Thank you for confirming my suspicion that the HiBy cover and box are not genuine leather! Now, as a VEGAN, I can buy with confidence that there is no animal abuse involved.
Would you recommend over regular phone amp? I have iPhone with IEMs I’m not sure if these would help or improve with apples hi res lossless. I’m having a hard time researching what will work with apple and be better than the apple dongle.
@@calebwhite6173You can use Fiio ka1 (lightning version).Very inexpensive way to upgrade your phones audio.Suitable for any IEMs, but struggles with full sized headphones
You should really try the Cayin RU7, its the only portable 1-bit DAC on the market! It strikes a great balance between R2R smoothness and great detail retrieval found in traditional delta-sigma DACs. It is also one of the most powerful dongles, providing up to 400mW of power!
@@Hugo_Furst-x Sorry the FC6 is pretty bad with rolled off treble. If you want a R2R dongle you should get the RU6 however the RU7 will give you similar R2R smoothness but without sacrificing the details.
@@JtwasLuck That’s saying alot. So, do you still get the natural timbre with the RU7, like the RU6? but with more detail? Would you say that’s accurate? Thanks again.
The question between the 2 is you want a lot of noise ,roll of at both ends ,with perfect midrange and no power ( hiby fc6 ) or you want natural, dead silent, linear with extension , power and soundstage ( questyle ) ? You decide.
Oh shit! I have the m15 (which I absolutely love!) and yesterday/today was literally contemplating getting an R2R dongle dac to try R2R for the first time and hopefully have something different. Was thinking of either this Hiby or the Cayin Ru7. Definitely bookmarked this video for later viewing and seeing how this compares to the m15
"don't trust numbers". Well, when it comes to output power, you better should. What you didn't notice is that hiby states for 32 ohm load, while the M15 is stated for 300. Then recalculated roughly it makes 211mW balanced that is twice as much as hiby's SE. M15 SE is about even with hiby's. Interesting, how fast that thing will drain the phone battery
Good review! I bought the M15 to use with my Focal Celestee headphones on my cell phone. The sound is excellent except that when I take the bus the sound cuts out for no reason. It might take 30 minutes of listening, or sometimes it's less. I have to unplug the USB wire and plug it back in but it starts again after 5, 10 minutes. I do not understand why. My music source is Qobuz and I don't change anything when it happens. When I'm at home in my living room, it doesn't happen. My connections are still fixed. It's very weird... Do you have any idea what it could be?
Adding my vote to the Cayin RU6 and RU7 reviews... For the benefit of others because i have both... Both sound great but i was also shocked at how different they sound from one another. Based on early impressions im finding it hard to comprehend how good the sound separation is on the RU7... And the RU6 sounds soooo gooey (the good kind) by comparison
Yes, these are the top competition for portable dacs it seems. I’m trying to decide between them. That natural, analog sound suits my taste. It would be great to see that comparison.
@@shashank6393 There was something special about the sound of the RU7 to my ears. I'm listening through the RU7 right now and everything just feels more enjoyable, but I haven't done a detailed enough comparison with the RU6 yet to judge how different they are. From memory it just seems more resolving than the RU6, more crisp around the edges of tones but still warm. The RU6 (from memory) is more warm and less defined even though it's still an enjoyable sound. I am also enjoying the sound of the RU7 more than my Questyle M15 and my MOJO 2 at the moment, but some of that may also be because it's new so I'm not being objective.
@@reflection1119 What about now, 1 month later, mate? Do you still enjoy RU7 more than the others? Does the RU7 at DSD256 is crispy around notes like the M15?
@@ramaidaugirdas definitely still enjoy it more than the M15, if anything, just because it works better. The M15 is buggy when used with my laptop. But I do prefer the sound of the RU7 to the M15 too but I've not switched between the different DSD modes. Just kept it on the lowest so far. I'd say I enjoy the RU7 as much as the Mojo 2 but the mojo 2 is the better product on all accounts (except portability)... Rightly so given the price difference
I have a Hiby R7 DAP paired with a Mojo2=have had this for over a year. Also have the Questyle (we pronounce it Qstyle here in Oz) and the Hiby FC6 and carry that around in my backpack together with Senns IE900s. Great-both of them!
Loving the new format, dropping 3+ lets me consume at once. As you said the Netflix model, I want to consume in one hit. Works well, can see other UA-camrs follow. So much you could do with this formate. Add more experiments or discoveries gives a great platform to keep the story being to,d. Liking your work 👍 would like to see more android DAPs, and dongles
The ifi go bar is pretty good as well. The thing you need to try and review is the Astell&Kern ACRO L1000 headphone Amplifier. That thing has a giant ridiculously good feeling nob
its the song from that very own movie, that thing you do, pretty good one watched it on tv really i usually only look at the casts first whether they qualified enough, to download
Probably the best high-power dongle at 265mW@32ohms, unless the Tempotec Sonata BHD Pro has similarly clean power at its advertised 280. Most smaller Chinese manufacturers are advertising higher power output using the Chinese law that lets them promise those power levels even if it means pushing THD+N up to a ridiculous 10% (yes, you read that right, there's no decimal point in that).
Finally got a chance to listen to the Cabasse Rialtos at T.H.E. Show this past weekend. Holy crap are they mind blowing, not just incredible for the price but incredible for the entire show. That $4000 speaker just completely blew 90% of the $200,000+ systems out of the water. Literally the only thing that is stopping me from buying a pair is that I still need to listen to the KEF LS60s before I make my final judgement, that being said I might end up just getting both of them. I cannot stop raving about the Rialtos to everyone that I talk to.
Retired into a large 5th wheel RV and think those Rialto would be perfect and possibly overkill bass wise with my current SVS SB3000 powered subwoofers x2 plus 2 BassShakers in my seating..lol. The dsp they are using seems very interesting with the app control etc., and I believe they do room eq which would be helpful with the RV. I keep watching UA-cam videos and then you mentioned them too...hmm maybe it's fate 😅
I'm surprised you didn't mention the Cayin RU6 because that's an R2R dongle that's been out longer than the hiby. So long that Cayin just released the RU7 Edit: do you really have Gregorian chants? You really do listen to a wide range of music which is very helpful because I'm the same way.
This^. Comparison for these niche designs should be based on technology, like HiBy FC6 and Cayin RU6 R2R (NOS-sy/veiled) devices should be compared to eachother, while weird and wonderful current-source devices like Questyle M15 and Apogee Groove should be in another comparison just with eachother.
Anyone know where I can buy an original black leather case for the M15 (and ship to/within the USA)? Can't seem to buy one on the Questyle website anymore and the only places I've found them elsewhere don't ship to the USA.
This is the biggest problem they have imo. It's even worse if you are limping along with an aging battery. It's rare for dongles to have built in batteries but I know there are some like shanling's ua5 which is around the $250 range
@@spamcan9208 My phone is showing signs of aging and i just decided to go for the Qudelix 5k. I don’t really want to run anything powerhungry of my phone id rather have Bluetooth, actual battery life and EQ. I had like 1 hour 30 to go from 100%-20%. I sold it to a friend of mine for desktop use after a week i was really disappointed with the insane powerdraw
@@KopfdesRiesen My ES100 has served me well and it's more convenient. If it fails I'd strongly consider the 5K. To be honest with LDAC available you don't need a direct connection anymore if you're out and about doing other things and not focusing on the music.
not having physical volume control is a deal breaker for me. I like to send pure signal to the dac, if i am gonna send a signal that's already dialed by android, the signal isn't clean to start with.
@@natevirtual built quality not good (gacha), my friend bought this new and there's and OLED error, also some report with failure physical button, better you buy this offline or from reputable seller with good return policy
Question still remains, 'that weather these dongle replace expensive DAPs, while considering ONLY&ONLY sound quality using iems?? Zee, could you detect (in blind test) the source if say, M15 against RS6, DX300 etc?
I own the m15 and i love it! And if you use them for example with laptops,tablets,pc on your desk i highly recomnending for them a fiio kb1 multifunction keyboard,cause those fucking usefull and well built(specially the metal one) and convenient!!!!!!!
When bad things start to happen to you Z , do not look any further than that desk mat you got you just invited bad things to your home ,we will stop watching until you get rid of it GOD BLESS YOU
Told u!!!.. Now we'r talkin gd stuff. Why i told then u just to.. U should advance then me.. Not me ask then u do.. Let me take ur job then.. peace! Butter fc6 is chips r2r.. Not ordinary butter...
Questyle M15 ----- audio46.com/products/questyle-m15-portable-dac-amp/?ref=zreviews
HiBy FC6 ------------- hifigo.com/products/hiby-fc6/?rfsn=3737349.d530b5
Thank you for confirming my suspicion that the HiBy cover and box are not genuine leather!
Now, as a VEGAN, I can buy with confidence that there is no animal abuse involved.
I’ve had the M15 for over a month, it really is good. Sits in my travel kit with two sets of IEMs.
Would you recommend over regular phone amp? I have iPhone with IEMs I’m not sure if these would help or improve with apples hi res lossless. I’m having a hard time researching what will work with apple and be better than the apple dongle.
@@calebwhite6173You can use Fiio ka1 (lightning version).Very inexpensive way to upgrade your phones audio.Suitable for any IEMs, but struggles with full sized headphones
@@calebwhite6173 I'll speak up as a m15 user, absolutely use a m15 over a built in headphone amp, the m15 can drive abyss' and audezes
@@Omar_ZXhow? I have the m15i is not that powerful honestly it can’t drive planar iems with full authority
You should really try the Cayin RU7, its the only portable 1-bit DAC on the market! It strikes a great balance between R2R smoothness and great detail retrieval found in traditional delta-sigma DACs. It is also one of the most powerful dongles, providing up to 400mW of power!
How does the Cayin RU7 compare to the new Hiby FC6, R2R dongle/ dac/ amp?
@@Hugo_Furst-x Sorry the FC6 is pretty bad with rolled off treble. If you want a R2R dongle you should get the RU6 however the RU7 will give you similar R2R smoothness but without sacrificing the details.
@@JtwasLuck excellent information. thanks, so much.
@@Hugo_Furst-x no problem, I honestly can’t recommend the RU7 enough. I am actually selling all my delta sigma DACs because of it.
@@JtwasLuck That’s saying alot. So, do you still get the natural timbre with the RU7, like the RU6? but with more detail? Would you say that’s accurate? Thanks again.
Questyle's M15 is a legend.
The question between the 2 is you want a lot of noise ,roll of at both ends ,with perfect midrange and no power ( hiby fc6 ) or you want natural, dead silent, linear with extension , power and soundstage ( questyle ) ? You decide.
In terms of pure sound quality, would you get the FC6 or save a bit more for the Hiby R6 III DAP?
The m15 has lineout? In the questyle page they show rca and xlr cables for them but nobody confirms about their line out capabilities.
I find this man very difficult to follow: how he changes the subject several times through every one of his videos.
I find it quite easy to follow but that may be cause I also tend to do that as well. In fact, I had not notice it until you pointed it out.
@@lucaspdersoliisame 😅
Oh shit! I have the m15 (which I absolutely love!) and yesterday/today was literally contemplating getting an R2R dongle dac to try R2R for the first time and hopefully have something different. Was thinking of either this Hiby or the Cayin Ru7. Definitely bookmarked this video for later viewing and seeing how this compares to the m15
"don't trust numbers". Well, when it comes to output power, you better should. What you didn't notice is that hiby states for 32 ohm load, while the M15 is stated for 300. Then recalculated roughly it makes 211mW balanced that is twice as much as hiby's SE. M15 SE is about even with hiby's.
Interesting, how fast that thing will drain the phone battery
It's so satisfying to hear an American using the metric system.
4 REVIEWS? We eating good tonight
If you watch them all the algorithm may love me again.
It would be so nice to know how they compare with the hyped Dragonfly Cobalt, which is almost the same price...
I wonder this too, as I own the cobalt and not completely satisfied with it :)
been using the hiby fc4 for a while and i was quite surprised honestly.
Good review! I bought the M15 to use with my Focal Celestee headphones on my cell phone. The sound is excellent except that when I take the bus the sound cuts out for no reason. It might take 30 minutes of listening, or sometimes it's less. I have to unplug the USB wire and plug it back in but it starts again after 5, 10 minutes. I do not understand why. My music source is Qobuz and I don't change anything when it happens. When I'm at home in my living room, it doesn't happen. My connections are still fixed. It's very weird... Do you have any idea what it could be?
How bizarre!
Adding my vote to the Cayin RU6 and RU7 reviews... For the benefit of others because i have both...
Both sound great but i was also shocked at how different they sound from one another. Based on early impressions im finding it hard to comprehend how good the sound separation is on the RU7... And the RU6 sounds soooo gooey (the good kind) by comparison
Yes, these are the top competition for portable dacs it seems. I’m trying to decide between them. That natural, analog sound suits my taste. It would be great to see that comparison.
I have the RU6 and i really like them.
Do you think getting the RU7 will make a impactful difference overall?
@@shashank6393 There was something special about the sound of the RU7 to my ears. I'm listening through the RU7 right now and everything just feels more enjoyable, but I haven't done a detailed enough comparison with the RU6 yet to judge how different they are. From memory it just seems more resolving than the RU6, more crisp around the edges of tones but still warm. The RU6 (from memory) is more warm and less defined even though it's still an enjoyable sound. I am also enjoying the sound of the RU7 more than my Questyle M15 and my MOJO 2 at the moment, but some of that may also be because it's new so I'm not being objective.
@@reflection1119 What about now, 1 month later, mate? Do you still enjoy RU7 more than the others? Does the RU7 at DSD256 is crispy around notes like the M15?
@@ramaidaugirdas definitely still enjoy it more than the M15, if anything, just because it works better. The M15 is buggy when used with my laptop. But I do prefer the sound of the RU7 to the M15 too but I've not switched between the different DSD modes. Just kept it on the lowest so far.
I'd say I enjoy the RU7 as much as the Mojo 2 but the mojo 2 is the better product on all accounts (except portability)... Rightly so given the price difference
I have a Hiby R7 DAP paired with a Mojo2=have had this for over a year. Also have the Questyle (we pronounce it Qstyle here in Oz) and the Hiby FC6 and carry that around in my backpack together with Senns IE900s. Great-both of them!
Loving the new format, dropping 3+ lets me consume at once. As you said the Netflix model, I want to consume in one hit. Works well, can see other UA-camrs follow. So much you could do with this formate. Add more experiments or discoveries gives a great platform to keep the story being to,d. Liking your work 👍 would like to see more android DAPs, and dongles
Gotta review the new KENSEI GO-BAR at $449.
Can you compare the HiBy FC6 to a Cayin RU6?
Is it still relevant?
Comparing the Delta sigma DAC with R2R DAC like hiby fc6.
I think they are standing in different ways.
The ifi go bar is pretty good as well. The thing you need to try and review is the Astell&Kern ACRO L1000 headphone Amplifier. That thing has a giant ridiculously good feeling nob
its the song from that very own movie, that thing you do, pretty good one watched it on tv
really i usually only look at the casts first whether they qualified enough, to download
Fiio KA5 is less expensive and has volume, screen, filters and hi/low gain. Might be worth checking out if you haven't already.
Also 4.4 and 3.5 inputs.
too bad i bought KA3 last year and has no plan for more dongles atm
Probably the best high-power dongle at 265mW@32ohms, unless the Tempotec Sonata BHD Pro has similarly clean power at its advertised 280. Most smaller Chinese manufacturers are advertising higher power output using the Chinese law that lets them promise those power levels even if it means pushing THD+N up to a ridiculous 10% (yes, you read that right, there's no decimal point in that).
Finally got a chance to listen to the Cabasse Rialtos at T.H.E. Show this past weekend. Holy crap are they mind blowing, not just incredible for the price but incredible for the entire show. That $4000 speaker just completely blew 90% of the $200,000+ systems out of the water. Literally the only thing that is stopping me from buying a pair is that I still need to listen to the KEF LS60s before I make my final judgement, that being said I might end up just getting both of them. I cannot stop raving about the Rialtos to everyone that I talk to.
Retired into a large 5th wheel RV and think those Rialto would be perfect and possibly overkill bass wise with my current SVS SB3000 powered subwoofers x2 plus 2 BassShakers in my seating..lol. The dsp they are using seems very interesting with the app control etc., and I believe they do room eq which would be helpful with the RV. I keep watching UA-cam videos and then you mentioned them too...hmm maybe it's fate 😅
Hello. What do u think of the association of the FC6 with the Tanchjim Origin u already tested? Thanks to u from france.
The Cayin RU6 and RU7 needs to be compared and then compared to these two…please!
Does the Questyle M15 sound better than the Questyle QP2R?
Which portable dad is the best. I don’t have any budget
Elon Musk. He has a space ship.
Also the Hiby R8 Mk2.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the Cayin RU6 because that's an R2R dongle that's been out longer than the hiby. So long that Cayin just released the RU7
Edit: do you really have Gregorian chants? You really do listen to a wide range of music which is very helpful because I'm the same way.
probably they did not reach out and pay him to hype it up
Nobody pays me to hype. They do just throw things at me and I auto-hype because they are good.
I haven't used one. I know there are a few other big boys floating around.
This^. Comparison for these niche designs should be based on technology, like HiBy FC6 and Cayin RU6 R2R (NOS-sy/veiled) devices should be compared to eachother, while weird and wonderful current-source devices like Questyle M15 and Apogee Groove should be in another comparison just with eachother.
Z, did my own test, just under DSD from a tablet. Best, D.
Anyone know where I can buy an original black leather case for the M15 (and ship to/within the USA)? Can't seem to buy one on the Questyle website anymore and the only places I've found them elsewhere don't ship to the USA.
I find it harder to adjust the volume on the FC6 with the case.
Plenty of great choices. And the cayin ru7
Hey z, I've hifiman R9 and if I pair it with warm amp will the bass get too much like bloated and distorted?
Not on a solid state. Maybe a really severe tube but not most SS
How are these two Dacs compared to the Qudelix 5K?
Two different categories. The Qudelix is a BLUETOOTH adaptor.
How is the batterylife with them tho? I had dc04 pro and it SUCKED my battery dry
This is the biggest problem they have imo. It's even worse if you are limping along with an aging battery. It's rare for dongles to have built in batteries but I know there are some like shanling's ua5 which is around the $250 range
@@spamcan9208 My phone is showing signs of aging and i just decided to go for the Qudelix 5k. I don’t really want to run anything powerhungry of my phone id rather have Bluetooth, actual battery life and EQ. I had like 1 hour 30 to go from 100%-20%. I sold it to a friend of mine for desktop use after a week i was really disappointed with the insane powerdraw
@@KopfdesRiesen My ES100 has served me well and it's more convenient. If it fails I'd strongly consider the 5K. To be honest with LDAC available you don't need a direct connection anymore if you're out and about doing other things and not focusing on the music.
The Muse M3 I love murders my battery. These seemed WAY better at keeping things at a reasonable drip.
not having physical volume control is a deal breaker for me. I like to send pure signal to the dac, if i am gonna send a signal that's already dialed by android, the signal isn't clean to start with.
what is your recommended third party cable brand usb c to usb A and usb c to usb c for dac???
Cayin RU7: Hold my 🍺
its junk
@@oppje6188 can you please elaborate? I was thinking of buying an RU7
@@natevirtual built quality not good (gacha), my friend bought this new and there's and OLED error, also some report with failure physical button, better you buy this offline or from reputable seller with good return policy
Question still remains, 'that weather these dongle replace expensive DAPs, while considering ONLY&ONLY sound quality using iems?? Zee, could you detect (in blind test) the source if say, M15 against RS6, DX300 etc?
Only one way to know.
@@ZReviews ????if possible, plz enlighten us, by performing this test...🙏
Why didn't you blackout your Reddit Sub in support of the 3rd party apis?
I think you’re a swell guy, I mean not many people can say they got a spot in an RCR review
What about the Antelope Zeo?
You knew I was going to watch this video and want that mousepad. Why you do dis
I own the m15 and i love it! And if you use them for example with laptops,tablets,pc on your desk i highly recomnending for them a fiio kb1 multifunction keyboard,cause those fucking usefull and well built(specially the metal one) and convenient!!!!!!!
How do these compare to the m3?
Name of hiby model is wrong in title. Correct in the description though! (:
I got it. Thanks
I got the M15 whit the HD 800S @ pc / S 24, just nice dudes
Can questyle M15 drive HD650?
Yes
Ops forgot.. M15's best ESS.. cuz it doesnt sound ess.. btw 138mW.. frm pentaconn outy.. peace butter again!
FFS 🤦♂️..can’t Apple just freak’n connect without another POS cable 🤌🏽
FC6 in the title instead of RC6?
Yep I am dumb. Only took me 7 hours to see this comment.
Hey Z...have you ever tested the benchmark dac 1? i found a good deal for one like 250 bux and wondered if i should snag it or not?
can fc6 drive sundara?
I have my doubts.
Retain the critical reviews as much as possible, don't nerf them because we can tell ❤
If something is shit. I shit alllllll over it. These good boys.
Dongle Fondle
Zeos: "I'm not religious"..."check out my Satan mouse pad." 👎👎👎
One word: battery replacement
thicc
When bad things start to happen to you Z , do not look any further than that desk mat you got you just invited bad things to your home ,we will stop watching until you get rid of it GOD BLESS YOU
Hiby doesn't get my $$$ any more.
Told u!!!.. Now we'r talkin gd stuff.
Why i told then u just to.. U should advance then me.. Not me ask then u do.. Let me take ur job then.. peace!
Butter fc6 is chips r2r.. Not ordinary butter...
Wtf did I just read.
Who tf?
I refuse to watch arcane