tries to kill two face...or should I say he is trying to commit suicide??? what ever you know what what I mean.
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I always loved when this series tackled a villain that was the victim of their own insanity. The thing about the ending that I like is that it makes you think...If the medication suppressed his "alternate personality," then which one is the real one? Is Wesker really deciding to carve a new Scarface? Or is Scarface the one in control, creating a new body for himself? Or is it some mixture of the two, trying to separate themselves again? Really a great character, another great example of how this series remade some of the lamer Batman villains into something truly fascinating.
I love it when you can’t tell if Scarface is just a puppet or if there’s more supernatural elements to him
The first time I was introduced to Scarface & Ventriloquist was actually through the episode Catwalk. I didn't understand English at the time and I was 4 so I thought Scarface was actually just a little person with a butler. Batman TAS convinced my dumb brain that Scarface was alive.
Funnily enough, in "Double Talk", Mugsy and Rhino actually hired a little person to dress up as Scarface in order to wake up the Scarface personality from a reformed Wesker.
Hear me out: A Batman movie featuring the Ventriloquist and Mr. Scarface. It's the first time Batman has to really deal with a villain who's psychologically unwell, and deals with the morality of judging someone like Arnold Wesker. Dr. Hugo Strange can make an appearance to give slightly unethical advice, and just for the hell of it, bring in Dr. Harleen Quinzel!
Oh, and Arnold Wesker is probably played by Jeff Dunham. Because it's going to be a dark comedy, get someone you just KNOW is busting to tell some horrible jokes!
Actually, there's an interesting idea: A Fanscription episode which goes over how you'd portray each Batman villain, starring in their own movie. We don't need deep-dives on every concept, just say, "Mr. Freeze was done best this way, I think it could translate to film this way!" amd "The Joker has been done to death already, buuuuut if we had OUR way, he'd look like this!"
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I absolutely loved this ep and Scarface as a character. I think a future The Batman movie would do well to include him as the main big bad, working behind the scenes as the new organized crime boss filling the power vacuum left at the end of the first film!
I can't really imagine Scarface and Wesker as the big bad of a Batman movie. They always work better as supporting villains. Scarface is usually not a big picture villain, but one orchestrates regular capers.
I like how sometimes you can't really tell who's in controls of who, which is more than enough screw with my mind as a kid. easily the most underrated villain from the show.
Just like with Poison Ivy and Mr. Freeze, a C-list villain in the comics becomes elevated to a higher status in animation, thanks to Bruce Timm and his cronies. Another great intro episode.
Do we need more Capone, prohibition and noir gangsters with an artstyle that reminds you of the oldies with Bogart and Cagney (and maybe some Hitchcock too?). Yes we do!
A critique you could make against the show is that it spends very little time fighting organized crime and the mob - usually something common where you have a character like Batman who want to clean up Gotham from corruption. But for some reason Falcone and Maroni were removed and replaced with a boring stand-in - Thorne. Was the topic of the mob too sensitive for DC back then? But finally we are doing it hardboiled! We are getting some well-planned and brutally-orchestrated heists that will shock the broads and give us the femme fatales with short red dresses...or would do, if it wasn´t a kids show.
You get an early prizefighting scene (and some Jazzy music straight from the 20s) setting up this old-school feeling, but because Batmans villains has to be mental (with some exceptions) in some ways, we find out that Wesker is innocent and the doll is completely in charge due to an identity disorder. What a great idea! (And since its a wooden doll, we can see it being shot to bits, mob style - take THAT, censorship! AND be rebuilt for future appearences). My favourite scene is when Batman manipulates Scarface that Wesker is the member of his gang that has been selling them out. You very clearly see the doll and the human as separate individuals (if you doubted before) and there is no doubt in my mind that Scarface would have shot Wesker if Batman hadn´t intervened. He is very much a separate entity.
Scarface is a bit of a cliche tbh, but he is supposed to be and the way he speaks and acts is believeable for someone like Wesker who probably saw the same Grey Ghost movies like Bruce, but associated more with the villains (I also love the Justice League episode where the Justice Lords have lobotomized all villains in Arkham - with the doll lobotomized and Wesker completely unharmed! That is a great scene). In addition, you sort of question how this random gang of Mooks (including Rhino that somehow is so hard to identify despite being something like 250 cm. Yeah, that intro scene with Gordons video tape is pretty dumb and the "detective work" in this episode is quite weak) all look so stereotypical mobmembery, with Ratsy taking the cake. Its honestly both bad and hillarious at the same time and that is a criticism...sort of. The episode doesn´t really take itself that seriously. But its hard to complain if you are a sucker (as I am) for some noir cheese.
What more. Music and artstyle is good as usual. Maybe we need some more trenchcoats and unfiltered cigarettes. But Scarface makes a bigger impression after one episode than Thorne did for an entire season. In addition, I think I would have prefered some more set-up, some historical explanation to Weskers issues (or even better - couldn´t we have seen a longer intro where Scarface´s gang actually completes the robbery instead of that video tape scene), but I can live that he is just a great ventriloquist (I think the studio make the right call changing that part in the comics too) with heavy mental issues. This is close to a 5/5, but I think its small flaws hold it back a little.
Verdict: 4 out of 5 bats
When I first heard that TMS animated a bunch of these Episodes, it made me want a crossover special between Batman TAS & Lupin the Third part 2
Another villain who should appear in Th Batman movie. 😁
Richard Jenkins would be good as him.
It would've been even cooler if Wesker has more alternate personalities than Scarface. I'm not sure if the comics did this, but imagine him controlling different dummies everyday.
They gave that treatment in the New Batman Adventures to a different character. (Don't want to spoil it in case you haven't seen it yet.)
One episode of The Batman involved trying to 'fix' Wesker by giving him another dummy that he could channel his good impulses through, but sadly that dummy sacrificed itself to thwart Scarface's plans. Plans that would, ironically, have killed Wesker too.
Scarface is such a cool character and to Batman. A rogue that isn't exactly a person but the personification of the Ventriloquist. I also love how Scarface is threatening to his goons
This is such a great episode! I really want to see Scarface/Ventriloquist in the Matt Reeves sequel
I love Scarface! he's one of my all time favorite Batman villains!!!
A villain who sounds ridiculous on paper with poor combat ability (admittedly not as big a problem for a Batman villain as others), but very disturbing the more you think about him. I did a re-listen to all the BTAS villain songs and I think I enjoyed Ventriloquist/Scarface's New York jazz number the most. Yes, even more than the Joker and Penguin's songs.
Ah yes. This episode. I like how The Ventriloquist and Scarface are handled here and how the plot played out.
The ventriloquist is an underrated Batman villain
Ventriloquist. Easily one of my all time top favourite DC Villains. He’s just so unique. While this is personally not my favourite depiction of the character it is still an excellent one. I would truly like to see him in an upcoming film or series. Perhaps the Penguin HBO Series.
He appeared in the last season of Gotham and was actually pretty good.
@@herbion6117 I know. But he immediately died.
@@godofevil9468 to be fair he appeared in a good number of episodes, we simply didn't knew it was him until his final episode.
@@herbion6117 Mr Penn. working for the Pen-guin.
Who was always holding a Pen. Hahahaa
Dude, it’s like Donna Beneviento and Angie as DC villains! Also, I couldn’t help noticing the Ventriloquist’s name is Wesker…
The ventriloquist is one my favorite Batman villains, mostly due to his design. Having an uninterested frown and glasses that obscure his eyes gives him a creepy vibe especially when Scarface is on screen.
Yes I love it this show
Great video and great episode
But could you please review this fan film batman a broken promise its amazing
Love Scarface 👍🏼
It’s kinda weird to say but my first introduction to this character was actually on The Batman cartoon from 2004 rather than BTAS
The 2003 show was my first Batman show I watched
I'd kinda like to see Scarface taken seriously in a film one day. Seems simple enough. Start off with a mysteriously well-coordinated series of crimes like this episode, keep the boss's identity obscured until a big reveal shot. Maybe they bring in some small-time thug to "meet the boss" but he starts laughing when he sees Wesker holding a gangster doll. Everyone tries to shut him up but he keeps mocking them until Scarface points his machine gun at him and it actually fires. Scarface then leans forward, ominously asks if anyone else wants to yuck it up, and everyone quickly declines.
That would be cool although there could be some moments of humor when he and Batman meet for the first time. It would be hilarious if the whole film was Batman trying to track down this "new mobster" and when he finally does, he comes face to face with Scarface and sees is just a guy with doll, Batman expression could be something like "WTF? Are you kidding me?"
@@alexandrefrauches132 oh of course. The concept is inherently silly, so even at his most serious, there's going to be some underlying humor. Need a good director to balance the silly with the scary though. There's also the sadness of how Wesker is completely overshadowed by his other personality. I think putting some focus on his mental illness would go a long way to making Scarface/Wesker a serious villain.
@@ramirezthesilvite That would be a interesting concept and Arnold being overshadow by Scarface could be justify as his expression of self-hate. Scarface abuse Arnold and treats him like crap because that's how the poor man sees himself and Scarface as the type of person he wish he could be, strong, tought and intimidating.
That makes for a good scene, but I can see Bats whacking the dummy aside and holding Wesker up by the throat. Some characters only work on paper or in cartoons.
I love this episode. It's a great way to introduced a underrated members of Batman Rogues Galley (at the times) into media and since then Arnold and Scarface have shown up in several other Batman related media (except for movies) since. Ventriloquist and Scarface are one of my favorite Bat-Rouges and this is clearly theirs bestest episode of the series.
"Alright, Yous mugs!" Scarface's whole schtick, (complete with a cute lil' tommy gun), really fits this "gangster era" of Batman more than any other version, which might be why it's been so hard to update him for modern times. Ventriloquism itself seems more like an old-timey form of entertainment, than something popular today. Anyway, I love this episode, and particularly love how the multiple personality thing had Batman shook. (He even startles a bit in one scene when the doll opens its eyes). Arnold Wesker is one of the great villain character studies because of the question of who is the real personality. As for the callback to Zatara, it was nice, but still a little random, since we never, ever see Batman use this voice-throwing ability again, lol.
What I've noticed that I didn't before in these BTAS in these rewatches, is actually how often the henchmen are their own characters, too. From the freckled twins Two-Face hired, to Joker's gang, they always tend to feel distinct, and sometimes even get great one-liners of their own. I love Rhino"s tender "Thanks, Boss" after being told he was too dumb to be the traitor.
Thing is the "gangster era" is still in progress for Gothamites and it's "1992" for them. Mask of the Phantasm takes places during the early 80's and all criminals are operating like it's Prohibition Era. I've always admired Batman's anachronistically removed time period.
The New Batman Adventures episode where Ventriloquist is 'cured' was absolutely fantastic.
It's like Child's Play meets Magic of the 1970's film. Freaky....Scarface is freaky to almost feel sorry for Arnold Wesker, almost.
Oh, is it may already. It feels like just last month we just finished Batman. Also, is it just me or does anybody remember seeing this Batman episode? Is this a completely different ventriloquist episode? Because I think I remember them going over this very very specific episode near the end of last bat may. Or did they have to reupload this? I swear recently there have been some videos uploaded to this channel that I remember seeing. But yet nobody acts like it had to be re-uploaded. Is this a reupload? Can somebody confirm or deny for me if this is a reload cuz I really remember watching this Batman episode last year. It seems to keep happening with me where I swear to God I've seen the video on this channel already but everybody's acting like it's a brand new video. Strange.
Possibly my favorite Batman villain , so many levels to his character. I relate to the ventriloquist so much it’s scary, we all have that separate personality we turn into I feel when our backs are against the wall or when we feel powerful etc. The outlet for our darker impulses we keep tucked away in our subconscious.
What happened to May 2nd video?
The Ventriloquist and Scarface. Such an odd concept made such a great episode. And we'd see Scarface again in the episode "Lockup".
Oddly, the only anime I know TMS Entertainment produced are the different iterations of Lupin III.
Terrific episode! I love The exciting mystery about the new gang and even though I know some people don’t like it I kind of love Batman’s tattoo scanner. I like when he uses obscure gadgets like that. Has a lot of funny moments too. Truly a terrific episode!
Honestly, it's funny it's never explained how Wesker came into contact with Scarface in this show or the following one considering the comics mentioned the latter was built from a cursed tree at Blackgate where inmates would occasionally be hung and originally belonged to a hardened criminal before he manipulated the former into murdering him. He's like a sentient One Ring of sorts. There's even a bit on The Batman which revealed Scareface was once part of Wesker's standup acts that ended up being cancelled. Honestly, it was for the best. Obscuring their origin helped create an unpredictable aura around them.
These Bat-May's sure come round fast, only feels like yesterday since the last batch.
Read my lips; more Bat May
Scarface: "Read my lips and comes to grips with reality, boys!"
I like the animation detail with the Ventriloquist's glasses making it look like he doesn't have any eyes, while the dummy's eyes look expressive and alive.
What about yesterday's Bat May? I thought they were going to cover the Baby Doll episode?
I enjoy all your commentaries. Will there be more episodes? I only see two. You bring insight into all the subjects you cover
Cool to learn that Earl Boen is in this - I should have realised from how much Rhino sounds like LeChuck from the Monkey Island games.
Multiple personalities in one mind? Is it midnight yet!?
Jk great vid.
I’ll say it again, the Ventriloquist and Scarface are the most underrated Batman rouge. George Dzundza gives one of the best vocal performances in the show, which is saying a lot. I like to think I can do a good Ventriloquist/Scarface voice even if my Scarface kind of sounds like Danny Devito in the video I made.
I’ve wanted this episode reviewed since Bat-May Year One, The Ventriloquist and Scarface is my favorite Batman villain! Thanks so much for finally reviewing this episode Walter!
Question. What do you think about Moon Knight? It’s an psychological thriller of mystery. I consider it a series that’s flawless in a major majority
This episode was amazing first watching it. I really do love this villain and wished he showed up more in modern movies and shows.
My favorite episode! :D it's so good! Very underrated.
The Ventriloquist is one of my favorite off beat Batman villains. I just love the gimmick so much and this show did it perfectly.
Just another incredible episode of Bat-May
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Very good video and BTAS was a great series.
Then in A New World in Arkham, Scarface got lobotomized but Wesker isn't...clever
It's a shame we never saw it in the Arkham games.
this Episode is like a Hitchcock Movie!
Love when you do these Walter love bat may
Wooooo! Bat-May!
Thank you for the video.
This is what makes me glad to finally have the whole series on DVD after years of searching
To me, the best depiction of the Ventriloquist/Mr Scarface is in The Batman. The guy has a couple dedicated episodes and, man, does he steal the show !
Also, the doll might just be actually alive, as in a comic, a sorceress comments that there was SO much evil projected into it, it pretty much corrupts whoever holds it...
The comics had a second Ventriloquist take ownership of the Scarface dummy... or rather it took ownership of *her*, so much that she got a wooden replacement eye. Very creepy.
What happened yesterday ?
Where can I listen to that jazz version of the Batman theme? 2:30
Always wanted to believe Scarface was his own being. Whether it was the way the character was believable or George Zunzo's incredible voice acting!!!
Funny how no one just plain yank that Dummy off his hands, Scarface is nothing without Arnold.
I didn't like the revamp they gave Scarface for the "new" episodes. Looked way too simple, and the unibrow was awful. But that episode did have one of his best lines. "When the muscle starts thinkin' it's the brains, it's time to amputate."
One thing interesting about Ventriloquist and Scarface is some interpretations have to to where you can't tell if Scarface is actually alive or not which gives him a more paranormal vibe.
Scarface is my favorite Batman villain ever and maybe it's because I love psychological thriller/horror but I love Arnold Wesker and his relationship with Scarface. Is he real? Or is he a figment of Albert's mind? Only sadly, poor Albert will only know. I would LOVE to see Albert and Scareface on the big screen but I know he'd be over shadowed by Joker, two face, and Mr. Freeze. But, I'd love to see it happen
Walter there are still plenty of wave. Like this pumpkin can you pass 2020 Batman Beyond Batman Brave and the Bold and all Batman animated movies this is the way list tradition 10 continue and if Batman must end in 2023 what better way to send it off then died trying to get an interview with Kevin himself
Arkham orderly: “That’s very good work there. Also, I see you have a scalpel in your woodcarving kit. I’m fine with that.”
I honestly would love to see Arnold get the Joker treatment for a live-action movie. Maybe take some inspiration from the Twilight Zone or even the 1978 movie, Magic.
In the comics the Ventriloquist also comes back from the dead with a Black Lantern ring. And whats the first thing he does? Make a light-construct Scarface. Also ironic that as a corpse, he doesn't have lips anymore.
Quick question: Are they releasing bat every other day this time? I ask because I think they're missing a few days
They're only covering 16 episodes this year, so every other day.
@@twixxbar07 ...why?
On a slightly unrelated note, did you know that George Dzundza played one of the first cops on Law & Order? He played Sgt. Max Greevey in the first season. He quit because he wanted to spend time with his family and the constant trip from LA to NY was tiresome. In the second season premiere a stuntman stood in for his character's last scene.
The animators have acknowledged they loved writing Scarface issues because he’s a wooden puppet. You can dodge all kinds of violence censorship when your target is inanimate
As a kid with a prolific fear of creepy dolls and dummies, this episode actually freaked me out more than a bit when I first saw it. But hey, the fact that Scarface even has *Batman* looking a little freaked out a few times during this one made me feel a tad better. What really sells it is even *he* doesn't seem quite sure what to make of this villain at first: *is* he really just a dummy being manipulated by a brilliant ventriloquist, or something more supernatural? And the beauty is, even once they give us a reasonable non-supernatural explanation, you're still not *quite* sure. This villain concept could have so easily gone wrong, but as usual BTAS somehow manages to strike that perfect balance, lending Scarface just enough uncanniness to feel eerie and otherworldly, but not so much that it takes away from the comparatively grounded feel the series had early on, before Batman crossed over into the wider DC-verse filled with aliens and magic and stuff.
So a couple things I want to go into with this episode...
First of all, while it still would have been classified as Multiple Personality Disorder when this episode first aired it was reclassified Dissociative Identity Disorder a year later. There are some inaccuracies in the episode I'd like to address.
The disorder can only be caused by childhood trauma and develops as a defense mechanism in order to protect the child. We never really find out exactly how this character developed the disorder in the first place but the idea of turning Scarface and the Ventriloquist against each other, while a rather funny sight gag, is something that I don't think could actually happen.
There's also the major issue with always portraying the disorder as villains which I always mentioned with Two-Face.
The biggest issue is the gimmick of using the puppet at all... While it is possible for alters to be co-conscious like that it's generally pretty rare and I've never heard of anyone channeling their alters through a dummy before. That's something I'm willing to overlook though cause despite being largely inaccurate it's still a really interesting character and a pretty well written character.
With that out of the way lets actually go over the parts I liked in the episode. For a large chunk of the episode they don't actually mention the disorder at all and it almost feels as though the dummy might actually be alive some how. Magic is a thing that actually exists within the context of this animated universe so it's not all together out of the realm of possibly when there are also immortal characters like Ras Al Ghoul running around. I really like that it's not clear weather or not the dummy is actually alive or if it's just all in the Ventriloquist's head. I kind of wish it had never been established what was really going on and left open to interpretation.
Anyway... I would really love to see this character appear in live action portrayed by Jeff Dunham and Walter... look them up and tell me they wouldn't make the perfect live action Arnold Wesker and Scarface.
I could honestly see a movie version of this kind of character. think about it: a meek man who was pushed around for he's love of Ventriloquizing is pushed mentally till he's talents creates a multiple disorder and creates Scarface, a ruthless gangster who bosses even he's meek handler till the man is the new puppet, showing the true psychological breakdown when a person is at rock bottom that they depend on that "person" for everything, even if that person is the inner mind of that same person brought to life. It's actually sad if you dissect what is happening to Arnold.
And here I thought Wesker was only a resident evil name, now that I think about it, Could Batman beat Albert Wesker?
I'm really glad that both Wesker and Scarface were voiced by the same person. It would have been really easy to get another voice actor, but that would have felt like cheating.
So if you take away the dummy, Wesker is fine. I like the character(s) but he's so easily defeated. Chucky is harder to deal with!
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Man!
You kinda feel sorry for the ventriloquist in this episode!