While I'm a MSFS user only, it's great to see a view of the competition landscape, to re-confirm that MSFS is an incredible immersive experience that can rarely be approached. Thanks for all you do AUS, you're a flight sim legend.
The notions that XP has better flight simulation is just a notion. It maybe valid in the past but XP12 seems still uses Blade element theory. This flight dynamics calculating tech is pretty old. Haven't found CFD visualisation option. P-Factor with Perf. Data on MSFS more accurate there. MSFS in the other hand has CFD, which you can actually see the simulation and simulated surfaces on the airplane. XP maybe using 5 simulated surfaces on an airplane and MSFS uses hundreds of simulation surfaces in an aircraft, thus makes it more accurate and realistic. Here's the CFD simulation in visual and data form. And I would like to see XP to provide with their simulation data as well. ua-cam.com/video/Ndl07_7PsWg/v-deo.html
@@hpharold23 CTRL +m to cycle the forces model in XP. Also CFD actually isn’t fully modelled in MSFS. Sorry to bust your bubble and speech. Most devs are not using it fully and whilst CFD provides a more accurate model in comparison to BET it’s not a large variation that any person would comprehend in flight physics or notice. Most 3rd party devs are still struggling to get the flight modelling to be accurate in msfs which I’ll refer you to PMDG, Fenix and many others public available posts. A2A who can be regarded as probably one of the most accurate study level devs from FSX and P3D has struggled massively to get accurate data to translate into msfs and the SDK still has parts under construction which asobo are yet to open up. And not to mention the proof of this with there being a huge lack of right rudder on rotate in many aircraft in msfs. SR22 is very much my case in point. And the default king air has been tested by many KA350i real world pilots all of whom have stated the same thing. No the KA350 doesn’t fly anything like this.
Great stuff Shane. MSFS 2020 certainly brought back to life my love for aviation and being able to experience it's full capabilities and realisism and through your live streams even on Xbox has been truly awsome. Cheers ...
The notions that XP has better flight simulation is just a notion. It maybe valid in the past but XP12 seems still uses Blade element theory. This flight dynamics calculating tech is pretty old. Haven't found CFD visualisation option. P-Factor with Perf. Data on MSFS more accurate there. MSFS in the other hand has CFD, which you can actually see the simulation and simulated surfaces on the airplane. XP maybe using 5 simulated surfaces on an airplane and MSFS uses hundreds of simulation surfaces in an aircraft, thus makes it more accurate and realistic. Here's the CFD simulation in visual and data form. And I would like to see XP to provide with their simulation data as well. ua-cam.com/video/Ndl07_7PsWg/v-deo.html
The only flight sims that aren't boring AF are DCS and IL2. How you don't have IL2 on here just stretches credibility. Sitting in a plane watching clouds go by is something I'll do if I'm ever in a wheelchair maybe. The new MSFS may be better if it gets the 'missions' right...at least there will be something to do.
I'm a DCS guy and i though the same thing you do. However I would strongly recommend you trash that thought process. I have msfs ans I primarily fly the 747 as I love it. I also do vatsim. That Is very difficult to get bored unless you do long flights. I do 2-5 hour flights on vatsim. On vatsim you must create flight plans talk with atc aka real people that play as atc get taxi clearances follow flight plans exactly how real life pilots do it. It's extremely fun. Then there are also extremely fun airports that you can fly into. My favorite is VNKD aka kathmandu. The approach to land is between 2 mountains. The airstrip high begins at 9000 feet above sea level. The top of the runway is approximately 11000 feet. That approach is tons of fun. Obviously you don't take 747 or even an a320 but smaller plans are great to take in there. Especially I'm VR it's fun. Yes I would re-think your idea of msfs if I were you.
@@ryanbarbosa3220 I played it when I had game pass...got bored very quickly. All that stuff you mentioned doesn't really interest me. It's just a bunch of mission planning really.
If you were actually interested in learning about real world aviation, you would be doing more things than just watching the clouds go by. There is a lot to learn come at a lot to keep you busy.
For the Alpha release showcases of MSFS 2020 to the current state of the nation across the competitors great comparisons without fear or favor. Keep up the great work!!
I have both of the top 2 games and personally, the combat in DCS is better than anything I can think of in MSFS. Formation flying, crash physics, armaments, etc. makes it #1 for me but obviously a game like MSFS is WAY better for anyone interested in anything but warplanes.
Good to see P3DV5 in the no 4 slot. With ASN and ORBX True Earths for UK I think it offers a much better VFR simulation of UK, and a much crisper and realistic representation of UK weather than MSFS or XPlane do.
I love DCS to this day. The problem is that it can be very hard for new players to get started. This can be especially true of multiplayer. But once you get into the community, there's nothing like it.
Good Video. In my own humble opinion, FSX is No.1, DCS is No.2. All other simulators are great and wonderful, but nothing comes close to the old but venerable FSX. In the end, nothing compares to flying actual airplanes in real life. Simulation excels in the areas of mastering aircraft systems (simulation) and for entertainment. A well moded FSX still meets and exceed those objectives
WARNING - AeroFly FS4 lacks 'many' of the features like ATC and full weather found in other flight simulators. The detailed sections of the world are extremely limited, too. And also, unlike the other flight simulators, you will find that your investment in purchased 3th-party DLC for AeroFly FS(x) will not be usuable in newer versions of AeroFly FS(x). Long-term receptive (to customers) support is also lacklustered. Features talked about for FS2 never came to fruition, which does not bode well for the future of FS4 or trust in the developer/publisher. Apart from looking 'pretty', it falls far short of the potential of MSFS, X-Plane and PrePar3D and offers lesser value for your investment.
Holt shit DCS is expensive, last time I looked they wanted $3,000 for every thing (all maps and planes) I knew some game where outrageous but shit that's a lot
And that's true. Xplane still has slightly better physics. But in a general aspect the two are pretty much tied with each other. They are not at all as superior as some would have us believe. It is true that when msfs2020 came out its physics were quite inferior and it was quite noticeable. But today, in the year 2024, things are very different. And wait for the older brother to come out. *msfs24*
Are the flight lengths simulated to be realistic, or are they condensed for sake of attention span? I can't imagine somebody parking in front of their computers for 18 hours straight on a trans-pacific flight. LOL
This video said very little about DCS, when flying from the cockpit, ( the pilot's seat ). Most of what was shown, were external views of all the military aircraft DCS offers. Can someone please tell me more about DCS cockpit views, ( internal ), from the pilot's seat? From inside the cockpit? Thanks....
Depends on your system but the cockpit on high fidelity aircraft is usually extremely detailed and looks beautiful, if your system is good enough the outside from the cockpit can also look good as well (This is in case you are doing low altitude missions) and different objects such as powerlines and buildings are fully modelled. The lighting in DCS is also amazing especially around 5:00PM in cockpit view.
If you can run at 4K 60Hz there isn't a better view especially with the HUD in many of the AC and Helos. Plus you can plan real missions which test you in the different aircraft in 3 different eras WWII, cold war and modern. The only sim that shows the Hornet and other carrier based aircraft to their full value imo.
@@zorbakaput8537 Thanks, but I'm asking about control inputs? Using the cockpit flight controls, and electronic navigation equipment in the cockpit. How does DCS compare to MSFS, and X Plane, with regard to those categories?
@@Lightning_studios437 Thanks. I have a high end, PC desktop. I was partially asking about graphics, ( appearance ), but more importantly, I was wondering about buttons, switches, and their functionality in the cockpit. Thanks so much for your responses. Quite helpful.
Fidelity for switches and cockpit functionality, flight dynamics there is a two parts to DCS. Most stand alone models are study level and most switches are functional(some secret functions are not perfectly modelled for obvious reasons). Being a Pilot, my subjective feeling is that flight dynamics and the feel of the aircraft in DCS are superior to X--plane, and X-plane is not the "king" of flight dynamics. Actually X-plane is rather deterministic and very poor in low speed/stall situations. Cockpits are well modelled but the terrain is.... sqaure grid and flat vs curved which means it is kind of odd using real life plates at some airport on the map. Note that most military aircraft doesnt have RNAV capability (Hopefully the C-130J will have) so most approaches if you want fly those will be RBSN, ILS, TCN, ICLS, and for some aircraft VOR. The systems are fuctional and work as well and work on a satisfactory level. all switches and buttons in the aircraft can be switched to appropriate conditions. If you place the wrong switch in the wrong conidtions, you may encounter issues as appropriate. EXCEPTION there is a series of aircraft that have simplified avionics (Non-clickable cockpit) These are the Flaming Cliffs (FC3) models. VR is where it really shines. TO be honest it is THE benchmark for VR controllers, MSFS could learn alot from how inputs are handled.
Do you know if there is going to be another eurofighter typhoon into the flight sim because the one now doesn’t get updated and updates could make it so much better
The notions that XP has better flight simulation is just a notion. It maybe valid in the past but XP12 seems still uses Blade element theory. This flight dynamics calculating tech is pretty old. Haven't found CFD visualisation option. P-Factor with Perf. Data on MSFS more accurate there. MSFS in the other hand has CFD, which you can actually see the simulation and simulated surfaces on the airplane. XP maybe using 5 simulated surfaces on an airplane and MSFS uses hundreds of simulation surfaces in an aircraft, thus makes it more accurate and realistic. Here's the CFD simulation in visual and data form. And I would like to see XP to provide with their simulation data as well. ua-cam.com/video/Ndl07_7PsWg/v-deo.html
Unfortunately MSFS is totally hamstrung for me by the archaic, non-intuitive replay system, so much so that I reluctantly uninstalled it about 9 months ago, I now only fly DCS.
I don’t need an UA-camr’s questionably ‘independent’ opinion to tell me which flight sim I need to enjoy. DCS is relaxed…?? 😂 yeah right! Those must have been some powerful tranquillisers you were taking I can jump into the cockpit of Microsoft Simulator and just take off and land without much introduction at all DCS took me days to start up cold and months to completely understand and master ALL the weapons and avionics That’s ALL the convincing I EVER needed as to which was more challenging and realistic. Some of the SimPits people are building for DCS almost border on being a security concern.
I’d put DCS at no.1 myself really all MSFS has over it is the world scale map and terrain graphics its good and 2024 could push it to no.1 but the flight models just aren’t anywhere near as good imho (I own both btw)
The notions that XP has better flight simulation is just a notion. It maybe valid in the past but XP12 seems still uses Blade element theory. This flight dynamics calculating tech is pretty old. Haven't found CFD visualisation option. P-Factor with Perf. Data on MSFS more accurate there. MSFS in the other hand has CFD, which you can actually see the simulation and simulated surfaces on the airplane. XP maybe using 5 simulated surfaces on an airplane and MSFS uses hundreds of simulation surfaces in an aircraft, thus makes it more accurate and realistic. Here's the CFD simulation in visual and data form. And I would like to see XP to provide with their simulation data as well. ua-cam.com/video/Ndl07_7PsWg/v-deo.html
Im tired of msfs ctd’s. Gave it 250g of space and days worth of downloading time. When it works it is great, but during flight it has one stutter then on the desktop really bugs
MSFS might be prettier....but DCS is a better sim and Eagle Dynamics are a true David to Microsoft's Goliath. So, it's very impressive to see DCS be what it is.
@@BooliusGoozlur Yes, of course, but one can be used for combat and the other cannot. The other can carry out commercial aviation operations and the other cannot. It makes no sense to compare them.
@@burgadahz17 I fly the UH-1H Huey with no weapons....the P-51 with no weapons and both sims have the FA-18. So, when I just compare the experience there is a large difference in quality. I think that my conclusion is that if DCS had any commercial aircraft, if they ever take the time to do such a thing, it will be a vastly better experience. It is far less clunky and the flight models feel superior in the aircraft I have used. However, MSFS does shine in certain areas and I know that in other areas there can't really be a one to one comparison. But at the end of the day, they are indeed both flight sims and I disagree that you can't compare them at all. I can also compare the user interfaces and controls settings and DCS has MSFS beat there by a country mile as well.
@@BooliusGoozlur Yeah, but DCS doesn't have that. And do you think that if Asobo were to add aircraft combat to Microsoft Flight Simulator, they wouldn't do it right? I'll repeat it to you as many times as necessary, there's no point in comparing the two to see which one is better. It's like comparing Gran Turismo with Forza Horizon 5.Both are car games but the purposes that each of the two seek are extremely different. One seeks to have a more realistic driving experience. And the other gives you the experience To be able to explore a large-scale open world. One is not worse than the other because the two pursue extremely different purposes from each other. It would be very unfair to criticize one of the other.
Technically both however dcs has weapons and you can watch your friend fall to the earth as a flaming wreck. Unless you slap him with a fox 3 at 80 miles
Sorry to read you don’t have any ground service and traffic. I don’t have any add ons and have full ground service’s and traffic, depending on the airport.
@@TPHI17 Here what strange... I have reloaded Flight Simulator 4 times and Ground Services is there... When I power down and re-open Flight Simulator again, all the Ground Services is Lost again...
In my opinion, the three companies of X-Plane - DCS - MS Flight Simulator are all tied for first place. The reason is that the damaged building scenes that appear when flying low altitude helicopters in MS Flight Simulator are still not resolved - these problems have not been resolved by MS. I admit that MS is first if it solves the problem. On the other hand, X-Plane's building scene shows everything well in three dimensions even at low altitudes, and DCS has a fatal disadvantage in that it has limited flight space.
Putting MSFS above DCS is a shame from the sim side. You can say it has more to offer because of more civilian aircraft and landscapes but DCS offers more in terms of anything military so that is subjective. But just as a pure simulator of flying DCS 100% is the winner. The United States Air Force and other militaries use DCS to train real pilots, no one in history will use MFS to train real pilots
What you say doesn't make any sense. Because the DCS simulator is only adapted for fighter jets. Obviously it is true that the MSFS fighter jets are not better than those of the DCS ones. But here's the important thing. There's no point in comparing them. But the purpose of msfs is directly for commercial aircraft, not for fighter aircraft. Both have extremely different goals. Do you think DCS would have good physics for commercial aircraft? Exactly. It doesn't make sense.
For you, I guess. Because it's extremely subjective. And even more so with a simulator that seeks such a specific purpose as just modern militar y aviation.
Reviewer is taken in by a vulgar ‘Scenery Simulator’. The *convincing feel* of a plane in flight is my top priority and the blade element theory Xplane stuff doesn’t seem to translate into simulating *real world* _feel._ Aerofly gets basic aeroplane feel quite good or better some of the time but it can be update dependent and recently they are slow fixing reported bugs.
MSFS is the biggest joke - I purchased it earlier this year and after a while of not playing, but keeping my Microsoft account on auto update I recently discovered that one of my hard drives suddenly gained a lot of space then I felt like playing my game again and lo and behold, the game deleted all the files uploaded and basically all my game content was gone after an automatic update. So yeah, I will never support a microsoft flight simulator game again, since they have no premise for a refund under these conditions Pathetic if you ask me
very unhelpful video ...i came here to find a plane game that i could play with my big bro he has been stressful of late coz of marriage job loan stuff...i could find anything useful only got to hear how good they are or how their trailers looked
I was fan of flight simulator and got so disappointed at FS2020. So many bugs and errors and so many unimplemented control panels. And they announced to release FS2024!!!! R U KIDDING?
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The feeling of flight in DCS is simply unmatched.
Agreed
DCS is 162 GB
@@chickenwings6172 just buy more memory if this is a problem.
It's very subjective. Plus, it's only for combat, nothing more.
For me it’s - MSFS2020 for civilian aviation use, IL2 Great Battles series for WWI and WW2 aircraft combat and DCS World for military jet combat.
Thankyou
I adore DCS world and even today it still blows me away and forces me to learn new things
While I'm a MSFS user only, it's great to see a view of the competition landscape, to re-confirm that MSFS is an incredible immersive experience that can rarely be approached. Thanks for all you do AUS, you're a flight sim legend.
Glad you enjoyed it! Cheers Brett.
The notions that XP has better flight simulation is just a notion. It maybe valid in the past but XP12 seems still uses Blade element theory. This flight dynamics calculating tech is pretty old. Haven't found CFD visualisation option. P-Factor with Perf. Data on MSFS more accurate there. MSFS in the other hand has CFD, which you can actually see the simulation and simulated surfaces on the airplane. XP maybe using 5 simulated surfaces on an airplane and MSFS uses hundreds of simulation surfaces in an aircraft, thus makes it more accurate and realistic.
Here's the CFD simulation in visual and data form. And I would like to see XP to provide with their simulation data as well.
ua-cam.com/video/Ndl07_7PsWg/v-deo.html
@@hpharold23 now you've posted this multiple times, can you go and delete your comments on other people's replies and just leave your own comment?
@@hpharold23 CTRL +m to cycle the forces model in XP.
Also CFD actually isn’t fully modelled in MSFS. Sorry to bust your bubble and speech.
Most devs are not using it fully and whilst CFD provides a more accurate model in comparison to BET it’s not a large variation that any person would comprehend in flight physics or notice.
Most 3rd party devs are still struggling to get the flight modelling to be accurate in msfs which I’ll refer you to PMDG, Fenix and many others public available posts.
A2A who can be regarded as probably one of the most accurate study level devs from FSX and P3D has struggled massively to get accurate data to translate into msfs and the SDK still has parts under construction which asobo are yet to open up.
And not to mention the proof of this with there being a huge lack of right rudder on rotate in many aircraft in msfs.
SR22 is very much my case in point.
And the default king air has been tested by many KA350i real world pilots all of whom have stated the same thing. No the KA350 doesn’t fly anything like this.
Great stuff Shane. MSFS 2020 certainly brought back to life my love for aviation and being able to experience it's full capabilities and realisism and through your live streams even on Xbox has been truly awsome. Cheers ...
Thanks Anthony. Cheers
The notions that XP has better flight simulation is just a notion. It maybe valid in the past but XP12 seems still uses Blade element theory. This flight dynamics calculating tech is pretty old. Haven't found CFD visualisation option. P-Factor with Perf. Data on MSFS more accurate there. MSFS in the other hand has CFD, which you can actually see the simulation and simulated surfaces on the airplane. XP maybe using 5 simulated surfaces on an airplane and MSFS uses hundreds of simulation surfaces in an aircraft, thus makes it more accurate and realistic.
Here's the CFD simulation in visual and data form. And I would like to see XP to provide with their simulation data as well.
ua-cam.com/video/Ndl07_7PsWg/v-deo.html
dcs is better bro :(
The only flight sims that aren't boring AF are DCS and IL2. How you don't have IL2 on here just stretches credibility. Sitting in a plane watching clouds go by is something I'll do if I'm ever in a wheelchair maybe. The new MSFS may be better if it gets the 'missions' right...at least there will be something to do.
I'm a DCS guy and i though the same thing you do. However I would strongly recommend you trash that thought process. I have msfs ans I primarily fly the 747 as I love it. I also do vatsim. That Is very difficult to get bored unless you do long flights. I do 2-5 hour flights on vatsim. On vatsim you must create flight plans talk with atc aka real people that play as atc get taxi clearances follow flight plans exactly how real life pilots do it. It's extremely fun. Then there are also extremely fun airports that you can fly into. My favorite is VNKD aka kathmandu. The approach to land is between 2 mountains. The airstrip high begins at 9000 feet above sea level. The top of the runway is approximately 11000 feet. That approach is tons of fun. Obviously you don't take 747 or even an a320 but smaller plans are great to take in there. Especially I'm VR it's fun. Yes I would re-think your idea of msfs if I were you.
@@ryanbarbosa3220 I played it when I had game pass...got bored very quickly. All that stuff you mentioned doesn't really interest me. It's just a bunch of mission planning really.
If you were actually interested in learning about real world aviation, you would be doing more things than just watching the clouds go by. There is a lot to learn come at a lot to keep you busy.
DCS is number 1, by far the best flight sim to ever exist
Naw too hard
Yea I ain't gon spend 3 years learning how to fly a Cessna.
Only for Combat
:)) just learn a module it’s actually mentality rewarding.
You forgot msfs
DCS is for any time of the week and three times on Sunday.
Can you play it on an Xbox 5?
For the Alpha release showcases of MSFS 2020 to the current state of the nation across the competitors great comparisons without fear or favor. Keep up the great work!!
I have both of the top 2 games and personally, the combat in DCS is better than anything I can think of in MSFS. Formation flying, crash physics, armaments, etc. makes it #1 for me but obviously a game like MSFS is WAY better for anyone interested in anything but warplanes.
Good to see P3DV5 in the no 4 slot.
With ASN and ORBX True Earths for UK I think it offers a much better VFR simulation of UK, and a much crisper and realistic representation of UK weather than MSFS or XPlane do.
I have xplane and msfs and I must admit I prefer the xplane flight mechanics better
Cheers, thanks for the comment.
is it paid
Thanks Shane for the update.
Cheers, Joseph
I see glaring omission: Falcon BMS.
I love DCS to this day. The problem is that it can be very hard for new players to get started. This can be especially true of multiplayer. But once you get into the community, there's nothing like it.
Where is Falcon BMS?
Good job, I finally got a moment to sit down and watch this. I was not aware of #5 so now I feel like I have learnt something.
I have MS2020 and DCS on my gaming laptop and can't see any reason to put any others on there.
Good Video.
In my own humble opinion, FSX is No.1, DCS is No.2. All other simulators are great and wonderful, but nothing comes close to the old but venerable FSX.
In the end, nothing compares to flying actual airplanes in real life. Simulation excels in the areas of mastering aircraft systems (simulation) and for entertainment. A well moded FSX still meets and exceed those objectives
ive would have put il2 grate battles at number 4
Thanks for checking out the video.
WARNING - AeroFly FS4 lacks 'many' of the features like ATC and full weather found in other flight simulators. The detailed sections of the world are extremely limited, too. And also, unlike the other flight simulators, you will find that your investment in purchased 3th-party DLC for AeroFly FS(x) will not be usuable in newer versions of AeroFly FS(x). Long-term receptive (to customers) support is also lacklustered. Features talked about for FS2 never came to fruition, which does not bode well for the future of FS4 or trust in the developer/publisher.
Apart from looking 'pretty', it falls far short of the potential of MSFS, X-Plane and PrePar3D and offers lesser value for your investment.
Not to get it mixed: “Stop with Camel” is a potential slogan for a cigarette brand, while Sopwith Camel is a legendary WWI plane.
We need update one which planes have the best footrests.
Of course we do!!!!!
Holt shit DCS is expensive, last time I looked they wanted $3,000 for every thing (all maps and planes) I knew some game where outrageous but shit that's a lot
$3,000 ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
Dear God MSFS needs a career mode
I think you might see one in 2024 sim release.
Funny you should say that
@@SoltyJ I know, I genuinely can't believe where they're taking the simulator. We couldn't have asked for more!
One Word.
*Msfs24*
No mention of IL-2 :(
@@clutchthecinnamonsergal8493 define flight simulator then.
Awesome! 🛩right up my taxiway 😅
Thanks Sammo!!!!!
New subscriber thanks to your awesome tier video. I love flight sims and going to try out both DCS & MSFS. 👍 & subbed.
Welcome aboard! Thanks for subbing.
Hey did you ever get into DCS World?
There's another, very convincing UA-cam demo showing similar flight mechanics of X-Plane 12 and MSFS in the latest updates.
And that's true. Xplane still has slightly better physics. But in a general aspect the two are pretty much tied with each other. They are not at all as superior as some would have us believe.
It is true that when msfs2020 came out its physics were quite inferior and it was quite noticeable. But today, in the year 2024, things are very different.
And wait for the older brother to come out. *msfs24*
Great review thanks Shane 👍
Thank you Zenon.
Are the flight lengths simulated to be realistic, or are they condensed for sake of attention span? I can't imagine somebody parking in front of their computers for 18 hours straight on a trans-pacific flight. LOL
Yes 1-1 of the world.
This video said very little about DCS, when flying from the cockpit, ( the pilot's seat ). Most of what was shown, were external views of all the military aircraft DCS offers. Can someone please tell me more about DCS cockpit views, ( internal ), from the pilot's seat? From inside the cockpit? Thanks....
Depends on your system but the cockpit on high fidelity aircraft is usually extremely detailed and looks beautiful, if your system is good enough the outside from the cockpit can also look good as well (This is in case you are doing low altitude missions) and different objects such as powerlines and buildings are fully modelled. The lighting in DCS is also amazing especially around 5:00PM in cockpit view.
If you can run at 4K 60Hz there isn't a better view especially with the HUD in many of the AC and Helos. Plus you can plan real missions which test you in the different aircraft in 3 different eras WWII, cold war and modern. The only sim that shows the Hornet and other carrier based aircraft to their full value imo.
@@zorbakaput8537 Thanks, but I'm asking about control inputs? Using the cockpit flight controls, and electronic navigation equipment in the cockpit. How does DCS compare to MSFS, and X Plane, with regard to those categories?
@@Lightning_studios437 Thanks. I have a high end, PC desktop. I was partially asking about graphics, ( appearance ), but more importantly, I was wondering about buttons, switches, and their functionality in the cockpit. Thanks so much for your responses. Quite helpful.
Fidelity for switches and cockpit functionality, flight dynamics there is a two parts to DCS. Most stand alone models are study level and most switches are functional(some secret functions are not perfectly modelled for obvious reasons). Being a Pilot, my subjective feeling is that flight dynamics and the feel of the aircraft in DCS are superior to X--plane, and X-plane is not the "king" of flight dynamics. Actually X-plane is rather deterministic and very poor in low speed/stall situations. Cockpits are well modelled but the terrain is.... sqaure grid and flat vs curved which means it is kind of odd using real life plates at some airport on the map. Note that most military aircraft doesnt have RNAV capability (Hopefully the C-130J will have) so most approaches if you want fly those will be RBSN, ILS, TCN, ICLS, and for some aircraft VOR. The systems are fuctional and work as well and work on a satisfactory level. all switches and buttons in the aircraft can be switched to appropriate conditions. If you place the wrong switch in the wrong conidtions, you may encounter issues as appropriate.
EXCEPTION there is a series of aircraft that have simplified avionics (Non-clickable cockpit) These are the Flaming Cliffs (FC3) models.
VR is where it really shines. TO be honest it is THE benchmark for VR controllers, MSFS could learn alot from how inputs are handled.
Another Great Video Shane! Keep up the good work.
Thanks! Will do! Thanks Mark.
Great watch as always mate.
Thanks for the visit
Sad that MSFS freezes every time i try to install it, purchased it both on xbox and steam, nothing works :(
That will happen to you. Because the simulator works like a charm for me.
I have msfs and the graphic details don't look as good as yours. Is is on a 4k ? Monitor, etc Great all round Demo of yes goto be top 5.. cheers
These are kind of videos i like!!
Cheers, thanks Mike.
@@AusFlightSimmer good video Captain.
LOL the very best is missing
That damn DCS costs roughly 3200 EURO! WTF? Is that normal???
Falcon BMS = free and is superior to dcs in many ways.
DCS looks very cool, but when I download it on steam it won't even launch
Do you know if there is going to be another eurofighter typhoon into the flight sim because the one now doesn’t get updated and updates could make it so much better
CJ simulations just released one yesterday on Justflight and IFE are also working on theirs, no date yet
could you recommend a flight sim for a 9yr old boy? Something entry level that's good? For Win 10 laptop or switch pls :)
Great video, as always!
Can you make XP12 vs FS2020 vs P3D v5.3
Possibly! Cheers
The notions that XP has better flight simulation is just a notion. It maybe valid in the past but XP12 seems still uses Blade element theory. This flight dynamics calculating tech is pretty old. Haven't found CFD visualisation option. P-Factor with Perf. Data on MSFS more accurate there. MSFS in the other hand has CFD, which you can actually see the simulation and simulated surfaces on the airplane. XP maybe using 5 simulated surfaces on an airplane and MSFS uses hundreds of simulation surfaces in an aircraft, thus makes it more accurate and realistic.
Here's the CFD simulation in visual and data form. And I would like to see XP to provide with their simulation data as well.
ua-cam.com/video/Ndl07_7PsWg/v-deo.html
I'd love to try the microsoft flight sim but the download servers are so bad, it literally takes days even with freaking gigabit cable connections.
Unfortunately MSFS is totally hamstrung for me by the archaic, non-intuitive replay system, so much so that I reluctantly uninstalled it about 9 months ago, I now only fly DCS.
I don’t need an UA-camr’s questionably ‘independent’ opinion to tell me which flight sim I need to enjoy.
DCS is relaxed…?? 😂 yeah right! Those must have been some powerful tranquillisers you were taking
I can jump into the cockpit of Microsoft Simulator and just take off and land without much introduction at all
DCS took me days to start up cold and months to completely understand and master ALL the weapons and avionics
That’s ALL the convincing I EVER needed as to which was more challenging and realistic. Some of the SimPits people are building for DCS almost border on being a security concern.
Thanks for the video Captain 👌
My pleasure!
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I’d put DCS at no.1 myself really all MSFS has over it is the world scale map and terrain graphics its good and 2024 could push it to no.1 but the flight models just aren’t anywhere near as good imho (I own both btw)
Love the love for DCS World!
Where is il2 sturmovik ?!?
There really isn’t a top 5.
There’s DCS for combat and helicopters, and MSFS for everything else.
My bank account: DON'T... EVEN.... THINK....ABOUT IT
MSFS Scenery simulator.
Just say you're a dirty xplane Fanboy and that you have no fucking clue, and that you've never flown it bro. 💀
Don’t show the names on the screen and I can’t understand you sometimes
Aren't there only 5 flight sims in the whole world?
DCS sucks if you want to play an immersive campaign tho. There’s no squadron management or career mode. It’s all flight model and nothing else.
The notions that XP has better flight simulation is just a notion. It maybe valid in the past but XP12 seems still uses Blade element theory. This flight dynamics calculating tech is pretty old. Haven't found CFD visualisation option. P-Factor with Perf. Data on MSFS more accurate there. MSFS in the other hand has CFD, which you can actually see the simulation and simulated surfaces on the airplane. XP maybe using 5 simulated surfaces on an airplane and MSFS uses hundreds of simulation surfaces in an aircraft, thus makes it more accurate and realistic.
Here's the CFD simulation in visual and data form. And I would like to see XP to provide with their simulation data as well.
ua-cam.com/video/Ndl07_7PsWg/v-deo.html
Maybe review the top 5 mobile simulators....there are some great one's out there.
My favourite and worth a look is Real Flight Simulator.
Did you mean to put 2022 in the title? The Timeskip really did erase 2 years after all lol
Im tired of msfs ctd’s. Gave it 250g of space and days worth of downloading time. When it works it is great, but during flight it has one stutter then on the desktop really bugs
I would like to have a sim that’s capable of Cessna 182 and instrument. Look to get a pilots license and don’t know anything about this stuff
Nothing for Mac ??
MSFS might be prettier....but DCS is a better sim and Eagle Dynamics are a true David to Microsoft's Goliath. So, it's very impressive to see DCS be what it is.
The argument you just made makes no sense at all. Because it simply makes no sense to compare them.
@@burgadahz17 Why does it make no sense to compare them? Both simulate piloting aircrafts.....
@@BooliusGoozlur Yes, of course, but one can be used for combat and the other cannot. The other can carry out commercial aviation operations and the other cannot. It makes no sense to compare them.
@@burgadahz17 I fly the UH-1H Huey with no weapons....the P-51 with no weapons and both sims have the FA-18. So, when I just compare the experience there is a large difference in quality. I think that my conclusion is that if DCS had any commercial aircraft, if they ever take the time to do such a thing, it will be a vastly better experience. It is far less clunky and the flight models feel superior in the aircraft I have used. However, MSFS does shine in certain areas and I know that in other areas there can't really be a one to one comparison. But at the end of the day, they are indeed both flight sims and I disagree that you can't compare them at all. I can also compare the user interfaces and controls settings and DCS has MSFS beat there by a country mile as well.
@@BooliusGoozlur Yeah, but DCS doesn't have that. And do you think that if Asobo were to add aircraft combat to Microsoft Flight Simulator, they wouldn't do it right?
I'll repeat it to you as many times as necessary, there's no point in comparing the two to see which one is better. It's like comparing Gran Turismo with Forza Horizon 5.Both are car games but the purposes that each of the two seek are extremely different. One seeks to have a more realistic driving experience. And the other gives you the experience To be able to explore a large-scale open world.
One is not worse than the other because the two pursue extremely different purposes from each other. It would be very unfair to criticize one of the other.
Try out AFPS Flight Simulator it’s really good on Tablets and Phones
Which one offers 1V1 PvP. DCS or MSFS?
Technically both however dcs has weapons and you can watch your friend fall to the earth as a flaming wreck. Unless you slap him with a fox 3 at 80 miles
Xbox Series X Flight Simulator still has a few BUGS... Ground Services and Traffic MISSING without any Add-Ons...
Sorry to read you don’t have any ground service and traffic. I don’t have any add ons and have full ground service’s and traffic, depending on the airport.
@@TPHI17 What system do you have PC or Xbox Series X??
@@TPHI17 Here what strange... I have reloaded Flight Simulator 4 times and Ground Services is there... When I power down and re-open Flight Simulator again, all the Ground Services is Lost again...
@@victorraye57 series X
@@victorraye57 oh wow that is frustrating
Drinking warm water before bed ....does nothing
What is the airplane @0:01 ?
Spruce goose. Will be out with Sim Update 11.
Does the military simulator have Russian tank turrets?
which airport @2:51?
DCS and Xplane. Other one? Not required
Msfs.
What is the name of the second game?
Wicked video 📹
Thank you 🙌
In my opinion, the three companies of X-Plane - DCS - MS Flight Simulator are all tied for first place. The reason is that the damaged building scenes that appear when flying low altitude helicopters in MS Flight Simulator are still not resolved - these problems have not been resolved by MS. I admit that MS is first if it solves the problem. On the other hand, X-Plane's building scene shows everything well in three dimensions even at low altitudes, and DCS has a fatal disadvantage in that it has limited flight space.
still no curvature?:))
Putting MSFS above DCS is a shame from the sim side. You can say it has more to offer because of more civilian aircraft and landscapes but DCS offers more in terms of anything military so that is subjective. But just as a pure simulator of flying DCS 100% is the winner. The United States Air Force and other militaries use DCS to train real pilots, no one in history will use MFS to train real pilots
What you say doesn't make any sense. Because the DCS simulator is only adapted for fighter jets. Obviously it is true that the MSFS fighter jets are not better than those of the DCS ones. But here's the important thing. There's no point in comparing them. But the purpose of msfs is directly for commercial aircraft, not for fighter aircraft. Both have extremely different goals. Do you think DCS would have good physics for commercial aircraft? Exactly. It doesn't make sense.
War thunder?
well TOP 1 must have in 2022 is called a HIGH END PC
Flightgear
DCS beats all flight sims hands down.
For you, I guess. Because it's extremely subjective. And even more so with a simulator that seeks such a specific purpose as just modern militar y aviation.
Reviewer is taken in by a vulgar ‘Scenery Simulator’. The *convincing feel* of a plane in flight is my top priority and the blade element theory Xplane stuff doesn’t seem to translate into simulating *real world* _feel._ Aerofly gets basic aeroplane feel quite good or better some of the time but it can be update dependent and recently they are slow fixing reported bugs.
i DON'T HAVE A SPAR 60 POUNDS
Thankyouuu
You’re welcome 😊
Why did he say aerodynamics
DCS auf die1
MSFS is the biggest joke - I purchased it earlier this year and after a while of not playing, but keeping my Microsoft account on auto update I recently discovered that one of my hard drives suddenly gained a lot of space then I felt like playing my game again and lo and behold, the game deleted all the files uploaded and basically all my game content was gone after an automatic update. So yeah, I will never support a microsoft flight simulator game again, since they have no premise for a refund under these conditions Pathetic if you ask me
It will probably be a joke to you, because the simulator never gave me those problems.
Everything in MSFS is too clean. It looks unrealistic.
Is it on ps5
Bro bro wtf. 💀
Dcs for free but planes cost a fortune
why microsoft flight simulator is the best compare to the other?
Because in a general aspect it is the most complete and by far. And it is also evolving for the better.
@@burgadahz17 thank you!
I bought the game premium delux.
Cannot understand him!
Any free?
DCS is """"""""""""""""""""free""""""""""""""""""
very unhelpful video ...i came here to find a plane game that i could play with my big bro he has been stressful of late coz of marriage job loan stuff...i could find anything useful only got to hear how good they are or how their trailers looked
Enhace
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Thanks Aussie
I was fan of flight simulator and got so disappointed at FS2020. So many bugs and errors and so many unimplemented control panels. And they announced to release FS2024!!!! R U KIDDING?
dude your "P" and "B" words shocking my bass shaker. Think you're breath is too close to your mic
DCS is the only one. MFS is just a simulator...
UMH... Yeah?
Is there any realistic flightsim in laptop?
i play fs2020 with my laptop . you just need a powerful one !
@@telemaq76 atleast a free game an my loptop ver is 10
Im 14yerold and love realistic flight sim is there any?