Victor Davis Hanson on grand strategy, immigration, and the 2016 presidential election
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- Recorded on September 22, 2016
Hoover Institution fellow Victor Davis Hanson discusses Russia, China, and the danger of American withdrawal from the world stage. In addition, Hanson talks about immigration and assimilation in the United States throughout time. Hanson notes that, when immigrants assimilate and embrace the United States, then immigration works and strengthens us, but that when immigrants seek to separate themselves and reject US values and culture, then immigration becomes detrimental. Hanson ends the interview talking about the 2016 presidential candidates and election.
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I just discovered Victor Hanson. What a gold mine of wisdom.
Largely under appreciated in the present, but Peter Robinson is truly a gift to the world for all the great dialogue he has facilitated.
Victor is brilliant. I wish the video was 3 hours. Thanks.
the last few years have seen the rise of some really outstanding political pundits, but only this Hanson fellow comes to the forum combining historical knowledge, practical life experience, religious conscience and idealism, and personal warmth, all with the ability to LEAD an audience to see his point!
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VDH is the only conservative pundit among the National Review and Weekly Standard crowd who comes out with respect after the 2016 election. The rest of them should be ashamed of themselves for being self serving and trying to put their careers before their country.
Levin is right: to those Never Trumpers at NR and WS, it's like a personal vendetta they have against Trump.
Thank you for interviewing Dr. Hanson. Well spoken and easily understood, the discussion was very clear and precise and loaded with measured comments. His interviews are always welcome. :)
The man's a genius. Every time I listen to VDH my eyes and mind are opened, and I feel enlightened. I'm also hopeful many Americans are having the same experience.
Watching this again in 2020 amidst COVID, it’s just incredible how prophetic he was.
I love Victor Davis Hanson...I could just listen to him all day long. Thank you for another great video...!!
I have watched this man a lot on television I think he's a genius very bright very subtle he needs to be given a platform maybe on a daily basis he speaks with a comforting solid voice with opinion that makes Incredible on a sense
I love this guy. I can listen to Mr Hanson all day
I hope a lot of folks watch this.
Fabulous interview involving two men who are truly "salt of the earth". Keep up the good work, both please. It's truth that makes us free.
That is probably the sharpest insight I've heard about Clinton, the Foundation, and future influence.
Agree. The comparison with other presidential couples is very poignant.
VDH, on point, as always.
indeed
Fascinating mind.
He's 80/20 and the 20 is fatal error.
Victor's comment about Woodrow Wilson is spot on. I been saying those things for years.
100 % Agree.
I'm a South Korean
Looking back at Japan’s raise to economic superiority, I remember when everyone thought they would take over everything, then decline due to their inability to create their own intellectual ideas, I think China will do the same. They have to steel technology as an example and their form of ideology does not foster independent thought that brings the revelation for new ideas. Americans still have the lock on ideas.
Thank you for this video. The interview explained so many things to me. Peter Robinson asked the questions that had been bugging me for years. And Victor gave answers that finally made sense to me. For example, I was questioning why spend so much blood and treasure to be the policeman of the world. Now, I understand.
This educated, wise man has the big picture in mind. He can draw conclusions and parallels from ancient bygone empires that are very still accurate today. He is making a very good case for the big picture of why mass illegal immigration is NOT working and is HURTING America. 1. Is it diverse or just one main region? 2. Is it measured/regulated to where there’s enough time to assimilate? 3. Do they come as meritocratic or just from whose local and the neediest wheel gets the grease? The final question: is one domestic party using this group for personal electoral calculations?? All the Democrats care about is identity politics and “tribal grievances” as he said. The country is more divided and now Trump has inherited this contentious mess.
15:10 YES please talk about it until you both are blue in the face and then upload it! I really miss intelligent lectures that are not ideologically driven that deal with history. We need more uncommon knowledge.
36:30 Davis Hanson tells MSM to get a life.
My life is now complete.
It is so enjoyable to watch these old videos and see how incredibly correct he was...
the last few years have seen the rise of some really outstanding political pundits, but only this Hanson fellow comes to the forum combining historical knowledge, practical life experience, religious conscience and idealism, and personal warmth, all with the ability to LEAD an audience to see his point!
"...20 trillion dollars in debt, cultural and social and racial division, a healthcare system that doesn't work, a failed foreign policy, and an entitlement industry that is unsustainable...
...those problems have a self-correcting mechanism that is CHAOS..."
What a great summary which could equally be used to describe the UK.
Fantastic. Enjoyed VDH and Peter as usual.
Victor is so smart and insightful.
I love to back and see just how amazingly correct VDH calls things.
He is very intelligent, I was thourghly impressed. Fact , both of them are well spoken.
I recall that, having destroyed Japan, we took them over and converted them to a capitalistic power. And they competed. "Made in Japan" was a sign that the goods were cheaply made when I was a child,. In about 10 years, Sony and Toyota and the others were products of superior quality. And we let them sell that stuff to us. We defeated Japan, then reconstructed it to become an economic competitor to us, and it threw us into turmoil that continues to this day.
That is, indeed, a weird way to be an "imperialist" power.
And we pay for the defense of Japan. We are a very weird empire.
Peace at any price. Reminds me of my marriage. There's no such thing :)
Excellent. Thank you for bringing this.
VDH .. as outstanding and clear thinking an interview guest as he is an author
I love this guy's analysis, even when I disagree. He has been a long-time favorite.
I enjoyed this very much. VDH is always a treat- he speaks plainly and in such an almost seamless manner ties in the importance of the past on the present.
Please make a separate clip of Hanson addressing the immigration question starting at 21:18. Thank you.
29:30 'We're the only multi-racial society that worked'. What about Brazil? I know we're doing very poorly now in South Africa, but that is because of socialist idiocy in government, not racial problems! 39:42. 'Woodrow Wilson... what he did at Versailles guaranteed a war in 20 years'. He is SO right!! A very interesting itv! Thanks! I am reading Dr Hanson's Western Way of War, some interesting ideas there!!
spot on, well said
Amazing. Thank you.
8:29 Some Australians don't like to hear it. I don't mind at all. Thank you.
Jesus I love the Hoover Institution videos
Dr. Hanson, I am with you on everything except one thing.
But first, unlike you, I am not a student of history or war, though I am trying to change that. I am open to learning. So please, I am truly listening.
I recognize your suspicion of Russia. Further, I am certainly onboard with the idea of it being in the interest of many for the U.S. to maintain its military prowess. Even if there is merit in a careful view of Russia from past behavior, I do not see the advantage of not trying to build a more widely shared sense of European and Christian identity with Russia and other Western nations. Russia has undergone some kind of This seems natural to me in light of other threats mutually shared by European nations, including Russia.
transformation (but you may argue not as great as it might seem).
Propositional definitions of what it means to be a Western nation are fine. These make for good ideals. Such ideals, jointly forming a telos, can shape nations and peoples over time--a long time. In the meantime, ethnicity and race are critically important. But here is an import waypoint. Most react with apprehension when they hear these terms. I suggest that, rather than treating ethnicity and race as features of divisiveness, we instead recognize the possibility of expanding cooperativity (ultimately among all peoples) by building upon nested affiliations of ethnicity and race. That is, let's make subsidiary responsibilities and allegiances work for us. I have my family, my kin, my kindred neighbors, my ethnicity, my nation, my race. These affinities are biologically (read strongly "neurobiologically) based. You won't do well attempting to circumvent such realities. IT has never worked. Stochastic fluctuations in geographic and economic aspects of ethnicity and race, even for unrelated, non-genetic happenstance, will always be exploited by some force. I would point out that that reality in the U.S. and other Western nations obtains in obvious ways today. (Did I need to say that other than for maintaining the line of my own reasoning?)
I expect others to have legitimate affinity for their nested subsets of ethnic affiliation. Recognizing these realities is the basis for beginning to say how can we cooperate. ("Let's make a deal" in the phraseology of Donald Trump.) The moderating virtues here are proportionality in the service of justice--but not a false justice as the Left is apt to utilize for what I believe are patently cynical purposes.
My perspective as a neurobiologist is (likely) different from yours and from Peters. But maybe not. I will ask you to transfer some of that practical wisdom of the importance of genetics acquired from your years of growing raisins and other fruits.
I do not see that recognizing deep behavioral differences between people as racist. It is not about wanting to harm people or "hating tem" as the adolescent and exploited street and classroom thugs of the Left regurgitate under the direction of their elite handlers and paymasters. I propose, instead, that by beginning a discussion of behavioral differences that emerge onto the cultural and political, we can without animosity approach each other as different--and wonderfully so. l am suggesting that armed with a realistic understandings of ethnic and racial differences, we can genuinely and seriously develop conditions of flourishing that are better for all peoples. But this will require the jettisoning of silly ways of thinking about multiculturalism. True multiculturalism requires borders for regulated exchange and migration of peoples, ideas and goods. Limited assimilation, as you describe for your family in the San Joaquin Valley, are not to be confused with the Kalergi scale flooding of nations by the ideology of a borderless world. But you make that point in other words, I acknowledge that. But let me point out why borders separating nations are important. Other no doubt have happened upon this model. I have used it now for decades.
Like cell membranes, active borders are a vital aspect of living cells, and in multicellular organisms, the health of the whole body. Borders separate environments that necessarily require different makeups. In the case of cells, this is an electrochemical gradient. In the case of nations, it is biogeographical and biogeopolitical. Different nations may need even very different systems of law and economies. In the case of a cell, no gradient between the inside and the outside of a cells, and the cell is irreversibly dead. The same is true with the nations of the world and thus the evils we are seeing that are resulting form the disastrously unintelligent visions of the Globalist elite--unless you posit nefarious intentions on their part. Okay, enough of the biotechnical analogy--it may bore--or seems odd to--some people, especially many who read political blog sites. But thematic analogies, used with due caution, have great instructive utility across disciplines.
To continue, I am not only desirous of learning about what happened in history (again, something that is undeniable important), but I am always interested in present and future action based on a well-selected "shoulds."
As a small but perhaps useful digression, I know Jewish people that have great contempt for Russia and Russians. I understand the history. And the Russians have their complaints regarding Jews and the Bolshevics. Based on my perspective as a naïve-observer of anecdotal, cultural experiences, I wonder how much of this current angst over the relations of the U.S. & Western Europe with Russia is not proxy language for the topic just ventured--one of those uncomfortable topics.
To employ a medical analogy, my investigative rule is that if there is a region of sensitivity, guarding and complaint upon palpitation--that is precisely where we need to explore for the good of the patient.
As a last comment, often times my colleagues will reflexively launch into denunciations of what I am saying by employing the term, 'determinism'. This is unfortunate, uninformed, incorrect, and--therefore--supremely and definitively unnecessary objection to analyses that include genetics and bioethnicity. There is certain--and I would argue, recommended--means of discussing all manner of genetic influences without invoking or alleging a philosophically extreme position of determinism. Life, biology, just does not work that way. But you know that and you now that history does not either.
To the good of us all!
David Schmitt ...In God we trust!
He sees everything! What an amazing mind. The trump analysis is prophetic.
Very interesting. Thanks.
Excellent interview.
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Brilliant historian. Just brilliant.
Wow!!
same question, Victor - Dr. Hanson, what do you think now?
2:00 Doesn't he mean 1898?
Yes.
I find it so frustrating that there is such a wealth of knowledge and wisdom coming from the Hoover Institution, and yet the lack of marketing skills to make it exciting and digestible for the American public.
The questions come in form of essays. Keep it short and sweet interviewer.
Great interview! Why have only 80K people seen this???
Victor Davis Hanson
Mark Steyn
Ann Coulter
Thomas Sowell
that's about it
It's like you went into my brain and plucked the 4 best names
The ones who get it on immigration, and are willing to say it.
All authors, instead of tv talking heads.
Dennis Prager
Donald J. Trump, technically speaking. He's an author and no talking head. Haha, ain't life grand?
Mark Levin
There is this myth that we never sought the Philippines...that the cunning Spanish foisted them on us after we defeated them in the Spanish-American War. But oddly enough, America had been wanting to work our way toward an Asian power base since before the Civil War. The taking of the Hawaiian Islands served this aim as did occupying the Philipines in the heart of Asia. We had imperial designs on Asia but seemed never to be able to admit what we were about. We never took rich colonies in places like China and India. But we seemed to want to trade with the region. And to our credit, when we gained the power, we ended the colonial exploitation of Asia by the Europeans.
Hoover Institute is Hoover Institute where gathered much higher leveled advanced researchers for America's politics, social problems, econemy issues, reality of the society, foreign policies, governing issues...etc., as many as we can't imagine as the open topics for us to learn more to understand better. Their hard working on various issues by their unique professions and wisdoms. We ordinary people just take learn and absorb whatever we feel like it by appreciations of the learning opportunities. Listen more, always will be able to learn some or absorb a little bit of the essence of the their comprehensive views by their respective researches. Agree or not is not our leveled ordinary people to be able to say, their much efforts of the researchs will absolutely teach us the right ways of thinking logics, I guess.
Supreme gentlemen....
Brilliant.
He is brilliant.
Victor Davis Hanson is so cool and interesting.
Clairvoyant, wasn't he? Score another one for VDH.
Really like Victor. A real conservative and scholar. He loves the Anglo-sphere too. Hear! Hear!
Debra Messing is a hero and an American Patriot.
this man sounds like an eloquent Trump.
we aren't tough, other countries don't respect us.
Rich Henry That's an odd statement. Of course other nations respect the United States. They would be foolish to underestimate its military, political and economic power. What they don't respect is American ideology, which is really their own decision to make.
Is the U.S. justified in intervening in other nations' affairs, requested or otherwise? That is the crux of the issue and there is no correct answer. Can a nation that touts about the idea that self-determination and democratic choice, yet projects that idea forcefully at times, really be respected? The U.S. has been caught in this "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation since the end of the Cold War.
I'm not going to argue one way or the other, because fuck if I know the answer. But, the idea that the United States should demand respect is a dangerous one. We've prided ourselves for generations on using force only when necessary and with overwhelmingly selfless intentions. There's no reason to give people an excuse to scream "EMPIRE!" They already do it anyway, but there's no reason to lend credence to those goons.
Nastrael Rowe yes it can.
America can tout the fact that at times it must by force enforce self rule and determination.
It's exactly what happens when you call the police. Were I to steal from you or demand extortion money you would have every right to call the police who by force coerce me to follow the law.
I know you thought you were being insightful but you gotta think a little here.
i can't get enough VDH
Wisdom rare these days.
VDH is so right!
Wilson did not have the final say at Versailles.....France and Great Britain suffered heavily from the war and demanded the strong sanctions.
All that he said about withdrawing from the Pacific has become true one year later.
I am a great admirer of Victor Davis Hanson and enjoy hearing him speak and lecture. When he speaks of American Imperialism I I would like to hear his thoughts on the creation of the USA empire of the 19th C. when, once free of the restraints of British governance America embarks on the creation of the empire we now know as the USA.. going from 13 colonies to 50 states taking up almost the entire North American continent.. Empire as sure as god made little green apples.. and yet most Americans are blind this...
MartinIDavies what are you talking about all the states were territories prior to becoming states that voted to enter the union.
The most classical examples of empire are the French, English, German and Soviet empires. Which goes without saying that there is no comparison.
If that were the case every nation in the face of the Earth could be leveled this charge. Mexico during the the 18th and 19h century was far more akin to what we know as an "empire", yet today it's off spring are undertaking a campaign to convince the world they are the victims of American imperial ambition.
What sense does this make?
Explain yourself
I love this guy
Biology --> Culture --> Type of Government (Prove me wrong.)
32:22 Citing examples of policies the elites promote ( but don't believe) because they have the wealth and influence necessary to avoid the consequences there of..
“Abolish the democrat party” must be made a common refrain around the world.
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Hanson is a very erudite fellow but he is more than a little full of himself and gives the United States much too much credit for being generous at it's own expense.
Go on......
He should have mentioned The Western Way of War in his intro. It´s easily his greatest work.
'Get a life' hahahaha I think that's a first for uncommon knowledge
ha! I got jarred a bit out my seat on that one too! Good kick in the pants to make sure we're still awake.
I agree with a lot of what he said, however it should be noted that the US is one of the most difficult countries to get full citizenship. The process is long and difficult, even for educated people from other affluent nations. I was recently in Whistler and noticed that there were a lot of Australians working at the bars and restaurants. And one of the waitresses said that a big reason why was because its much easier to get a work visa in Canada than the US
NickBigsmoke Good, we're full.
Hanson is terrific but he misspoke twice. He meant to say 1898 was the last time the US kept territory after a war and he referred to the Spanish-American War as the Spanish Civil War.
This interview was a boxing match between Mike Tyson and peewee Herman and Victor Davis Hanson delivered a knockout in round 1
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it's interesting how Hanson categorizes global tensions by ideology only. He does not mention International banking interests and corporatism which is always the leading cause for any intrusion from a large country into a smaller country. Oil pipelines, natural gas, minerals and other resources that are coveted by an invading country or group of countries.
So in this video.., : will he stick to the subject?
What a wonderful discussion!! I feel Trump is listening or at least advising with Mr. Hanson.
ehh it works in uruguay, in argentin,a peru even in brazil. it even works in Canada!
"Recalibrate" NATO- yes, as in get rid of it.
History. The subject that the privileged believe they are immune from. Victor explains WHY our instincts are right.
Dr. Hanson's arguments about land and "traditional imperialism" may be demonstrably flawed. The driving motivation behind The Wealth of Nations was Smith's search to figure out how Britain was wealthy despite having so little land. Land, of course, was a more critical form of capital at that time.
As technology and economics have changes, direct military control of land (particularly farmland) is not the economic necessity and pressure it once was. Ever since the start of the Neoloberal Revolution, the financialization and digitization of the economy, you wouldn't expect empires to behave the same way.
The question is whether we have uses our military to serve elitist socio-economic interests, and I believe that Chomsky and others have clearly and convincingly laid out such a critique.
Hanson obviously has many insights and a valuable perspective, though on this point I must conclude he is being a little rosy. Nothing wrong with a little balanced optimism, though!
After all, what he says is true - we aren't a normal empire. We're an empire that values humans far more than most civilizations - which is a great advance in and of itself.
To understand the questions and issues raised by the above video, dive deeper. I Recommend Michael Heiser's book "The Unseen Realms." It will bring an understanding that's both Biblical, rational and explains thousands of years of world history.
I rest my case regarding political deafness.
Dr Hanson when you talk about democracy and rule of law would like to point out that constitutional governance has also flourished in India which is a multi-culture, multi lingual nation. Although democracy has succeeded British colonialism the development is purely the result of indigenous thought and genius.
Sir, you may not still the peoples land" To day they use the Court to do that! And it is not just land they still.
I agreed with everything he said up until the point about the need for America to intervene to prevent different powers becoming a powerful force that could challenge America. The reasons those countries had an issue with America in WW2 is because America got involved in WW1 and also interfered in the interwar period. Making unnecessary enemies for the sake of ungrateful ignorant countries is no way preserve greatness. America would be better off sending platitudes and best wishes.
Herman Hoth you missed the whole point of American intervention in the 20th century then.
America has upheld a post war world order for over seven decades. Many tensions are gains rising throughout the world. Many of the nations he mentioned that are protected by the American sphere of influence have the capability to go nuclear. And once America abandons those regions who are we then to say they should not defend themselves as they see fit, even if that means getting the bomb?
21:30 Excellent analogy of Roman immigration and migration with today. A good modern day example of some of the ideas raised here is Canada, which has diverse immigration, it is measured and it has legal, meritocratic auspices. An equivalent legal mmigration rate into the US would be 3 million per year. Just as the WSJ recommends for the US, Canada's Conference Board wants to see Canadian immigration increased by 50%. 25:20 Canada practices a more multi-cultural approach than the assimilationist US. Since immigrants come from so many places, no one group gains excessive influence over others. Canada's Parliament has numerous first and second generation immigrants, including senior Cabinet ministers, who retain a highly visible identity associated with their country of origin. Multiple citizenship is firmly established.
1. The division in the ruling elite is not between Republican and Democrat, Conservative and Progressive, but rather between the political and owning elite.
2. What is the point of undergoing the trials of becoming a member of the elite if you cannot ensure social arrangements exempt you from the morality you have been empowered to impose on everyone else?
3. At least since FDR, presidential elections have been decided on who is more convincing as a man * of * the people, even if they are not quite * for * the people.
4. Hanson can be dispassionate, informative and suggestive, but, as an historical cyclicalist, he is never really profound -- as a comparison of his early and post-election remarks on Trump show.
I have nothing to say.
36:50 😂
Novgorod, a sustained constitutional system in Russia. They where conquered, but a constitutional system none the less
The last lines says it all for America; you can chose the more conservative candidate or you can chose the progressive candidate and let the ensuing chaos correct the disasters that will follow.
What a harsh form of correction to be so blunt about too, if it wasn't embedded in reality it's one of those things that buried heads in the sand only seek to dive deeper away from.
i respect mr hanson tremendously....but i beg to disagree with his pronouncement about the philippines......sorry but he got it entirely wrong.
The United States didn't take the Philippines as part of a "Spanish civil war." The so-called "Philippine Insurrection" was led by Tagalogs, not by the Moros. McKinley did intend to annex the Philippines, but the United States backed off, creating the Philippine Commonwealth in 1935, leading to its independence in 1946. The United States did exploit the Philippines, but not as egregiously as probably any other imperial power would have at the time, and the German fleet was poised to move into Manila Bay as soon as Dewey left. The darkest pages of U.S. history were written in the Philippines. Think of the "howling wilderness" of Samar. But the brightest pages of U.S. history were written there, too -- i.e., the education brought by the Thomasites and the liberation occasioned by MacArthur's return.
I had to do a search to see why VD Hansen looks so fit, because most his age, and younger are so bloated, including the President, unfortunately. He is a farmer! I took care of farmers in the nursing home, they remain mobile longer than those that didn't live an active life. I am sure enjoying all the VD Hansen clips on youtube.