Does the Bible Condemn the Rosary and Repetitive Prayer?
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
- Prof. Curtis Mitch, co-author of The Ignatius Catholic Study Bible, gives a powerful and thoughtful reflection on the readings for mass on June 17, 2021.
2 Cor 11:1-11
Ps 111:1b-2, 3-4, 7-8
Mt 6:7-15
Learn more about Curtis Mitch and the St. Paul Center by visiting bit.ly/2JXEf18
Greetings from Brasil.Thank you ! God blesses you all!
Lord, give us the grace of authentic prayer - to live deeply in You and to praise You in all circumstances
Thank you for providing depth and breadth to this passage and the meaning of prayer!
Thank you for tackling the difficult issues and systematically dismantling the objections.Forgiving others is the crux of life.May God give us the will to do this, always.
Thank you Prof Mitch..esp for going directly to addressing how these verses are often used to criticise catholic prayer. That was ery helpful for me.
Excellent explanation. I just thoutht about the rosary when I red today’s gospel, and I got full of doubts. Thanks a lot for the help.
Thank you and God bless.
Greetings from Timor-Leste...God Bless all of us..
Excellent teaching!
Always excited to listen to your reflections here to supplement my Lectio Divina. Thank you very much. God bless
Thank you for sharing your wisdom. Been wondering about the Holy Rosary myself. You did a great gift explaining in simple words, confusing topic especially with our brothers and sisters in different faith, most importantly in defending the HOLY ROSARY. You are a blessing to listen to! Portland Oregon
Scripture study and a lesson in apologetics - Great video!
@@tony1685 Hi Tony, the Catholic Church by default knows, loves, and walks in the truth of Jesus as it is His body and was established by Him. Now, various individuals in the Church may not reflect that, so its important to differentiate the two.
@@tony1685 Hi Tony, The Church does not promote or endorse worship of idols, and under the New Covenant we worship the Lord on Sundays when we are made a new creation with the resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ.
You never addressed my previous point that the Church gave us the Bible, especially the New Testament that you so often cite. What do you think Christians did the 300+ years before the Bible was constituted in its current form? Hint: Catholic Church and Tradition. (Okay, that wasn't a hint but an answer.)
@po18guy Thanks. I look at it from the point of view that maybe someone else will read my responses and benefit from them.
Another avenue of needed explanation as I continue to understand Catholicism. Thank you
You are a very knowledgeable person , praise God through Mary
Thank you this was very helpful!
We are warned to not to engage in vain repetitive prayers. "vain" being the key word. Repetitive prayers are okay as long as they are not vain.
@@tony1685 Dude necromancy is summoning the dead to get information FROM them. It's like expecting an evil spirit to be a prophet. Asking a saint to pray for you is not devining future info from them.
There's nothing vain about asking for prayers. Revelation says that the angels and saints are constantly praying for us.
@@tony1685 necromancy means evoking the dead , you scripture alone bigot.
Repetitive prayers had been made by kind David, read Psalms.
Christ did three times asking to remove the burden on him at garden of Gethsemane.
@@tony1685Rev 12:1 "And now, in heaven, a great portent appeared; a woman that wore the sun for her mantle, with the moon under her feet, and a crown of twelve stars about her head. 2 She had a child in her womb, and was crying out as she travailed, in great pain of her delivery. 3 Then a second portent appeared in heaven; a great dragon was there, fiery-red, with seven heads and ten horns, and on each of the seven heads a royal diadem; 4 his tail dragged down a third part of the stars in heaven, and flung them to earth. And he stood fronting the woman who was in childbirth, ready to swallow up the child as soon as she bore it. 5 She bore a son, the son who is to herd the nations like sheep with a crook of iron; and this child of hers was caught up to God, right up to his throne"
@@tony1685 Rev 17:5 "There was a title written over her forehead, The mystic Babylon, great mother-city of all harlots, and all that is abominable on earth. 6 I saw this woman drunk with the blood of saints, the blood of those who bore witness to Jesus; and I was filled with great wonder at the sight. 7 But the angel said to me, Why dost thou find cause for wonder? I will disclose to thee the mystery of this woman, and of the beast she rides, with its seven heads and ten horns. 8 The beast thou sawest is that which lived once, and now is dead; soon it must rise from the abyss, and find its way to utter destruction."
She is the "mytic" Babylon. She is Isreal, drunk with the blood of the saints and martryrs. She had fornicated with the kings of the earth. She is at the time of this writing partnering with the beast -Rome, to kill the Christians.
There is a complete contrast here. The "woman clothed with the sun..." is the mother of the Christian church. The Harlot is the mother of biblical Judaism that has been unfaithful to God over and over and over since it's inception. And now has commited the unforgivable sin joining forces with the very people that God has always protected her from to betray Him, kill His son, and Kill His people.
@@tony1685 "Mary" (the church) did indeed flee into the wilderness:
The Jewish-Roman war that lasted 3.5 years killed over a million people. Do you know how many Christians were killed in Jerusalem in that carnage? According to historians Eusibius and Josephus, NOT A SINGLE ONE!!!!!!!!
How can that be? Remember the final “mystery” that God would not reveal to Daniel? Dan. 12:6-13. He said the “wise” would know, but “chosen souls” would be purged.
If he had revealed it to Daniel, the Jews would have known about it, and that final battle, and all that it accomplished would never have happened.
In the Olivet discourse, Matthew 24 & 25, Jesus gave His disciples 8 signs to watch for:
1. False messiahs. All Jews were aware of the Daniel prophesy and it’s timing. These false prophets split the Jews into factions.
2. Wars and rumors of wars: Generals were fighting for the throne of Rome, There were many Jewish rebellions. In 66 AD the Roman army attacked because the sacrifices to Nero in the temple ended, but they retreated.
3. Famines and earthquakes: Paul wrote about the famines, the various Jewish factions destroyed each others food stores
4. Earthquakes. Colossae was destroyed by an earthquake in the 50’s AD, Pompeii 63 AD.
5. Persecution. Mostly by Jews until Rome burned and Nero (666) blamed it on the Christians, then the Roman bureaucracy joined forces with the Jewish leadership. Peter and Paul were martyred until Nero.
6. Apostasy. Martyrdom scared many away, some betrayed others. You can see some of this in the letter to the Hebrews, and in John’s letters in Revelation.
7. “The gospel will be preached throughout the whole world, and then the end will come.” Matt. 24:14. It was preached throughout the whole known world, with more speed than in any other period in history. Col. 1:“5 the faith and love that spring from the hope stored up for you in heaven and about which you have already heard in the true message of the gospel 6 that has come to you. In the same way, the gospel is bearing fruit and growing throughout the whole world-just as it has been doing among you since the day you heard it and truly understood God’s grace.”
These were the signs leading up to the end of the temple and sacrifice forever, the end of the people of Israel, the end of the rule of the Sanhedrin and the punishment that Jesus promised for condemning Jesus to death, and the tribulation. But this last sign is not a warning. He told them that when they see this next one - drop what you’re doing and “flee to the mountains.” THIS is the mystery that He couldn’t tell Daniel.
8. Desolating sacrilege. Luke includes the detail that armies will surround Jerusalem. Jews had always escaped harm by retreating INTO the city walls. Fleeing was completely contrary to Jewish intuition. Jews hunkered down with their food stores. Christians, “the wise” heeded Jesus words and escaped, all of them! If the Christians hadn’t followed Jesus’s instructions, the new church would have been doomed. But as He told Peter, “The gates of hell will not prevail against it”. This was the end of Daniel’s 70 week. The Kingdom of God has been growing for 2000 years.
Matthew 24: 34 “Believe me, this generation will not have passed, before all this is accomplished.”
Prayer by flesh is powerless, prayer by Spirit is powerful. Thank you.
God bless the Catholic Church
Yes please keep doing these reflections . Excellent and not to long.👍
Thank you so much
Thank you so much.🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️❤️
Reading the Bible more than once, which is a prayerful activity, is repetitive and is ok, lest we only say the Our Father once in our life!
Thank you very much.
Thank you🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️❤️
Thank you 😊💓
I learned a lot 0n praying.never enough.
Grstegul.
Amen. Amen. Amen!
Thank you Lord for this wonderful channel, may You bless all your servant, and all Catholic channels like this Grow the more❤️🙏🏼
Giving some of the history aids in a greater understanding of the gospel. I do appreciate the insight.
Like being self serving, not honoring God but self.
AMEN✝️❤️🙏
The Lord's Prayer, as I was taught because I grew up protestant, was a guide that Our Lord gave us to follow. However, I also believe he gave that as an example because if we become easily distracted or genuinely can't think of what to talk with God about then the Lord's Prayer as it is works as is.
Now when praying the Rosary may seem repetitive but what the Rosary is meant to do, as I am to understand it, is meant to be a focus for the Mysteries of Christ's life. The prayers of the Rosary are supplicant guides as we meditate on who Christ is and how he lived and what he did for us as well as how he would like for us to live in him.
That's my take away from Our Lord's teaching on prayer.
It might be good to point out that it is only in the last 200 years the majority of the population has had access to education, reading, and much leisure time. In the time of Jesus it was rare to find someone who could read and/or write. People were thus unaccustomed to praying silently. We take it for granted now; but the skill to pray silently is really a learned skill that arose with learning to read. Centuries ago a person who could read silently was often thought to be possessed or a witch. Thus those praying on street corners or in the synagogue would often pray out loud as we would probably only pray silently today.
Thank you for these clarifications. This was very helpful since my Protestant friend tells me I should not ask Mary for her prayers. Mary is not a co-redemption with Christ. Maybe you can do a video about Mother Mary as co-redemptor. And where in the Bible it says it.
Don't allow your Protestants friends deceive..continue to pray the rosary and pray to Mary, the mother of God and coredemptoris. They hate Mary and don't allow them make you lose your faith..stand firm
Yes she is.
The devil fears Mary more than all angels and men. This is because Satan being proud, suffers infinitely from the obedience and humility of our Blessed Mother. Her humility humiliates him more than the divine power and secondly because God has given Mary such great power against the devils. We are so blessed to receive the gift of so perfect a Mother from the hands of Jesus Himself. Mary never fails her children. We ought to pray to her, she will teach us to love Jesus tenderly and will draw us closer to Her Son.
@@matthewjoseph9897 True. I have heard this as well.
@@tony1685 she was assumed body and soul into heaven, she is queen of heaven, may God forgive your blasphemous ignorance.
Catholicism is beautiful
Many can't forgive sin or answer prayers. She needed saving that's why sacrificed 2 doves.
This was interesting I've been struggling a lot with the rosary and the noveana I thought they were a lot like Jewish prayer but how could the Catholic prayer be condemned but Jewish prayer that is similarly repetitive be good
Yes, it does condemn vain repetition of prayers. Yes, it condemns the rosary because it is idolatry.
Matthew 6:9-13 (NKJV): In this manner, therefore, pray:
Our Father in heaven,
Hallowed be Your name.
10 Your kingdom come.
Your will be done
On earth as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts,
As we forgive our debtors.
13 And do not lead us into temptation,
But deliver us from the evil one.
For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.
If Jesus says we should pray to the Father, then why do we need to address our prayers to Mary? To Dead Saints?
Praying to Mary using her Rosary is designed to take out our focus to God, to the Lord Jesus Christ and of the Holy Spirit and His Word the Bible…
Yes but Jesus was perfect does that mean we are supposed to do what Jesus did? When the Bible says do not pray repetitiously.
I love Mary with all my heart, but praying the rosary is like chinese torture for me. It's like a needle stuck on a record and i get horrific anxiety. It may be my personality, but I just can't do it. So I just do one hail mary per decade. Maybe it will come. Thanks for your teaching.
I love praying the lord's prayer, the psalms and just connecting with Abba through free prayer.. the rosary doesnt do anything to me !! I dont feel spiritual or full or exalted..so I don't
Keep persevering with the Rosary - Our Blessed mother will show you her love I promise 🙏🏻
Praying for you Sofia 🙏🏻😊
@@tony1685 Praying for you too 🙏🏻
The works of Jesus and Mary can also be called wonderful flowers; but their perfume and beauty can only be appreciated by those who study them carefully-and who open them and drink in their scent by diligent and sincere meditation.
Louis-Marie Grignion de Montfort, The Saint Louis de Montfort Collection [7 Books
So the Roman Catholic church and the Bible per Kings James version Oh King James came out because King James got mad at the Catholic Church about his divorce and the honoring his divorce so he wrote the King James version Catholic Bible for everyone to hear and they got mad because you have to be a priest to read the Bible because you cannot understand the Bible as a normal person cuz you are honored by God. So why do you have a Roman Catholic priest Pope there's nothing supposed to be worshiped or treasured close unto God so how how are you not unrighteous?
Jesus’ Suffering & Death Paid for the Sins of Mankind…
...For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. (1 Timothy 2:5-6)
In whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; (Ephesians 1:7)
Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: (Colossians 1:15-16)
And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself.
(Colossians 1:20)
...But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ Died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of His Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be
saved by his life. (Romans 5:8-10)
…the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. (Acts 20:28)
But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us…
Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances;
for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; And that he might reconcile both
unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: And came and preached peace
to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. (Ephesians 2:13)
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood,
to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
(Romans 3:24-25)
And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us,
which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;…
And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
(Colossians 2:13-15)
I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
(Galatians 2:21)
THE GOSPEL SIMPLY REQUIRES YOU TO PLACE ALL OF YOUR FAITH IN
THE DEATH, BURIAL & RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST
AND THE BLOOD HE SHED ON THE CROSS FOR YOUR SALVATION
Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the GOSPEL which I preached unto you,
which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; by which also ye are SAVED,
if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that…
CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SINS
according to the scriptures; and that he was
BURIED, and that he ROSE AGAIN
the third day according to the scriptures:
(1 Corinthians 15:1-4)
Do you not know about the two houses of Israel? There are two houses of Israel and one house -- ten whole tribes -- had become pagan and thus were scattered among the nations (the Latin for the Greek word for nation, "ethnos" is "gentile"). It is precisely these pagan lost sheep of Israel Jesus came to save and He commissioned all of His apostles -- including Paul, the apostle to/among the nations -- to go out and restore Israel -- all according to prophecy, which He came to fulfill. The "gentiles" are not non-Israelites. In fact, when the English Bible uses that word, it is 9 times out of ten referring to the House of Israel, who were Greeks and Romans. This is why the three languages on the cross that said "King of the Jews" were in Hebrew, Greek, and Latin. There were other languages, including Aramaic, which Jesus even spoke occasionally. But these three languages, Hebrew, Greek, and Latin, were the languages of the Israelites and included both houses of Israel.