I counted 5 children in this scene and 1 on the way. They had 9 children before Albert died, so it will depend on how many times she's pregnant in this serie.
Prince Albert died in 1861. Bertie would have been 20. He looks like he is 10-12 in the video. If they kill Prince Albert off this season it would have to be at the very end and they don’t usually progress that quickly in each season.
Albert saved the UK from revolution. In the early 1850’s he held a worlds fair of new innovation encouraging trade and capitalism. In addition he worked as a proxy King in improving trade, the military, cultural giving and Government. This all exhausted him and he died young in 1861 at the age of only 42.
There are two other theories on why he died. First they thought he got typhoid when he went to visit Bertie at University -- he was doing badly at University and was having illicit romantic affairs. Albert went up to the school to straighten him out, and came home with Typhoid. The other theory is that Albert had stomach cancer and that he was sick off and on for 2 years, but no one knew what he had, and they thought he was just having digestive issues.
I remember reading somewhere that Victoria loved having sex, but didn't like having the kids. She said that she sees herself as a cow when she has the kids.
After season two ended, I found myself feeling sad because characters I had come to know were leaving. I felt as if some of my friends were going away and I would surely miss them. I’m grateful for the upcoming season three. GOD bless all and Happy New Year!
@@ozlass7778 Debra's right. When he was a little boy Bertie was every teacher's nightmare of a school boy and Victoria would later blame him for Albert's death which she never forgives him.
Ira Williams "every teachers nightmare of a school boy". Please elaborate, how he was supposed to be a "nightmare"? Because, firstly, he never had teachers. He had tutors. So you aren't quite incorrect there. As for Victoria blaming him for Albert's death. Well, she only knew of one particular reason for the cause of Albert's death. Had they actually done an autopsy on Albert, they may have learnt otherwise. And Victoria's attitude towards Bertie may have been totally different. There's also the point, that Victoria may have also foolishly blamed Bertie for Albert's death, projecting her own guilt onto her son. After all, earlier in the year that Albert died, Victoria's mother and Albert's aunt, had both died. And Victoria was apparently so grief stricken, that Albert took over most of the Queens duties. Despite the fact that Albert was suffering himself with a long term stomach problem. The very problem that could have been exacerbated by too much stress and caused his demise. Or maybe Victoria didn't want to accept that Albert, himself, could actually be to blame for his own death. For choosing to travel when he was already suffering with a stomach problem. And taking a risk of catching something else to make his illness worse, or even terminal. We honestly don't know for sure, just what exactly was going on behind their closed doors. But to simply call him "obnoxious" or "every teachers nightmare", without a thorough explanation to back up the accusations, is rather ridiculous. Considering he was actually known to be charismatic and popular. And not just in Britain. As well as creating a harmonious relationship between Britain and Europe. Where he ended up being labelled a peacemaker. Even an historian wrote of him, giving him nothing but praise. Saying, he had a great natural ability to be both dignified and charming. And had exceptional tact at handling people. Sure, he had a bit of a reputation as a playboy prince (as many princes do, Eg. Charles and Harry). And yes, Bertie had a bit of difficulty learning, as he wasn't as intelligent as his older sister. But all that, does not warrant calling him obnoxious. Or a teachers nightmare, for goodness sakes.
@@ozlass7778 He was difficult for his tutor because Albert made his program too rigourous. The tutor even begged Albert to let him (him the tutor) tone it down).
In Australia, we have to wait until Thurs, 14th of March for season 3 to begin on BBC First through Foxtel. Argh! I cannot wait that long!! I was really hoping that we would get it at the same time as the UK. As Foxtel does with many other popular global programs. *SIGH*
I've waited all year long for season 3, and for what ever reason I can not get PBS on the air no matter what we have tried. Scan, connections, antenna, I am so peeved I can hardly contain my self! I've been denied! Grrrrr......
@@AlpenTree There's no such thing as *PBS UK.* It's called *PBS America* in the UK. It won't be shown on *PBS America* anway as this show is funded, produced, first broadcast, and owned by *ITV* so that is where it will be shown in the UK. However for some strange reason *ITV* have let *PBS* broadcast series 3 in the USA before they've broadcast it themselves.
Heather Bonin I believe that it wasn't until after Albert died, though, when Victoria actually started to put on the most weight. She became a recluse for some time after Albert died. But also putting on all the weight, partly made her afraid to go out in public too.
why is this being showed in the USA before England. WOW what slap in the face for ur British fans. Downtown Abbey would of never have done this to there British fans.
trainerlad1 Wow, really?! That sucks!! A similar thing happened with a new Australian series last years. Made in Australia with an Australian cast. Yet, it ended up airing in the U.S first. Bloody ridiculous, I think.
@@ozlass7778 agree it's terrible to treat fans this way after all she is a British Monarch and a British show. Never mind we have Downton Abbey to enjoy soon again best show ever.
trainerlad1 I was just trying to find the date of when it may air in the UK and Australia. Still not sure of the exact date it'll air in the UK. No information via Google available, that I could find. I did find that it'll be on the 14th of March, in Australia. And whilst searching, I noticed that it will be airing in the U.S first. That is so wrong!!! I agree, UK first. And everyone else, either the same day or very soon after. Although the same day is preferable. It can be frustrating when you see things on social media about tv programs you like, before you even get to see them on tv in your own country.
+Ozlass 777 Thank you for looking just can't get my head around it why would they do it. it's been massive in the UK as a fan who has bought all the dvds and the Christmas specials. it is a massive betrayal to UK fan base. As I said Downton Abbey would've never had done this to there British fans base. they really need to explain there selves why they have done this. I've put this on there Twitter account and asked them.
You have very very poor spelling and grammar, but I agree. It's an *ITV* show funded, produced, first broadcast and owned by *ITV.* Like every other British TV show it should be shown on *ITV* before it gets shown in any other country. If it was up to me I'd make the USA wait for a year at least like they do with us. We usually have to wait at least 3 months minimum for American shows, and can be waiting as long as 7 years sometimes like we had to do for *Breaking Bad* to be released in full. Yet British shows are usually shown on US streaming services or TV in 3 months or less, after their original UK broadcast. Watch out for the *City of Bradford* in the 3rd series of *Victoria* (which judging from this scene I think I know what it will be doubling as although there's no mention of the location I'm thinking of yet), and the *Downton Abbey* film. *Downton Abbey* filmed in *Little Germany, Bradford,* and *Victoria* filmed in *Bradford City Hall* and *Sunbridge Wells, Bradford.* As the scene above mentions *Belgium* I suspect *Victoria* also secretly filmed in *Little Germany* too as it has doubled for *Belgium* a few times before. Those locations and other nearby city centre locations in the same half a mile radius have also featured in films and TV shows from the last 10 years like: *Official Secrets* (2019), *Gentleman Jack* (2019), *Ilkley* (2019), *Emmerdale, The ABC Murders, Ackley Bridge, Gold, Gunpowder, Girlfriends, Peaky Blinders, Victoria, The Moorside, King Charles III, Funny Cow, Fresia, Lies We Tell, National Treasure, DCI Banks, The Windsors, Hank Zipzer's Christmas Catastrophe, 1920: London, Residue, Utopia, Happy Valley, The Great Train Robbery, The Syndicate, Room at the Top (2010), Coronation Street, The Red Riding Trilogy, Bollywood Carmen, The Selfish Giant, Welcome to Karachi, Get Santa, The Damned United, Testament of Youth* plus many many more factual shows like documentaries, talk shows, talent shows, cooking shows, entertainment shows etc.
Deku Uw You might be able to pay for the season but if you want it for free I think they put it up in the fall. At least that’s what they did with season 2.
@@ozlass7778 i am wondering how they will use the actress to portray the older version! Like finding a more older actress or use the make up to turn jenna into a senior lady?
I hate how this show portrays Victoria as stupid and naive whilst Albert is this great innovator with progressive ideas. Victoria rules just fine after Albert dies it would be nice if they portrayed her with more brains then the “thank god there is the English channel”. What a ridiculous line.
TVOCD I think that might just be your own perception of the series. I have found many moments where I felt that Victoria was portrayed as strong and intelligent. For example.. when she was so enthusiastic to get back to work, so soon after the birth of her first child, Victoria. And showing how happy Queen Victoria felt to be back at her desk. That made me think, that Victoria obviously loved dealing with her duties and taking care of business. Which she was more than capable of doing. Or the time where she got angry with Albert, for keeping certain information from her about the army. To me, that showed that Victoria was not going to let anyone treat her like a mushroom. Not even her husband. And also times, it showed how she was willing to learn about the things she was uneducated in. She may not have initially shared Alberts intelligence, when it came to technological innovations, science, mathematics and so on. But she wasn't afraid to learn. Like the time she decided to go for a ride on the train alone. And she wanted to learn about how it worked. Not to mention, it has shown her as possessing progressive ideas and values of her own. Such as her political opinion to abolish slavery. And showing more compassion towards those who were starving and dying during the potato famine. When she could have quite easily just turned a blind eye to both situations. I could go on. However, if by saying that they are portraying Victoria as being stupid and naive. That's probably because it was exactly how she was being treated by others, in reality. The same thing has happen whenever a female was on the throne. There have always been males around female head monarchs, who tried to control the female head monarchs to some degree. Husbands, politicians, men of the privy council etc. Who always thought that they knew better than the Queens. No doubt, even Elizabeth II has been through such similar male attitudes around her over her time as Queen. But, as this series has also shown, Victoria would not just take a back seat. She wouldn't play second fiddle to anyone, when it came to carrying out her duties, in her own way. I knew very little about the actual Queen Victoria, prior to watching this series so far. And I have to say, that right from the beginning, Victoria struck me as being a very strong, intelligent and independent person. She may have been a petite woman. And she may have lived a sheltered childhood. But boy, she certainly made her presence felt, once she grew up and became Queen.
Ozlass 777 well put. She has had some scenes where she has shown to be wise and compassionate to the downtrodden. I completely agree with your assessment on how the other characters primarily males but females too, treat her as a child that needs them to make decisions. Alfred more than anyone at times - I don’t like how the politicians walk to alfred first to tell him the news to pass on rather then just walk the extra few steps. It makes it seem that Alfred is used to simplify the message to her or that he is more important. Can you imagine a white house staff member telling Melania a message as Trump was right next to her? No.
TVOCD Oh I totally agree. It makes me a little angry whenever politicians would go to Albert first. Purely because he was a man, I think. Because many men (not all, thankfully) even in today's world, just cannot handle dealing with a female. Whether she is their boss or a queen or whatever, they just can't seem to be able to rise above their testosterone egos and simply respect a female having some level of seniority over them. Like it's beneath them, or something. Which is rather sad.
@@ozlass7778 After rewatching the film lately I must say I prefer her portrayal in the movie. They clearly show that she is inexperienced - thank you Mr Conroy and her mother. However it shows that she is intelligent and very willing to learn. She disagreed with Melbourne, someone she saw as a mentor and went against his wishes to help the poor, working and middle classes. They don't show her as a child like the show does, though there are moments of immaturity. She takes inspiration and knowledge from various people and makes her own mind up. Unlike in the show where it either came from Melbourne or Albert. Albert struggles to find his place in the house, but he isn't overbearing by telling her what to do. There was one scene in particular where Albert shares his idea to improve housing for the working class. He wasn't telling her what to do, he was simply just sharing his ideas and she took it in and wanted to do it. The one time he does do it, they have a huge fight.
TVOCD Well, after looking around the internet on and off in recent weeks. Looking up different stories and claims about Victoria, Albert and their children. I've found that there are many different views on the family. And I think the differences tend to come back to the person who has posted the stories/claims. Basically giving their own individual perspective on the facts, depending on how they, personally, wish to view history. This particular tv series has certainly painted Victoria and Albert, so far, in a fairly perfect manner. I've been very surprised to learn about some rather astonishing claims about what Victoria and Albert were apparently like. Particularly behind closed doors. And so now, I've since decided to take much of this tv series with a grain of salt. Which is rather sad. Considering it's barely been completely open and honest, about the REAL Victoria and Albert. And especially, since I've also learnt that there are quite a few faults in the storytelling within this series. Such as inaccuracies in the timeline when certain events actually occured, as opposed to how the series has played them out, falsely, mainly for dramatic effect. It's truly a shame, that this series has not been entirely accurate. It now seems to just feel more like a period drama. Where historical figures are foolishly used purely to entice more viewers to watch. Even though people are being mislead about history.
valarie 254 Not entirely, unfortunately. There are a few flaws in the timeline of events that have occured so far in this series, and what actually occured in reality at the time. It's a shame that it has played out this way, though. Because most people (like myself) would be partly watching it as a history lesson. Otherwise, it may as well be just any old period drama. And should not be using genuine historical figures for its storyline.
Ενώ παρακολουθούσα τη σειρά ξαφνικά κόπηκε από την ΕΡΤ το έχει κάνει και με άλλα σήριαλ και είναι εξοργιστικο κόπηκε όταν αρρώστησε ο πρίγκιπας που θα βρω τη σειρά δεν γνωρίζω
He shouldn't be if they follow the actual time of events. Season 3 is set in 1848 which is the year Lord Melbourne dies. Season 2 was set prior to 1848.
No, he didn't. The beings who died (all in season 2) were Dash the dog, Albert & Ernst's father (Ernst I, duke of Saxe-Coburg), and Edward Drummond, the closeted taller gay man, sidekick to PM Robt. Peel.
Albert’s hair is everything. 😍
“Ideas can swim.” Love that. What a great line!
Awesome. Hope they don't kill Albert in this series. I know he died early age but not now please. They both compliment each other so well.
You don't have to worry. Albert doesn't die until 1861.
@@t.k.1803 Thank you.
I counted 5 children in this scene and 1 on the way. They had 9 children before Albert died, so it will depend on how many times she's pregnant in this serie.
I think I read somewhere where they said that they weren’t killing Albert off this season!
Prince Albert died in 1861. Bertie would have been 20. He looks like he is 10-12 in the video. If they kill Prince Albert off this season it would have to be at the very end and they don’t usually progress that quickly in each season.
Albert saved the UK from revolution. In the early 1850’s he held a worlds fair of new innovation encouraging trade and capitalism. In addition he worked as a proxy King in improving trade, the military, cultural giving and Government. This all exhausted him and he died young in 1861 at the age of only 42.
tubularbill I’d rather die young and have an important legacy than live to be a thousand and never have done anything.
You give Albert way too much credit.
He died from cholera as a result of improper sanitation at Windsor Castle
A bit ironic since he tried to improve health in Buckingham Palace by introducing sanitation and proper waste disposal.
There are two other theories on why he died. First they thought he got typhoid when he went to visit Bertie at University -- he was doing badly at University and was having illicit romantic affairs. Albert went up to the school to straighten him out, and came home with Typhoid. The other theory is that Albert had stomach cancer and that he was sick off and on for 2 years, but no one knew what he had, and they thought he was just having digestive issues.
That poor woman is always pregnant!
I remember reading somewhere that Victoria loved having sex, but didn't like having the kids. She said that she sees herself as a cow when she has the kids.
She was also the grandmother to the last Russian Tsarina Empress Alexandra Feodrovena Romanov.
Hillary Anastasia’s mother?
Try Maria Theresa she had actually had 16 kids .
Wow!
After season two ended, I found myself feeling sad because characters I had come to know were leaving. I felt as if some of my friends were going away and I would surely miss them. I’m grateful for the upcoming season three. GOD bless all and Happy New Year!
You can really see the wonder in the children's eyes as they watch the pageantry of the Royal Court
Finally a good show that I’m not years late watching!!
I can't wait! Season three looks so amazing!
"Ideas can swim." Indeed. Great line!
Omg been waiting for 1 year.......
S3 had me in tears, I need S4 😭
The children are so adorable! 😆
Yes, yes adorable...at that age but we all know Bertie grows up to be really obnoxious.
Did you actually know Bertie personally, Debra?
@@ozlass7778 Debra's right. When he was a little boy Bertie was every teacher's nightmare of a school boy and Victoria would later blame him for Albert's death which she never forgives him.
Ira Williams
"every teachers nightmare of a school boy".
Please elaborate, how he was supposed to be a "nightmare"?
Because, firstly, he never had teachers. He had tutors.
So you aren't quite incorrect there.
As for Victoria blaming him for Albert's death.
Well, she only knew of one particular reason for the cause of Albert's death.
Had they actually done an autopsy on Albert, they may have learnt otherwise. And Victoria's attitude towards Bertie may have been totally different.
There's also the point, that Victoria may have also foolishly blamed Bertie for Albert's death, projecting her own guilt onto her son.
After all, earlier in the year that Albert died, Victoria's mother and Albert's aunt, had both died. And Victoria was apparently so grief stricken, that Albert took over most of the Queens duties.
Despite the fact that Albert was suffering himself with a long term stomach problem.
The very problem that could have been exacerbated by too much stress and caused his demise.
Or maybe Victoria didn't want to accept that Albert, himself, could actually be to blame for his own death.
For choosing to travel when he was already suffering with a stomach problem. And taking a risk of catching something else to make his illness worse, or even terminal.
We honestly don't know for sure, just what exactly was going on behind their closed doors.
But to simply call him "obnoxious" or "every teachers nightmare", without a thorough explanation to back up the accusations, is rather ridiculous.
Considering he was actually known to be charismatic and popular. And not just in Britain.
As well as creating a harmonious relationship between Britain and Europe. Where he ended up being labelled a peacemaker.
Even an historian wrote of him, giving him nothing but praise. Saying, he had a great natural ability to be both dignified and charming. And had exceptional tact at handling people.
Sure, he had a bit of a reputation as a playboy prince (as many princes do, Eg. Charles and Harry). And yes, Bertie had a bit of difficulty learning, as he wasn't as intelligent as his older sister.
But all that, does not warrant calling him obnoxious. Or a teachers nightmare, for goodness sakes.
@@ozlass7778 He was difficult for his tutor because Albert made his program too rigourous. The tutor even begged Albert to let him (him the tutor) tone it down).
The first part of the videos music sounds like music from Candyman
I never seen a series more historically accurate. Even got the Queen being skinny and pretty right. Like watching a window into the past.
So excited! Love this show!!
Love that show 😍😍😍
Oh gosh I can't wait I'm so excited!!!
Soooooooo glad Season 3 is here!! #longlivevictoriaandalbert👸🏻🤴🏻
Oh I’m so ready
Can't wait!!!! I'm also looking forward to seeing what happens between Mr. Francatelli and Miss Skerret!!!
She dies
Can’t wait for the third season♥️♥️
Do you know when it'll be out?
@@camilleb1366 sadly no, bit they did say I belive that there is gonna be a 3rd season at some point
Bring this show back 😢
Sooooo ready!!!
love it!! love this show!
nice to see lord alfred...
In Australia, we have to wait until Thurs, 14th of March for season 3 to begin on BBC First through Foxtel.
Argh! I cannot wait that long!!
I was really hoping that we would get it at the same time as the UK. As Foxtel does with many other popular global programs. *SIGH*
FINALLY!!!!
Like to pay respects for Drummond
Can’t wait
Could you make a recap of this season, please?
Thanks from France.
I've waited all year long for season 3, and for what ever reason I can not get PBS on the air no matter what we have tried. Scan, connections, antenna, I am so peeved I can hardly contain my self! I've been denied! Grrrrr......
Did you try PBS online? Even your local PBS station, or PBS UK
@@AlpenTree There's no such thing as *PBS UK.*
It's called *PBS America* in the UK.
It won't be shown on *PBS America* anway as this show is funded, produced, first broadcast, and owned by *ITV* so that is where it will be shown in the UK.
However for some strange reason *ITV* have let *PBS* broadcast series 3 in the USA before they've broadcast it themselves.
hi,
does anybody knows the soundtrack from 00:00-00:25
thanks
Love this show. Superb acting. Hope to see Uncle Leopold this Season
Alguien que hable español? Ja saben cuando se estrena en argentian?
Con subtítulos en donde se puede ver
Hope this season is better the two before
was queen Victoria really that small?
Yes she was! They say 5 feet tall and the actress that plays her here is 5' 2".
She was 5' or 5'1", with a 24" waist!!
@@AlpenTree Not after 9 kids it wasn't 24" I'm sure! 😉😊✌
Heather Bonin
I believe that it wasn't until after Albert died, though, when Victoria actually started to put on the most weight.
She became a recluse for some time after Albert died.
But also putting on all the weight, partly made her afraid to go out in public too.
Where is Ernest
WAIT... THERES A SEASON 3
Can’t wait 😍
What is the songs name in this scene?
LOVE VICTORIAAA
why is this being showed in the USA before England. WOW what slap in the face for ur British fans. Downtown Abbey would of never have done this to there British fans.
trainerlad1
Wow, really?!
That sucks!!
A similar thing happened with a new Australian series last years.
Made in Australia with an Australian cast. Yet, it ended up airing in the U.S first.
Bloody ridiculous, I think.
@@ozlass7778 agree it's terrible to treat fans this way after all she is a British Monarch and a British show. Never mind we have Downton Abbey to enjoy soon again best show ever.
trainerlad1
I was just trying to find the date of when it may air in the UK and Australia.
Still not sure of the exact date it'll air in the UK. No information via Google available, that I could find.
I did find that it'll be on the 14th of March, in Australia.
And whilst searching, I noticed that it will be airing in the U.S first.
That is so wrong!!!
I agree, UK first. And everyone else, either the same day or very soon after.
Although the same day is preferable. It can be frustrating when you see things on social media about tv programs you like, before you even get to see them on tv in your own country.
+Ozlass 777 Thank you for looking just can't get my head around it why would they do it. it's been massive in the UK as a fan who has bought all the dvds and the Christmas specials. it is a massive betrayal to UK fan base. As I said Downton Abbey would've never had done this to there British fans base. they really need to explain there selves why they have done this. I've put this on there Twitter account and asked them.
You have very very poor spelling and grammar, but I agree.
It's an *ITV* show funded, produced, first broadcast and owned by *ITV.*
Like every other British TV show it should be shown on *ITV* before it gets shown in any other country.
If it was up to me I'd make the USA wait for a year at least like they do with us.
We usually have to wait at least 3 months minimum for American shows, and can be waiting as long as 7 years sometimes like we had to do for *Breaking Bad* to be released in full.
Yet British shows are usually shown on US streaming services or TV in 3 months or less, after their original UK broadcast.
Watch out for the *City of Bradford* in the 3rd series of *Victoria* (which judging from this scene I think I know what it will be doubling as although there's no mention of the location I'm thinking of yet), and the *Downton Abbey* film.
*Downton Abbey* filmed in *Little Germany, Bradford,* and *Victoria* filmed in *Bradford City Hall* and *Sunbridge Wells, Bradford.* As the scene above mentions *Belgium* I suspect *Victoria* also secretly filmed in *Little Germany* too as it has doubled for *Belgium* a few times before.
Those locations and other nearby city centre locations in the same half a mile radius have also featured in films and TV shows from the last 10 years like:
*Official Secrets* (2019), *Gentleman Jack* (2019), *Ilkley* (2019), *Emmerdale, The ABC Murders, Ackley Bridge, Gold, Gunpowder, Girlfriends, Peaky Blinders, Victoria, The Moorside, King Charles III, Funny Cow, Fresia, Lies We Tell, National Treasure, DCI Banks, The Windsors, Hank Zipzer's Christmas Catastrophe, 1920: London, Residue, Utopia, Happy Valley, The Great Train Robbery, The Syndicate, Room at the Top (2010), Coronation Street, The Red Riding Trilogy, Bollywood Carmen, The Selfish Giant, Welcome to Karachi, Get Santa, The Damned United, Testament of Youth* plus many many more factual shows like documentaries, talk shows, talent shows, cooking shows, entertainment shows etc.
Jenna Coleman is so beautiful!!!! 😍
Does anyone know if it will be on Amazon Prime right away?
Deku Uw You might be able to pay for the season but if you want it for free I think they put it up in the fall. At least that’s what they did with season 2.
When will the season 3 be out?
don't know if they are going to portray victoria at the time she got old and passed away in a final season someday...
Xinyi Sally Peng
I think that they would go all the way to the time Victoria passed away. It makes sense that they would.
@@ozlass7778 i am wondering how they will use the actress to portray the older version! Like finding a more older actress or use the make up to turn jenna into a senior lady?
Xinyi Sally Peng
I have also wondered about that.
I guess we will just have to wait and see.
IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO NANCY AND CHARLES....
Have I missed something?
"I am a queen, not a cow" are you?
I hate how this show portrays Victoria as stupid and naive whilst Albert is this great innovator with progressive ideas. Victoria rules just fine after Albert dies it would be nice if they portrayed her with more brains then the “thank god there is the English channel”. What a ridiculous line.
TVOCD
I think that might just be your own perception of the series.
I have found many moments where I felt that Victoria was portrayed as strong and intelligent.
For example.. when she was so enthusiastic to get back to work, so soon after the birth of her first child, Victoria. And showing how happy Queen Victoria felt to be back at her desk.
That made me think, that Victoria obviously loved dealing with her duties and taking care of business. Which she was more than capable of doing.
Or the time where she got angry with Albert, for keeping certain information from her about the army.
To me, that showed that Victoria was not going to let anyone treat her like a mushroom. Not even her husband.
And also times, it showed how she was willing to learn about the things she was uneducated in.
She may not have initially shared Alberts intelligence, when it came to technological innovations, science, mathematics and so on. But she wasn't afraid to learn.
Like the time she decided to go for a ride on the train alone. And she wanted to learn about how it worked.
Not to mention, it has shown her as possessing progressive ideas and values of her own.
Such as her political opinion to abolish slavery.
And showing more compassion towards those who were starving and dying during the potato famine.
When she could have quite easily just turned a blind eye to both situations.
I could go on.
However, if by saying that they are portraying Victoria as being stupid and naive. That's probably because it was exactly how she was being treated by others, in reality.
The same thing has happen whenever a female was on the throne.
There have always been males around female head monarchs, who tried to control the female head monarchs to some degree.
Husbands, politicians, men of the privy council etc. Who always thought that they knew better than the Queens.
No doubt, even Elizabeth II has been through such similar male attitudes around her over her time as Queen.
But, as this series has also shown, Victoria would not just take a back seat. She wouldn't play second fiddle to anyone, when it came to carrying out her duties, in her own way.
I knew very little about the actual Queen Victoria, prior to watching this series so far.
And I have to say, that right from the beginning, Victoria struck me as being a very strong, intelligent and independent person.
She may have been a petite woman. And she may have lived a sheltered childhood. But boy, she certainly made her presence felt, once she grew up and became Queen.
Ozlass 777 well put. She has had some scenes where she has shown to be wise and compassionate to the downtrodden. I completely agree with your assessment on how the other characters primarily males but females too, treat her as a child that needs them to make decisions. Alfred more than anyone at times - I don’t like how the politicians walk to alfred first to tell him the news to pass on rather then just walk the extra few steps. It makes it seem that Alfred is used to simplify the message to her or that he is more important. Can you imagine a white house staff member telling Melania a message as Trump was right next to her? No.
TVOCD
Oh I totally agree.
It makes me a little angry whenever politicians would go to Albert first.
Purely because he was a man, I think. Because many men (not all, thankfully) even in today's world, just cannot handle dealing with a female.
Whether she is their boss or a queen or whatever, they just can't seem to be able to rise above their testosterone egos and simply respect a female having some level of seniority over them. Like it's beneath them, or something.
Which is rather sad.
@@ozlass7778 After rewatching the film lately I must say I prefer her portrayal in the movie. They clearly show that she is inexperienced - thank you Mr Conroy and her mother. However it shows that she is intelligent and very willing to learn. She disagreed with Melbourne, someone she saw as a mentor and went against his wishes to help the poor, working and middle classes. They don't show her as a child like the show does, though there are moments of immaturity. She takes inspiration and knowledge from various people and makes her own mind up. Unlike in the show where it either came from Melbourne or Albert. Albert struggles to find his place in the house, but he isn't overbearing by telling her what to do. There was one scene in particular where Albert shares his idea to improve housing for the working class. He wasn't telling her what to do, he was simply just sharing his ideas and she took it in and wanted to do it. The one time he does do it, they have a huge fight.
TVOCD
Well, after looking around the internet on and off in recent weeks. Looking up different stories and claims about Victoria, Albert and their children.
I've found that there are many different views on the family.
And I think the differences tend to come back to the person who has posted the stories/claims. Basically giving their own individual perspective on the facts, depending on how they, personally, wish to view history.
This particular tv series has certainly painted Victoria and Albert, so far, in a fairly perfect manner.
I've been very surprised to learn about some rather astonishing claims about what Victoria and Albert were apparently like. Particularly behind closed doors.
And so now, I've since decided to take much of this tv series with a grain of salt. Which is rather sad.
Considering it's barely been completely open and honest, about the REAL Victoria and Albert.
And especially, since I've also learnt that there are quite a few faults in the storytelling within this series. Such as inaccuracies in the timeline when certain events actually occured, as opposed to how the series has played them out, falsely, mainly for dramatic effect.
It's truly a shame, that this series has not been entirely accurate.
It now seems to just feel more like a period drama. Where historical figures are foolishly used purely to entice more viewers to watch.
Even though people are being mislead about history.
I don't know if I can watch....like Vikings, each new season gets ruined.... 😓
Maria Lewis
Each new season?
There's only been just two seasons of 'Victoria' so far 😜🤣
Lol Vikings is terrible now 😩
So victoria is based on true stories😲
valarie 254
Not entirely, unfortunately.
There are a few flaws in the timeline of events that have occured so far in this series, and what actually occured in reality at the time.
It's a shame that it has played out this way, though. Because most people (like myself) would be partly watching it as a history lesson.
Otherwise, it may as well be just any old period drama. And should not be using genuine historical figures for its storyline.
@@ozlass7778 thankyou
Ενώ παρακολουθούσα τη σειρά ξαφνικά κόπηκε από την ΕΡΤ το έχει κάνει και με άλλα σήριαλ και είναι εξοργιστικο κόπηκε όταν αρρώστησε ο πρίγκιπας που θα βρω τη σειρά δεν γνωρίζω
Well at least Belgium to fall to revolution.
Is Lord M dead?
Yes, died in the 3rd episode of the 2nd season
@@aukebeeke7704 What????? :(((
He shouldn't be if they follow the actual time of events. Season 3 is set in 1848 which is the year Lord Melbourne dies. Season 2 was set prior to 1848.
@@lilith_287 he died of cancer or some sort of illness, can't remember because it's been over a year since the last season.
No, he didn't. The beings who died (all in season 2) were Dash the dog, Albert & Ernst's father (Ernst I, duke of Saxe-Coburg), and Edward Drummond, the closeted taller gay man, sidekick to PM Robt. Peel.
Will Albert go bald this season?😅