The machine in this video is the one I took delivery of. I used to use two Ultimate Sorters and now I'm using the one sorter and I have cut my sorting time of a raw bucket of range brass from about 2 hours down to 30 minutes. A raw bucket of range brass has steel & aluminum casings that need to be removed, 22LR/short that needs to be removed, as well as dirt and debris. Gene's sorter takes care of 98% + of the 22 casings for me (a lot less picking out by hand as the Ultimate Sorter only got about 20%), as well as the quirky 5.7x28mm and being able to put two 5-gallon buckets of brass in the hopper and walk away to process the buckets already run through the machine allows me to do two tasks at once which really saves time. The Ultimate Sorter had to be baby-sat and fed one scoop out of a bucket every few minutes. Final processing of the casings already run through the machine is now very easy as .223/5.56 and .380 are in one bucket and simply separating long vs short casings is much easier than pulling .223/5.56 out of 38, 357, 40, 10mm, and 357SIG ... and then having to run 9mm & smaller through another Ultimate Sorter plate to get the 9mm, 380, and then smaller separated. Similar process for all other calibers. Hint: You'll still need a table to pour out the sorted casings on to remove the steel (get a magnet from Home Depot or Lowes used for picking up nails from job sites) and aluminum (no way around having to do this by hand), the rare 22LR/short casings, and of course the "riders" - smaller cases in larger cases. Simply put, if you are in need of processing large quantities of brass (I process about 80 gallons - or sixteen 5-gallon buckets - per week on average off of my range), getting one of these machines is well worth the money. In my case, scrap metal value alone will pay for his machine in one month, and I make more selling to my reloading customers. Buddy Lichty Owner - Shooters Indoor Range & Gun Shop, Augusta GA
This is a fantastic machine and Gene is super professional. We researched several roll sorters before purchasing this version and we're very happy with the decision.
A suggestion I would make is to incorporate a magnet system into this machine so that you can separate steel cased ammo. Whether it was on the track itself, or incorporated into the hopper system that would separate it altogether from the brass. If you wanted you could even build a secondary track system from the same hopper that separates the steel ammunition the same identical way it does the brass. Very impressive machine though :)
+Mr. Biggz I have thought of that, but haven't tried to work out how. In my experience, if you put anything in the way of the vibratory flow, the cases will jam. Some type of rotating pick might work. Thanks for the comment. Gene
+zz6j2b what about if you had the inside parts of the steel sleeves that the casings fall into be magnetic but have there be a belt system on top of the magnets going the same speed and towards the end of the track and at the end of the track have the last few inches be non magnetic with the belt going over that as well so that once the steel casings reach the non magnetic part they will fall into a bucket. did that make sense? lol
Mr. Biggz I did solve the removing the steel cases with a separate machine, which also removes dirt and 22lrs. Here is a link to the video ua-cam.com/video/5N68rAJHuiA/v-deo.html
hey i was just watching how awsome your machine turned out to be, regarding that i also wanted to talk to you about it, i work at the chilean army, and i was wondering if we could talk a bit about your machine since i work on an area that count tons of cases daily but as you know we dont actually have the budget the us army has. awsome machine and i hope we can talk soon!
Mike, The sorter sorts by diameter with the rollers diverging from top to bottom, so the 22lrs fall through the rollers first and into the first bin/bucket. Larger diameter cases slide down the rollers until they fall through the rollers. They all fall through the rollers according to their diameter.
George, Embedded cases are the bane of sorting brass. With my machine, if the embedded case fall on the rollers neck down, they do often separate. If they are stuck together with dirt or debris they will not separate. My trommel/steel remover also helps, but in my experience, there is no automated way of separating all embedded cases.
The machine in this video is the one I took delivery of.
I used to use two Ultimate Sorters and now I'm using the one sorter and I have cut my sorting time of a raw bucket of range brass from about 2 hours down to 30 minutes. A raw bucket of range brass has steel & aluminum casings that need to be removed, 22LR/short that needs to be removed, as well as dirt and debris. Gene's sorter takes care of 98% + of the 22 casings for me (a lot less picking out by hand as the Ultimate Sorter only got about 20%), as well as the quirky 5.7x28mm and being able to put two 5-gallon buckets of brass in the hopper and walk away to process the buckets already run through the machine allows me to do two tasks at once which really saves time. The Ultimate Sorter had to be baby-sat and fed one scoop out of a bucket every few minutes. Final processing of the casings already run through the machine is now very easy as .223/5.56 and .380 are in one bucket and simply separating long vs short casings is much easier than pulling .223/5.56 out of 38, 357, 40, 10mm, and 357SIG ... and then having to run 9mm & smaller through another Ultimate Sorter plate to get the 9mm, 380, and then smaller separated. Similar process for all other calibers.
Hint: You'll still need a table to pour out the sorted casings on to remove the steel (get a magnet from Home Depot or Lowes used for picking up nails from job sites) and aluminum (no way around having to do this by hand), the rare 22LR/short casings, and of course the "riders" - smaller cases in larger cases.
Simply put, if you are in need of processing large quantities of brass (I process about 80 gallons - or sixteen 5-gallon buckets - per week on average off of my range), getting one of these machines is well worth the money. In my case, scrap metal value alone will pay for his machine in one month, and I make more selling to my reloading customers.
Buddy Lichty
Owner - Shooters Indoor Range & Gun Shop, Augusta GA
+does the brass need to be clean before hand
Chris,
No it does not. In fact I put a vacuum attachment on the ramp to help collect dust as the cases travel down the ramp prior to sorting.
This is a fantastic machine and Gene is super professional. We researched several roll sorters before purchasing this version and we're very happy with the decision.
I could watch this all day. I think we need a 2020 4K60p version lol
Very innovative! Keep on Brassing!
I bet your neighbors love you. Lol.
A suggestion I would make is to incorporate a magnet system into this machine so that you can separate steel cased ammo. Whether it was on the track itself, or incorporated into the hopper system that would separate it altogether from the brass. If you wanted you could even build a secondary track system from the same hopper that separates the steel ammunition the same identical way it does the brass. Very impressive machine though :)
+Mr. Biggz
I have thought of that, but haven't tried to work out how. In my experience, if you put anything in the way of the vibratory flow, the cases will jam. Some type of rotating pick might work.
Thanks for the comment.
Gene
+zz6j2b what about if you had the inside parts of the steel sleeves that the casings fall into be magnetic but have there be a belt system on top of the magnets going the same speed and towards the end of the track and at the end of the track have the last few inches be non magnetic with the belt going over that as well so that once the steel casings reach the non magnetic part they will fall into a bucket. did that make sense? lol
Mr. Biggz
I did solve the removing the steel cases with a separate machine, which also removes dirt and 22lrs.
Here is a link to the video
ua-cam.com/video/5N68rAJHuiA/v-deo.html
What if the 3amp fuse keeps blowing? Controller won't adjust the roller speed!
Drop me an email at gene3441@gmail.com and I will provide you with my phone number so we can talk through your issue.
hey i was just watching how awsome your machine turned out to be, regarding that i also wanted to talk to you about it, i work at the chilean army, and i was wondering if we could talk a bit about your machine since i work on an area that count tons of cases daily but as you know we dont actually have the budget the us army has. awsome machine and i hope we can talk soon!
Drop me an email at gene3441@gmail.com and we can exchange phone numbers.
sent an email regarding these units - awesome machine!
how much is this ?
Drop me an email at gene3441@gmail.com and I will send you detailed information and pricingRegards,Gene
how to smaller cases say 22 not fall into larger caliber slots?
Mike,
The sorter sorts by diameter with the rollers diverging from top to bottom, so the 22lrs fall through the rollers first and into the first bin/bucket. Larger diameter cases slide down the rollers until they fall through the rollers. They all fall through the rollers according to their diameter.
Is this only sorting pistol or does it do pistol and rifle brass.
Either or both. It i fully adjustable so you can set it up to sort any cases that are distinguishable by diameter.
thanks
Hi Gene, in which rpm area, do the roller sorter works? best regards Per
Are you making a sorter?
The rpm depends on many design factors
Email me if you have questions
Gene
@@GSMachines Thanks, I will do that. Best regards Per
what do you get for one of these? $$
send me any email at gene3441@gmail.com and I will send you the information.
Now we all know who is stealing everyone's brass during the shooting competition.
What is the make and model of this product?
It is my own design. I do occasionally make them for people. If you want more information, send me an email at gene3441@gmail.com.
Pretty cool, but why won't you disclose the cost for one?
I would be happy to let you know how much one cost. Just drop me an email at gene3441@gmail.com.
How much
Send me an email at gene3441@gmail.com, and I will be happy to send you more information and pricing.
Does this machine separate stacked cases (9 inside 40 inside 45 etc)?
George, Embedded cases are the bane of sorting brass. With my machine, if the embedded case fall on the rollers neck down, they do often separate. If they are stuck together with dirt or debris they will not separate. My trommel/steel remover also helps, but in my experience, there is no automated way of separating all embedded cases.
email sent
That's pretty neat. How do you pick up your brass? We sell ammo picker uppers at 855sheller.com.
I have not had to pick it up. I buy it from a range or a recycler in buckets.
Regards,.
Gene