My son was told he was a sociopath..and that he would be a killer one day for he showed no guilt for anything he has done. But we as parents know that all people have a chance to change how they are. And i sometimes felt it was hopeless, but i love my son so much i kept praying to the lord for help to turn him around , and i always talked to him with love and patience. And now he is thirty five. And has nearly lost his life twice, and realized the only ones that cared for him we i and his mother. And he started looking i to the church . And has been completely different. God has answered my prayers.
I'm an engineer. He's got his idea of closed loop and open loop systems analogy wrong. In engineering it's the closed loop systems that are more powerful and desirable because they take the outputs of a system and feed it back to correct for anomalous behavior. Feedback is an amazing, almost magical thing in its power. If the church is a closed loop systems give me the church anyday.
It's a particularly good analogy because a feedback loop is what gives you reference. The output on a phase locked loop must be fed back and compared to the reference frequency in order to make the necessary changes. With a subjective moral standard, you have no reference, which means that there is no way to know where you are or where you need to be.
That has nothing to do with Bill’s point which is echo chambers are bad. And the church not allowing outside info to its believers is how we get stagnant backwards systems. Like the church fighting against the civil rights and women’s suffrage movements. Because bigoted leaders tell them everything to believe. It’s information control.
@@kuriju88 If we determine what should be moral and what shouldn't be moral, then we can determine to change it at any point. And, if we can change it, then it means nothing. If we say now that school shootings are bad and evil, but sometime in the future we decide that they aren't, then what are they? Are they bad and evil, or are they not? If we decide later that they're good, then are they good now? See how that works? If morality is subjective and we just make it up, then it means nothing. Atheists have NOTHING. Their values are based on NOTHING. We came from NOTHING. And, when you die, you go into NOTHING. Wow. What a beautiful worldview to live by. 🙄
@@harmonillustration Yes, according to kuriju88, slavery only became immoral in the South in 1865, at the end of the civil war. Sending Jews to concentration camps was moral in Germany until 1945. My guess is that not even kuriju88 really believes this, but that is what their argument is supporting.
Bill was in my ward for a while. Smart guy who started out with a powerful testimony of the book of Mormon. Pains me to see him as an atheist. I learned some things from him when he was active, but we started debating about things like blacks and the priesthood, (my point being that a change there was always left open whereas changes to things like gay marriage were not) and the spirit left and it became wholly intellectual and I determined the debate was not constructive.
Yeah, it's sad. His podcast was actually a huge help to me years ago when I was going through my own dark night of the soul. I kept listening after my testimony got stronger, and I could see where he began to slowly deviate until he finally became the very thing he was trying to speak out against.
Trying to listen and just can’t anymore. Reels is hopeless and I just can’t stomach how he reasons. Sorry, just not interested in his take on anything to be honest. Signing off now. Keep the good work going Jacob. You have much more patience than I do. Just got tired of Reels and RFM that I dealt with a few years ago. Waste of time then and especially now.
Please ignore my unsernsme. Today, I stood up in seminary and advocated for proper communication and spiritual honesty because I was inspired by your content. This kind of change towards real commitment must from the bottom, in ourselves, not the prophet. And the apostles know that
When he says that there’s no such thing as objective truth that is laughable because the very fact that subjectivity exists means objectivity also exists.
The science on the mental health issues of sociopath, psychopath, and narcissism all have a genetic component. That being said, all of these mental health situations are also impacted by the environment that they are raised in. Trauma, neglect, and abuse are all factors in how their mental health issues present themselves. Mental health is a very complicated issue that most people don't understand. You can put two children with the same genetic traits in the same environment and have two completely different outcomes. This in many respects has to do with how they process their environment. Mental health disorders are in many respects a lot like alcoholism. You can be genetically predisposed to becoming an alcoholic. In some cases the trauma and abuse in the environment can be so traumatic that the person loses all sense of reason and control. We can impact what happens to many people for good or bad.
Or be redeemed by the Atonement of Jesus Christ as Dr.David Wood was in prison for trying to kill his father and diagnosed as a sociopath. You should get to know his story!
He's wrong about not being able to question the church. I've sent letters with concerns about the temple, word of wisdom policy etc. nobody is kicking me out. I have learned that I can disagree as long as I'm not disagreeable and not violating policy. The leaders of the church are good people with good intentions. They want to get it right and they know they're not perfect. The church is true and it's miraculous how it's getting better with time and how the Lord is with us through our mistakes.
Has your letters done any good? Has any change been implemented? The church doesn’t change unless an outside influence forces it’s hand, which takes people like Bill Reel to get excommunicated.
This is going to read as sarcastic, but I’m being genuine here, and being genuine on the internet sounds sarcastic. 😂 I’m glad that you’re engaging with Bill and giving him a platform. I’m a free speech enthusiast. I think everyone with bad ideas should be given a megaphone so that everyone can see how dumb their ideas are. So, kudos. This is akin to the “Libs of TikTok” account where all they do is let people talk and then we all see how dumb their ideas are. Let them bury themselves.
The presence of objective morality is one of the strongest arguments for theism. Hard for us atheists to argue around it. Bill did pretty well but it’s a difficult thing to argue
You may personally think the argument is stronger, but it isn’t the case for philosophers in the west, most of whom are atheists, and most of whom are moral realists (Bourget, Chalmers: “2020 PhilPapers Survey”). I think Bill was out of his depth here, as his strengths lie elsewhere. If the average atheist read meta-ethical literature, they’d be equipped to deal with conversations like these fine, but most atheists aren’t being thoughtful or careful enough in constructing their world-views.
Two points. 1. I don't think morality is objective, is it? Some things probably are, but if youur debating subjective things then it's simply one person's view point vs another. 2. Huge gaps in beliefs exist, but in practice most upstanding people's daily actions are closer to being the same vs different. Make a list of your daily activities. Include in that list your acts of kindness, charity, honesty, respectfulness, compassion, forgiveness, generosity, politeness, lovingness, and patience. How different are your daily/weekly/monthly/yearly actions compared to the actions of someone who's beliefs are different (atheist). I'm betting there would be more simalarities vs differences.
To have peace and happiness everyone in a group of people need to agree with the rules or laws set. Otherwise contention will arise and destroy peace. In this world we have millions of people with different ideals, we don't get on with each other because of this. So you need to fit into the tribe that supports your views, will happiness arise in that tribe? Time will tell if the laws you decided to live by and the consequences of the actions caused everyone in that tribe to be happy, if so you got it right if not your plan has failed. In life you have two sets of people those who are selfish or self serving and those who serve others. In the self serving group they only care about themselves they tend to exploit others for gain in such a world only the exploiters are happy. In the serving others group everyone is happy, that's why we are asked to do it! God cares about us all not just the few, it's why His kingdom is a success and why our current setup is a failure! While the wicked rule the people mourn! That's who we got running every country on the planet some worse than others, it's why we will never be a success until Christ comes as he will divide the sheep from the goats. He can work with the humble those who admit their mistakes and want to change. Those who think they got it right and won't change you can't do anything with, but to place them in a different kingdom where they can fight it out for the top seat. In Christ kingdom we are joint heirs with Christ all equal no arguments, fighting just joy and happiness. If this guy system is not producing happiness now it probably never will. By the fruits of our actions you will know you have it right or wrong! All truths are eternal, you can try pushing them aside if you don't like it, but they will never go away. For instance can a man become a woman? Truth will decide that, not people! No matter how much you want to become one! Sometimes we call it inconvenient truths will always bring you back to reality, like a slap in the face!
Religion can’t explain morality either. Usually when I talk to a believer it goes like this: Q. Where does morality come from? A. It comes from God. Q. Okay, where does God get morality? A. He always had it/God is literally morality/good Q. So where did God come from? A. [mysterious ways copout] So hold on, some mysterious invisible guy that’s as verifiable as Santa Claus is the arbiter of morality?
Joseph Smith and other prophets claim to have seen God and the Savior . . . There's your witness for God. It's a matter of whether you believe the testimonies of the prophets or not, or whether you are open to the idea that there could be truths beyond your limited mortal capabilities.
Morality does not come from God, morality comes from having a perfect understanding of what makes everyone whole or perfect. God is God because He has this understanding, when we attain this knowledge then we will be One with God and His will will be our will. Jesus Christ taught the way to receive this knowledge, He is our example on how to live our life and how to become One with God.
@advocate7643 Learning what is truth is the challenge and purpose of this life. We are given physical bodies and put in a fallen world to experience good and evil, we have been given a conscience which helps us discern which is which. We can put principles to test and see what fruits come from it.
Why do you bother to elevate Bill Reel to relevancy, he wasn’t particularly impressive before his dismissal from the church. Consider the fact that “Shepherds of the flock “, do considerable damage to the innocents, I fear for the welfare of his soul before our Just God, for God will not be mocked.
Bill Reel talking about morality is a joke. He has no morals as demonstrated by the despicable hit piece he did on Peter Vidmar. It was a disgusting smear on a good man. Jacob Hansen bringing such a loathsome individual on his video to talk about morality brings ill repute to his own podcast.
Who would run the world if everyone had an equal claim to what they decide is right and wrong, because there are no Gods to punish certain actions, even if hidden from others? Those with the willingness and ability to do whatever it takes to enforce their ideas on others. In other words, the most violent and fleshly. There would be no place for love or empathy, anyone with those would be a threat and eliminated. Children would grow up with no concept of empathy and love, only the concept to do whatever you have to to get whatever you want. Those few children who lived to adulthood would be the worst of the worst. God truly is love, and the existence of love and empathy proves the existence of God.
There are many meta-ethical positions out there that atheists, agnostics, theists, pantheists, etc could hold. Your view is one particular. Consider that there are moral realists and anti-realists;within each category, there are branching positions, with specific varying points of disagreement. It’s a much richer field than the average person gives credit for moral consideration. In any of those multiple subcategories, atheists and theists etc can hold the same general position. They may disagree on certain particulars, but even theists disagree about particulars themselves. There’s a lot more to this than you make of it, at first blush.
It's always hilarious when any religion, which uses the bible or a portion of it, talks about morality. 1 Samuel 15: 1-3 *if you think there's objective morality from your god, then you MUST ACCEPT the murder of infants & children as MORALLY GOOD*
That’s a straw-man of his position. Bill doesn’t know how to articulate his position coherently. There are much better arguments out there, but it’s clear he’s not educated on them.
@@kuriju88 laws are only as good as they are enforced. If those who have the this philosophy are the individual responsible for enforcement and prociicuting those that violate them then the laws are if they are not there. Also laws can be changed, punishments the equipment of a slap on the wrist not producing a change of behavior. When those that make the law believe that outside influences like laws should not Impede your ability to follow you inner authority like the guest is promoting, they will make or change laws to do so. We have seen this across the US and the world within the last 5 years.
@@RS-tz2znI wish I honestly could here. Bill has conflated several contradicting positions into a Frankenstein’s monster of his own. So much so, it’s impossible to unravel and steel man it for him. He couldn’t debate ethics or meta-ethics because he is too confused. I say that to be charitable because that’s the best I could say about his presentation. It’s clear he has thought a lot about these things. I think it’s clear he’s still figuring things out and trying. So, I can’t fault him for that, nor would I fault anyone for trying. IMO, he should stick to a more structured format because, unlike Jacob, Bill’s strengths don’t seem to be thinking on his feet. Jacob wants to dig into meta-ethical questions himself, especially as a way to invalidate his opponent’s reasons. Jacob isn’t strongly informed there; though, in contrast to Bill, Jacob has a decent command of ethics, for apologetic discussions.
How silly and microscopic... pay attention to this interview and you will see how silly this is. Jacob is using a small section of his ideas to promote his ideology, if you look at all into the concepts you will realize he is a lunatic.
My son was told he was a sociopath..and that he would be a killer one day for he showed no guilt for anything he has done. But we as parents know that all people have a chance to change how they are. And i sometimes felt it was hopeless, but i love my son so much i kept praying to the lord for help to turn him around , and i always talked to him with love and patience. And now he is thirty five. And has nearly lost his life twice, and realized the only ones that cared for him we i and his mother. And he started looking i to the church .
And has been completely different. God has answered my prayers.
I'm an engineer. He's got his idea of closed loop and open loop systems analogy wrong. In engineering it's the closed loop systems that are more powerful and desirable because they take the outputs of a system and feed it back to correct for anomalous behavior. Feedback is an amazing, almost magical thing in its power. If the church is a closed loop systems give me the church anyday.
It's a particularly good analogy because a feedback loop is what gives you reference. The output on a phase locked loop must be fed back and compared to the reference frequency in order to make the necessary changes. With a subjective moral standard, you have no reference, which means that there is no way to know where you are or where you need to be.
@@matthuber6270Exactly. In fact the analogy makes the perfect opposite point to the one he is trying to make.
That has nothing to do with Bill’s point which is echo chambers are bad. And the church not allowing outside info to its believers is how we get stagnant backwards systems. Like the church fighting against the civil rights and women’s suffrage movements. Because bigoted leaders tell them everything to believe. It’s information control.
"Objective morality doesn't exist, BUT DON'T YOU DARE BE RACIST"
This sums it all up succinctly.
@purpleboye morality is man made. So yes, we can help determine what should be moral and what shouldn’t be moral
If he’s a subjectivist, the second statement can still hold true, as long as he claims it’s also subjective.
@@kuriju88 If we determine what should be moral and what shouldn't be moral, then we can determine to change it at any point. And, if we can change it, then it means nothing.
If we say now that school shootings are bad and evil, but sometime in the future we decide that they aren't, then what are they? Are they bad and evil, or are they not? If we decide later that they're good, then are they good now?
See how that works? If morality is subjective and we just make it up, then it means nothing. Atheists have NOTHING. Their values are based on NOTHING. We came from NOTHING. And, when you die, you go into NOTHING. Wow. What a beautiful worldview to live by. 🙄
@@harmonillustration Yes, according to kuriju88, slavery only became immoral in the South in 1865, at the end of the civil war. Sending Jews to concentration camps was moral in Germany until 1945. My guess is that not even kuriju88 really believes this, but that is what their argument is supporting.
Bill was in my ward for a while. Smart guy who started out with a powerful testimony of the book of Mormon. Pains me to see him as an atheist. I learned some things from him when he was active, but we started debating about things like blacks and the priesthood, (my point being that a change there was always left open whereas changes to things like gay marriage were not) and the spirit left and it became wholly intellectual and I determined the debate was not constructive.
It’s super sad,
He’s full of “intellectual emptiness”.
🥲
Yeah, it's sad. His podcast was actually a huge help to me years ago when I was going through my own dark night of the soul. I kept listening after my testimony got stronger, and I could see where he began to slowly deviate until he finally became the very thing he was trying to speak out against.
Trying to listen and just can’t anymore. Reels is hopeless and I just can’t stomach how he reasons. Sorry, just not interested in his take on anything to be honest. Signing off now. Keep the good work going Jacob. You have much more patience than I do. Just got tired of Reels and RFM that I dealt with a few years ago. Waste of time then and especially now.
Please ignore my unsernsme. Today, I stood up in seminary and advocated for proper communication and spiritual honesty because I was inspired by your content. This kind of change towards real commitment must from the bottom, in ourselves, not the prophet. And the apostles know that
When he says that there’s no such thing as objective truth that is laughable because the very fact that subjectivity exists means objectivity also exists.
🤔 is it objectively true that there is no objective truth? (Poor, lonely truth 😢).
The science on the mental health issues of sociopath, psychopath, and narcissism all have a genetic component. That being said, all of these mental health situations are also impacted by the environment that they are raised in. Trauma, neglect, and abuse are all factors in how their mental health issues present themselves. Mental health is a very complicated issue that most people don't understand. You can put two children with the same genetic traits in the same environment and have two completely different outcomes. This in many respects has to do with how they process their environment. Mental health disorders are in many respects a lot like alcoholism. You can be genetically predisposed to becoming an alcoholic. In some cases the trauma and abuse in the environment can be so traumatic that the person loses all sense of reason and control. We can impact what happens to many people for good or bad.
Or be redeemed by the Atonement of Jesus Christ as Dr.David Wood was in prison for trying to kill his father and diagnosed as a sociopath.
You should get to know his story!
He's wrong about not being able to question the church. I've sent letters with concerns about the temple, word of wisdom policy etc. nobody is kicking me out. I have learned that I can disagree as long as I'm not disagreeable and not violating policy.
The leaders of the church are good people with good intentions. They want to get it right and they know they're not perfect. The church is true and it's miraculous how it's getting better with time and how the Lord is with us through our mistakes.
Has your letters done any good? Has any change been implemented? The church doesn’t change unless an outside influence forces it’s hand, which takes people like Bill Reel to get excommunicated.
This is going to read as sarcastic, but I’m being genuine here, and being genuine on the internet sounds sarcastic. 😂
I’m glad that you’re engaging with Bill and giving him a platform. I’m a free speech enthusiast. I think everyone with bad ideas should be given a megaphone so that everyone can see how dumb their ideas are. So, kudos. This is akin to the “Libs of TikTok” account where all they do is let people talk and then we all see how dumb their ideas are. Let them bury themselves.
100% agree.
The presence of objective morality is one of the strongest arguments for theism. Hard for us atheists to argue around it. Bill did pretty well but it’s a difficult thing to argue
You may personally think the argument is stronger, but it isn’t the case for philosophers in the west, most of whom are atheists, and most of whom are moral realists (Bourget, Chalmers: “2020 PhilPapers Survey”).
I think Bill was out of his depth here, as his strengths lie elsewhere.
If the average atheist read meta-ethical literature, they’d be equipped to deal with conversations like these fine, but most atheists aren’t being thoughtful or careful enough in constructing their world-views.
Are you going to publish the whole conversation?
Two points.
1. I don't think morality is objective, is it? Some things probably are, but if youur debating subjective things then it's simply one person's view point vs another.
2. Huge gaps in beliefs exist, but in practice most upstanding people's daily actions are closer to being the same vs different. Make a list of your daily activities. Include in that list your acts of kindness, charity, honesty, respectfulness, compassion, forgiveness, generosity, politeness, lovingness, and patience. How different are your daily/weekly/monthly/yearly actions compared to the actions of someone who's beliefs are different (atheist). I'm betting there would be more simalarities vs differences.
Is there more of this debate?
Bill, how did having an open marriage end up for you?
Good work Jacob.
2+2=57 to me, who are you to say there are objective standards to mathematics?
He looks like tom hanks in the thumbnail
To have peace and happiness everyone in a group of people need to agree with the rules or laws set. Otherwise contention will arise and destroy peace. In this world we have millions of people with different ideals, we don't get on with each other because of this. So you need to fit into the tribe that supports your views, will happiness arise in that tribe? Time will tell if the laws you decided to live by and the consequences of the actions caused everyone in that tribe to be happy, if so you got it right if not your plan has failed. In life you have two sets of people those who are selfish or self serving and those who serve others. In the self serving group they only care about themselves they tend to exploit others for gain in such a world only the exploiters are happy. In the serving others group everyone is happy, that's why we are asked to do it! God cares about us all not just the few, it's why His kingdom is a success and why our current setup is a failure! While the wicked rule the people mourn! That's who we got running every country on the planet some worse than others, it's why we will never be a success until Christ comes as he will divide the sheep from the goats. He can work with the humble those who admit their mistakes and want to change. Those who think they got it right and won't change you can't do anything with, but to place them in a different kingdom where they can fight it out for the top seat. In Christ kingdom we are joint heirs with Christ all equal no arguments, fighting just joy and happiness. If this guy system is not producing happiness now it probably never will. By the fruits of our actions you will know you have it right or wrong!
All truths are eternal, you can try pushing them aside if you don't like it, but they will never go away. For instance can a man become a woman? Truth will decide that, not people! No matter how much you want to become one! Sometimes we call it inconvenient truths will always bring you back to reality, like a slap in the face!
By the way, I think the new intro is sick
I agree, Bill’s mental gymnastics is exhausting and empty.
I’m peace-ing out on this one. ✌🏻
First interview I thought was a waste of my time. Sorry, I am already subscribed, but this one would not have moved the needle.
Debate Colby reddish. You’re not afraid are you?
Debate an actual nihilist. Reel, Dehlin, etc. still have a moralistic, masochistic christian structure.
Religion can’t explain morality either. Usually when I talk to a believer it goes like this:
Q. Where does morality come from?
A. It comes from God.
Q. Okay, where does God get morality?
A. He always had it/God is literally morality/good
Q. So where did God come from?
A. [mysterious ways copout]
So hold on, some mysterious invisible guy that’s as verifiable as Santa Claus is the arbiter of morality?
Joseph Smith and other prophets claim to have seen God and the Savior . . . There's your witness for God. It's a matter of whether you believe the testimonies of the prophets or not, or whether you are open to the idea that there could be truths beyond your limited mortal capabilities.
Morality does not come from God, morality comes from having a perfect understanding of what makes everyone whole or perfect. God is God because He has this understanding, when we attain this knowledge then we will be One with God and His will will be our will. Jesus Christ taught the way to receive this knowledge, He is our example on how to live our life and how to become One with God.
@@ignaciodelgado889okay so where does your religions standard of perfection come from?
@@phav1832why would I believe a random selection of people
@advocate7643 Learning what is truth is the challenge and purpose of this life. We are given physical bodies and put in a fallen world to experience good and evil, we have been given a conscience which helps us discern which is which. We can put principles to test and see what fruits come from it.
If there is no God, there is no moral "truth", and therefore, no one should feel obligated to adopt a particular morality. This is called chaos.
Why do you bother to elevate Bill Reel to relevancy, he wasn’t particularly impressive before his dismissal from the church. Consider the fact that “Shepherds of the flock “, do considerable damage to the innocents, I fear for the welfare of his soul before our Just God, for God will not be mocked.
Bill Reel talking about morality is a joke. He has no morals as demonstrated by the despicable hit piece he did on Peter Vidmar. It was a disgusting smear on a good man. Jacob Hansen bringing such a loathsome individual on his video to talk about morality brings ill repute to his own podcast.
Who would run the world if everyone had an equal claim to what they decide is right and wrong, because there are no Gods to punish certain actions, even if hidden from others? Those with the willingness and ability to do whatever it takes to enforce their ideas on others. In other words, the most violent and fleshly. There would be no place for love or empathy, anyone with those would be a threat and eliminated. Children would grow up with no concept of empathy and love, only the concept to do whatever you have to to get whatever you want. Those few children who lived to adulthood would be the worst of the worst. God truly is love, and the existence of love and empathy proves the existence of God.
I still don’t understand what an atheist would consider something moral and why it’s moral. Morality requires a divine law to live by.
There are many meta-ethical positions out there that atheists, agnostics, theists, pantheists, etc could hold.
Your view is one particular.
Consider that there are moral realists and anti-realists;within each category, there are branching positions, with specific varying points of disagreement. It’s a much richer field than the average person gives credit for moral consideration.
In any of those multiple subcategories, atheists and theists etc can hold the same general position. They may disagree on certain particulars, but even theists disagree about particulars themselves.
There’s a lot more to this than you make of it, at first blush.
No it doesn’t. Morality is subjective
I cant watch this guy anymore. He is looking for excuses to be thoughtless.
It's always hilarious when any religion, which uses the bible or a portion of it, talks about morality.
1 Samuel 15: 1-3
*if you think there's objective morality from your god, then you MUST ACCEPT the murder of infants & children as MORALLY GOOD*
If everyone has their own moral standard then that leads to societal collapse.
Is this what the guest really is promoting?
That’s a straw-man of his position.
Bill doesn’t know how to articulate his position coherently.
There are much better arguments out there, but it’s clear he’s not educated on them.
Fair enough, do you have a better version of the argument you could share?
@RS-tz2zn Isn’t that where laws come in though ? They are the codified morality of society
@@kuriju88 laws are only as good as they are enforced. If those who have the this philosophy are the individual responsible for enforcement and prociicuting those that violate them then the laws are if they are not there. Also laws can be changed, punishments the equipment of a slap on the wrist not producing a change of behavior.
When those that make the law believe that outside influences like laws should not Impede your ability to follow you inner authority like the guest is promoting, they will make or change laws to do so.
We have seen this across the US and the world within the last 5 years.
@@RS-tz2znI wish I honestly could here.
Bill has conflated several contradicting positions into a Frankenstein’s monster of his own. So much so, it’s impossible to unravel and steel man it for him.
He couldn’t debate ethics or meta-ethics because he is too confused.
I say that to be charitable because that’s the best I could say about his presentation. It’s clear he has thought a lot about these things. I think it’s clear he’s still figuring things out and trying. So, I can’t fault him for that, nor would I fault anyone for trying.
IMO, he should stick to a more structured format because, unlike Jacob, Bill’s strengths don’t seem to be thinking on his feet.
Jacob wants to dig into meta-ethical questions himself, especially as a way to invalidate his opponent’s reasons. Jacob isn’t strongly informed there; though, in contrast to Bill, Jacob has a decent command of ethics, for apologetic discussions.
How silly and microscopic... pay attention to this interview and you will see how silly this is. Jacob is using a small section of his ideas to promote his ideology, if you look at all into the concepts you will realize he is a lunatic.