Also message for the furries if you see it: Keep being awesome! Really, so many people who join the fandom can feel better about themselves and jeep advancing, a friend of mine so full of anxiety and stress is now cured thanks to joining the fandom and meating (Meeting autocorrect!) Friends!
Thank you, finally someone said this! Being a furry was the best decision I’ve ever made. Making fursonas and drawing them really keeps the sadness away.
@@corruptedteka hey, relax. an open line of communication can at least save your bacon from time to time. people, furry or not, do value honesty, after all.
You can bet they do take years, and that's if you're lucky. Usually they take the money and run. I've been burned by several artists over the years and never commission anyone anymore.
As someone who does lots of commission work (mostly 3d stuff), much of which is for furries, I am constantly and consistently surprised by how much they are willing to pay. I’ve had times where they just throw in DOUBLE the amount of money because they thought my work was deserving of it. Just a few days ago I was discussing a 2 part project with a client and after I named my price for it, they said “okay, and how much for the second half?” I was gonna do the WHOLE THING for that much, but they decided to pay that, plus more than double the original amount for the second half of the project. And honestly, out of all of my clients, the furries have been by FAR the nicest and most understanding. Plus they’re pretty familiar with how commissions generally go down so they’re always easy to work with
My first commission was from a newer artist, and they made a full ref sheet for me for only *$40.* I was ready to shell out double that amount for a ref sheet, and honestly I felt they deserved it after I saw how much time and care went into their work, but I was scared they'd see it as an insult since the #1 rule of commissioning is to not fight an artist on their prices. I honestly regret not offering them higher for their work in hindsight
@@SephelionsOh yes, that's a good rule. Never argue with an artist about the prices of their work. It always ends badly and it's always worth the money
@@Sephelions I just 'tip' them up to at least top boost them to close to normal value. If most folk are charge $100+ for refs, and a new commissioner who is clearly very talented charges me $40, I'ma AT LEAST give them a 40 tip to boost them to 80. And then still feel bad and lightly suggest they boost their prices. A few times I've actually said to artists like "wow your art is great, normally people charge twice this, you should consider charging more" and they've then upped their charge and still found success. It's a great feeling to encourage an artist and then see them have the confidence to raise prices :D
Furry: "Do you commission furry art?" Artist: "Yes, I can" Furry: "Great! Unrelated question, do you have any college debt?" Artist: "Yea, actually. It's such a probl-" Furry: "You don't anymore :)"
Once, due to problems with my main job, I didn't have enough money to pay the rent. Furry customer, which ordered commission, donated me 460 bucks after I finished their drawing. It was even more than missing amount.
I genuinely think that the history that the furry community has had with such extreme bullying and unkindness--and I don't believe it's a coincidence that the bullying has happened to a community is near-entirely made up of queer, mentally ill, and/or disabled people--has led to creating I think possibly the most empathetic and radically compassionate internet communities ever. I would argue most fandoms aren't really communities in a real sense of what that word means, but furries are on a whole other level.
I had this EXACT experience. Almost $40 for a piece, and he insisted on paying up front. I finished it the next day, and he was so patient with me while we were waiting on cashapp to verify my account!! Furries are always 10/10 the BEST commissioners
a friend of mine once, early on in their career of being an internet artist, had a furry pay in full upfront, finished the piece in a couple days, and got paid the full amount again when the client got the piece. they tried their best to refuse, saying how they already got paid and all, but the furry was so insistent on paying again idk why furries get the rep they do, but they know how to treat an artist
@@jewbearidk we like giving people things that can help, and a lot of the time that happens to be money Me personally, I just like helping people out that try to help me, and giving things to people is always fun too cuz they always are happier afterwards
@@finndabwey3093 Yeah, people only really notice the WIERD furries, because they're so obviously furries, and they kind of miss the most of us furries just cheerfully blend in to the background of normalcy, because we're not so blatant and obvious.
I met KeKe at Anthrocon, awesome person! There was a whole Line and he didn't leave until everyone got a free Commission, even then when the dealers den closed he went out to the Lobby to continue to draw. Such an Amazing person and I can't wait to see you again!!
I didn't neccesarily "meet" him there but I went to a couple events he was at! I absolutely ADORED that they dislayed his animations everywhere in the con
I'd assume furries are nice because they so rarely get treated with respect and kindness. Many see furries as weird and creepy, so when someone actually accepts furries, they are happily surprised.
Tbh, Furries are actually sweethearts when it comes to commissions, I always feel bad bc sometimes they have offered me like 80 dollars for just like a small little drawing and when I try to refuse they just lost a paragraph on why I deserve it
I read somewhere that the collective GDP of the furry fandom is roughly that of a small country. Furries are hella rich and hella ethical about making sure artists get paid what they're worth. The art, crafting, and fursuit/cosplay side of that culture is full of good eggs.
@@Skeleton_With_VR I’ve literally never met a furry that actually likes animals, zoophiles are not welcome in the furry community, we all hate them. Zoophiles try to identify as furries to gain some backing on a super positive and kind community but they are not welcome.
As someone who _may or may not be a furry_ I can say that the furry fandom is filled with really nice people like this, it’s mostly a very wholesome and appreciative fandom when it comes to artists and all that jazz
Funny anecdote about furries: in the beginning of the Internet, some companies were recruiting IT staff in furries conventions because they were usually the same people knowledgeable enough to maintain technical infrastructure for their online communities. Lots of cool people, for sure. Very open-minded and respectful (and sometimes surprisingly rich).
Yes! Many of the furries in the early days were very tech savvy! They had to be as the best (and sometimes only way) to gather was primitive online message boards.
honestly, even as a part time artist, like im literally just self taught, doodling in my free time, no real experience artist... this is very true. people asking for fursona/furry oc art are always the most generous, patient, kind, and responsive when you have questions about certain details and they always have tons of refs to help out.
I can vouch for this, i literally have a Google drive with ALL my commissioned artwork of Kane (my sona) on hand in case people need references. As for patience, i reassure people that there is no deadline and that they can work at their own pace, good art takes time and putting stress on a *real human being* is (for the lack of a better word) cruel.
and @tiredideabox : any tips on getting commissions? Everything I've done has just come up as silence or as people looking for free art or animations... :(
Shout out to the Reference Artists. They're the real MVPs of the furry art community. It's some of the hardest, most detail-oriented art you can work on because you're literally designing someone's internet identity, and it's the sheet that they'll hand to EVERY OTHER ARTIST they work with in the future. I got so lucky when I commissioned a woman new to the fandom to do my character reference and she under charged me for her work. Tipped her $50 and now I tell everyone that they need to go see her for art if they're interested in dragons.
"A good commission is done with care!" *"Just don't take a year to make it please"* Ooof, my stomach just dropped from that. Been a victim of that far to often lol.
@@oatstealer5075 Normally I'd just extend sympathy but... you're positive they're still alive right? After the panorama across the globe, gotta check in on that. (If they're still with us and just haven't delivered still, oof.)
@@sonicmeerkat Oh, absolutely. I'm just saying asking them if they're alive is valid lol. And if they ignore you then, they're either ghosting or gone. Same difference.
The furry fandom is literally a giant group of people who all love art and (for some) dressing up as a cute fluffy critter. Most furries are like. The nicest people on earth. Normies just get the crazy stories because its so sensational. Its a huge fandom, there are definitely crazies, but most furries are really chill and nice.
"Hey! Don't make fun of furries." "why not?" "if they can afford a ten thousand dollar fursuit, they can afford a ten dollar pipe bomb in my mailbox." The words I live by. Edit: this is a reference and I am a furry
"The Furry Commission" at this point is a rite of passage. If it's someone like this, it's incredible. If it's not someone like this, you begin to understand why it is a rite of passage.
@@mx.menacing yeh I feel like it's not so much that furries are rich as it that furries put alot of time, effort and money into their passion, as most fandoms do rly. BUT bc it's not some big single franchize, that money goes to indie creators rather than some corporation, so it becomes alot more apparent to ppl how much money furries spend than it might be when looking at Star Trek fans n such. And a community that's built on indie creators of course have a bigger appreciation for them, less of that customer service entitlement and/or expectations of grandeur.
@@mx.menacing the bougie furries have the highest visibility, since ppl worship wealth they get waved around as the reason to not irrationally hate us for existing i honestly cant relate to overpaid IT ppl (furry or not) who seemingly only ever talk about their overpriced gadgets and/or stonks, and its kinda annoying when clueless ppl assume i'm loaded like them, but theyre giving us good optics within the existing hierarchy and getting artists paid so hey 🤷
YES! I CAN AGREE WITH IT PERFECTLY!!! When me and my family were passing through some hardships, I opened comission slots and two ppl from the furry community messaged me! They were so kind to me, and didn't give me any trouble at all!! I just love this community hehehe
Which makes you wonder how a good chunk of the furry community is so kind and nice, yet because of a few niche media stereotypes, suddenly every furry is considered a sexual deviant.
@@MawileLover I wish the internet DIDNT hate furries to begin with. Its just a normal thing on the internet for people to dislike furries in their entirity, and that sucks. And this is coming from someone who isnt one.
Watching this made me realize that not everybody hates us, and that sometimes I can be open about being what I am. Thank you, for being so wholesome constantly and helping me when I was sad multiple times. Keep making people smile, dude!
It reminds me of a post I read a while ago, about someone who said they loved the furry community and whom was made fun of becaause of that. The reason was OP was once in a financial crisis and a furry came to them asking for a costume commission and paid the full price (furry costumes are expensive as hell) while being vey supportive. This post made me change my POV on the furry community, I only thought they were freaks or... morally reprehensible people before, now I know there are some extremely wholesome individuals out there
They live in two worlds if you think about it. The furry world, where they get to express who they are and what they like. And the real world, where they can get to be from very shy to very outgoing, and have to hide a part of themselves that would make them vulnerable of being constantly judged. But most of them are amazing to meet and talk to. I had my experiences, hahahah
@@LstBrth the only way I can express myself irl and not be judged is to put animal crossing stickers on my laptop Oh but I don’t actually mind that much, I’m pretty shy irl anyways
The 'morally reprehensible' people are dead to furries for the most part. If you mention them furries will be livid on the fact that those people aren't welcome.
@@Jadefennec That's good to know, I am not a part of the community so I don't know how much it has changed but I can imagine how the bad reputation of some has influenced changes among furries (in a good way) (Does that even make sense ? I... I don't know-)
most of the community is actually wholesome individuals! its just that the bad folk speak numbers unfortunally, and the haters tend to only focus on the very small majority of bad folk to make it seem theres more than there actually is. theres always going to be some bad apples amoung the fresh pile, yknow?
this reminds me of the dude that was in the army. he was decommissioned but his friends wanted a picture of him, however his uniform was already taken from him so he wore his fursuit instead
This actually made me tear up in the end. I was once a furry but was shamed and laughed at so much that I eventually stopped identifying as one. It included some people I called friends, even my own brother. I don't understand why people think they're bad, it was such a nice community. Even though I stopped calling myself a furry, I'm still in and following the community, looking at the art, suits, and fun stuff they're up to. And personally, I love taking commissions from them. I just hope people can leave them be, yknow? Like if you don't like furries, just look the other way, no reason to give them a hard time because they're different.
Man, that's gotta suck. I pretty much have become a furry since the start of the pandemic and I still have yet to really express that part of me, but I hope it doesn't go the same way as it did with you.
@Google Slides The world of anti-social media (it's generally NOT social media) is not the window through which to truly know Furries. The difference is that, in person, you will find you can be more of yourself than you would in other situations. You might still feel shy and socially awkward, but less so. You'll find, over time, that you express more of yourself, though some furmeets can be cliqueish and difficult. Just because we're Furries doesn't mean we've managed to shed all of the terrible habits the world told us to take up. I met two households of Furries (one middle class, one not so middle class), but both of those houses, though crowded, also lived interactive lifestyles with one another that I (not yet a Furry then) found amazing. Now I live in a house with four other Furries; I borrowed the pattern I saw. The person who lives with us who is least Furry once said to me, "I really envy how you live." Part of hte reason Furries get shit is because actually our fursonas (can) change how we exist in the world, as more outgoing, agreeable, emotionally stable, conscientious than we once were (research proves this). It's not perfect, it's not a solution to everything, but it's definitely better and far more ideal than the world as it is.
See me personally when I get the furry hate I'm just like "ey come on man be a bit more mature" unless they're a child in which case I just start killing them over and over cause that's usually effective, ah bullying children never gets old
Friendly reminder this was originally titled the curry commission It's good to remember we all make mistakes and to love the hell out of the fun ones ;3
"Just don't take years to make it, please." Wish I could be this blunt with artists sometimes. I just sit around and wait forever like "I'm sure they're working on it...I don't want to bother them."
This is the real struggle. A few months is fine, but when it gets past a year, its the most awkward thing ever to try and approach em. Like, I don't want to feel like I'm calling them a thief or such, but its gonna come off a bit like that no matter what with such a time gap. and it's even worse when they legitimately just forgot about it, and then it's done in like a day after ya remind em.
Deadass. Bother them. As someone with amnesia, someone will come up to me and be like "so um I commissioned you a month ago..." It might be worth a bit of bothering.
I’m still waiting after two (now almost three) years for people to do their halves of art trades 😭 I don’t wanna be pushy but I know for a fact they ARENT doing it, saying I’ve ‘given up trying’ is an understatement at this point
Please bother us artist- not a lot- but yes it does get akward if we forget cause then we finish in the next day after feeling horrible for doing so. Basicly, don't push artists around, but please, please, when commisioning, if it's been a while, it never hurts to check in or start up a little small talk even just to remind them. Especially if they get a lot of commisions, sometimes it gets lost, and sometimes it can even be a lack of motivation. Lots of reasons, but again, never be afraid to apporach. It's litterally the worst when someone reminds you months later of a commision they forgot and then us artists are just over here like, "oH My gOd, i'M SO sOrrY- CRAP-" We'll freaking sppedrun that commision to make up for a mistake in all honnesty.
Sometimes people forget that if someone can afford a fur suit, then if they ask for anything for money, weird or not, your gonna get a pretty nice payment
Some of us can’t even afford a fursuit. That’s why we do commissions in the first place! It makes us smile to know that our favorite artist was willing to make a drawing of our character that we hold so dearly.
It also has a lot to do with “Furries will spend more than they should on furry shit.” Trust me, we aren’t all rich, we just have terrible self control.
Sorry, had to correct the title "The Curry commission" phone love to autocorrect furry into curry haha! To the few who seen the curry title, congratz xD
Furries are two extremes, extremely weird, and extremely kind and supportive. Seriously, I've never met more kind folk on the internet or in real life.
Aw, i really needed that "don't understimate yourself as an artist" i've been feeling pretty stressed lately about my drawings, this was incredibly nice to watch!❤️
You got this! I believe in you, and so does the 231 other people and future peeps who like your comment! Everyone has their own style of art, but what makes an artist a true artist is if it brings them joy!
Always remember, you are a person worth more than many people think. Dont let bullies and spiteful people take your dignity, you are great and an enrichment in your own personal way. Keep on going and if you feel down sometimes, try to smile and think of your good times to cheer up. If that isnt enough, share your worries with friends, they may be able to help you out ;)
No cuz I was so anxious of opening commissions just in case I'll get rude clients or scammed because of all the horror stories I heard , But because I only sell furry art I havent had that issue as of now , they've all been kind, patient, and some were extremely generous I was taken at back at first :")
Furries are literally some of the most sweetest and kindest people I’ve ever met, it sucks that they have such a bad reputation because of the like, 1% of very vocal weirdos…
Yeah… They really do have a bad reputation because of those weirdos, some even get harassed for nothing! And people record themselves harassing them (for no reason) and others think it’s “chadlike”. Wow.
I was a furry artist for 4 years and I can confirm this is true. All of my clients have been so patient and nice! Even people who give suggestions to my art do so respectfully
The respect and talent in the furry commissioning community is like, legendary. Not that things never go wrong and there are no bad actors, more that this is a thing I’ve heard about for years before I had any furry interactions This is like a textbook furry commissions an artist interaction, and I love that
i have a friend who got a commission from a furry and then said furry tipped them, like, $80 when they were done. huge respect for how respectful and responsible furries are
"Just don't take years to finish it." My god this is so accurate. I felt this in my soul. Everyone who's commissioned art in the furry community has had this happen at least once, I swear.
I have to admit this happened to me before(as the artist) but i had serious mental problems that set me back in my progress. It literally handicapped me and i needed to relearn to draw basically. But i did finish the comission and it ended up looking better then the one the comissioner asked for
See, most people think that the fandom is like... bad, or just mediocre at best, but I feel like this shines the light on the side that needs it the most. The internet has a way of finding the negative and using that as the stereotype, I suppose..
As a greymuzzle, I'd recommend not interacting with people digitally as a first or only resort. I know it can be awkward and worrisome to meet with people face to face. COVID hasn't helped this, but I've always found that the most meaningful interactions with Furries are offline ones, at furmeets, conventions, just in everyday life. I wear a tail all the time, so sometimes randomly people just start talking to me, sometimes they're Furries.
You see, the negative part you say isnt just a small minority, its most of the community. Yes there is good people but its half and half, half are weirdos, half are quite nice,
@@pwrsocket Since you're not being nice, that puts you in the weirdo category. Also, you don't have actual numbers, so why offer them? Furries are less representative of gross and weird people in general and online.
This reminds me of my first commission I took on, the customer was so happy he gave me a 60% tip and to this day the thought puts a smile on my face. It's very true not to underestimate yourself as an artist. Great animation as always, Keke.
As a small time artist who doesn't typically draw furries, this is such an accurate portrayal of my personal experience working on a furry commission. I only have two such experience working on furry comm and in both cases, 1. The client had a drive link full of reference for their OC 2. Offered to pay upfront (which I did decline saying how I'd rather have them pay once they're satisfied with my WIP) 3. Was super patient with me and gave me a lot of time 4. Was super grateful after receiving the artwork and told me to not doubt my skills. 5. Paid me double my asking price saying how it was a tip for doing such a good job. They really made my whole week! And I thought I was just lucky but after seeing this video, seems like this is an actual thing. God bless them!
A furry saved my life once, so I had a fairly positive view on them from the outset. Some friends of mine said some odd things about them as a community later in life when I brought up the subject, so I decided to do my own research. From what I found, the furry community was, and remains, largely a kind, caring, educational, and open community. They are also exceedingly generous to charities and artists. They have a few outliers and bad eggs, but no more so than any other group. In fact, between their charitable donations to hospitals and commissioning starving artists, they can really only be seen as a net positive in my eyes.
@@MikeyFazboi I was fixing houses as part of a middle school charity program one summer in the mountains of West Virginia. One day on my way to the house we were fixing, I got ahead of my group and spotted a man on his porch under a giant confederate flag. It was at least 10 feet tall, covering the entire second floor on the face of the house. I was a young, sheltered black northerner so I didn’t know what that flag meant. My teacher at the time had told me to ask the next person I saw with a confederate flag what it meant to them today when I asked him after we covered the confederacy in History. The flag-covered porch was overflowing with sleepy dogs, which in my naive mind meant he was a good enough person to keep dogs happy, and therefore safe. The people in town had also been very kind to me so far. I decided to ask him what his flag meant to him. He asked me to come over and talk to him about it, so I did. Then he leveled a shotgun at me that he’s been hiding behind the porch’s supporting column. He started ranting loudly about something. I could tell he was passionate, and offended, but I couldn’t hear him, all of my focus was down the barrel of that gun. He got louder, angrier, and stood up from his rocking chair, and took more careful aim at me. Maybe I didn’t answer a question he asked me? Still not sure. That’s when my white, furry friend saved me. She ran up and stood between me and the gunman, apologized for both of us, and backed me off of the guy’s property. She stayed between me and him until we rounded the corner at the end of the street. If she hadn’t been there right then, and been brave enough to risk her own life for my stupid mistake, I would be dead. Based on what I’m told he was yelling before my friend arrived, she 100% saved my life.
@@kyr58 Interesting read. If only that reached local news. Then there would be less of a negative impression of the community. I'm curious, though. Are you still friends with her?
@@Victinitotodilepro Hey, remember that mall shooting in Greenwood, Indiana? Wanna guess what the hero had that saved dozens of lives? A gun! Crazy how that works huh? It's almost like people are the problem! Like some weird nutter who illegally points shotguns at people who probably should've been arrested and doesn't at all reflect how right-leaning people are.
Not all furries are like what you hear about them guys, most of them are just people that chill, love art and have a great time with others. There is small groups of furries that ruin it for every single other fur. So give the normal people in the fandom a chance everybody
Everyone wonders why furries are suspiciously wealthy, but I think I know why and the answer is right here really. When you find someone who is new to furries and you treat them like this, they are likely to keep coming to furries for support, and when they find continuous support in the community they are more likely to give what they get as learning the culture of the fandom. Really being a furry isnt just being part of a community but being part of a semi-independent economic system of people who actually value each others work fairly and often, which drives furries to keep doing what they love while keeping people away who think its weird and wouldnt benefit from or benefit the drive of it all. Perhaps we can go deeper and say this was the plan of Disney and other companies to fund people with this mindset to make more money themself, but that could be a bit of a conspiracy and this is just a UA-cam comment, but I just freaking love furries and they always find a way to amaze me by basically running the internet!
dude that's awesome!! I honestly didn't know much about the community except the negative stuff you can find everywhere, but this plus a few other positive videos have shown me a whole other side! this was such a cute and uplifting story, posted on my birthday too!
I'm a furry artist and had mostly bad interactions with people begging for free art and trying to scam me. 😔 But every now and then there'll be one or two really awesome people who tip generously. One even asked to pick up a commission that someone else abandoned and payed the full amount. That was nice. ✨️
Oh, my god, this was so heartwarming and wholesome... This is exactly the kind of context that my troubled soul was longing for. Such a genuine and personal touch to it. ♡
As a furry and furry artist myself, all i can say it's totally true! Somehow most of the commissioners are wholesome beans, that is super nice to work with.
Reading these top comments, it's so nice seeing the furry community actually having so many people with a positive attitude to it. It's made my day seeing, even if there are a lot of others who think it's weird or whatever, that so many people are so chill about it still ❤️
When people actually meet Furries in person, rather than dealing only through the lens of online trolldom, Furries find out people don't hate them as much as they tend to imagine.
Any time I see a drawing of a giant Falco, it warms my heart to know it was commissioned by a certain someone who went out of their way to find a little-known artist in need and pay them generously.
@@pwrsocket have you counted every single piece of art in existence pertaining to anthropomorphic animals and sorted it all onto r34 and non r34 to be able to provide such a bold statement?
Furries are low-key some of the most accepting people ever. Gender? Age? Race? Orientation? They could *not* care less. Most of them are so sweet, too! Not in the 'spam uwu' sense, but legit are some of the most selfless people I have met. I don't know who the general pop has been interacting with, but furries are gold a dozen.
probably the ones furries didn't have time to set the scenario perfectly and had to see it natural. plus i seen furries discriminate on all those things its not even rare to see it. hating younger furries who having seen what they do to be compliant, hatred of straight people and you know what race.
@@zeosummers3984 Well there's a difference, teens going through a phase and letting loose since they don't actually understand the world- and people who think stylized animals and animal-like things are neat. What you're describing sounds like a generic twitter user.
@@zeosummers3984 that happens but it doesn't define the whole. most furries are respectful and don't do those things you mentioned. (but I have seen what you mentioned happen so I don't disagree) I just disagree with the idea that all are like that
One of my artist friends loves when a furry comes along to commission because they usually have many references or are able to communicate well what they want (if it's like a new character ref sheet), tip well and show off their new art a lot with the artist attached.
Finally, positive rep! I've talked to enough kids to know just how crazy the rumours about being a furry is. No, not all furries wear fursuits. No, not all of us want to act like animals. No, being a furry doesn't mean we want to screw animals. I don't even interact with the fandom other than watching blackie sootfur and being in a friend's tiny server. It honestly feels like more of an artstyle than a community at times.
@@k-marketmuotiala4801 it's juste enjoying anthro characters like Po or Tigress, Nick Wilde and more :) having a fursona isn't mandatory tho the majority of us have one!
@@sweetzeyraa Not a furry myself, but gonna have to disagree. You very much can like Po or Tigress without being a furry, in my opinion. Or do you mean like be hella into every anthro character just because they're anthro? Cuz many movies and other media often have characters that are human-like, but not literally human (Cars from the Cars Movies etc.), so I think pretty much everyone would be a furry or a carry or something similar by that definition. I really appreciate the answer, tho.
@@k-marketmuotiala4801 it's a bit hard to describe but it's just an interest. It's no different than any other fandom in those terms. It's a community of people who share an interest in animals with human aspects and proportions. In fact, the whole community was founded from a small group of people who enjoyed drawing anthro animals in the late 40s (they were known as the Funny Animals Fandom before it was transformed into the Furry Fandom)
i think a good reason as to why furries really take good care of commisions is because being an artist is genuine hard work, and getting drawings of your characters is even harder. i myself have been living off of free samples and sketches for a good couple years, but i'll definitely get into the commission game one day.
I try my hardest to be an excellent client, especially when I'm working with an artist in a difficult financial situation. Never take advantage of low starting prices; if you feel on instinct what you're paying doesn't appropriately value the quality of the work you've received, offer more. You will most certainly feel very personally fulfilled even if your wallet is a bit lighter. Do not do too frequent check-ins! It obviously depends on estimates, but it's usually acceptable to check in about weekly, but make sure you checked with the artist beforehand whether they're starting immediately or if they're working on backlogged commissions and if yours will be started a bit later! Also, if you're going to check in, make sure the artist is healthy physically and mentally. You always need to be willing to give grace when it comes to the artist's well-being, both because it would be unethical to do otherwise, and because it can impact the quality of the final result! If the work isn't what you hoped, do not be *harsh* with your criticism, be *precise*. It can hurt to pay well for something you don't like very much, and you may think it'll hurt to have their work criticized, but this probably isn't their first rodeo. Just make sure you're using constructive terminology and avoiding negative connotations! It's okay to ask for corrections, but there is a balance! Consider how long things can take to re-draw. Try drafting the concept got the piece beforehand, or using references; either way, make sure you are firm about the concept, because asking for something at dramatic as a change in pose or setting after the scene is already being illustrated would be a bit rediculous! Even if it looks silly because you can't draw, it's okay! The artist will most likely always appreciate some direction with a rough draft, especially because it can be assurance that they won't have to make too many changes down the line! (this is all I can really think of right now, but feel free to reply some other good suggestions! remember to be good clients owo)
honestly, thank you for this guide :) It may seem like common sense, and even tho I think of myself as someone nice, it is still good to have a reminder of proper manner with stranger doing their best 😁
I once payed $400 for an artwork I hated. It took so long and there were pretty much no communitcion or updates and it came out so ugly I can't stand looking at it. Still, I didn't complain. I just paid him his money and left. why? because I'm not an asshole.
It’s so refreshing to see a furry-positive piece of media. It’s so easy to just call the fandom weird and disregard it entirely because it’s so seemingly different from everything else.
i think theres something to be said about the capacity to anthropomorphize things (in this case, animals) leading to the development of a particularly strong sense of empathy. being that anthropomorphization is extending human characteristics onto non-human things. and then it goes without saying that people with a lot of empathy generally are kind to others.
The furry fandom is usually seen as weird and gross, but on the inside is a bunch of kind hearted people who care about each other. Thank you Keke for showing the world how caring our community really can be!
I got some fucked up art myself. But still. I don't harm a single one. :P Everyone does stupid shit in life. Just don't harm anyone else by it and you're fine. Also, what's so bad about me getting commissions for fucked up art someone else 'enjoys'. ;)
It's not my "fursona" or anything like that, but I'm writing a book about just an incredibly adorable centipede and I commission quite a lot of art about her. Not a lot of artists have experience drawing bugs like that! So whenever I find one, I pay more than they ask for and give a tip. Artists are awesome.
Sure! I'd post a link but that isn't working for some reason. It's called Shedling on RoyalRoad, if you want to look it up - there may not be much, but it's free to read.
As a person who just recently signed up for some furry communities I confirm that they are so so soooo nice! Sure there are some weirdos but every community has that small group of assholes that gives them a bad rep. Furries though are majorly very polite and respectful and I love their community already. I feel so sad I'm not very much into anthro so I don't exactly belong there!
You can be a furry even if your not that into antro stuff! There's no qualifications, its more of a label to help yourself feel in the right place and right community! It's ok if you don't though, I can understand why you wouldn't tbh.
I always had a negative perception of furries, but then one of my roommates I moved in with was one and I realized that nah, they are actually super chill people. Also, Fighting games are really popular in that community, so I had a friend to play Guilty Gear and SSBM with :)
as a furry, i must say thank you for doing this. not only has it made me feel better as an artist with the "dont underestimate yourself" but it also paints the furry fandom as really nice peeps. and i can confirm that they make sure people get paid for their worth but i must warn you there are some people out there who are trying to make profit off the fandom and being scammy. make sure to read seller/buyer bewares! they exist to help you out and avoid the bad eggs out there
At first I thought this was going to be a joke surrounding the stigmatized side of the furry community, but what came of it was much more light hearted and wholesome than I anticipated and it was an enjoyable 2:20s, and the design of the commissioner really sold the wholesome part of the video, they just look so sweet and welcoming. I needed this :)
Also message for the furries if you see it: Keep being awesome! Really, so many people who join the fandom can feel better about themselves and jeep advancing, a friend of mine so full of anxiety and stress is now cured thanks to joining the fandom and meating (Meeting autocorrect!) Friends!
Please don't meat your friends. Its bad to meat your friends. Friends are not meat.
Your wholesome keep it that way
💚 c:
@@watewmark fish are friends, not food
Thank you, finally someone said this! Being a furry was the best decision I’ve ever made. Making fursonas and drawing them really keeps the sadness away.
That “But please don’t take years to finish it” is definitely a legit worry lol.
we've seen it too much to make a point of it.
@peter shut
Being neurodivergent with strong lack of motivation issues, i've definitely done that...
I'm really ashamed of it really.
@@corruptedteka hey, relax. an open line of communication can at least save your bacon from time to time. people, furry or not, do value honesty, after all.
You can bet they do take years, and that's if you're lucky.
Usually they take the money and run. I've been burned by several artists over the years and never commission anyone anymore.
As someone who does lots of commission work (mostly 3d stuff), much of which is for furries, I am constantly and consistently surprised by how much they are willing to pay. I’ve had times where they just throw in DOUBLE the amount of money because they thought my work was deserving of it.
Just a few days ago I was discussing a 2 part project with a client and after I named my price for it, they said “okay, and how much for the second half?”
I was gonna do the WHOLE THING for that much, but they decided to pay that, plus more than double the original amount for the second half of the project.
And honestly, out of all of my clients, the furries have been by FAR the nicest and most understanding. Plus they’re pretty familiar with how commissions generally go down so they’re always easy to work with
Did you mention (edit: to thee commissioner) that you thought the initial price was for the full 2 part piece instead of only the first?
When 80% of your fandom lives and dies by visual media, you learn to respect the makers or risk the community collapsing.
My first commission was from a newer artist, and they made a full ref sheet for me for only *$40.* I was ready to shell out double that amount for a ref sheet, and honestly I felt they deserved it after I saw how much time and care went into their work, but I was scared they'd see it as an insult since the #1 rule of commissioning is to not fight an artist on their prices. I honestly regret not offering them higher for their work in hindsight
@@SephelionsOh yes, that's a good rule. Never argue with an artist about the prices of their work. It always ends badly and it's always worth the money
@@Sephelions I just 'tip' them up to at least top boost them to close to normal value. If most folk are charge $100+ for refs, and a new commissioner who is clearly very talented charges me $40, I'ma AT LEAST give them a 40 tip to boost them to 80. And then still feel bad and lightly suggest they boost their prices.
A few times I've actually said to artists like "wow your art is great, normally people charge twice this, you should consider charging more" and they've then upped their charge and still found success. It's a great feeling to encourage an artist and then see them have the confidence to raise prices :D
Furry: "Do you commission furry art?"
Artist: "Yes, I can"
Furry: "Great! Unrelated question, do you have any college debt?"
Artist: "Yea, actually. It's such a probl-"
Furry: "You don't anymore :)"
Once, due to problems with my main job, I didn't have enough money to pay the rent. Furry customer, which ordered commission, donated me 460 bucks after I finished their drawing. It was even more than missing amount.
I genuinely think that the history that the furry community has had with such extreme bullying and unkindness--and I don't believe it's a coincidence that the bullying has happened to a community is near-entirely made up of queer, mentally ill, and/or disabled people--has led to creating I think possibly the most empathetic and radically compassionate internet communities ever. I would argue most fandoms aren't really communities in a real sense of what that word means, but furries are on a whole other level.
man I'm a 3d artist with huge debt and this really makes me think... is 3d art popular in the furry community?
@@just1it1moko It defienetly is! Especially character model for things like VR Chat, but even 3D art in general is appreciated
The series of events that has transpired will lead to a major change in the future, be warned.
I had this EXACT experience. Almost $40 for a piece, and he insisted on paying up front. I finished it the next day, and he was so patient with me while we were waiting on cashapp to verify my account!! Furries are always 10/10 the BEST commissioners
a friend of mine once, early on in their career of being an internet artist, had a furry pay in full upfront, finished the piece in a couple days, and got paid the full amount again when the client got the piece. they tried their best to refuse, saying how they already got paid and all, but the furry was so insistent on paying again
idk why furries get the rep they do, but they know how to treat an artist
@@jewbearidk Speaking as an average furry, it is because the extremely wierd 11% of us is way more noticeable than the fairly normal 89%.
@@GuukanKitsune yeah that’s pretty fairly accurate
@@jewbearidk we like giving people things that can help, and a lot of the time that happens to be money
Me personally, I just like helping people out that try to help me, and giving things to people is always fun too cuz they always are happier afterwards
@@finndabwey3093 Yeah, people only really notice the WIERD furries, because they're so obviously furries, and they kind of miss the most of us furries just cheerfully blend in to the background of normalcy, because we're not so blatant and obvious.
I met KeKe at Anthrocon, awesome person! There was a whole Line and he didn't leave until everyone got a free Commission, even then when the dealers den closed he went out to the Lobby to continue to draw. Such an Amazing person and I can't wait to see you again!!
@Nitra oh no
@Nitra "Hehe and I'll put THEM as the NERD EMOJI so they look stupid!!! Hyukhyukhyuk-"
I didn't neccesarily "meet" him there but I went to a couple events he was at! I absolutely ADORED that they dislayed his animations everywhere in the con
@peter Thanks for the memes Peter
@Pensive Think of the gains people would get if they merged. ;)
I'd assume furries are nice because they so rarely get treated with respect and kindness. Many see furries as weird and creepy, so when someone actually accepts furries, they are happily surprised.
I'm a furry and I approve this comment as a true thing
This is so true omg...
I'll never accept them. :)
@@DoodleCherry ok
@@DoodleCherry They are disgusting rats ill never accept them either
Tbh, Furries are actually sweethearts when it comes to commissions, I always feel bad bc sometimes they have offered me like 80 dollars for just like a small little drawing and when I try to refuse they just lost a paragraph on why I deserve it
@@pwrsocket Because GunsAndMobile isn't someone egoist
@@pwrsocket"scam" it's a generous person supporting an artist.
@@pwrsocketI expect to see some Hater here and get dunk now im happy
the appreciation a furry has for art is unrivaled
No doubt, they are the new patrons of art
Shskkxsj gosh I’ve spent so much money on art of my fursona
It’s very worth it
They're just art patrons like of the old
*the amount of money
There's in incredible amount of suspiciously wealthy furries
I read somewhere that the collective GDP of the furry fandom is roughly that of a small country. Furries are hella rich and hella ethical about making sure artists get paid what they're worth. The art, crafting, and fursuit/cosplay side of that culture is full of good eggs.
They’re also often keeping the digital infrastructure of society afloat, like as their job
But their not very ethical about… you know… wanting to… be with… animals
Meanwhile I keep getting stuffed by my fellow furries.
@@Skeleton_With_VR I’ve literally never met a furry that actually likes animals, zoophiles are not welcome in the furry community, we all hate them. Zoophiles try to identify as furries to gain some backing on a super positive and kind community but they are not welcome.
Suspiciously wealthy
As someone who _may or may not be a furry_ I can say that the furry fandom is filled with really nice people like this, it’s mostly a very wholesome and appreciative fandom when it comes to artists and all that jazz
Okay buddy
are you sure?
are you sure you aren't a furry ALaughingWolf2188?
are you absolutely sure you may not be a furry?
As a furry, I get bullied online obscenely often. Seeing this and all the kind words in the comments restores a little bit of my faith in humanity.
You deserve it.
@@AA-cf4es deserve what, may I ask
Furries deserve to be bullied. End of story.
damn, im sorry. the people making fun of furries are worse than how they think the entire furry community are
Its Sad to Think that before i hated furrys, but then i took a better look and found out that they are Nice people in general
Funny anecdote about furries: in the beginning of the Internet, some companies were recruiting IT staff in furries conventions because they were usually the same people knowledgeable enough to maintain technical infrastructure for their online communities.
Lots of cool people, for sure. Very open-minded and respectful (and sometimes surprisingly rich).
im starting to think, maybe the it guys are furries since from what i know their freelance jobs pays well
Yes! Many of the furries in the early days were very tech savvy! They had to be as the best (and sometimes only way) to gather was primitive online message boards.
There's a huge overlap between furries and IT because there's a huge overlap of IT and introverts that use the internet all the time.
"I'm just here for a job I PROMISE!!!"
"Surprisingly" wait till you find out how much those fursuits cost
You can’t deny their passion
@Don't read profile photo you did it again didnt you xd 👌
Look at all the bots lol
"Passion"
Yeah. Sure.
@@abloogywoogywoo I don't think you understand what that means.
@@randomviewer391 I don't think you understand condescending satire.
honestly, even as a part time artist, like im literally just self taught, doodling in my free time, no real experience artist... this is very true. people asking for fursona/furry oc art are always the most generous, patient, kind, and responsive when you have questions about certain details and they always have tons of refs to help out.
I can vouch for this, i literally have a Google drive with ALL my commissioned artwork of Kane (my sona) on hand in case people need references.
As for patience, i reassure people that there is no deadline and that they can work at their own pace, good art takes time and putting stress on a *real human being* is (for the lack of a better word) cruel.
and @tiredideabox : any tips on getting commissions? Everything I've done has just come up as silence or as people looking for free art or animations... :(
Shout out to the Reference Artists. They're the real MVPs of the furry art community. It's some of the hardest, most detail-oriented art you can work on because you're literally designing someone's internet identity, and it's the sheet that they'll hand to EVERY OTHER ARTIST they work with in the future. I got so lucky when I commissioned a woman new to the fandom to do my character reference and she under charged me for her work. Tipped her $50 and now I tell everyone that they need to go see her for art if they're interested in dragons.
This is a clear example of how kind we furry can be and that, despite everything, we are human, that's why we should treat each other as family
You guys aren't human anymore
@@Idontwantonegoaway Why do you think we are not human? Does a dog know how to write?
I don't understand what your problem is with us
@@Crystalplus10 nah he is just edgy.
If he doesnt hate furries then he will lose his "sigma" , "gigachad" status😔😨🤯
@@Seracf Ah yes, the unoriginal 13 yr old kid pack. Hating on everything
debt💳 or credit 💳
"Just don't take years to finish it"
*all furries that have commissioned something felt that*
Yeeep.
I not even a furry but I had a comm take over a year before
Hhhhhhhhh I feel it, I waited a year for an art trade… we finished it but boy it was weird
Felt my soul leave my body seeing that.
Been scammed a lot so I feel that in my soul.
"A good commission is done with care!"
*"Just don't take a year to make it please"*
Ooof, my stomach just dropped from that. Been a victim of that far to often lol.
Still waiting on a comission from 2018
@@oatstealer5075 damnnn 💀
@@oatstealer5075 Normally I'd just extend sympathy but... you're positive they're still alive right? After the panorama across the globe, gotta check in on that. (If they're still with us and just haven't delivered still, oof.)
@@DoveJS I mean that spread late 2019, that's still a full year without any progress without a pandemic.
@@sonicmeerkat Oh, absolutely. I'm just saying asking them if they're alive is valid lol. And if they ignore you then, they're either ghosting or gone. Same difference.
The furry fandom is literally a giant group of people who all love art and (for some) dressing up as a cute fluffy critter. Most furries are like. The nicest people on earth. Normies just get the crazy stories because its so sensational. Its a huge fandom, there are definitely crazies, but most furries are really chill and nice.
"Hey! Don't make fun of furries."
"why not?"
"if they can afford a ten thousand dollar fursuit, they can afford a ten dollar pipe bomb in my mailbox."
The words I live by.
Edit: this is a reference and I am a furry
Not where I expected this comment to go but amusing to read all the same
fellow pantsahat enjoyer I see
I make fun of them
@@SandyStJohn expect a parcel soon :D
I live by bullying the cringe I die by bullying the cringe
The virgin NFT "investor" vs the Chad furry commissioner.
"The Furry Commission" at this point is a rite of passage. If it's someone like this, it's incredible. If it's not someone like this, you begin to understand why it is a rite of passage.
Could you please explain? I feel stupid but I don't understand
@@olegoleg258 most of the time you'll have to draw porn and fetishes. And if you don't like them, it can be a disgusting experience.
"So how did you become a furry artist?"
"Two words: Crippling Debt."
One horse dong pays for groceries...
"So how did you become a furry?"
"Two words: Hated Furries"
The pigeon-fox is so huggable, manly, and cute! 🥰
"suspiciously wealthy furries" is a statement that will hold up forever
All my furry friends are low income so idk where people get this statement from.
@@mx.menacing yeh I feel like it's not so much that furries are rich as it that furries put alot of time, effort and money into their passion, as most fandoms do rly.
BUT bc it's not some big single franchize, that money goes to indie creators rather than some corporation, so it becomes alot more apparent to ppl how much money furries spend than it might be when looking at Star Trek fans n such.
And a community that's built on indie creators of course have a bigger appreciation for them, less of that customer service entitlement and/or expectations of grandeur.
Furries run the internet.
I don't know if its actually true from my experience though
the wealthy furries tend to be a small minority
@@mx.menacing the bougie furries have the highest visibility, since ppl worship wealth they get waved around as the reason to not irrationally hate us for existing
i honestly cant relate to overpaid IT ppl (furry or not) who seemingly only ever talk about their overpriced gadgets and/or stonks, and its kinda annoying when clueless ppl assume i'm loaded like them, but theyre giving us good optics within the existing hierarchy and getting artists paid so hey 🤷
YES! I CAN AGREE WITH IT PERFECTLY!!! When me and my family were passing through some hardships, I opened comission slots and two ppl from the furry community messaged me! They were so kind to me, and didn't give me any trouble at all!! I just love this community hehehe
Awwwww this is really sweet to hear :3
And kind of strange. Normally the internet hates us, this whole comment section is new territory.
Which makes you wonder how a good chunk of the furry community is so kind and nice, yet because of a few niche media stereotypes, suddenly every furry is considered a sexual deviant.
@@MawileLover I wish the internet DIDNT hate furries to begin with. Its just a normal thing on the internet for people to dislike furries in their entirity, and that sucks. And this is coming from someone who isnt one.
@@tangytablets5150 I wonder if this at all applies to all stereotypes hmmmmmmm
@don't be surprised OH BROTHER, YOU STINK!!!!
Watching this made me realize that not everybody hates us, and that sometimes I can be open about being what I am. Thank you, for being so wholesome constantly and helping me when I was sad multiple times. Keep making people smile, dude!
holy crap the comments section is actually good this is a miracle
@Onnoes781 yeah but you basically never see that LMAO
if you sort it by newest you get a toxic hellhole
It reminds me of a post I read a while ago, about someone who said they loved the furry community and whom was made fun of becaause of that. The reason was OP was once in a financial crisis and a furry came to them asking for a costume commission and paid the full price (furry costumes are expensive as hell) while being vey supportive. This post made me change my POV on the furry community, I only thought they were freaks or... morally reprehensible people before, now I know there are some extremely wholesome individuals out there
They live in two worlds if you think about it. The furry world, where they get to express who they are and what they like. And the real world, where they can get to be from very shy to very outgoing, and have to hide a part of themselves that would make them vulnerable of being constantly judged. But most of them are amazing to meet and talk to. I had my experiences, hahahah
@@LstBrth the only way I can express myself irl and not be judged is to put animal crossing stickers on my laptop
Oh but I don’t actually mind that much, I’m pretty shy irl anyways
The 'morally reprehensible' people are dead to furries for the most part. If you mention them furries will be livid on the fact that those people aren't welcome.
@@Jadefennec That's good to know, I am not a part of the community so I don't know how much it has changed but I can imagine how the bad reputation of some has influenced changes among furries (in a good way)
(Does that even make sense ? I... I don't know-)
most of the community is actually wholesome individuals! its just that the bad folk speak numbers unfortunally, and the haters tend to only focus on the very small majority of bad folk to make it seem theres more than there actually is. theres always going to be some bad apples amoung the fresh pile, yknow?
Many furries are loaded with money. And people often forget that to be that loaded, you need to be a responsible adult with a proper job.
this reminds me of the dude that was in the army. he was decommissioned but his friends wanted a picture of him, however his uniform was already taken from him so he wore his fursuit instead
I think it’s because a big amount of furries are creative and creative people have more chances to get a good job.
@@crayonzii most furries work in IT and you have to be SMART to work in this field
@@dmorfo4359 also yes!
This is a good take, can't believe I hadn't thought of this
This actually made me tear up in the end. I was once a furry but was shamed and laughed at so much that I eventually stopped identifying as one. It included some people I called friends, even my own brother. I don't understand why people think they're bad, it was such a nice community. Even though I stopped calling myself a furry, I'm still in and following the community, looking at the art, suits, and fun stuff they're up to. And personally, I love taking commissions from them. I just hope people can leave them be, yknow? Like if you don't like furries, just look the other way, no reason to give them a hard time because they're different.
Man, that's gotta suck. I pretty much have become a furry since the start of the pandemic and I still have yet to really express that part of me, but I hope it doesn't go the same way as it did with you.
@@cessnafun5385 welcome to the community man
@Google Slides The world of anti-social media (it's generally NOT social media) is not the window through which to truly know Furries. The difference is that, in person, you will find you can be more of yourself than you would in other situations. You might still feel shy and socially awkward, but less so. You'll find, over time, that you express more of yourself, though some furmeets can be cliqueish and difficult. Just because we're Furries doesn't mean we've managed to shed all of the terrible habits the world told us to take up.
I met two households of Furries (one middle class, one not so middle class), but both of those houses, though crowded, also lived interactive lifestyles with one another that I (not yet a Furry then) found amazing. Now I live in a house with four other Furries; I borrowed the pattern I saw. The person who lives with us who is least Furry once said to me, "I really envy how you live." Part of hte reason Furries get shit is because actually our fursonas (can) change how we exist in the world, as more outgoing, agreeable, emotionally stable, conscientious than we once were (research proves this). It's not perfect, it's not a solution to everything, but it's definitely better and far more ideal than the world as it is.
See me personally when I get the furry hate I'm just like "ey come on man be a bit more mature" unless they're a child in which case I just start killing them over and over cause that's usually effective, ah bullying children never gets old
still think furries are weird.
Friendly reminder this was originally titled the curry commission
It's good to remember we all make mistakes and to love the hell out of the fun ones ;3
Curry Commisions are just restaurants lol
"Just don't take years to make it, please."
Wish I could be this blunt with artists sometimes. I just sit around and wait forever like "I'm sure they're working on it...I don't want to bother them."
This is the real struggle. A few months is fine, but when it gets past a year, its the most awkward thing ever to try and approach em. Like, I don't want to feel like I'm calling them a thief or such, but its gonna come off a bit like that no matter what with such a time gap. and it's even worse when they legitimately just forgot about it, and then it's done in like a day after ya remind em.
Deadass. Bother them.
As someone with amnesia, someone will come up to me and be like "so um I commissioned you a month ago..."
It might be worth a bit of bothering.
I’m still waiting after two (now almost three) years for people to do their halves of art trades 😭 I don’t wanna be pushy but I know for a fact they ARENT doing it, saying I’ve ‘given up trying’ is an understatement at this point
Please bother us artist- not a lot- but yes it does get akward if we forget cause then we finish in the next day after feeling horrible for doing so. Basicly, don't push artists around, but please, please, when commisioning, if it's been a while, it never hurts to check in or start up a little small talk even just to remind them. Especially if they get a lot of commisions, sometimes it gets lost, and sometimes it can even be a lack of motivation. Lots of reasons, but again, never be afraid to apporach. It's litterally the worst when someone reminds you months later of a commision they forgot and then us artists are just over here like, "oH My gOd, i'M SO sOrrY- CRAP-" We'll freaking sppedrun that commision to make up for a mistake in all honnesty.
Ahah true
Hell yeah. Furries are a good bunch.
did not expect to see you here lmao
... So Rebecca... Since you're here, what's your fursona
Hi becca
@peter be quiet you
Yooo Rebecca! Didn't expect you here
I'VE HAD A HANDFUL OF CUSTOMERS LIKE THIS AND THEY LITERALLY MAKE MY WHOLE YEAR. It's crazy how sweet and generous furries are ;-;
Sometimes people forget that if someone can afford a fur suit, then if they ask for anything for money, weird or not, your gonna get a pretty nice payment
Some of us can’t even afford a fursuit. That’s why we do commissions in the first place! It makes us smile to know that our favorite artist was willing to make a drawing of our character that we hold so dearly.
My friend once described furries as "incredibly kind, but suspiciously wealthy" and it kinda stuck with me
money laundering, tax evasion, corruption, nepotism, exploitation, scams
So true! Those suits along can easily rack up into the thousands (assuming a high quality suit)!
It also has a lot to do with
“Furries will spend more than they should on furry shit.”
Trust me, we aren’t all rich, we just have terrible self control.
"I dont make fun of furries because If they can buy a 2000$ fur suit then they can buy a 10$ pipe bomb in my mail box"
And then there's us that are broke af. We either choose between cool art or necessities... guess what one wins more often.
Sorry, had to correct the title "The Curry commission" phone love to autocorrect furry into curry haha!
To the few who seen the curry title, congratz xD
It's fine! We understand :)
scrol
I love how, since you draw all your characters as anthros, the furry is depicted as one of our weird new hybrid species, to differentiate them.
The furry commissioners are the ones who are always the kindest and most willing to tip. Bless them
Furries are two extremes, extremely weird, and extremely kind and supportive.
Seriously, I've never met more kind folk on the internet or in real life.
Judging by your pfp I think we know which one you are.
@@-elliott-averagedragonenjo1812I’m sure he’s both (I’m both too lol)
Most are both!
I try to be both.
I'm a mix of both, but I'd say most of my weird things are actually unrelated
Aw, i really needed that "don't understimate yourself as an artist" i've been feeling pretty stressed lately about my drawings, this was incredibly nice to watch!❤️
Is you profile pic a drawing?
You got this! I believe in you, and so does the 231 other people and future peeps who like your comment! Everyone has their own style of art, but what makes an artist a true artist is if it brings them joy!
Always remember, you are a person worth more than many people think. Dont let bullies and spiteful people take your dignity, you are great and an enrichment in your own personal way. Keep on going and if you feel down sometimes, try to smile and think of your good times to cheer up. If that isnt enough, share your worries with friends, they may be able to help you out ;)
No cuz I was so anxious of opening commissions just in case I'll get rude clients or scammed because of all the horror stories I heard , But because I only sell furry art I havent had that issue as of now , they've all been kind, patient, and some were extremely generous I was taken at back at first :")
A lot of furries are really supportive of small creators, and their appreciation for art is unrivaled! I'm glad you had a nice time with my community!
Furries are literally some of the most sweetest and kindest people I’ve ever met, it sucks that they have such a bad reputation because of the like, 1% of very vocal weirdos…
way more furries are into animals than u think😬
@@idkmanwoah why is that literally the first thing you can think to say to a comment like this? you're proving my point man 💀
@@idkmanwoah way more furries are *not* into animals than you think😬
@@idkmanwoah guess what!
you’re wrong!
Yeah…
They really do have a bad reputation because of those weirdos, some even get harassed for nothing! And people record themselves harassing them (for no reason) and others think it’s “chadlike”. Wow.
Speaking of furries, a LOT of your animations were displayed on TV Screens at Anthrocon 2022!!! It was awesome seeing them!
That's because Keke was a guest of honor at AC 2022
:0
@@lion6335 oh wow
I need to go to one of these
@@dotthedot9080 there loads of fun
Furry community keeps us comission artists alive, they'll always have my respect for that 🙏
I was a furry artist for 4 years and I can confirm this is true. All of my clients have been so patient and nice! Even people who give suggestions to my art do so respectfully
It has a wholesome ending and tone that doesn't reach for low hanging fruit.
I should have expected such from Keke.
The respect and talent in the furry commissioning community is like, legendary. Not that things never go wrong and there are no bad actors, more that this is a thing I’ve heard about for years before I had any furry interactions
This is like a textbook furry commissions an artist interaction, and I love that
i have a friend who got a commission from a furry and then said furry tipped them, like, $80 when they were done. huge respect for how respectful and responsible furries are
I’m on the more D&D anthro end of the furry spectrum but ngl I’m pretty stoked to know how to do the art a little already
Commissions babey
I love furies and you can't change my mind
I wont ;3
@@dusselbold8465nor shall I. They're amazing!
How dare you make me smile at such wholesome interactions!
Wondeful story, I made many commissions for many furries and they were all very kind!! your animation put a smile on my face!! Thank you Keke :D
Holy shit these bots are getting out of hand like damn
"Just don't take years to finish it."
My god this is so accurate. I felt this in my soul. Everyone who's commissioned art in the furry community has had this happen at least once, I swear.
hey, What is your næme?
I have to admit this happened to me before(as the artist) but i had serious mental problems that set me back in my progress. It literally handicapped me and i needed to relearn to draw basically.
But i did finish the comission and it ended up looking better then the one the comissioner asked for
@@cosmicreef5858 hey, what is your name?
@@Catalunya_Countryball why are tou asking people their name 💀
@@ivythealiencat "democraticy of North Korea 2016"
See, most people think that the fandom is like... bad, or just mediocre at best, but I feel like this shines the light on the side that needs it the most.
The internet has a way of finding the negative and using that as the stereotype, I suppose..
As a greymuzzle, I'd recommend not interacting with people digitally as a first or only resort. I know it can be awkward and worrisome to meet with people face to face. COVID hasn't helped this, but I've always found that the most meaningful interactions with Furries are offline ones, at furmeets, conventions, just in everyday life. I wear a tail all the time, so sometimes randomly people just start talking to me, sometimes they're Furries.
You see, the negative part you say isnt just a small minority, its most of the community. Yes there is good people but its half and half, half are weirdos, half are quite nice,
@@talastra Yes, the only "normal" furrys are the ones irl. Ive observed alot of them online are quite weird and gross.
@@pwrsocket You aren't describing Furries; you're describing your confirmation bias.
@@pwrsocket Since you're not being nice, that puts you in the weirdo category. Also, you don't have actual numbers, so why offer them? Furries are less representative of gross and weird people in general and online.
I honestly thought this said Curry Comission, and was actively wondering when cooking food would come into play here.
ordering something at a resturaunt is basically a food commision
@@name7692 private chefs are akin to that one comissioner that keeps coming back
The original title actually did say that.
i should accept commissions then maybe
This reminds me of my first commission I took on, the customer was so happy he gave me a 60% tip and to this day the thought puts a smile on my face. It's very true not to underestimate yourself as an artist. Great animation as always, Keke.
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Finally it's here *YES*
As a small time artist who doesn't typically draw furries, this is such an accurate portrayal of my personal experience working on a furry commission.
I only have two such experience working on furry comm and in both cases,
1. The client had a drive link full of reference for their OC
2. Offered to pay upfront (which I did decline saying how I'd rather have them pay once they're satisfied with my WIP)
3. Was super patient with me and gave me a lot of time
4. Was super grateful after receiving the artwork and told me to not doubt my skills.
5. Paid me double my asking price saying how it was a tip for doing such a good job.
They really made my whole week!
And I thought I was just lucky but after seeing this video, seems like this is an actual thing. God bless them!
This was so adorable and everyone should be this nice to their artists
A furry saved my life once, so I had a fairly positive view on them from the outset.
Some friends of mine said some odd things about them as a community later in life when I brought up the subject, so I decided to do my own research. From what I found, the furry community was, and remains, largely a kind, caring, educational, and open community. They are also exceedingly generous to charities and artists. They have a few outliers and bad eggs, but no more so than any other group. In fact, between their charitable donations to hospitals and commissioning starving artists, they can really only be seen as a net positive in my eyes.
If you're willing to share, how exactly did they save your life?
@@MikeyFazboi I was fixing houses as part of a middle school charity program one summer in the mountains of West Virginia. One day on my way to the house we were fixing, I got ahead of my group and spotted a man on his porch under a giant confederate flag. It was at least 10 feet tall, covering the entire second floor on the face of the house. I was a young, sheltered black northerner so I didn’t know what that flag meant. My teacher at the time had told me to ask the next person I saw with a confederate flag what it meant to them today when I asked him after we covered the confederacy in History. The flag-covered porch was overflowing with sleepy dogs, which in my naive mind meant he was a good enough person to keep dogs happy, and therefore safe. The people in town had also been very kind to me so far. I decided to ask him what his flag meant to him.
He asked me to come over and talk to him about it, so I did. Then he leveled a shotgun at me that he’s been hiding behind the porch’s supporting column. He started ranting loudly about something. I could tell he was passionate, and offended, but I couldn’t hear him, all of my focus was down the barrel of that gun. He got louder, angrier, and stood up from his rocking chair, and took more careful aim at me. Maybe I didn’t answer a question he asked me? Still not sure.
That’s when my white, furry friend saved me. She ran up and stood between me and the gunman, apologized for both of us, and backed me off of the guy’s property. She stayed between me and him until we rounded the corner at the end of the street.
If she hadn’t been there right then, and been brave enough to risk her own life for my stupid mistake, I would be dead. Based on what I’m told he was yelling before my friend arrived, she 100% saved my life.
@@kyr58 Interesting read. If only that reached local news. Then there would be less of a negative impression of the community. I'm curious, though. Are you still friends with her?
@@kyr58 ah yes, america, dont know how they still believe having guns is a good idea after things like this
@@Victinitotodilepro Hey, remember that mall shooting in Greenwood, Indiana? Wanna guess what the hero had that saved dozens of lives? A gun! Crazy how that works huh? It's almost like people are the problem! Like some weird nutter who illegally points shotguns at people who probably should've been arrested and doesn't at all reflect how right-leaning people are.
Not all furries are like what you hear about them guys, most of them are just people that chill, love art and have a great time with others. There is small groups of furries that ruin it for every single other fur. So give the normal people in the fandom a chance everybody
Fax scary hoovy
@@imathing898 anytime bro
Yup, the small groups are always the groups that speak the loudest and give the rest of the community a bad wrap
FACTS
No
Everyone wonders why furries are suspiciously wealthy, but I think I know why and the answer is right here really.
When you find someone who is new to furries and you treat them like this, they are likely to keep coming to furries for support, and when they find continuous support in the community they are more likely to give what they get as learning the culture of the fandom. Really being a furry isnt just being part of a community but being part of a semi-independent economic system of people who actually value each others work fairly and often, which drives furries to keep doing what they love while keeping people away who think its weird and wouldnt benefit from or benefit the drive of it all. Perhaps we can go deeper and say this was the plan of Disney and other companies to fund people with this mindset to make more money themself, but that could be a bit of a conspiracy and this is just a UA-cam comment, but I just freaking love furries and they always find a way to amaze me by basically running the internet!
dude that's awesome!! I honestly didn't know much about the community except the negative stuff you can find everywhere, but this plus a few other positive videos have shown me a whole other side! this was such a cute and uplifting story, posted on my birthday too!
Ash Coyote on YT did an amazing documentary explaining it in great detail and it's honestly the best (free) documentary I've seen!
Some of the biggest clients for freelance artists are furries
Thank god for them
Furries singlehandedly carry the art (and IT) industry afloat. God bless them.
@@popojelly1895 yeah no
I don't think ive had a single bad interaction with a furry when i was doing commissions! i dont care what people say they are lovely
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Finally it's here *YES*
Indeed, we are very lovely haha.
Agreed. We can be weird but 1. Wich fandom isn't and 2. That's what makes futures great to my mind. Always kind and supportive ^^
I'm a furry artist and had mostly bad interactions with people begging for free art and trying to scam me. 😔 But every now and then there'll be one or two really awesome people who tip generously. One even asked to pick up a commission that someone else abandoned and payed the full amount. That was nice. ✨️
...says the furry.
Oh, my god, this was so heartwarming and wholesome... This is exactly the kind of context that my troubled soul was longing for. Such a genuine and personal touch to it. ♡
As a furry and furry artist myself, all i can say it's totally true! Somehow most of the commissioners are wholesome beans, that is super nice to work with.
Reading these top comments, it's so nice seeing the furry community actually having so many people with a positive attitude to it. It's made my day seeing, even if there are a lot of others who think it's weird or whatever, that so many people are so chill about it still ❤️
When people actually meet Furries in person, rather than dealing only through the lens of online trolldom, Furries find out people don't hate them as much as they tend to imagine.
Any time I see a drawing of a giant Falco, it warms my heart to know it was commissioned by a certain someone who went out of their way to find a little-known artist in need and pay them generously.
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Finally it's here *YES*
@@recitationtohear That ain't Falco >:(
@@petergriscom3431 I'm pretty sure that's a bot.
@@TreyDobe I know, I'm just teasing it.
Ah yes, Togepi1125 and their... kind of unhealthy but really fascinating focus on only Macro Falco art.
Furries dont feel artists for granted, our whole fandom is build upon art
Btw the phrase is "don't Take for granted" 😁
yeah, most of that art is r34
@@pwrsocket have you counted every single piece of art in existence pertaining to anthropomorphic animals and sorted it all onto r34 and non r34 to be able to provide such a bold statement?
@@aquaponieee if he did, that'd be one dedicated furry
@@pwrsocket you must be a furry to have the knowledge behind that
Furries are low-key some of the most accepting people ever.
Gender? Age? Race? Orientation?
They could *not* care less.
Most of them are so sweet, too! Not in the 'spam uwu' sense, but legit are some of the most selfless people I have met.
I don't know who the general pop has been interacting with, but furries are gold a dozen.
probably the ones furries didn't have time to set the scenario perfectly and had to see it natural. plus i seen furries discriminate on all those things its not even rare to see it. hating younger furries who having seen what they do to be compliant, hatred of straight people and you know what race.
@@zeosummers3984 Well there's a difference, teens going through a phase and letting loose since they don't actually understand the world- and people who think stylized animals and animal-like things are neat.
What you're describing sounds like a generic twitter user.
@@zeosummers3984 that happens but it doesn't define the whole. most furries are respectful and don't do those things you mentioned. (but I have seen what you mentioned happen so I don't disagree) I just disagree with the idea that all are like that
One of my artist friends loves when a furry comes along to commission because they usually have many references or are able to communicate well what they want (if it's like a new character ref sheet), tip well and show off their new art a lot with the artist attached.
Yep, and honestly I didn't even think that not everyone's like that when commissioning until reading this
Finally, positive rep! I've talked to enough kids to know just how crazy the rumours about being a furry is. No, not all furries wear fursuits. No, not all of us want to act like animals. No, being a furry doesn't mean we want to screw animals. I don't even interact with the fandom other than watching blackie sootfur and being in a friend's tiny server. It honestly feels like more of an artstyle than a community at times.
Ehe blackie sootfur videos are great ✨
Then what is a furry? Is it just having a furry oc or something?
@@k-marketmuotiala4801 it's juste enjoying anthro characters like Po or Tigress, Nick Wilde and more :)
having a fursona isn't mandatory tho the majority of us have one!
@@sweetzeyraa Not a furry myself, but gonna have to disagree. You very much can like Po or Tigress without being a furry, in my opinion. Or do you mean like be hella into every anthro character just because they're anthro? Cuz many movies and other media often have characters that are human-like, but not literally human (Cars from the Cars Movies etc.), so I think pretty much everyone would be a furry or a carry or something similar by that definition.
I really appreciate the answer, tho.
@@k-marketmuotiala4801 it's a bit hard to describe but it's just an interest. It's no different than any other fandom in those terms. It's a community of people who share an interest in animals with human aspects and proportions. In fact, the whole community was founded from a small group of people who enjoyed drawing anthro animals in the late 40s (they were known as the Funny Animals Fandom before it was transformed into the Furry Fandom)
i think a good reason as to why furries really take good care of commisions is because being an artist is genuine hard work, and getting drawings of your characters is even harder. i myself have been living off of free samples and sketches for a good couple years, but i'll definitely get into the commission game one day.
*This... does put a smile on my face.*
I try my hardest to be an excellent client, especially when I'm working with an artist in a difficult financial situation.
Never take advantage of low starting prices; if you feel on instinct what you're paying doesn't appropriately value the quality of the work you've received, offer more. You will most certainly feel very personally fulfilled even if your wallet is a bit lighter.
Do not do too frequent check-ins! It obviously depends on estimates, but it's usually acceptable to check in about weekly, but make sure you checked with the artist beforehand whether they're starting immediately or if they're working on backlogged commissions and if yours will be started a bit later! Also, if you're going to check in, make sure the artist is healthy physically and mentally. You always need to be willing to give grace when it comes to the artist's well-being, both because it would be unethical to do otherwise, and because it can impact the quality of the final result!
If the work isn't what you hoped, do not be *harsh* with your criticism, be *precise*. It can hurt to pay well for something you don't like very much, and you may think it'll hurt to have their work criticized, but this probably isn't their first rodeo. Just make sure you're using constructive terminology and avoiding negative connotations!
It's okay to ask for corrections, but there is a balance! Consider how long things can take to re-draw. Try drafting the concept got the piece beforehand, or using references; either way, make sure you are firm about the concept, because asking for something at dramatic as a change in pose or setting after the scene is already being illustrated would be a bit rediculous! Even if it looks silly because you can't draw, it's okay! The artist will most likely always appreciate some direction with a rough draft, especially because it can be assurance that they won't have to make too many changes down the line!
(this is all I can really think of right now, but feel free to reply some other good suggestions! remember to be good clients owo)
honestly, thank you for this guide :)
It may seem like common sense, and even tho I think of myself as someone nice, it is still good to have a reminder of proper manner with stranger doing their best 😁
Thank you for this! Just commenting so that more people might see this :)
omg this is a nice guide! You seem like such a nice and wholesome person, caring for artist you'll be commissioning
and always pay at least 50% of the price before they get started!
I once payed $400 for an artwork I hated. It took so long and there were pretty much no communitcion or updates and it came out so ugly I can't stand looking at it. Still, I didn't complain. I just paid him his money and left.
why? because I'm not an asshole.
It’s so refreshing to see a furry-positive piece of media. It’s so easy to just call the fandom weird and disregard it entirely because it’s so seemingly different from everything else.
they might be very wacky but that does not have to be, and never had to be, a bad thing. Just let them have some peace.
Hot take: Cringe culture has done way more damage than cancel culture ever will
@@rainbowresorts CORRECT.
@@rainbowresorts for me they kinda blend in. The line of separation (if there is one) couldn't be blurrier
We’re a quirky lot, but I think that’s part of the appeal. When I dipped my toes in, I fell in love with the community SO quickly.
This is so wholesome. Supportive and sweet: its nice to see a video that sticks up for the fandom! The world needs more of this :)
i think theres something to be said about the capacity to anthropomorphize things (in this case, animals) leading to the development of a particularly strong sense of empathy. being that anthropomorphization is extending human characteristics onto non-human things.
and then it goes without saying that people with a lot of empathy generally are kind to others.
The furry fandom is usually seen as weird and gross, but on the inside is a bunch of kind hearted people who care about each other. Thank you Keke for showing the world how caring our community really can be!
I got some fucked up art myself. But still. I don't harm a single one. :P
Everyone does stupid shit in life. Just don't harm anyone else by it and you're fine.
Also, what's so bad about me getting commissions for fucked up art someone else 'enjoys'. ;)
@@RedmilesShark yeah, alot of furrys are really gross and do indescribably bad things, but they still have some good ones!
Yeah, I don’t trust anyone who associates with the furry “fandom.” Weirdos, the lot of them.
Was feeling pretty sad about staying up so late, but being able to see this a mere 15 seconds after it dropped certainly cheered me up. Thank you.
i seriously pulled an all nighter and i’m extremely exhausted and this video made me very happy
As an artist I feel the same exact way! Their community is so awesome for artists!
Say what you want about furries, but you cannot deny that they're passionate as hell and extremely polite.
feels more like obsessed and insane. maybe I'll meet a polite furry someday.
@@zeosummers3984 Dude liking something a lot does not mean they're "obsessed and insane".
@@TheAdvertisement Insane people want to turn into a dragon, normal people dont.
@@zeosummers3984 Yep, you got that right
@@pwrsocket bro thats not what a furry is. 💀
It's not my "fursona" or anything like that, but I'm writing a book about just an incredibly adorable centipede and I commission quite a lot of art about her. Not a lot of artists have experience drawing bugs like that! So whenever I find one, I pay more than they ask for and give a tip.
Artists are awesome.
can you send us some of the centipede art?
@@drakesword5214 +1
+2, would defo wanna see
Sure! I'd post a link but that isn't working for some reason. It's called Shedling on RoyalRoad, if you want to look it up - there may not be much, but it's free to read.
@@Faceplates330 love the centipede
It gets to a point where if you’re weird enough, you accept everyone else because you know what it feels like
O my goodness I never thought of it like that (not saying I'm a furry hater no I support them but) this man is a genius
Wait are you a he or a she or LGBTQ
@@modragon1936 you can just say "they" or "person" if you dont know their gender :)
Right
That's the one
We furries are always either extremely broke or have a suspiciously large amount of money.
I just have a large weath of emotions rather than... physical weath. I'm poor as fuck.
Antifurry: "FURRY ARE MEANIE ZOZOSPDJEOXNSODJISPHILE"
Actual furry:
As a person who just recently signed up for some furry communities I confirm that they are so so soooo nice! Sure there are some weirdos but every community has that small group of assholes that gives them a bad rep. Furries though are majorly very polite and respectful and I love their community already. I feel so sad I'm not very much into anthro so I don't exactly belong there!
You can be a furry even if your not that into antro stuff! There's no qualifications, its more of a label to help yourself feel in the right place and right community! It's ok if you don't though, I can understand why you wouldn't tbh.
The doors of the furry community are open to all, my friend.
@@scantyoutube5649 I'm more talking about my own internal feeling of not belonging. :) The community itself is very welcoming indeed!
Same goes for the gacha community. I felt bad for them
Technically, since anthro is like an animal with human features, just talking animals count too.
I always had a negative perception of furries, but then one of my roommates I moved in with was one and I realized that nah, they are actually super chill people. Also, Fighting games are really popular in that community, so I had a friend to play Guilty Gear and SSBM with :)
I was waiting for it to suddenly go south, but it was wholesome all the way through
now keke has discovered not only that furries are usually really nice people, many of them are suspiciously wealthy
IT jobs pay well I guess
Pretty sure furries run at least a 1/8 of the government and a 1/3 of the entire internet
Aerospace engineering makes a lot of money
@@succubasu They are everywhere, my furry friend just joined the military for cyber security.
* looks at furry pfp *
* looks at
as a furry, i must say thank you for doing this. not only has it made me feel better as an artist with the "dont underestimate yourself" but it also paints the furry fandom as really nice peeps. and i can confirm that they make sure people get paid for their worth
but i must warn you there are some people out there who are trying to make profit off the fandom and being scammy. make sure to read seller/buyer bewares! they exist to help you out and avoid the bad eggs out there
The furry fandom is only nice when it comes to commisions because they pay big money for their fursona to be drawn with their fetishes
This is so wholesome! And yea the furry community seems to have always been awesome to artists! I've never heard a bad thing in that regard💖
That was adorable ^^ I never thought about commissioning non-furry artists to try and get my character drawn. But now you've inspired me!
At first I thought this was going to be a joke surrounding the stigmatized side of the furry community, but what came of it was much more light hearted and wholesome than I anticipated and it was an enjoyable 2:20s, and the design of the commissioner really sold the wholesome part of the video, they just look so sweet and welcoming. I needed this :)
Not gonna lie, I was expecting a meme about NSFW commissions or something, but this is way better! So wholesome!
I'm so happy you had such a great experience - and that others will too after seeing this!
Daww that's so sweet, I actually have trouble finding people who want to commission me as well, so I definitely can relate u_u'
I expected a nsfw joke, but ended with a wholesome experience.
Well, maybe in next episodes.
That’s furrys for ya! Never know what you’re gonna get bet it’ll be fun to find out!
Ah yes, the feared curry community.
autocorrect haha
@@kekeflipnote u should fix the meating too Im vegan
curry fommunity
@don't be surprised thanks, now I know what i'll have for dinner
Yeah they are crazy about their recipes