The public have access to 8% of ALL green space in England and Wales. If conscientious wild campers, who respect nature, the environment, always leave no trace - and whose mental health is immeasurably improved in a crap world - are still highly worried that a policeman is going to knock on their tent door, then I think your option is a a useful one. Thanks for watching.
I've been wild camping for over 30 years and I have never been asked to move on, I always head for remote places well away from roads and paths, it's amazing the little gems you find if you head deep into a forest, just remember, leave only footprints.
Hi Kym. Get him to download the What3Words app to be able to send you his location for safety. Take back up snacks. Eat late to stay warm. Trust gut instinct at all times. Final advice: tune into nature, breathe and just enjoy.
Can you imagine how dull and mundane it must be to camp in Canada or the States. Every wildcamp In England (except Dartmoor) is tant amount to an SAS embassy storming mission.
I can and have known how dull it is trying to wild camp in the UK, dirty campers ruin it and how dull to trespass on private property, but the Brits love to dump camping gear at will and never clean up behind them it'd not what the British do I'll stick to the dull beauty of the USa and Canadian forests where you can actually lite a camp fire!!! Only wildlife to watch out for no big brother watching you
It’s frustrating but at the same time we have wonderful national parks and countryside. Very idyllic. It’s only a very very small percentage of ‘dirty campers’ that leave rubbish behind. The vast majority leave no trace and respect the land.
It makes me wonder if there could be a new gaming franchise for the armchair campers... something like i dunno... Tom Clancy's UK Wild Camping. A throw back to the classics. With the map planning etc. 🤣
Part of my job is to move people on if I come across them. Believe me, I don't like doing it, but try to be as polite as possible...a chainsaw on tick over and looking like a banjo player helps...one tip I'll give is to camp on the same side of the field as the gate if possible, even if we stop and look over the gate we often can't see very far either side of the hedge left and right, and just as often can't be arsed to go in to look.
@@rembrandtshadows No need for bribery. Provided people stay away from buildings then we tend to ignore them on the whole. It's a 'sensitive' site, but we allow some leeway.
Great advice. Honesty is always the best policy when dealing with land owners. I wild camp all across West Sussex and have been approach a handful of times over 35 years and all ended well, Infact the very first time it happened i was invited up to the farmhouse for breakfast! As you said, Be respectful and the universe will deal with the rest. Ive subbed btw :)
Sage advice.. It never hurts to say that you'll actually leave an area better than you found it. By that I mean, mention that you even picked up someone else's litter, coke can/crisp packet etc. Showing a little respect can more than often win someone over and offering a land owner, curious passer by a cup of tea, win their favour. In my experience, they will never take the cuppa, but by the universal law of tea offerance, they will generally think you are of good character. This doesn't work the same by offering them a Jaegerbomb or a can of Tennents Extra..
Check what’s going on locally event wise too. I stayed out in Yorkshire Dales near Ribblehead viaduct. Only a few sheep kicking about when I tucked in for the night, morning after there were folk all ower t’shop. Bloody 3 peaks fell race weren’t it 😄
My old man [83] was walking near his home, on paths he's travelled since he was a bairn, and was confronted by a lady near her house, saying he had no right of way, he reacted in the "you what?" vein and a yelling happened before my dad stormed off. The lady recorded the incident and uploaded the video to facebook and all of a sudden, there was a local witch hunt to further harass a harmless village elder getting their steps in for the day. Privatisation was a really evil idea. Land gifted to locals is being sold by corrupt local gov. And Public lands are being sold off too. Tories hate us commoners, us who live on the commons, common land, shared.
I've had this type of abuse mountain biking on public bridleways. People don't know rights of way. Also, trespassing is very rarely taken to court and is a 'soft' law.
Only been approached by a landowner once in two years, my first time out, I was in hindsight in a very easily seen place. Totally agree about engaging in conversation, by the end she apologised for having switch the water to the feeding troughs off a week before and took my bagged up rubbish away for me.
A good point at 1:26 on being out of view from any inhabited buildings. People sometimes forget that head torch (even on low setting) can be seen from a considerable distance.
Hello from New Zealand , I find it very difficult to understand how little wild bush there is in the UK. Over here the mountains and bush go on for as far as the eye can see and we can go camping for days on end and never see a soul. It is nice to see that you do make the best of it and it is commendable that you do. it would drive me crazy knowing that I could be moved on if I pitched my tent in the wrong place. It is ironic that the one of the finest countries in the world that spread freedom around the globe is restricted as to where you can go ( re camping). I like the spirit, and keep on wild camping.
It all stems back to very ancient English land laws that are hard to change unfortunately. We do our best! I do envy you guys in NZ and other places. One oido love to visit your country one day. Many thanks for watching the video. 👍👍Ben
Great video and tips thank you. We've found a smile and friendliness goes a long way when encountering people when out wild camping, but we've also never been asked to move on. As you say the main barrier to wild camping is the fear!
That's me 100%. I am so afraid someone is going to fine me and haul me off to jail😅 Reading through this comment section is telling me just to be respectful and friendly (not out of my ordinary nature)
Just went on my first ever wild camp with two friends in the Lake District. Parked a car way away from any towns and farmhouses in the hills… after 10 minutes of walking towards our intended location we were approached by a farmer on a quad bike. It pays to be honest, and engage in normal conversation with any landowners that come across you. In my case, the farmer had kindly pointed us in the direction of a further lay-by towards the edge of his property where we could walk into the hills and camp!
I was asked to leave once. But luckily I softened them up a bit by telling them I was cleaning up the area from trash from the people before me and after my self. And told them I was visiting my childhood area. I had to stay a bit longer because I got sick. They was suspicious because they had campers before that left the place in a mess. This in Sweden.
I always head for heavily wooded areas. Way off the pathway and way out the way in a dark condensed area, hidden away. SAS style, almost. I’ve never been found.
Great video and sage advice. Do love those awkward moments where someone sees you wild camping, says hello and you're like 'ok, I'm not supposed to be doing this but I'm just going to small talk until they say something about the tent' 😆
Be invisible is my tip. I'm also a fan of hammock camping because you can camp in places people wouldn't consider looking - damp places, slopes, uneven underfoot etc.
Just like some other comments, I been wild camping for a long time too, 40 years now,without bing spotted. I simply used my Army fieldcraft training ie use a map and compass, stay away from footpaths, buildings,farms Etc and head to remote places,blend into the environment you in eg Camouflage,and leave no trace when You leave.
Great video! Been doing this for about 5 years now and your spot on! Defo not worth an argument however I have never been approached or asked to move on either but finding good “remote” locations is difficult especially as I take my children with me.
I think the main trouble is from the outsiders point of view , who cannot, or will not distinguish between the genuine wild camper, and the noisy, drunk youths lighting fires and bbqs.
I've seen picnic tables that have been put out for the public destroyed by people using barby tins on them. Even genuine wild campers still think its OK to have a fire but even a stove is a worry for landowners when the land is dry.
Nice one Ben excellent tips. I still, when wild camping, endlessly expect someone to rattle the tent and 'oh you in there!' I could be up a mountain or a woods miles from anywhere, but it still gets me. I've come to the conclusion that I actually enjoy the 'sneaky bit' because in the morning when I'm up and off I smile at myself. Not had much sleep mind, but still smile at myself. Come to think on it, I've never actually been challenged, most likely because I'm so paranode about it happening I squirrel myself away in the smallest, shadowy place I can find and don't make a sound. LOL Brilliant! ATB Dave. oh! and I also do all the stuff you mention. Rock on mate.
Great tips. I always make sure I have no clear view of any paths or roads or habitation when I camp. If you can't see them, they can't see you. I make sure I'm in a nook and not exposed from any angle. Then I stay low and quiet and fairly dark and no one's ever disturbed me in 30 years of camping over here or in South Africa.
I always tend to go for woodland as it's easier to hide. If I have to go in a field it's always by a wall or hedge for a little extra cover, completely agree with your point about being in view of buildings
I reckon building a fire is just asking for trouble, it's rarely necessary, rather a nice luxury, but no land owner would encourage it, really. Smoke signals in the finest tradition to anyone who's looking out for campers can't be a good idea. I pack up first thing too, then get breakfast on usually. Bivvying rather than tenting makes things much simpler and quicker, not to mention lighter.
I really needed this video , I've just got all my gear and going for my first camp this weekend, I've become increasingly concerned as now I realise here in South East Kent, I'm mostly surrounded by ministry of defence land, and I don't think it's a good idea to go there, looks like I'm going to have to travel out a bit which is okay as I do have a campervan should it all go wrong or something. I've just watched your South downs way one and I like the look of that one, that's definitely going on the list. It's turning out to be harder than I expected, I just wanted to walk down the road and set up 🙄 so good to read so many positive comments too 👍 respect to you all 👍
I'm really glad you found the video helpful. I think ultimately, especially when new, it's very much about the research and preparation. If you get this bit right, it provides confidence. If you need any further help or have any questions, please feel free to message me on Instagram. Many thanks for watching - Ben
And a most important point!! Take your litter home with you!! This will make it a lot better for wild campers in the future, it’s a shame some people don’t follow this simple rule and ruin this experience of the outdoors for the rest of us. Nice vid mate!
Subscribed. Nice to get a UK view of things as I'm always finding American. Which isn't a bad thing, it's just nice to hear it from a fellow Brit. I'll be taking a look back through your videos. I appreciate your help.
Useful video. Thank you. I think the key is: respect. If you have pitched respectfully, in not breaking down trees or lighting fires, in not leaving your stuff spread all over the place ( even if you intended to pick it all up in the morning), and by being respectful in the way you talk to the person that has found you, then you are doing everything you can to give the impression that you care for the land and that you mean to leave no trace.
Good one Ben. I've never been challenged/questioned either. In certain locations I am mindful of gamekeepers when I'm near grouse moors as I've had the odd issues in the past on day walks. You are right though, picking your location wisely is key to minimising any potential issues. Best wishes, Chris
I was a few weeks ago about half a mile a way from Bamford Edge and in the morning once I packed up I was approached by the land owner. We had a lovely chat, she informed me that the land was not part of the National Trust. I did apologize for not realizing. She was not too bothered as she could see as I packed up I left no trace and was respectful to her. From what I understood it was the people who light fires, left rubbish that really annoyed her. We both left each other happy.
@@benhikescamps definitely better quality pic. We are all well. I mowed the lawn for the first time this year in hope that summer will come😄😄. Regards to the girls.
one tip is to camp on higher ground, weather permitting. i with the pitch late, leave early rule it's even less likely to see anyone. also a tent that blends in with surroundings that's not brightly coloured is a good idea.
I happened upon a wild camper just two nights ago. I was out with the dogs, about 10pm on the Wolds Way. The guy had awful light discipline. I saw his light from a full half-mile away, and if I'd had an unobstructed line-of-sight, I would judge that it would have been visible from two miles; probably more. He had chosen the edge of a small copse, 130 yards from the path. The copse is 1200 yards from the edge of the village. Perfect dog-walking territory ... but, he'd have been fine if he'd moved out early and kept his lights off. I concede that it's perhaps unusual for someone to be out dog-walking so late, tho not unusual for ME. I went back at 04:30, by which time it was near full daylight, and the guy was fast asleep. AFAIK, he has no idea that his camp was discovered. On the plus side, when he DID leave, he left no evidence of his stay.
Easiest and best way to wild/stealth camp is with a bivvy bag there is no place that you cant camp within reason also you're technically not camping but resting as it is not classed as a structure because no poles.
Good tips there over thirty years I have only been moved on twice and they were both on sites open to the public, both after 6am while cooking. And both over 20 years ago. Stealth hidden in the woods is the way to go and hammocks are so much more comfortable. Cheers.
Great video sound advice put across very well. We have been wild camping for a few years now and not had any problems, but i think being willing to hike a long way in, above the highest fell gate if possible and not having a fire is key. Just subscribed😊👍
Good video dude. Easily the number one reason I fear going wild camping. That embarrassment of being told off, but like you said with common sense and respect your’ll probably going to be fine.
The worst case scenario is you’ve have to apologise and then walk out. If it’s dark and you have to do it (highly unlikely), just know the route out and make sure your head-torch is accessible and ready to go! Ultimately, I truly believe it’s about thorough planning. To alleviate fear further, I would do at least one daylight recce. There comes a point though when you just have to take the plunge! Let me know Ben if you need further ideas or help. Feel free to email me (see channel About section). Thanks - Ben 👍
As an American, I have a hard time understanding those concerns. . . .I have had order trespassers off the property as well as my neighbors. If you are just camping and not disturbing or robbing anyone, I don't understand the problem. Smoking hemp and lighting someone's porch on fire, yes. Just pitching a tent? So, have enough water? Should I bring some by? Do keep an eye out for any strange characters and the screams at night, its just the vixen in heat or a possum.
Here in the states I contact the land owner ( If it's private property ) for permission to camp on their land. Put yourself in the landowners position on trespassers. Respect , Courtesy and Honesty are three keys to getting permission. Always leave no trace that you have been there or as we say , " Take only pictures , leave only footprints ". I hammock camp so I don't even leave a footprint ( Matted Grass , Broken branches ) of a camp. Some of the State owned land requires a phone call ( Or computer reservation ) to the headquarters so they know you will be there , when and for how long. Remember , it's best to ask even if you get turned down then to get arrested for trespassing.
Really interesting hearing an American perspective Chuck. In the UK, trespass is a civil offence rather than a criminal offence. I imagine trespass is treated differently from state to state in the US? I would love wild camp in your country Chuck! Many thanks for watching - Ben 👍🇺🇸🇬🇧
@@benhikescamps... Wild areas , Locally we have the Ocala National Forest and you can camp anywhere in it as long as it's not hunting season. Here in Florida the Florida Trail is 1.300 miles long ( Everglades to the Panhandle ) open for camping while hiking and it goes threw some wild areas. Some spots require permission , The Seminole Indian reservation in south Florida and U.S. Military property in North Florida. Florida Trail membership is required for those areas.
I'm a Brit, nomadic in Europe where wild camping is ok,all the same,your tips are just as pertinent. Thing is, most of the time, if approached, I get invited closer to their homes. (But,then, I do have a bull powered waggon!)
Great video - I haven't wild camped anywhere it's not allowed by law yet, but plan on doing the two moors way this summer. As a solo female I am a bit nervous about being asked to move on in the middle of the night but reading all the comments on here and on your video makes me think if I choose my spot wisely and engage with anyone who comes and speaks to me I should be ok
Hi Caroline. Thanks for your comments. Have you thought about camping with another female first before doing a solo? There’s also the option of doing a semi/wild camp on permitted land. I have a couple of ideas for that. I’m on Instagram so feel free to message me and I might be able make some suggestions. Thanks and ATB - Ben
Great tips Ben! Like you say mate, there's no point in having it out with someone, it can only make it harder for you and others in the future. I'm yet to be moved on in my time camping, but was very close to being caught in a public access woodland, where a floodlight was aimed in my direction 😬
Nicely presented film, gives reassurance. Shouldn't need saying but leave absolutely no indication you have been there....even if it takes removing someone else's toot.............
I’ve been wild camping for many years, especially in mountain regions and have noticed over the last 3-4 years the increasing incidents of morons lighting fires and leaving rubbish. As a consequence, more and more land owners are becoming pro active and I’m hearing increasingly of people being moved on, although it hasn’t happened to me yet. Good advice mate. Keep your head down, keep your camp tidy, don’t light fires, be respectful if approached and leave no trace.
Thing is in the UK you cant get done by the police for trespassing as its a civil offense and the land owner would have to take you to court. Now this is almost unheard of as they would have to gain evidence & get your personal info (make sure your car or whatever is far away from where you camp). They cant detain you, touch you or take any of your possessions otherwise that's theft and assault and then you can call the police on them. I've been asked to move on in the past and respectfully refused as I had alcohol and it would have been too dangerous to hike at 2am in those conditions. They accepted that and I said I'd be gone at first light and never come back which they were fine with. Yes always be polite but also know your rights and the law and you'll be fine.
i worked at a summer camp in USA in 2009 taking kids canoe camping down the Conneticut river after a month of non stop rainfall so it was moving quick!! On the last night we decided to wild camp at a portage point but we weren't sure if it belonged to a house the other side of some woods. My American colleague was paranoid to go and ask if we could stop there cos they got guns in America lol so we came in at nightfall and up and on our way at daybreak. Much better than struggling against against the current for our exit point.
I once woke up on white Edge Moor (Peak District) on the very edge next to a path at 11 in the morning I over slept that morning 🤣🤣 the place was full of people but no one cared, a few came up to have a chat.
@@migranthawker2952 I've never had an issue when going out in the Peaks, even with the rangers that realise I'm camping once they realise your responsible and not setting fires and leaving litter about.
Great advice ! Here where I am near Ottawa Canada it’s pretty much the same. Overall I think you just have to be smart about it. Problem is since Covid started a lot more people are “going in the woods” and leaving rubbish and burning trees. People like that spoil it for others. Hopefully when Covid gets under control those people will stay out of the woods. Thanks for sharing. Take care and stay safe.
Never been found or asked to move yet. Came close last night, because the was somebody (guessing the land owner) patrolling the woods with a quadbike around 10:30 in the evening. They got within about 100 meters but did not see me.
I like your photography pitch. Mine is in doing nature and wildlife sound recording. In actual fact I have a field recorder and mic with me so I am also telling the truth. I usually give my SoundCloud name to them so they can listen for themselves.
Some really good point there Ben covers that topic well looked like u were having a nice walk in wot looked to me like Battersea park I may be wrong though lol
Got me thinking. I wonder how many people “wild camp” overnight in England - let us say, in the middle of summer? It would be interesting to know. And that includes those who have no choice otherwise.
Don't have a massive bright colour tent have something like a camo basha because it's smaller harder to see and quicker to pack up and move if there's a lot of movement around. Also don't make a fire
Some good valid points there. May I suggest to learn up every thing u can regarding the laws of trespass very hard for the land owner to prove especially if u did not cross a visible fence or wall and the law states they Have to have very strong belief ( not proof ) that you went with the intension to remove goods / and or property . If challenged be polite always be polite and above all listen to what they are saying ,prior to your visit they may have had several wild camps of drunken kids building fires and leaving litter and damage and you - as polite as you are may ve the straw that broke the... etc etc and the warden may be a bit jumpy ' if you genuinely are knackered or its getting dark politely state this but firmly you are injured u are exausted it is too dark to move they can call the police who have far better things to do an if they turn out they will normally take your side and simply ask as soon as you can in the morning move on . All this I know from experience up here in Yorkshire they are employing former soldiers dug in the ground with thermal image equipment ! Always ALWAYS learn about lambing times and cattle breeding and avoid these areas at all cost the land owners will only repect our rights if we respect their way of life .
There are some woods around a park near me that I go to often for 'day camping'. I build very small fires for cooking (grilling is allowed at this park) on a small rock slab that I built, with a low wall around it. Often my fires smoke like a chimney for quite a while (I'm not a great fire maker), but no one has ever approached me or investigated whether the forest is on fire lol. Not even police, whom I've seen at a distance in the park a few times. I was thinking about possibly doing an overnighter sometime in this spot, because it's not a bad spot. However, today, as I was sitting eating my chicken in the glorious dappled sunlight, I heard some rustling in the brush behind me several times. I kept watch to see what it was, and all of a sudden this HUGE rat heads toward me!! I threw a stick at him and he ran away, for a few minutes, then came toward me (and presumably my chicken) again. Of all the issues I thought I might have wild camping in an urban park, i.e. police, vagrants, drunk teenagers, etc, it NEVER occurred to me that the thing that would be a problem was rats!! So, needless-to-say, I won't be camping there, hahahaha. Thank you for the tips and reassurance about dealing with people. Got any suggestions for rats? :)
I've heard in places like the peak district the landowners are sending out people on quadbikes with heat vision cameras quite late to find people and move them on because over lockdown apparently lots of new people have been doing wild camping with no regard for leave no trace etiquette.
The problem with "arrive late, leave early" is that local park rangers are on lookout for people carrying camping gear at those times. In contrast, a backpacker during the day is more common as there could be campsites nearby or a hotel.
In my experience, I’ve never seen landowners or farmers looking for campers late at night or 5am in the morning. I think they work hard and just want a rest at those times. That’s just my experience. Never had any issues with that approach. Would never pitch up in the middle of the day in the Uk.
@@benhikescamps ah, I live in The Netherlands and nature is being guarded by park rangers, because we have so little of it. I've never been caught myself, but I have seen them drive around at those times. Wouldn't want to camp on a Dutch farmer's field. Way too boring; just endless grass with little to no shade.
I guess it's all about establishing trust. There's people who are responsible and others who are idiots, light fires and make a mess. Maybe the good ones should help report the bad ones.
Enjoyed the video! Liked and subscribed. Come over the US sometime and go camping! My thru-hiker friends Dixie and Daisy would say the PCT is great! Personally, I am not a thru-hiker but a bushcrafter, prepper, and fisherman and since I live in Virginia, the AT would be more my speed (no deserts no high mountains). Laters ma dudes!
I have to be honest and say I am not afraid of the dark, or camping alone as a woman. I AM afraid of being moved on, because I would be terrified of being told off by a complete stranger. South Cambs has precious few places that I can camp and even less woodland.
I think fires are the big fear of landowners but also things like tent pegs or other litter left behind that might cause issues for grazing. For the camper you might want to be wary of fields that have cattle in that might trample your tent or be protective of their young. A farmer might fill his field with such at any time without warning.
My MO, walk in and walk out. Pitch up at dusk at the earliest. Be gone no later than 30 min after sunrise. No fires, no smelly food and no getting rat arsed or blaring music. If you want to do any messing about, getting bladdered etc just go on a proper campsite. Too many wild campers are lazy, walk 20m off the path and pitch up a 6 man tent and start with a full BBQ with Rihanna blasting! Then wonder why the old bill or land owners get annoyed.
I went to a Forestry Commission camp site once with a couple of friends and was told they don't want gangs. Another time I went to another by myself and they said its a family site and don't want single men lurking.
If you can see a farm you can ask for permission to camp. In my experience mostly it will be granted. Any light weight camper is welcome to camp on my farm.
Great video -- thanks. Trespass, unless on educational premises, railway property, protected sites etc., is a civil offence and the police will not usually attend. All the landowner can do is get your details and take you to court -- that isn't likely to happen if you are polite and contrite as advised here.
i took my kids to blue lake above fairbourne (old quarry) where i use to go as a kid...after telling them how good it would be and taking our stuff up i was gutted to find that due to litter and twats the owner took bout 10 tonne of stone up and a digger and plugged the tunnel u needed to access the pool. Spoilt the day a little but reading up i understand completely. Do not understand why people leave crap on mountains.....especially banana peel
I have a,4 man beach tent and I followed ur good advice but my problem is when i let go of my knees to move my foot tocover two holes ,it just springsback up !!o dear Tent too long for me
Good general advice. My fear is that there has been such an increase in wild camping (both the responsible and the irresponsible kind), plus so much of it being posted on media for all to see, that regulation is not far away. Currently wild camping is usually just a tolerated unlawful activity (in most of England & Wales), but I see the criminal law being brought to bear, permits being required for National Parks hiking, 'approved' routes and campsites, a growing army of petty enforcers, much like in other parts of the world.....and all in the name of conservation, 'elf'n'safety, diversity, etc etc
I fully get that lighting a raging open fire, made from twigs and branches, is a very bad idea when wild camping..but is it generally ok to fire-up a little camping stove..for a quick brew?
In the wrong conditions even a hot camping stove or sparks from it can start a leaf/grass/heather fire. Farmers are aware of this and worry about it, so consider the dryness conditions.
I have been wild camping in the vast majority of the European countries for 44 years and never had to move on or any trouble. Just do your thing without any worries, but be discrete and leave no trace.
Sadly the vast majority of European countries have a much saner legal situation when it comes to wild camping than England and Wales, especially with the new rules in the Policing Bill currently working through parliament where it shifts from a simple civil matter (already difficult compared to Scotland or most of Europe) to a criminal matter where equipment can be seized.
The hot spots are clearly being watched very closely by rangers. I would just avoid all of those areas and be very smart in how you wild camp generally.
A bit of recon always helps, but that usually isn't possible in areas you are visiting for the first time with all your gear in tow. Always scope out local areas though. I tend to try and pick spots that are well covered (easier once the leaves return) and if possible, a lot of hard work to reach. It may sound obvious but newcomers must also pick colours that blend in, I use only green and/or camo etc,...for that reason. I recently found a spot that has a lake in front of me and a high fenced off railway behind - to reach it requires moving through the dense thicket and therefore is not somewhere either humans or animals would likely tread. So there's an example of how I try to prevent myself from being discovered.
When you say, do not have a fire does that include something like a trangia stove to heat water or a stew or something like that? Thanks, great video, much appreciated.
how to avoid getting moved on.....dont camp illegally on access land or national parks .
The public have access to 8% of ALL green space in England and Wales. If conscientious wild campers, who respect nature, the environment, always leave no trace - and whose mental health is immeasurably improved in a crap world - are still highly worried that a policeman is going to knock on their tent door, then I think your option is a a useful one.
Thanks for watching.
I've been wild camping for over 30 years and I have never been asked to move on, I always head for remote places well away from roads and paths, it's amazing the little gems you find if you head deep into a forest, just remember, leave only footprints.
I agree. The gems are out there. Time set aside to recce and prep is key. 👍👍
I like that- leave only footprints. I like leave somefhing like small stone structure hidden in safe area, just to sign place as "mine". :)
Hi Kym. Get him to download the What3Words app to be able to send you his location for safety. Take back up snacks. Eat late to stay warm. Trust gut instinct at all times. Final advice: tune into nature, breathe and just enjoy.
He won’t regret it.
Can you imagine how dull and mundane it must be to camp in Canada or the States. Every wildcamp In England (except Dartmoor) is tant amount to an SAS embassy storming mission.
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I can and have known how dull it is trying to wild camp in the UK, dirty campers ruin it and how dull to trespass on private property, but the Brits love to dump camping gear at will and never clean up behind them it'd not what the British do I'll stick to the dull beauty of the USa and Canadian forests where you can actually lite a camp fire!!! Only wildlife to watch out for no big brother watching you
It’s frustrating but at the same time we have wonderful national parks and countryside. Very idyllic. It’s only a very very small percentage of ‘dirty campers’ that leave rubbish behind. The vast majority leave no trace and respect the land.
It makes me wonder if there could be a new gaming franchise for the armchair campers... something like i dunno... Tom Clancy's UK Wild Camping. A throw back to the classics. With the map planning etc. 🤣
Part of my job is to move people on if I come across them. Believe me, I don't like doing it, but try to be as polite as possible...a chainsaw on tick over and looking like a banjo player helps...one tip I'll give is to camp on the same side of the field as the gate if possible, even if we stop and look over the gate we often can't see very far either side of the hedge left and right, and just as often can't be arsed to go in to look.
Great to hear a comment from the other side of it all. Many thanks Rhialobran.
Fair play for chipping in from the other side of the fence, so to speak.
so if I knock on the door, ask permission, and leave a six pack, is that fine then?
@@rembrandtshadows No need for bribery. Provided people stay away from buildings then we tend to ignore them on the whole. It's a 'sensitive' site, but we allow some leeway.
@@davehumpleby3440 As a wildcamper I look at things from both perspectives.
Great advice. Honesty is always the best policy when dealing with land owners. I wild camp all across West Sussex and have been approach a handful of times over 35 years and all ended well, Infact the very first time it happened i was invited up to the farmhouse for breakfast! As you said, Be respectful and the universe will deal with the rest. Ive subbed btw :)
Great advice Rock and I feel inspired from your experience over the 35 years! Many thanks for watching and for subbing. 🙏
Sage advice.. It never hurts to say that you'll actually leave an area better than you found it. By that I mean, mention that you even picked up someone else's litter, coke can/crisp packet etc. Showing a little respect can more than often win someone over and offering a land owner, curious passer by a cup of tea, win their favour. In my experience, they will never take the cuppa, but by the universal law of tea offerance, they will generally think you are of good character. This doesn't work the same by offering them a Jaegerbomb or a can of Tennents Extra..
Great advice 👍
Lol 😅
Check what’s going on locally event wise too. I stayed out in Yorkshire Dales near Ribblehead viaduct. Only a few sheep kicking about when I tucked in for the night, morning after there were folk all ower t’shop. Bloody 3 peaks fell race weren’t it 😄
LOL - how random that must have felt! Great point made!! Thanks for that.
@@benhikescamps aye, it baffled me for a minute or 2.
Brilliant 😂
This made me wee a little 😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
My old man [83] was walking near his home, on paths he's travelled since he was a bairn, and was confronted by a lady near her house, saying he had no right of way, he reacted in the "you what?" vein and a yelling happened before my dad stormed off. The lady recorded the incident and uploaded the video to facebook and all of a sudden, there was a local witch hunt to further harass a harmless village elder getting their steps in for the day. Privatisation was a really evil idea. Land gifted to locals is being sold by corrupt local gov. And Public lands are being sold off too. Tories hate us commoners, us who live on the commons, common land, shared.
I've had this type of abuse mountain biking on public bridleways. People don't know rights of way. Also, trespassing is very rarely taken to court and is a 'soft' law.
Only been approached by a landowner once in two years, my first time out, I was in hindsight in a very easily seen place. Totally agree about engaging in conversation, by the end she apologised for having switch the water to the feeding troughs off a week before and took my bagged up rubbish away for me.
Well said Jonathan.
A good point at 1:26 on being out of view from any inhabited buildings. People sometimes forget that head torch (even on low setting) can be seen from a considerable distance.
Use red light
Hello from New Zealand , I find it very difficult to understand how little wild bush there is in the UK. Over here the mountains and bush go on for as far as the eye can see and we can go camping for days on end and never see a soul. It is nice to see that you do make the best of it and it is commendable that you do. it would drive me crazy knowing that I could be moved on if I pitched my tent in the wrong place. It is ironic that the one of the finest countries in the world that spread freedom around the globe is restricted as to where you can go ( re camping). I like the spirit,
and keep on wild camping.
It all stems back to very ancient English land laws that are hard to change unfortunately. We do our best! I do envy you guys in NZ and other places. One oido love to visit your country one day. Many thanks for watching the video. 👍👍Ben
Scotland has different land laws and plenty of Wilderness, but best to check the weather forecast before you go.
Agreed.
40 odd years wild camping from top to bottom of UK and never been asked to move on 🤷🏻
we should protect this ideal, as peacekeepers, as tax payers, we deserve to be able to scoot off for a wild night harming none
Great video and tips thank you. We've found a smile and friendliness goes a long way when encountering people when out wild camping, but we've also never been asked to move on. As you say the main barrier to wild camping is the fear!
Well said!
That's me 100%. I am so afraid someone is going to fine me and haul me off to jail😅 Reading through this comment section is telling me just to be respectful and friendly (not out of my ordinary nature)
Once you take the plunge and get over the fear, it becomes sooo much easier! Many thanks for watching Kimberly. 👍⛺️
Just went on my first ever wild camp with two friends in the Lake District. Parked a car way away from any towns and farmhouses in the hills… after 10 minutes of walking towards our intended location we were approached by a farmer on a quad bike.
It pays to be honest, and engage in normal conversation with any landowners that come across you.
In my case, the farmer had kindly pointed us in the direction of a further lay-by towards the edge of his property where we could walk into the hills and camp!
I was asked to leave once. But luckily I softened them up a bit by telling them I was cleaning up the area from trash from the people before me and after my self. And told them I was visiting my childhood area. I had to stay a bit longer because I got sick. They was suspicious because they had campers before that left the place in a mess. This in Sweden.
Good idea about telling them you were cleaning up Betty!
I always head for heavily wooded areas. Way off the pathway and way out the way in a dark condensed area, hidden away. SAS style, almost. I’ve never been found.
That’s the way 👍
Good info, I was wondering, with or without fire?
Great video and sage advice. Do love those awkward moments where someone sees you wild camping, says hello and you're like 'ok, I'm not supposed to be doing this but I'm just going to small talk until they say something about the tent' 😆
Many thanks for watching. Yes, we’ll said!
Be invisible is my tip. I'm also a fan of hammock camping because you can camp in places people wouldn't consider looking - damp places, slopes, uneven underfoot etc.
100% agree
Good tip. Thanks Life Coach. 👍
Yes they are good Michael.
If you're not touching the ground then surely you are not trespassing, ha ha.
Just like some other comments, I been wild camping for a long time too, 40 years now,without bing spotted. I simply used my Army fieldcraft training ie use a map and compass, stay away from footpaths, buildings,farms Etc and head to remote places,blend into the environment you in eg Camouflage,and leave no trace when You leave.
Nice one needed that reassurance! Off on my first solo camp this evening in the depths of North Somerset xx
Wishing you a great camp! Let me know how it goes. 👍Ben👍
Great video! Been doing this for about 5 years now and your spot on! Defo not worth an argument however I have never been approached or asked to move on either but finding good “remote” locations is difficult especially as I take my children with me.
Awesome views very beautiful
Subscribed. Love your tips, keep up the great work. Camper here looking forward to some wild camping next year.
Many thanks for subbing. Welcome aboard. 👍⛺️
I think the main trouble is from the outsiders point of view , who cannot, or will not distinguish between the genuine wild camper, and the noisy, drunk youths lighting fires and bbqs.
That’s a very good point Neil. Very true.
I've seen picnic tables that have been put out for the public destroyed by people using barby tins on them. Even genuine wild campers still think its OK to have a fire but even a stove is a worry for landowners when the land is dry.
Nice one Ben excellent tips. I still, when wild camping, endlessly expect someone to rattle the tent and 'oh you in there!' I could be up a mountain or a woods miles from anywhere, but it still gets me. I've come to the conclusion that I actually enjoy the 'sneaky bit' because in the morning when I'm up and off I smile at myself. Not had much sleep mind, but still smile at myself. Come to think on it, I've never actually been challenged, most likely because I'm so paranode about it happening I squirrel myself away in the smallest, shadowy place I can find and don't make a sound. LOL Brilliant! ATB Dave. oh! and I also do all the stuff you mention. Rock on mate.
Thanks Dave. Great comments.
@@benhikescamps welcome 👍
Great tips. I always make sure I have no clear view of any paths or roads or habitation when I camp. If you can't see them, they can't see you. I make sure I'm in a nook and not exposed from any angle. Then I stay low and quiet and fairly dark and no one's ever disturbed me in 30 years of camping over here or in South Africa.
Thanks for sharing that advice. Good tips too. 👍👍
I always tend to go for woodland as it's easier to hide. If I have to go in a field it's always by a wall or hedge for a little extra cover, completely agree with your point about being in view of buildings
Good advice. Thanks.
Where are good woodlands in the UK?
A good but quite big question there Bobby. Have you looked at a map of your area or region perhaps? Thanks for watching.
A map doesn't tell u where is good to go, only that there are woods.
Really good advice. Sometimes in the UK, especially in the south, there's a fine line between wild camping and stealth camping :)
Thanks Stevie.
Both mean the same for me. I wild camp in stealth. If anyone knows I’ve been there then I did it wrong!🤷♂️👀
A good approach John 👍
I reckon building a fire is just asking for trouble, it's rarely necessary, rather a nice luxury, but no land owner would encourage it, really. Smoke signals in the finest tradition to anyone who's looking out for campers can't be a good idea. I pack up first thing too, then get breakfast on usually. Bivvying rather than tenting makes things much simpler and quicker, not to mention lighter.
I have found a quick flash of my revolver tends to calm down any busybodies. That's the North of England for you, it's the only language they know.
That's on parity with Northern Ireland for dealing with a problem.
Yeah, course you did!
@@coops1964 hahaha
Great video mate, You kept it short and straight to the point.
Many thanks Henry.
I really needed this video , I've just got all my gear and going for my first camp this weekend, I've become increasingly concerned as now I realise here in South East Kent, I'm mostly surrounded by ministry of defence land, and I don't think it's a good idea to go there, looks like I'm going to have to travel out a bit which is okay as I do have a campervan should it all go wrong or something. I've just watched your South downs way one and I like the look of that one, that's definitely going on the list. It's turning out to be harder than I expected, I just wanted to walk down the road and set up 🙄 so good to read so many positive comments too 👍 respect to you all 👍
I'm really glad you found the video helpful. I think ultimately, especially when new, it's very much about the research and preparation. If you get this bit right, it provides confidence. If you need any further help or have any questions, please feel free to message me on Instagram. Many thanks for watching - Ben
@@benhikescamps thanks mate, yea I'm checking places out before I commit to a stay, I'm sure I'll get there in the end. Thanks a lot 👍👍👍
That was very reassuring, thank you!
And a most important point!! Take your litter home with you!! This will make it a lot better for wild campers in the future, it’s a shame some people don’t follow this simple rule and ruin this experience of the outdoors for the rest of us.
Nice vid mate!
Many thanks!
Subscribed. Nice to get a UK view of things as I'm always finding American. Which isn't a bad thing, it's just nice to hear it from a fellow Brit. I'll be taking a look back through your videos. I appreciate your help.
Useful video. Thank you.
I think the key is: respect. If you have pitched respectfully, in not breaking down trees or lighting fires, in not leaving your stuff spread all over the place ( even if you intended to pick it all up in the morning), and by being respectful in the way you talk to the person that has found you, then you are doing everything you can to give the impression that you care for the land and that you mean to leave no trace.
Good points there. Many thanks for watching.
Good one Ben. I've never been challenged/questioned either. In certain locations I am mindful of gamekeepers when I'm near grouse moors as I've had the odd issues in the past on day walks. You are right though, picking your location wisely is key to minimising any potential issues. Best wishes, Chris
Thanks Chris. I agree. It’s all about the planning and just using common sense. Hope all is well. Looking forward to your next video. Ben
I was a few weeks ago about half a mile a way from Bamford Edge and in the morning once I packed up I was approached by the land owner. We had a lovely chat, she informed me that the land was not part of the National Trust. I did apologize for not realizing. She was not too bothered as she could see as I packed up I left no trace and was respectful to her. From what I understood it was the people who light fires, left rubbish that really annoyed her. We both left each other happy.
Many thanks for sharing that experience. 👍🙏⛺️
Good informative video, thanks for sharing! Also I see you are creeping close to 2000 subscribers...well deserved Ben.
Thanks for the feedback Derek. Yes, the 2K is creeping ever closer! 💪🏻👍⛺️
Some great advice for the wild campers. Lovely to see the sun in East London. 👌👌
So nice in the park. Also, my new camera really picked up the colours nicely. Hope all is well with you and Mandy. 👍👍
@@benhikescamps definitely better quality pic. We are all well. I mowed the lawn for the first time this year in hope that summer will come😄😄. Regards to the girls.
I always reply 'Living The Dream' 9 times out of 10 their reply is always 'Good For You' enjoy your day
Great information video buddy 👍👍
Good idea!
one tip is to camp on higher ground, weather permitting. i with the pitch late, leave early rule it's even less likely to see anyone. also a tent that blends in with surroundings that's not brightly coloured is a good idea.
I happened upon a wild camper just two nights ago. I was out with the dogs, about 10pm on the Wolds Way.
The guy had awful light discipline. I saw his light from a full half-mile away, and if I'd had an unobstructed line-of-sight, I would judge that it would have been visible from two miles; probably more.
He had chosen the edge of a small copse, 130 yards from the path. The copse is 1200 yards from the edge of the village. Perfect dog-walking territory ... but, he'd have been fine if he'd moved out early and kept his lights off. I concede that it's perhaps unusual for someone to be out dog-walking so late, tho not unusual for ME. I went back at 04:30, by which time it was near full daylight, and the guy was fast asleep. AFAIK, he has no idea that his camp was discovered.
On the plus side, when he DID leave, he left no evidence of his stay.
oops....
Easiest and best way to wild/stealth camp is with a bivvy bag there is no place that you cant camp within reason also you're technically not camping but resting as it is not classed as a structure because no poles.
Very good tip. Thanks.
Good tips there over thirty years I have only been moved on twice and they were both on sites open to the public, both after 6am while cooking. And both over 20 years ago. Stealth hidden in the woods is the way to go and hammocks are so much more comfortable. Cheers.
Many thank Ron for sharing your experiences. Ben
Great video sound advice put across very well. We have been wild camping for a few years now and not had any problems, but i think being willing to hike a long way in, above the highest fell gate if possible and not having a fire is key. Just subscribed😊👍
I totally agree. Hiking a way in and investing some time definitely pays off. Many thanks for watching and subscribing. ATB - Ben 👍
Good video dude. Easily the number one reason I fear going wild camping. That embarrassment of being told off, but like you said with common sense and respect your’ll probably going to be fine.
The worst case scenario is you’ve have to apologise and then walk out. If it’s dark and you have to do it (highly unlikely), just know the route out and make sure your head-torch is accessible and ready to go! Ultimately, I truly believe it’s about thorough planning. To alleviate fear further, I would do at least one daylight recce. There comes a point though when you just have to take the plunge! Let me know Ben if you need further ideas or help. Feel free to email me (see channel About section). Thanks - Ben 👍
As an American, I have a hard time understanding those concerns. . . .I have had order trespassers off the property as well as my neighbors. If you are just camping and not disturbing or robbing anyone, I don't understand the problem. Smoking hemp and lighting someone's porch on fire, yes. Just pitching a tent? So, have enough water? Should I bring some by? Do keep an eye out for any strange characters and the screams at night, its just the vixen in heat or a possum.
Here in the states I contact the land owner ( If it's private property ) for permission to camp on their land. Put yourself in the landowners position on trespassers. Respect , Courtesy and Honesty are three keys to getting permission. Always leave no trace that you have been there or as we say , " Take only pictures , leave only footprints ". I hammock camp so I don't even leave a footprint ( Matted Grass , Broken branches ) of a camp. Some of the State owned land requires a phone call ( Or computer reservation ) to the headquarters so they know you will be there , when and for how long. Remember , it's best to ask even if you get turned down then to get arrested for trespassing.
Really interesting hearing an American perspective Chuck. In the UK, trespass is a civil offence rather than a criminal offence. I imagine trespass is treated differently from state to state in the US? I would love wild camp in your country Chuck! Many thanks for watching - Ben 👍🇺🇸🇬🇧
@@benhikescamps... Wild areas , Locally we have the Ocala National Forest and you can camp anywhere in it as long as it's not hunting season. Here in Florida the Florida Trail is 1.300 miles long ( Everglades to the Panhandle ) open for camping while hiking and it goes threw some wild areas. Some spots require permission , The Seminole Indian reservation in south Florida and U.S. Military property in North Florida. Florida Trail membership is required for those areas.
I'm a Brit, nomadic in Europe where wild camping is ok,all the same,your tips are just as pertinent. Thing is, most of the time, if approached, I get invited closer to their homes. (But,then, I do have a bull powered waggon!)
Please tell me which countries in Europe it's allowed?
Great video - I haven't wild camped anywhere it's not allowed by law yet, but plan on doing the two moors way this summer. As a solo female I am a bit nervous about being asked to move on in the middle of the night but reading all the comments on here and on your video makes me think if I choose my spot wisely and engage with anyone who comes and speaks to me I should be ok
Hi Caroline. Thanks for your comments. Have you thought about camping with another female first before doing a solo? There’s also the option of doing a semi/wild camp on permitted land. I have a couple of ideas for that. I’m on Instagram so feel free to message me and I might be able make some suggestions. Thanks and ATB - Ben
Great tips Ben! Like you say mate, there's no point in having it out with someone, it can only make it harder for you and others in the future. I'm yet to be moved on in my time camping, but was very close to being caught in a public access woodland, where a floodlight was aimed in my direction 😬
That sounds like a scene out of The Great Escape Steve! Lol
@@benhikescamps ended up with no fire for the rest of the night 😢
Good advice for beginners, always do a recce 👍👊
Nicely presented film, gives reassurance. Shouldn't need saying but leave absolutely no indication you have been there....even if it takes removing someone else's toot.............
Many thanks for watching and the feedback. Well said on the leave no trace too! 👍
I would agree with your tips, good video 😊👍🏾
I’ve been wild camping for many years, especially in mountain regions and have noticed over the last 3-4 years the increasing incidents of morons lighting fires and leaving rubbish.
As a consequence, more and more land owners are becoming pro active and I’m hearing increasingly of people being moved on, although it hasn’t happened to me yet.
Good advice mate.
Keep your head down, keep your camp tidy, don’t light fires, be respectful if approached and leave no trace.
Agreed Eddy. Thanks for watching.
Thing is in the UK you cant get done by the police for trespassing as its a civil offense and the land owner would have to take you to court. Now this is almost unheard of as they would have to gain evidence & get your personal info (make sure your car or whatever is far away from where you camp). They cant detain you, touch you or take any of your possessions otherwise that's theft and assault and then you can call the police on them. I've been asked to move on in the past and respectfully refused as I had alcohol and it would have been too dangerous to hike at 2am in those conditions. They accepted that and I said I'd be gone at first light and never come back which they were fine with. Yes always be polite but also know your rights and the law and you'll be fine.
you wild camp with a car?
i worked at a summer camp in USA in 2009 taking kids canoe camping down the Conneticut river after a month of non stop rainfall so it was moving quick!! On the last night we decided to wild camp at a portage point but we weren't sure if it belonged to a house the other side of some woods. My American colleague was paranoid to go and ask if we could stop there cos they got guns in America lol so we came in at nightfall and up and on our way at daybreak. Much better than struggling against against the current for our exit point.
Wow, what an adventure. Thanks for watching.
Good tips!! Great video buddy 👍
Many thanks.
I once woke up on white Edge Moor (Peak District) on the very edge next to a path at 11 in the morning I over slept that morning 🤣🤣 the place was full of people but no one cared, a few came up to have a chat.
People are generally just curious or think we're odd so leave us alone.
I think you're right @GodAtum.
Ah, we're right friendly in't Peak District!!
@@migranthawker2952 I've never had an issue when going out in the Peaks, even with the rangers that realise I'm camping once they realise your responsible and not setting fires and leaving litter about.
Cheers Ben, Good solid advice. Thank you :)
My pleasure!
Great advice ! Here where I am near Ottawa Canada it’s pretty much the same. Overall I think you just have to be smart about it. Problem is since Covid started a lot more people are “going in the woods” and leaving rubbish and burning trees. People like that spoil it for others. Hopefully when Covid gets under control those people will stay out of the woods. Thanks for sharing. Take care and stay safe.
Agree about being smart about it. Thanks for watching.
Never been found or asked to move yet. Came close last night, because the was somebody (guessing the land owner) patrolling the woods with a quadbike around 10:30 in the evening. They got within about 100 meters but did not see me.
You're the king of stealth JB I have to say. I'd be shocked if anyone found you!
@@benhikescamps It will happen someday, I am getting old. 😂
Excellent advice. Thank you.
A pleasure. Thanks.
I like your photography pitch. Mine is in doing nature and wildlife sound recording. In actual fact I have a field recorder and mic with me so I am also telling the truth. I usually give my SoundCloud name to them so they can listen for themselves.
Very sound advice. Thank you Ben
Wise words bro😎👌👏..... #leavenotrace😉
Nice little vid Ben... I still get those nerves wild camping. Especially in woodland
Thanks for sharing buddy
Ash
Never fully goes away does it Ash! Thanks mate. Hope you and family well.
Well said - great video
Thanks Mark.
Some really good point there Ben covers that topic well looked like u were having a nice walk in wot looked to me like Battersea park I may be wrong though lol
Thanks Paul! Victoria Park 😉 ATB mate - Ben
@@benhikescamps ahh few miles out then lol
Got me thinking.
I wonder how many people “wild camp” overnight in England - let us say, in the middle of summer? It would be interesting to know.
And that includes those who have no choice otherwise.
Don't have a massive bright colour tent have something like a camo basha because it's smaller harder to see and quicker to pack up and move if there's a lot of movement around. Also don't make a fire
Some good valid points there.
May I suggest to learn up every thing u can regarding the laws of trespass very hard for the land owner to prove especially if u did not cross a visible fence or wall and the law states they Have to have very strong belief ( not proof ) that you went with the intension to remove goods / and or property .
If challenged be polite always be polite and above all listen to what they are saying ,prior to your visit they may have had several wild camps of drunken kids building fires and leaving litter and damage and you - as polite as you are may ve the straw that broke the... etc etc and the warden may be a bit jumpy ' if you genuinely are knackered or its getting dark politely state this but firmly you are injured u are exausted it is too dark to move they can call the police who have far better things to do an if they turn out they will normally take your side and simply ask as soon as you can in the morning move on .
All this I know from experience up here in Yorkshire they are employing former soldiers dug in the ground with thermal image equipment !
Always ALWAYS learn about lambing times and cattle breeding and avoid these areas at all cost the land owners will only repect our rights if we respect their way of life .
Thanks for watching.
There are some woods around a park near me that I go to often for 'day camping'. I build very small fires for cooking (grilling is allowed at this park) on a small rock slab that I built, with a low wall around it. Often my fires smoke like a chimney for quite a while (I'm not a great fire maker), but no one has ever approached me or investigated whether the forest is on fire lol. Not even police, whom I've seen at a distance in the park a few times. I was thinking about possibly doing an overnighter sometime in this spot, because it's not a bad spot. However, today, as I was sitting eating my chicken in the glorious dappled sunlight, I heard some rustling in the brush behind me several times. I kept watch to see what it was, and all of a sudden this HUGE rat heads toward me!! I threw a stick at him and he ran away, for a few minutes, then came toward me (and presumably my chicken) again. Of all the issues I thought I might have wild camping in an urban park, i.e. police, vagrants, drunk teenagers, etc, it NEVER occurred to me that the thing that would be a problem was rats!! So, needless-to-say, I won't be camping there, hahahaha. Thank you for the tips and reassurance about dealing with people. Got any suggestions for rats? :)
Wow, what a story! Thanks for watching :)
Hi I camped once next to a fishing lake and had the same problem. No doubt looking for scraps left behind.
Suggestions for rats? I find a nice thyme and lemon marinade, grilled over hot coals until the skin goes crispy, works best for me.
@@simonh6371 lol
I've heard in places like the peak district the landowners are sending out people on quadbikes with heat vision cameras quite late to find people and move them on because over lockdown apparently lots of new people have been doing wild camping with no regard for leave no trace etiquette.
I have heard this too.
We've had this in the Lakes. People leave behind entire camping kits, including tents!
The problem with "arrive late, leave early" is that local park rangers are on lookout for people carrying camping gear at those times. In contrast, a backpacker during the day is more common as there could be campsites nearby or a hotel.
In my experience, I’ve never seen landowners or farmers looking for campers late at night or 5am in the morning. I think they work hard and just want a rest at those times. That’s just my experience. Never had any issues with that approach. Would never pitch up in the middle of the day in the Uk.
@@benhikescamps ah, I live in The Netherlands and nature is being guarded by park rangers, because we have so little of it. I've never been caught myself, but I have seen them drive around at those times.
Wouldn't want to camp on a Dutch farmer's field. Way too boring; just endless grass with little to no shade.
I guess it's all about establishing trust. There's people who are responsible and others who are idiots, light fires and make a mess. Maybe the good ones should help report the bad ones.
Iits the 'Benidorm 'set thay have caused this they have taken to camping it will pass when things get back to normal
Enjoyed the video! Liked and subscribed. Come over the US sometime and go camping! My thru-hiker friends Dixie and Daisy would say the PCT is great! Personally, I am not a thru-hiker but a bushcrafter, prepper, and fisherman and since I live in Virginia, the AT would be more my speed (no deserts no high mountains). Laters ma dudes!
Many thanks for watching and welcome to the channel. Lots of American subscribers now! 👍🇺🇸
I have to be honest and say I am not afraid of the dark, or camping alone as a woman. I AM afraid of being moved on, because I would be terrified of being told off by a complete stranger. South Cambs has precious few places that I can camp and even less woodland.
Greetings from south Cambs!
I think fires are the big fear of landowners but also things like tent pegs or other litter left behind that might cause issues for grazing. For the camper you might want to be wary of fields that have cattle in that might trample your tent or be protective of their young. A farmer might fill his field with such at any time without warning.
True.
My MO, walk in and walk out. Pitch up at dusk at the earliest. Be gone no later than 30 min after sunrise. No fires, no smelly food and no getting rat arsed or blaring music. If you want to do any messing about, getting bladdered etc just go on a proper campsite. Too many wild campers are lazy, walk 20m off the path and pitch up a 6 man tent and start with a full BBQ with Rihanna blasting! Then wonder why the old bill or land owners get annoyed.
Well said.
I went to a Forestry Commission camp site once with a couple of friends and was told they don't want gangs. Another time I went to another by myself and they said its a family site and don't want single men lurking.
If you can see a farm you can ask for permission to camp. In my experience mostly it will be granted.
Any light weight camper is welcome to camp on my farm.
Great video -- thanks. Trespass, unless on educational premises, railway property, protected sites etc., is a civil offence and the police will not usually attend. All the landowner can do is get your details and take you to court -- that isn't likely to happen if you are polite and contrite as advised here.
Many thanks for your thoughts there Stephen and for watching. ATB - Ben
good sound sensible advice ... !!
Thanks Kevin.
Good advice after nearly a thousand years.
Thanks for watching.
Great video - just discovered your channel on my feed. Subbed 👍Ben
Many thanks Ben. Welcome to the channel. ATB - Ben
Have also subbed you mate. Forgot to mention! Really liking your tutorial vids around apps.
A great first line whilst maintaining a bewildered expression on your face is to quietly whisper:
I got a knife.
Great wise advice !
Thanks 👍
i took my kids to blue lake above fairbourne (old quarry) where i use to go as a kid...after telling them how good it would be and taking our stuff up i was gutted to find that due to litter and twats the owner took bout 10 tonne of stone up and a digger and plugged the tunnel u needed to access the pool.
Spoilt the day a little but reading up i understand completely.
Do not understand why people leave crap on mountains.....especially banana peel
I hate that I had to watch this but it worked. Hahah thanks!!!
I have a,4 man beach tent and I followed ur good advice but my problem is when i let go of my knees to move my foot tocover two holes ,it just springsback up !!o dear Tent too long for me
Great advice Mate👍
Many thanks
Good general advice. My fear is that there has been such an increase in wild camping (both the responsible and the irresponsible kind), plus so much of it being posted on media for all to see, that regulation is not far away. Currently wild camping is usually just a tolerated unlawful activity (in most of England & Wales), but I see the criminal law being brought to bear, permits being required for National Parks hiking, 'approved' routes and campsites, a growing army of petty enforcers, much like in other parts of the world.....and all in the name of conservation, 'elf'n'safety, diversity, etc etc
add in 'sustainability' and re wilding etc...and yeah pleasurable non harmful activities done by responsible people will become harder to do sadly.
I fully get that lighting a raging open fire, made from twigs and branches, is a very bad idea when wild camping..but is it generally ok to fire-up a little camping stove..for a quick brew?
Absolutely Suneel.
@@benhikescamps That's good to know...I need my coffee😉
In the wrong conditions even a hot camping stove or sparks from it can start a leaf/grass/heather fire. Farmers are aware of this and worry about it, so consider the dryness conditions.
Some good tips in there Ben, was that Victoria park?! Hope you’re keeping well mate, Si
Yes, good old Vicky Park! Thanks Simon. Take care - Ben 👍
@@benhikescamps thought I recognised it! Lovely one
@@benhikescamps Victoria Park, eh? I have never camped there.. but we did scatter my Mum's and Dad's ashes there. Yeah.. :-)
I have been wild camping in the vast majority of the European countries for 44 years and never had to move on or any trouble. Just do your thing without any worries, but be discrete and leave no trace.
Sadly the vast majority of European countries have a much saner legal situation when it comes to wild camping than England and Wales, especially with the new rules in the Policing Bill currently working through parliament where it shifts from a simple civil matter (already difficult compared to Scotland or most of Europe) to a criminal matter where equipment can be seized.
What do you think of how it's all stepped up now with the reports from the Peaks and Wales?
The hot spots are clearly being watched very closely by rangers. I would just avoid all of those areas and be very smart in how you wild camp generally.
A bit of recon always helps, but that usually isn't possible in areas you are visiting for the first time with all your gear in tow. Always scope out local areas though. I tend to try and pick spots that are well covered (easier once the leaves return) and if possible, a lot of hard work to reach. It may sound obvious but newcomers must also pick colours that blend in, I use only green and/or camo etc,...for that reason.
I recently found a spot that has a lake in front of me and a high fenced off railway behind - to reach it requires moving through the dense thicket and therefore is not somewhere either humans or animals would likely tread. So there's an example of how I try to prevent myself from being discovered.
Great ideas Sand. Thanks.
HI, nice vid ben
Hi Lance! New channel name I see! Thanks for watching and hope all well.
Yes all great thank you for asking. Lance into wild camping was just a temporary one. Liked the play on words with one
Ive never wild camped before, if i did i think i would stick to public access land and be discreet and respectful
That sounds like a good plan.
When you say, do not have a fire does that include something like a trangia stove to heat water or a stew or something like that? Thanks, great video, much appreciated.
Hi there. Personally, I wouldn't regard a Trangia spirit burner as a fire. I've used it many times. Thanks for watching.
@@benhikescamps Thanks for the reply, subscribed.
just think how dry vegetation is before you do it. a spark or just the hot metal when you finish could be enough