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If nothing changes.....nothing changes.
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Corey, the defense was abysmal on third down. That’s not good, and they don’t get kudos for that.
Lot of changes need to be made, offense and defense. But, until there is a change in the OL coach, nothing else will matter. Changing the OL coach is not sufficient, but it is a necessary condition to fixing the program.
I would fire him now! He’s not earning his money..
I want to see a lot more passes to Landen Thomas and Amaree Williams. They should become a staple. Need to get more to all those underclassmen WRs too. Free Dem Youngins!
No power five offense should never look like this.
Considering what Luke was dealing with on the o-line, I thought he did phenomenal. The pocket collapsed often, and he ran and got yardage. When he had a little time, he had good throws.
I don’t know why the coaches took Luke out the kid showed some promise. FSU coaches are terrible and it will be hard to recruit anyone
. Recruiting !!!!! I'd worry about not losing The 1 5 star to the U or an SEC Power
@@WilliamBrightman-dn8de You do realize that’s part of recruiting and makes your comment stupid. FSU is losing recruits and definitely not getting 5 stars coming to Tally with coaches that can’t develop players.
Luke is too quick to give up and run. He's not a play maker.😊
That dont even make sense he's a baller@@arnoldabramson9383
Who's barking at norvell?It's his fault,his responsibility,his design,his team,his horrific play calling etc etc
But yall wanted him, though. Yall were happy when he got that 10 YEAR contract. I told yall he was trash from jump😂
As a Canes fan, I thought your players played great on defense. The gameplan was clearly to not lose by too much. It worked. Canes passing game was the worst it's been all year (though the running game was very good).
Thanks,I thought the same. At least it wasn’t a complete blowout.
I’m not sure why people are still mad at this point. I consider it a victory
@@douglastuten5340Losing by 22 is considered a victory now sad time in tally😂😂😂
Teams have to choose. Either Miami throws it all over the field or they run it.
Miami is very overrated only time watching them this year when they play a team that's equal or with a better roster there going to get their ass beat
@@milt9530 well first off that's inaccurate, but even if it was, that wouldn't happen until maybe the semifinal of the playoffs so we can live with that.
FIRE MIKE! 🔥
Preseason #10 in the nation. Now 132nd out of 133rd in the nation in scoring against mostly terrible defenses. Can any offensive coach keep his job?
Norvell shouldn’t keep his job. This clown - from losing to J-State to Travis Hunter - is just that …. A clown
It's because our oline tbh they doesnt give QB time at all to throw a proper ball to the receiver nd then our run defense are the main problem
UTEP would beat FSU.
People have asked when players will quit.... n save fdu has reached that point
@@hangarby10Uw o Oshkosh wou l d vest fsu
70 years we did something tonight that no team has done in 70 years the evaluation of these players and the development by this coaching staff is something none of us have ever seen to go from conference champs to the worst offense in the nation is crazy
Thanks!
Agree with Corey . Defense played good enough to win . Our offense just can't help or take pressure off of our defense .
Defense got ran over FSU fans are special
I liked Norvell and was one of his biggest supporters. Not any more. THIS is simply beyond reason. I know numerous highschool football teams who look better coached. They finish this season with what 2 wins AT BEST? And if Charleston Southern can score 3 touchdowns they can forget that win also. Im 48 years old and ive watched the Noles since 1984. This is a disgrace. I want answers....real answers. Not coach speak. There is NO excuse for any FSU team to only win one game in a season of play while still in the ACC
100% agree, I do recall a red flag on Norvell 3 years ago against LSU a pitch play at the 1 yard line. And then hilariously he called it again at the 1 last night and it actually worked. I’m so confused with how bad the penalties, effort and mental discipline of the entire team. Talent is not that bad it’s the coaching that is just dragging the team down.
@@CLM2424-o8e Players suck too along with the coaches. 20 dropped passes leads the nation. The players play like they got hammered the night before the game. Norvell is just awful and doesn't learn from his mistakes.
So, here is the thing, I want answers as well. But, he clearly does not give a rip about the public. He cannot be so deep in coach speak that he thinks this is working. He has a department that monitors the media, and I assume fills him in. He does not owe me anything. Like you a fan since high school. This team is poorly coached, this team on its own lacks any pride or even selfish desire to show out and make it to the NFL. It is lost, and the more often he speaks in front of a microphone the less I am likely to maintain my donation.
If I'm not mistaken they mentioned a stat on the broadcast that the last time there was a situation similar to this where a team had a great year followed by being one of the worst in the country and it was 70+ years ago. It's not just a disgrace. It's a historic disgrace. And no perhaps he doesn't owe me personally an explanation. However he owes this program an explanation. He owes a legacy and a reputation an explanation. I'm also not saying that this is all his fault cuz I think there COULD be a scenario where last year going undefeated and not getting the invite followed by the bowl loss broke something in the psych of this team. Perhaps they don't even think it matters anymore as long as they're in this conference. After all of 13-0 wasn't good enuff what would be? My point however is I want real answers. Not even answers but what are the real problems that need to be addressed. At this point if he could be handed an unlimited budget and resources would he know what to do with them to correct this. Was it leaning too heavily on the portal? Lack of development? How were not only this staffs evaluation but the evaluations of Nick Saban and many NFL scouts sooo far off the mark? There are soo many things that need to be asked and answers!!!
That's exactly how I feel. How do you go 10-3 and 13-1 the last two years and then 1-7? Too much portal and lousy recruiting? I know there is a huge buyout. I still think they are going to find a way to get rid of Norvell. Bowden gets better and better w time.
Luke is the guy. He showed guts and confidence.
Wow so many upset people. Did we not all expect this loss am I missing something? We knew this was a guaranteed loss. On to the next one.
Yeah, on to the next LOSS.
4real portal oline big good ones and nothing else
Facts!
Plus, the system allowed the Canes to make the 21 point spread, too.
I hope to hell that Luke doesn’t transfer. We need to get him an O-line that will keep him in Tally.
Would you stay? I mean, he can go to Iowa, or Minnesota, and not be beat up so badly.
It was still the 3rd quarter, Miami up 20-7, and you have the chance to kick a 50 yd fg (which Fitzpatrick can make) to make it 20-10. But Norvell is going for it on 4th and 4 with a freshman QB on the road....why???!!! Take the pts and give this team some hope, instead of looking inept and giving Miami more confidence!!
That's why Mike doesn't need to be coaching at FLORIDA STATE and to be honest he has been doing that since he's been there
The Hell with Brock and Luke right now Try Trevor Jackson and incorporate qb runs, some passes and wildcat! Let him play and see what happens
These white folks don't want a African American QB at FSU that's why you never hear them pushing for him to play
FIRE SOMEBODY!!!!
I bet you get fired first
FSU played Miami much better than the Gators did. Stay healthy and good luck closing out the season boys!
UF is a much better team right now than when they played scUM.
@@theocratickingdom30Sure they are lol. Set yourself up for that beat down as well
UF is gonna embarrass us as well
@@RyanSmith-fb8rf I fully expect UF to lose the next 4 games. 2 of those we'll get blown out. We do have a chance against Ole Miss.
@@daytonaguy3584 I don't think we are good enough to do that.
Can't wait to see the new playbook and OC
It’s all about The U
Much props to both of you continuing to put these out every week and suffering through these atrocities for our behalf
It’s house cleaning time.
Luke has pocket presence. Just keep him in the game. Give him the reps. He knows how to move in the pocket.
Go Canes! 🙌
(Cane fan here) I was worried FSU was trying to bait Cam to press but he didn't. He picked a team win over his individual accolades today. Plus, this is the first conference win that Miami would have won without him which I need to see more of. By the way, College Gameday didn't even bother picking this game. I believe this was the first time they overlooked this game. Sad days.
They did talk about this game
It’s time for the glory days to return to this rivalry
Positive: 1. Miami didn't get their get back for that 45-3 loss they've been talking about. 2. Taking shots for every touchdown we got didn't lead to blacking out.3. Wildcat made an appearance! 4. Future looks good with a lot of the young guys. 5. A screen actually did something! Negatives: 1. There's a new presnap penalty we focus on getting every game. 2. We can't stop a 3rd and anything to save our lives. Conclusion: A lot of coaching changes need to happen. Including an actual OC because W...T...F? 4 plays to score from the what? 2? Passing on 3rd and 4 and 4th and 4.
Lmfaooooooo
36-14 is a blow out Miami won and got get back what were you watching
@Rod-h9f 36-14=22. 45-3=42. Blow out, sure. Get back? Neh. Mmmm, believe i watched the same game as everybody else 🤔 take that energy elsewhere.
@@officialys ok 1-7 enjoy your day
@@officialysMiami blew fsu out the a yr or 2 before that but I guess fsu fans forgot about that.. and since when is losing by 20+ is not a blowout? Especially to your biggest rival
Same analysis week after week after week, you get my point! Just say they suck and move on to next week!
These are the same people who said this was a good football team. And they said they should be trusted because they don't just take the coaches word for things. That they are actually at practice and giving a real assessment
As a fan, I want heads rolling. Bring me Atkin’s head- as a start. And Norvell should be absolutely ashamed of himself.
Actually, the defense deserves no praise, either. Miami was 8 for 14 on 3rd downs, many of them 3rd and long. Miami was also 3 for 3 on 4th downs. That's 11 of 17 when the defense needed to get off the field. Fact is, we stank out loud again. And Luke Kromenhoek, who played only half the game, as the leading rusher with more rushing yards than the rest of the offense put together? Cripes.
Then there are takeaways. We now have a total of 4 in 8 games, and none in the past three games.
All you have to do is watch any individual player.
Running out of position, easily blocked, can get a runner on the ground etc
TRASH
The run defense especially up the gut was absolutely atrocious The reason why our secondary looked good is because Kenmore didn't have to throw the ball they ran it up the throat of us and controlled the clock the entire game That's the headline of this I can't believe no one's talking about it
I know there's no such thing as a good loss but at least there are some positives to take from this defeat. Mainly, for once the offense didn't look completely clueless, and the defense kept pressure on Miami almost all game long.
Y’all scored 14 points.. 7 of those during trash time..there’s no moral victories in rivalries kid
#9 for FSU needs MORE PLAYING TIME on Defense. Periodt
Some coaches should be fired for lack of development. But, you have to have excellent replacements ready to come onboard who can recruit & develop. Miami’s linebackers coach is an FSU alum. We should bring him home. He’s good & has a heart for FSU. Julian Armella should be playing on the O line but somehow hasn’t been developed. Just crazy.
Kentucky is 3-5 and they are at rock bottom……1-7? This is just laughable at this point.
Florida State is rebuilding. I don’t even know why they were in the top 10.
@@ChrisCarterFXno reason this should have been a rebuild. Texas lost 10 players to NFL last season and they aren’t rebuilding. This is his 5th season and we are rebuilding again WTF
You right they play in the SEC😂😂😂😂 and beat Ole Miss
My opinion is Mike has a once in a lifetime opportunity here he is literally the best coach in college football and the worst coach in college football at the same time. He can literally let it all hang out right now in college football and it would be acceptable next season, so I hope he takes advantage of this
I’m all for changing stuff but the few recruits we haven’t already lost, are claiming they’re still coming because of the coaching staff!
Go Canes!
This is complete BS!!!! Players giving minimal effort and still being allowed on the field….against MIAMI of all teams…I’m done with this trash.
Yeah, when they lost to Memphis. I was like yeah this team is cooked.
Just curious, which players are you talking about?
@@Blake-x1yit’s easier to point out those who are trying.
Special teams
QBs
D line for 1 half
Young DBs, LBs, Secondary
Jakhai
LT
You should have been done
BYE!
We need a Real OC!!!!
Amaree williams need to become a WR not a TE best hands on the offense both williams and landen Thomas both need to start the next four games a true youth movement also need a new staff on both sides of the ball that can recruit top players and develop them build a foundation
The defense showed up when it was needed. Football is a crazy game.
How is the OC still employed? Worst in the nation scoring offense. Oklahoma already fired their OC.
Because Mike Norvell calls the flipping plays
😂. Very true. Wish he could fire himself.
Our OC doesn’t call plays nor is it his offense. Our head coach installed the offensive plays and call them
@@estilienlouis1 so he’s not responsible for anything?
@@willn851 yes… our sorry ass OL… I do agree that our OC/oline coach needs to go… but just understand that it’s not his scheme…. It’s Norvell’s scheme and he’s not adjusting his playing to point that it’s complementary to the players… a change of scheme is what we need so just get rid of the entire coaching staff but we all know that’s not going to happen and Norvell want give up play calling… we will suck for a minute 🤦🏽♂️
Gotta keep Little on the field
I think we found a QB. We have to keep Kromenhoek on the team not only for his ability as a player, but for what he means to the roster. He leaves, so does the whole class of 2024. Nice to see him out there playing hard and having good moments.
How he emegred on that 4th and 1 is beyond me?🤷♂️
Patrick Payton is the biggest loafer I've ever seen. Kid got paid and said Eff it
Clean house on the OL! Those upperclassmen suck! Smith, Byers, washigton, and Scott NEED TO GO!
Miami didn't even really try hard and still crushed the Noles. Ooof.
The day after this miserable season ends, FSU needs to fire all the assistant coaches and 90% of the players. Do what Deion did when he took over at Colorado and bring in about 100 guys (either high school seniors or transfers) and start completely over.
“‘15 Peach Bowl! We don’t even forget” 😂
I still have confidence in Mike. There has been improvement on both sides of the ball. He is building for next year in a really terrible circumstance. I remember last year and know that there will be another one sooner than later.
You might be a little confused.
Ever since UGA whooped that @$$ FSU has never been the same.
We need a portal Qb. They need more seasons to develop. He needs to fire some staff and go heavy in the portal and spend some of mikes own money on players $$
They got a portal QB..DJ, which I'm still baffled as to why Mike brought him in. It was easy to see what he didn't do at Clemson.
So smug in the off-season. Ira talking about how Cam missed out by not jumping at the chance to play for FSU. This is pure gold.😂
Cam for Heisman. We back.
Been a Noles fan since 1990. Never thought I'd ever watch a player at FSU give up on plays. Not to mention MULTIPLE PLAYERS!!! Play the kids who will give 100% effort atp, regardless of their talent level. MN should be forced to replace 99% of the staff & given 1 more season to turn it around. THIS IS FN FSU. Embarrassing.
Fire the FSU president, AD, and board members for giving Norvell an 8-year contract. Just plain dumb.
Norvell is great
Miami fan here. I thought the Canes would hang a 50 burger on the Noles.
Can we just say that this is too big of a challenge for Norvell? That maybe his nonsense about 1% better and whatever else, that works in high school. But, this is FSU. This is an all time great program that comes with actual expectations. Bowden finished in the top 5 how many years in a row? We are not Rutgers. We do not have facilities like Illinois. We do not have boosters like Syracuse. This is FSU, and maybe Coach Norvell is not up to the challenge. Because maybe he just isn't. So, the first two years COVID and Taggart fallout. Then, the good years. But, were they? I mean one year is sort of based on the portal with Johnny, Keon, the defense. Yes, the maturity of Jordan Travis. But, also maybe the escapability of Jordan Travis. Sure, Norvell OR SOMEONE talked Keon and the others into coming. And Travis grew into himself, and become confident enough to show his ability, the ability of a QB running for his life and stil making it happen. But now what? The OL simply does not know what the OL should be doing. and we were sold a bill of goods that it was last years guys come back even better. Well, if they are, and Norvell sees 1% improvement in them each day, well, its bunk. Now, lets talk about the next thing. We lose to Notre Dame on world wide television. We lose to North Carolina. We beat who ever we have coming before Florida. And we lose to Florida on World Wide television. All the while, I gaurantee that Norvell talks his 1% nonsense, he likes seeing the fight that the guys put in, they are really standing and fighting for each other. Well, none of that matters, and to be fair, none of that appears true. It appears that Norvell is lying to the public. Look at last weeks pick six. Zero effort to stop that, and the guy is still on the team. Hey, its true, the world is a giant complex place when you are running a program as big and as well known as FSU. I could not do it. But, to be fair, Norvell appears to be unable to do it on his own either. Without Keon, Johnny, and the other transfer talent, nothing is happening. Tell me how many people are on the recruiting staff? What is it they go out and sell to five stars? Can you imagine being Brady Smigels parents now? That kid should reopen his recruiting. What can this staff say to Elijah Haven? When will we hear from Warner Peacock or Phillip Troyer? Those dudes write giant checks. How do you recruit anyone? I mean, we are the Minnesota Golden Gophers, a middling team for the future.
His only hope is to give up play calling like you said this program might be to big for him to handle it all
If this too big a job for Norvell,Why? Did your AD give him a raise and extend him until 2031.
All time program my ass y’all are frauds
FSU who do y’all think you are y’all are not a football school
@@sybilwarren9025 we are Florida State
Time for Lane Kniffen.. .
I didn’t think we could look even worse but I was wrong! Why did Norvell think that DJU was the answer at QB?! The other 2 QBs have played better in just the few times they have played!! So that decision to bring in DJU is on Norvell!! Having said that the recruiting will be the key moving forward, you can’t rely so heavily on the portal which is what Norvell has done! I’m so hoping that the new football only facility will bring in better players for whomever is the head coach at FSU be it Norvell or someone else!
Corey the defense is bad lol 3rd and fuller
This has to go down as the biggest demise of a program in college sports history. This coach is a bozo.
Miami didn't have break a sweat
This team ain't beating Charleston Southern.
The final drive and touchdown was during garbage time. Most of Miami's defensive starters were not playing. The backups were playing.
Enjoy your sunday because the canes run Saturdays
Win the ACC first then claim Saturdays
I don’t understand why Corey hates Luke so much. He looks really talented for a true freshman with a terrible team around him.
What hate is there he's said good things about him all the time
Is it me, or should Holmes get more carriers. Tom Lang was high on him preseason & so was I. This season has been odd.
With the defense plate OK. This is not a Florida state defense. Let’s not just lower our expectations. We need an attacking defense. Old school, Florida State caliber defense. Adam Fuller is not it.
I normally like you guys but this is complete BS! This team and entire coaching staff needs to go and you guys are try to down-play that! ‘Little gains here and there’s doesnt cut it at FSU!!! Hold this guy to the same standard we held Willie! We fired Willie in the middle of a season in which his team went to a bowl game! But now we are talking ‘little gains’ on the way to 2-10!!!!! STHU!!!!
The AD needs to be fired along with coaches
Nah Michael Alford is trying to navigate this mess and it ain't easy im sure but you better believe something will be done
Embrace the portal. Our only hope going forward. High school recruiting can fill this talent gap hole. 5 or 6 new offensive linemen, a couple actual play making wide receivers, 2 linebackers and a couple of defensive linemen and we are good to go. Our merry band of mercenaries
Changes need to be made on offense. The OL play is pathetic. Play calling as well. It doesn’t matter who is at QB. They have no time. Receivers can’t catch. The defense is not to blame much. Have various blitz packages. I feel bad for coach Surtain
At the end of the season, Norvell should bound those three "quarterbacks" hand and foot, sneak down to Wakulla County, put them on a boat, then push them out into the Gulf.
This whole team is a circus. Period.
The ncaa playoff committee needs to be fired
I said it over and over and over the past month and a half. All the fans wanted Brock. I kept saying Brock sucks. Hes not good. I said Luke is the guy. He is the future of this program. Abd sure enough here we are. Luke is clearly the guy.
What we need to do is not let him transfer. Because thats coming. A good portion of our talented young core is going to leave
Corey….what else do you want the defense to do??????
They scored EVERY POSSESSION but 1.
Dude have your standards completely fallen off a cliff???
I'm with you these guys cuddle Norvell and this incompetent staff
That defense was not that good at all Fuller is trash 🗑️
Mike is to Damm nice and lost same ole press conference every wk
If we had an offense we'd have flipped some of the L's to Ws.
Atkins, FULLER, Shannon and Yray must be fired at end of season and competent coaches that can RECRUIT are an absolute must!!
First team in 70 years to go undefeated in regular season and 1-7 the next season. That says it all. Anyone have 63 million to buy out Norvell 😄 What job in America can you suck at, get fired and walk away with 63 million?
These two called Duke a terrible team after Duke whipped the Noles. Noles are awful and all three of Noles QBs are bad.
No their not stop lying
Only team in FBS that hasn’t scored more than 21 points in a game. 🤦🏽♂️
Multiple teams have fired coordinators mid season - OK, Coastal Carolina have both fired they're OC. Norvell needs to do the same? Fire someone tomorrow!!!
teams don't have to play offense very much to beat this team they fear no one on the offensive side so just take field goals and keep bleeding the clock
Why not try Trevor Jackson at this point
@robertfleischer-g8f very true
The game plan was clear. Do not get embarrassed. Playing 2 high safeties all night they wanted to stop the pass. You left the run game wide open.
Defensive line still needs to stop the run
Go Gators 🐊😅
Georgia is going to whoop that lizard ass. Go Noles
Our less than average defense exposed Miami's O-line. They'll be eliminated in the the first round of the invitational when they play a ranked team. It would be awesome if it's Oregon that does it.
Miami still needs depth, we're still one or two recruiting classes away. I knew we'd easily beat FSU when last year the only difference was you had a 6th yesr QB and we had a true freshman.
As a Florida fan the evil part of me is laughing but damn he has over a 60 million buyout?! Everyone has down years but wow this team is an utter disaster. That’s rough
3 out of 5 years has been loosing seasons under this coaching staff
At this point how are people still getting upset
Players didn’t give up. They literally scored a late TD. The problem is coaching staff made seriously unreal and should be fired for kind of assessments on the offensive side of the ball.
Lol the FSU media is the only big time school media that wants fans to have a glimmer of hope during a 1-7 season lol.
If a team scores 14 points it’s over
Gee, who would have thought if you can’t run block, and you can’t pass block, you can’t win games? Yet, there’s a large number of fans who want to blame Fuller, and the defense. I’ll say it until he gets FIRED. Atkins has to go! Fire him now, and go get the best PROVEN Big Time offensive Coordinator, and let him pick his Offensive Line Coach, and the rest of his offensive staff. Let him run the offense and play calling. Norvell needs to focus on recruiting.
Our center can not snap… geez…
Ain't no hope you need a new coach