Turkish National Maths Olympiad 2004

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  • @HeyHeyder
    @HeyHeyder Рік тому +21

    Try this: first replace x=-1; then replace x=3-root of 2; the replace x=1/3-root of 2. Solve the linear problem for f(-1)...that is 1/4.

    • @ukramerican
      @ukramerican Рік тому

      That’s what I did as well

    • @fix5072
      @fix5072 Рік тому

      That is exactly what he did in the video, just with concrete values

  • @eduardciuca217
    @eduardciuca217 Рік тому +23

    You are making it too difficult!
    Let cbr(x)=cube root of x , a=f(-1) , b=f(cbr(2)) and c=f(cbr(1/2)).
    We replace a, b and c and we obtain:
    a+b = 2 , b + c =1/2 and a+c =-1
    Thus 2(a+b+c)=3/2 => a+b+c=3/4 and a=3/4 - 1/2 = 1/4

    • @user-jc2lz6jb2e
      @user-jc2lz6jb2e Рік тому +7

      The approach in the video gives a more general and mechanical approach.
      You often see these kinds of functional equations, where you have to use some action of a group (in this case, the group is Z/3Z, with the function 1/(1-u) being a generator acting on u), so you apply all the actions to get as many equations as there are group elements (3 elements in Z/3Z gives 3 equations), and then you can use linear algebra to solve for the function.

    • @gytoser801
      @gytoser801 Рік тому +1

      @@user-jc2lz6jb2e how is the group Z/3Z in this case

    • @elephantdinosaur2284
      @elephantdinosaur2284 Рік тому +1

      If you let h(u) = 1/(1-u), then h^3(u) = h(h(h(u))) = u. The set {id, h, h^2} is a group like Z/3Z with the group action being function composition.

  • @batapanos2027
    @batapanos2027 Рік тому

    Can you please do JBMO 2012 Prob 4??

  • @beautifulworld6163
    @beautifulworld6163 Місяць тому

    Wow thats so cool.

  • @SuperYoonHo
    @SuperYoonHo Рік тому

    thanks

  • @engjayah
    @engjayah Рік тому +1

    Simpler approach:
    Substitute x = -1; x = 2^(1/3); x = 1/(2^(1/3)) respectively and obtain 2 Equations say 1, 2 and 3
    Now Eqn No. 1+2-3 will implies; 2f(-1) = 1/2 and f(-1) = 1/4😀

    • @engjayah
      @engjayah Рік тому

      Sorry obtain 3 Equations

    • @Vladimir_Pavlov
      @Vladimir_Pavlov Рік тому +2

      You wrote the best solution. Concise and simple.
      I saw the task today . I decided the same way.) (I usually pause the video and don't read the comments while I decide for myself.)

  • @marlongrau246
    @marlongrau246 Рік тому

    As 3 right side I don't get. Plus the sum of 3 eq. Something uncleared.

  • @Yt-ff6hn
    @Yt-ff6hn Рік тому +2

    I thought first to solve the functional equation

  • @marlongrau246
    @marlongrau246 Рік тому

    But still nice process. Just with the right side of as 3 and their sums.

  • @user-hq7hi2sl2o
    @user-hq7hi2sl2o Рік тому +1

    asnwer=-1 isit 🤣🤣🤣🤣