I praise God for the internet and thanks those who had the brilliant idea to put these powerful message on the net you have no idea how much of a blessing these message is to us specially with all the argument that is going on among the Adventist people about the holy spirit if he is a person or not if he is part of the Godhead i think this is the best study I could find about this argument praise the lord for his word and all these good preachers who dig dip to bring us these Truth.to us....
Happy Sabbath Pastor, Am from south Sudan Adventist church and am touch by the preaching of Pastor Randy Skeet. Let you pray for the suffering of my people in south Sudan, and pray for the work of God here that many souls will be won to Christ. Praying for Pastor Randy Skeet to specially visit South Sudan for evangelism in the City of Juba one Day, God willingly.
Thank you for the message Pastor Randy. My External Hard Drive is filled with your messages that I refer to daily for my study of the Word of God and to teach me on the way to follow. I deleted all the other 'things' that were unnecessarily filling it. May God bless you for the purity and clearness with which you deliver the message.
wonderful. Biblical. 100% correct. I don't understand why some people have a problem with this simple message regarding The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit. It's very simple and plain in the bible. Even in the book of Revelation it is written that Jesus Christ is sitted on the right hand side of God the Father. Most Christians in their canal wisdom don't understand this basic rather obvious message.
Amen🙏🙏🙏 That's right...Very simple and plain. I don't understand why many Christians are lost in truth. They need divine surgery to understand God's Word. May God bless and help them to see truth🙏🙏🙏
Lord God bless the work of my hands,please people of God pray for me.i had hard life for the past two years pliz pray for me and help me to concur Satan
i listen to this man preaching and agree with him on almost everything except this one this trinity doctrine is directly from the catholic teaching .Deuteronomy 6v4
Nalbert Hyman I don't know exactly what the Catholic Church teaches about the Trinity but I know what the Bible teaches: Matt. 28:19-"...Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." 1-Father 2-Son (Jesus) 3-Holy Spirit 2 Cor. 13:14-"The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen." 1-Lord Jesus Christ 2-love of God (the Father) 3-Holy Spirit John 14:16-"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter..." 1-and I (Jesus) 2-will pray the Father 3-another Comforter (Holy Spirit) John 14:26-"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name..." 1-Comforter (Holy Spirt) 2-Father will send 3-In My name (Jesus) John 15:26-"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father..." 1-Comforter (Holy Spirit) 2-whom I (Jesus) 3-From the Father Acts 10:38-"How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power." 1-How God (Father) 2-anointed Jesus 3-Holy Ghost 1 Peter 1:2-"...God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ..." 1-God the Father 2-The Spirit 3-Jesus Christ Eph. 2:18-"For through Him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. 1-Him (Jesus) 2-One Spirit (Holy Spirit) 3-the Father -----• Messianic prophecy Isa. 61:1-"The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me..." 1-the Spirit (Holy Spirit) 2-of the Lord GOD (Father) 3-is upon Me (Jesus) -----• The Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ are the one and the same: The Holy Spirit Romans 8:3,9-"God sending His own Son...if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ..." John 16:15 & 17:10-"All things that the Father hath are mine..." "And all mine are thine, and thine are mine..."
The word of God when it is accepted in our heart will transform us . We should be very careful how we accept and reject the word of God.Sanctification is a growing process and it is indeed difficult for babes to eat meat . God put together a plan of salvation stick to it and as you and I grow we will better understand. I am sure that some of us have struggles in other areas of the Bible. It is said “Let Us “ accept the word of God and let us stop trying to figure out whether is one face etc. just accept the functioning of the God head .
If you have not understood that it is a family affair then ponder on Mathew 3:16,17 If you believe the rest of the Bible why hesitate on this section because you cannot fathom God.
The presenter says "They have different functions..." Meaning, Jesus and the Spirit, BUT he does seems to be selective, he would not read these verses...Col 1:16-20, 1Cor 8:6, staying all were and are done by Jesus, OR 1 Cor 15:45, 2 Cor 3:17, which say Jesus is the Spirit, point blank. He ignores plain verses which says Jesus lives in a believer through the Spirit. Saying Jesus and His Spirit are separate beings or personages is making Jesus lifeless, because the bible says "the Spirit is life..." The Spirit is the Life of Jesus. It is Jesus Himself in a divine personality. Is he gonna read the following verses too, correctly, the way they say??? John 17:3, 1 Cor 8:6, 1Tim 2:5, Act 20:28, Eph 4:5,6,7 etc, I mean you read any verse in the bible as it reads IT IS AGAINST THE THEORY HE IS PREACHING,(I MEAN EVEN JOHN 1:1,2; GEN 1,1,2, DO NOT TEACH WHAT HE IS PUSHING FOR, THE TRINITY OR GODHEAD THEORY) LORD HAVE MERCY ON US SDA, WE HAVE LEFT THE PRECIOUS TRUTH WE WERE ONCE GIVEN, JER 6:16.
Jesus says "Howbeit when he the spirit of truth is come he will guide you into all truth..." John 16:13. You did not understand what u are saying...u have to read your Bible more earnestly by the help of the spirit of God (Father n Christ). That's the function of the Holy Spirit. We have three spiritual entities. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. They are all divine(God, spiritual beings) but having different functions. The Father cannot be the Son because he is the Father and function as a Father, but he is God(divine or spiritual). The Son cannot be the Father because he is the Son and function as a Son, but he is God(divine or spiritual). The Holy Spirit cannot be the Father and the Son, but he is the Spirit of God (Father and Son), and function as the Spirit. This is how they are represented as spiritual entities: Father, Son, Holy Spirit (They are one and are all God or divine or spiritual) This is the position by which they function: Father Son Holy Spirit God Bless u🙏🙏🙏
Tabither Obonyo The Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ are the one and the same: The Holy Spirit Romans 8:3,9-"God sending His own Son...if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ..." John 16:15 & 17:10-"All things that the Father hath are mine..." "And all mine are thine, and thine are mine..."
There is no difference. The Father and the Son are God (divine or spiritual). When the Bible says the Spirit of God, it simply means the Spirit of both the Father n Son. There is only one Holy Spirit.
THE HOLY BIBLE DOES NOT SAY BE APOSTOLIC, PENTECOSTAL, CATHOLIC, ORTHODOX, PROTESTANT OR ANY OF THE OTHER MADE UP MAN MADE DENOMINATIONS. GOD SAID BE HOLY. BE A HOLINESS. I WILL TELL YOU WHAT THE HOLY BIBLE DOES SAY. IT SAYS THE CHURCH OF GOD, THE CHURCH OF THE LIVING GOD, THE CHURCH OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, THE CHURCHES GOD WHICH ARE IN CHRIST JESUS, THE CHURCH OF CHRIST, THE CHURCH OF THE FIRST BORN, A HOUSE OF PRAYER, THE WAY, THE WAY OF HOLINESS, THE HIGHWAY AND A WAY OF HOLINESS, THE FAITH THAT WAS ONCE DELIVERED UNTO THE SAINTS BY THE HOLY APOSTLES. THE BIBLE SAYS IT WAS CALLED THE MOST HOLY FAITH READ THE WHOLE JUDE AND YOU WILL SEE IT IN THE HOLY BIBLE WHICH IS THE WORD OF GOD.
About God's church, read Exodus 20:8-11. Which day did God rest? Which day did He make Holy? Which day does He tell us not to work? If you pray and ask God to guide you through the Holy Spirit, he will lead you to truth. The choice is yours to take.
In Act 14 it talks about gathering the church together. Hebrew 10:25 says "Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is, but exhorting one another: and so much more, as ye see the day approaching."
I really don't get this trinity message. If the bible tells us in john 4 :24 that God himself is spirit and we know He is the sources of all life, then how can another separate spirit being exist in the trinity? Mrs white in all her writtens condemn the Trinitarian concept of God existence. Randy skeete I do respect but I think we need to study this well because the history behind the concept and how it creep into the church is out there.
The Eternal Dignitaries of the Trinity.--The eternal heavenly dignitaries--God, and Christ, and the Holy Spirit--arming them [the disciples] with more than mortal energy, . . . would advance with them to the work and convince the world of sin.--Manuscript 145, 1901. {Ev 616.4}
Christ determined to bestow a gift on those who had been with Him and on those who should believe on Him, because this was the occasion of His ascension and inauguration, a jubilee in heaven. What gift could Christ bestow rich enough to signalize and grace His ascension to the mediatorial throne? It must be worthy of His greatness and His royalty. Christ gave His representative, the third person of the Godhead, the Holy Spirit. This Gift could not be excelled. . . . {CTr 301.4} On the day of Pentecost Christ gave His disciples the Holy Spirit as their Comforter. It was ever to abide with His church. During the whole Jewish economy the influence of this Spirit has often been revealed in a marked manner, but not in full. The Spirit had been waiting for the crucifixion, resurrection, and ascension of Christ. For ages prayers had been offered for the fulfillment of the promise, for the impartation of the Spirit; and not one of these earnest supplications had been forgotten. Now for ten days the disciples sent up their petitions, and Christ in heaven added His intercession. He claimed the gift of the Spirit, that He might pour it out upon His people. . . . [Christ] having reached His throne, the Spirit was given as He had promised, and like a rushing, mighty wind, it fell upon those assembled, filling the whole house. It came with a fullness and power, as if for ages it had been restrained, but was now poured forth upon the church, to be communicated to the world. What followed this outpouring? Thousands were converted in a day.-Manuscript 44, 1898. {CTr 301.5}
Message of the Cross Well I suggest you read your Bible again. Matt. 28:19-"...Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." 1-Father 2-Son (Jesus) 3-Holy Spirit 2 Cor. 13:14-"The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen." 1-Lord Jesus Christ 2-love of God (the Father) 3-Holy Spirit John 14:16-"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter..." 1-and I (Jesus) 2-will pray the Father 3-another Comforter (Holy Spirit) John 14:26-"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name..." 1-Comforter (Holy Spirt) 2-Father will send 3-In My name (Jesus) John 15:26-"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father..." 1-Comforter (Holy Spirit) 2-whom I (Jesus) 3-From the Father Acts 10:38-"How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power." 1-How God (Father) 2-anointed Jesus 3-Holy Ghost 1 Peter 1:2-"...God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ..." 1-God the Father 2-The Spirit 3-Jesus Christ Eph. 2:18-"For through Him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. 1-Him (Jesus) 2-One Spirit (Holy Spirit) 3-the Father -----• Messianic prophecy Isa. 61:1-"The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me..." 1-the Spirit (Holy Spirit) 2-of the Lord GOD (Father) 3-is upon Me (Jesus) -----• The Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ are the one and the same: The Holy Spirit Romans 8:3,9-"God sending His own Son...if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ..." John 16:15 & 17:10-"All things that the Father hath are mine..." "And all mine are thine, and thine are mine..."
Reading the comments i see why The adventist church breeds so many offshoots . we are encouraged to question and not just accept the views of others but the Bible is truth and we must ensure that our beliefs a grounded in truth. And truth is not necessarily logical
I disagree that the Holy Spirit is a personage. Any time the holy spirit is spoken of as.. "OF" God not "A" God. The holy spirit is the energy and essence of God the Father and Jesus Christ. We are guided by the spirit filled with the spirit at baptism and grow in the spirit in our Christian journey. Not one of the letters of the New Testament begin with the mention of the holy spirit . If it was a personage don't you think that that was very disrespectful of the apostles not to mention him? Truly there are as Genesis says in the beginning only two God beings . God (the Father) and the Word who became born as Jesus. The spirit was the energy used to create. It says in John 1:3 that "ALL" things were made by Him (the Word . While in Genesis 1:2-3 says the Spirit "of " God moved upon the face of the waters. The bible does not contradict itself. Two beings did not create the earth at that time only the Word through the essence of God's spirit. The Holy Spirit.
you may find John 16:13 helpful to understand the God the Holy Spirit "Howbeit when HE, the Spirit of truth, is come, He will guide you into all truth: for He shall not speak of HIMSELF; but whatsoever HE shall HEAR, that shall HE speak: and HE will shew you things to come" John 16:13
Maria Brown - Maybe you need to read your Bible again. Please consider these texts: Matt. 28:19-"...Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." 1-Father 2-Son (Jesus) 3-Holy Spirit 2 Cor. 13:14-"The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen." 1-Lord Jesus Christ 2-love of God (the Father) 3-Holy Spirit John 14:16-"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter..." 1-and I (Jesus) 2-will pray the Father 3-another Comforter (Holy Spirit) John 14:26-"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name..." 1-Comforter (Holy Spirt) 2-Father will send 3-In My name (Jesus) John 15:26-"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father..." 1-Comforter (Holy Spirit) 2-whom I (Jesus) 3-From the Father Acts 10:38-"How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power." 1-How God (Father) 2-anointed Jesus 3-Holy Ghost 1 Peter 1:2-"...God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ..." 1-God the Father 2-The Spirit 3-Jesus Christ Eph. 2:18-"For through Him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. 1-Him (Jesus) 2-One Spirit (Holy Spirit) 3-the Father -----• Messianic prophecy Isa. 61:1-"The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me..." 1-the Spirit (Holy Spirit) 2-of the Lord GOD (Father) 3-is upon Me (Jesus) -----• The Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ are the one and the same: The Holy Spirit Romans 8:3,9-"God sending His own Son...if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ..." John 16:15 & 17:10-"All things that the Father hath are mine..." "And all mine are thine, and thine are mine..."
I was born into a SDA family and always believed in the ‘trinity: god the father, god the son, and god the holy spirit” doctrine until recently; however, studying the Scriptures with the Spirit of Prophecy and our Pioneers beliefs, I can wholeheartedly say I was dead wrong and all those who believe as such are wrong too, as the trinity doctrine is a false pagan doctrine which was brought into the church primarily by LeRoy Froom whom I found to be a Jesuit Catholic priest and more likely joined the SDA church for the sole purpose to deceive and mislead many thus leading them to perdition. Please study the Scriptures and Spirit of Prophecy diligently with prayer and find out for yourself that NONE of our Pioneers nor Sister White believed in the trinity. For example, she refuted Dr Kellog and a preacher by the name Chapman who came to believe in “god the father, god the son and god the holy spirit”, three gods in unity or “triune god”, thus “god the holy spirit” being a different person to the Father and to the Son [Jesus Christ.] Here just a few quotes from Sister White and some of our Pioneers on this matter, which trinitarians are ignoring if not despising: "Cumbered with humanity, Christ could not be in every place personally; therefore it was altogether for their advantage that He should leave them, go to His Father, and send the Holy Spirit to be His successor on earth. The Holy Spirit is Himself, divested of the personality of humanity, and independent thereof. He would represent Himself as present in all places by His Holy Spirit, as the Omnipresent. “But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall [although unseen by you] teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. ... Nevertheless, I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.” {Lt119-1895.18} "The Son of God shared the Father's throne, and the glory of the eternal, self-existent One encircled both. . . . none but Christ, the Only Begotten of God, could fully enter into His purposes, and to Him it was committed to execute the mighty counsels of His will" (PP, p. 36). "After the earth was created, and the beasts upon it, the Father and Son carried out their purpose, which was designed before the fall of Satan, to make man in their own image. They had wrought together in the creation of the earth and every living thing upon it. And now God says to his Son, "Let us make man in our image." (ST Jan. 9, 1879; par. 13). "In the beginning the Father and the Son had rested upon the Sabbath after Their work of creation." (DA p.769, par.2). “The Lord Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of the Father, is truly God in infinity, but not in personality. Ellen White, Upward Look, page 367 “Christ has given HIS Spirit as a divine power.” - (E.G. White, RH, Nov 19, 1908) “How few realize that Jesus, unseen, is walking by their side!” - (E.G. White, 14MR 125.3) “He [Christ] is an unseen presence in the PERSON of the HOLY SPIRIT,” - (E.G. White, DG 185.2, 1897) “As by faith we look to Jesus, our faith pierces the shadow, and we adore God for His wondrous love in giving JESUS THE COMFORTER.” - (E.G. White, 19MR 297.3) “The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God; it is also the Spirit of Christ.” U. Smith, GC Daily Bulletin, Vol. 4, March 1891, pp. 146, 147 “The Holy Spirit is the SPIRIT OF CHRIST; it is HIS REPRESENTATIVE.” - (E.G. White, 13MR 313.3, 1895) “Here we find that the Holy Spirit is both the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ.” E. J. Waggoner, Christ and His Righteousness, p. 23, 1890 “We learn from this language that when we speak of the Spirit of God we are really speaking of his presence and power.” J. N. Loughborough, Review & Herald, September 13, 1898 “The divine Spirit that the world’s Redeemer promised to send is the presence and power of God.” Signs of the Times, November 23, 1891 “We want the Holy Spirit, which is Jesus Christ.” E. G. White, Lt66, April 10, 1894 “Jesus comes to you as the Spirit of Truth; study the mind of the Spirit, consult your Lord, follow His way.” - (E.G. White, 2MR 337.1) “We cannot be with CHRIST in person, as were His first disciples, but He has sent HIS HOLY SPIRIT to GUIDE US INTO ALL TRUTH, and through this power we too can bear witness for the Saviour. [John 16:13 quoted]” - (E.G. White, Ms30, June 18, 1900) “CHRIST declared that the divine influence of HIS SPIRIT was to be with His followers UNTO THE END. From the DAY OF PENTECOST to the present time, the COMFORTER has been sent to all who have yielded themselves fully to the Lord and to His service.” - (E.G. White, AA, 49.2) “…THERE ARE TWO SPIRITS IN THE WORLD, - THE SPIRIT OF GOD AND THE SPIRIT OF SATAN.” Ellen White, Signs of the Times, November 24, 1887, par. 7 And when He had said this, He [Christ] breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: ... Before the disciples could fulfil their official duties in connection with the church, Christ breathed His Spirit upon them.” - (E.G. White, Desire of Ages, p. 805) “Christ came to our world, but the world could not endure His purity. He has gone to His Father, but He has sent His Holy Spirit to represent Him in the world till he shall come again.” - (E.G. White, Ms1, Jan 11, 1897) “The Father and the Son Alone are to be exalted.” - (E.G. White, YI, July 7, 1898) This is another statement of Sister White which says, I quote: Before the entrance of evil, there was peace and joy throughout the universe. All was in perfect harmony with the Creator’s will. Love for God was supreme, love for one another impartial. Christ the Word, the only begotten of God, was one with the eternal Father,-one in nature, in character, and in purpose,-the only being in all the universe that could enter into all the counsels and purposes of God. (Great Controversy, 493) If this is true, then, how is it that Christ was the ONLY BEING in all the universe that could enter into ALL THE COUNSELS and PURPOSES of God? Where was the ’god the holy spirit?’ After all, if he is ‘god’ being co-eternal and co-equal with the Father, how is it that he could not enter into all the counsels and purposes of God? For example, in John 14:1, John 17:3 and 1 Corinthians 8:6 where we read, I quote, "... ye believe in God, believe also in me." (John 14:1); - two divine beings, and not three! "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3); again two divine beings, and not three!; and "But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him." (1 Corinthians 8:6) Please note that apostle Paul clearly and plainly spelt it out that "...to us there is but one God, the Father" and "one Lord Jesus Christ." Now, if the ONE GOD would consist of three Divine and Co-eternal Beings, as trinitarians believe, then he would have said "but to us there is but one God: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit," but he did not say that. In the New Testament we find ONLY two divine beings, the Father and the Son. For example, Jesus told His disciples He is the Comforter. (John 14:16-18) In verse 18 Jesus called the "Comforter" the "Spirit of Truth" and the "Spirit of Truth" is none other than Christ Himself! (John 14:6) Another example, in John 10:30 we read, I quote, Jesus said "I and my Father are one." This verse does not say, "I and the Father, and the Holy Spirit are one God." Again, in Revelation we find only two Divine Beings sitting on the throne, but no where do we find the Holy Spirit as a separate being to the Father and to the Son. We have to be very careful not to take the Scripture out of context since it interprets itself, as throughout the whole Scripture the Holy Spirit is referred to as the Spirit of God and of Christ. The Scriptures tell us that the Holy Spirit is the 'Spirit of God' (Genesis 1:2; 41:38; Exodus 31:3; 35:31; Numbers 24:2; 1 Samuel 10:10; 19:20, 23; 2 Chronicles 24:20; Job 27:3; Ezekiel 11:24; Mat. 3:16; 12:28; etc.) or the 'Spirit of the Lord God' (Isaiah 21:1) and Spirit of Jesus Christ (Philippians 1:19; 1 Peter 1:11), and not a separate divine being from the Father and the Son, as it never refers to as the 'Lord' or 'God' the Holy Spirit. We MUST be very careful in what we believe as the devil is running to and fro on the face of this earth to deceive and to devour as many as he can. Therefore, study the Scriptures, the Spirit of Prophecy and the history of the church including the beliefs of our Pioneers for yourselves and let none foul you. We need to be like the Bereans, who went home and studied the Scriptures for themselves to see if it were so!
My friend, it is because you never take time to prayerfully study God's word earnestly by the help of his Holy Spirit. That's why you are confused with this simple but plain truth. "Because the carnal mind is enmity against God, for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be" Romans 8:7. Therefore to understand the truth you need a spiritual mind. I just want to encourage you to study more than ever before. God bless you🙏🙏🙏
@@kalomorris20 Dear kalo morris, I did and still do. As I said, I always believed in the trinity, I was even ready to lay down my life for it until the Lord clearly showed me that I was utterly wrong! If you have studied the Scriptures prayerfully, then you can only acknowledge that in the whole Scripture you ONLY find two divne beings: God, the Father, and His Son, two and not three. In Deuteronomy 6:4 we read, I quote, "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:" And Jesus said, I quote, "... ye believe in God, believe also in me." (John 14:1b) "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." John 17:3) TWO DIVINE BEINGS, AND NOT THREE! And apostle Paul said, I quote, "But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him." (1 Corinthians 8:6) AGAIN, TWO DIVINE BEINGS, AND NOT THREE! Or else Paul would have said, But to us there is but one God, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost or Spirit, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. BUT DID NOT! Regarding the Holy Spirit, the Scriptures tell us that it is the 'Spirit of God' (Gen. 1:2; 41:38; Ex. 31:3; 35:31; Num. 24:2; 1 Sam. 10:10; 19:20, 23; 2 Chron. 24:20; Job 27:3; Ezek. 11:24; Mat. 3:16; 12:28; etc.) or the 'Spirit of the Lord God' (Isa. 21:1) and Spirit of Jesus Christ (Phil. 1:19; 1 Pet. 1:11), and not a separate divine being from the Father and the Son, as it never refers to as the 'Lord' or 'God' the Holy Spirit. If you believe in a triune god: god the father, god the son and god the holy spirit, three co-eternal and co-equal beings, which nowhere do we you find in Scripture, then you believe in three gods simply because 1 + 1 + 1 = 3, and not one, no matter how you count them.But, if you still insist that there are three in one, or one in three, you would only need to ask a 4 or 5 years old child who would most certainly smile at you and tell you that 1 + 1 + 1 = 3, and not one. Sadly, children know far better than trinitarians. So, god the holy spirit is none other than Satan himself who invented this false and spurious doctrine through which he robs God the Father and His Son from worship, which belongs them ALONE. In 1 John 2:22b we read, I quote, "... He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son." Therefore the trinity doctrine destroys the Father and Son relationship because trinitarians believe in three co-eternal and co-equal beings, which they can't support with Scripture.
@@rudolfberki8683 Jesus said in Matthew 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:". KJV John 1:1-3 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. KJV Genesis 1:1-3 The Creation 1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. Connecting John 1 and Genesis 1 you should see that there are three divine beings were involved in the creation of the universe. KJV Genesis 1:26 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. KJV John 4:24 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. God the Father God the Son God the Holy Spirit Now based on John 4:24, God is a Spirit. Therefore, if that is what the Bible say, then we can conclude that God the Father is a Spirit God the Son is a Spirit God the Holy Spirit is a Spirit himself, and is the Spirit of the Father and the Son. Father, Son and Holy Spirit are all one or God(God = divine = spiritual being). But having different responsibilities. Father: his role as a Father Son: his role as a Son Holy Spirit: his role as a spirit - The Father is in heaven sitting on his throne. - The Son is in heaven, in the heavenly Sanctuary intercedeing on our behalf to the Father. - The Holy Spirit is with us on earth convicting us of our sins leading us to Christ. They are all one in person, and trinity in responsibility. I believe the information provided is clear n simple enough to understand. All is taken from the Word of God itself. KJV 2 Timothy 3 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: KJV 2 Timothy 2 15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. Why you hesitate my brother?? God Bless you❤🙏🙏🙏
@@kalomorris20 I am afraid, you are utterly wrong as Matthew 28:19 does not support the trinity in any way, shape or form. Jesus said, "... in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:", and not names. I am sure, you know that in Scripture name means character. However, in Acts 10:48 we read, I quote, "And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days." Here we see that Peter commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Now, the quetsion is, did Peter deliberately disobey his Lord? If he did, then he rebelled against Him by introducing a false and pagan practice. If he did the right thing, then thrinitarians cannot use Matthew 28:19 as a proof text. In any way, Matthew 28:19 DOES NOT say that these three are one, or these three are the trune God, or these three are the trinity. John 1:1-3 is does not prove the trinity either. Here the apostle clearly and plainly distinguishes between "the God, ton Teon", and "God, Theos". Therefore "the God" in John 1:1 is the God, the Father, and "God" is His Son. Two divine beings: the Father and the Son, (John 14:1b; 17:3; 1 Corinthians 8:6 and 1 John 2:22b), and not three. Genesis 1:1-3, 26 does not say three, it says, God said let us make man in our image and our likeness. Here God the Father spoke to His Son through whom He created all things, (John 1:3; 1 Corinthians 8:6 and Colossians 1:16). In John 4:24 Jesus tells us that the Father is a spirit being, but He also has a form because He created us [throgh His Son] in His and His Son's image and likeness. So the Father and His Son must have a form because we have a form. Nevertheless, God the Father and His Son have a Spirit, known to as as the Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost, but it is not a separate being from them.
No. No. No. A hundred times, no. God is not a family. There are no members of the Godhead. The Holy Spirit did not write the Ten Commandments. Jesus did not raise Himself from the dead.
KJV 2 Timothy 2 15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. You need to tudy the Word of God with a spiritual mind so that you can clearly understand. "Because the carnal mind is enmity against God, for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be" Romans 8:7 KJV Romans 8 6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. God Bless you🙏🙏🙏
" The bible says over and over that the Father raised him.... but Jesus raised himself..... I said Jesus raised Himself... you see if the Father had raised...." Pastor Skeete then catches himself. It is evident that we lost the capacity for thinking for ourselves. how else can we sit and listen a man contradicting the plainest account of scripture and see people nodding their heads saying amen and calling blatant errors bible truth.
@Andrew Mac My brother you need to study Gods word with a spiritual mind. "Because the carnal mind is enmity against God, for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be" Romans 8:7. God the Father God the Son God the Holy Spirit Can God die? = No Then why did Jesus die, he is God? = Since Jesus is both human and God, therefore in his human condition he died, and raised himself from the dead because he is God under the command of his Father who said unto him(Jesus), tell them that you(Jesus) "have power to lay down your life, and you have power to take it back again". Jesus says "I AM the RESURRECTION and the LIFE". Therefore Christ raised himself from the dead, and the Father is glorified because Christ obey the Fathers command which said that he(Christ) have the power to lay down his life and have power to take it back again. Thus, Gods Word cannot be studied and understood without the leading and guidance of his Holy Spirit. Jesus says "Howbeit when he the spirit of truth is come, he will guide you into all truth. For he shall not speak of himself, but whatsoever he shall hear that shall he speak and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me, for he shall receive of mine and shall shew it unto you. All things that the Father hath are mine, therefore said i, that he shall take of mine and shall shew it unto you" John 16:13-15. God Bless my brother🙏🙏🙏
I praise God for the internet and thanks those who had the brilliant idea to put these powerful message on the net you have no idea how much of a blessing these message is to us specially with all the argument that is going on among the Adventist people about the holy spirit if he is a person or not if he is part of the Godhead i think this is the best study I could find about this argument praise the lord for his word and all these good preachers who dig dip to bring us these Truth.to us....
Marie Savannah
thanks a lot.please keep up the good work you're doing
Happy Sabbath To You Pastor Randy Skeete. May God Continue To Bless You.
Very powerful message man of God. By willing of God you may come to visit us here in Ethiopia.
WOW! WHAT A POWERFUL STUDY! I LEARNED ALOT!
Happy Sabbath Pastor, Am from south Sudan Adventist church and am touch by the preaching of Pastor Randy Skeet. Let you pray for the suffering of my people in south Sudan, and pray for the work of God here that many souls will be won to Christ.
Praying for Pastor Randy Skeet to specially visit South Sudan for evangelism in the City of Juba one Day, God willingly.
God bless you, from SMU, university in South Africa. You are greatly beloved from our side, God bless the movement worldwide. Amen
So powerful and elaborate. I love the message.
Thank you for the message Pastor Randy. My External Hard Drive is filled with your messages that I refer to daily for my study of the Word of God and to teach me on the way to follow. I deleted all the other 'things' that were unnecessarily filling it. May God bless you for the purity and clearness with which you deliver the message.
wonderful. Biblical. 100% correct. I don't understand why some people have a problem with this simple message regarding The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit. It's very simple and plain in the bible. Even in the book of Revelation it is written that Jesus Christ is sitted on the right hand side of God the Father. Most Christians in their canal wisdom don't understand this basic rather obvious message.
Amen🙏🙏🙏 That's right...Very simple and plain. I don't understand why many Christians are lost in truth. They need divine surgery to understand God's Word. May God bless and help them to see truth🙏🙏🙏
Lord God bless the work of my hands,please people of God pray for me.i had hard life for the past two years pliz pray for me and help me to concur Satan
A church divided against itself cannot stand let us unite to further the cause of Christ
iI just admire his teachings God bless him
i listen to this man preaching and agree with him on almost everything except this one this trinity doctrine is directly from the catholic teaching .Deuteronomy 6v4
Nalbert Hyman
I don't know exactly what the Catholic Church teaches about the Trinity but I know what the Bible teaches:
Matt. 28:19-"...Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost."
1-Father
2-Son (Jesus)
3-Holy Spirit
2 Cor. 13:14-"The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen."
1-Lord Jesus Christ
2-love of God (the Father)
3-Holy Spirit
John 14:16-"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter..."
1-and I (Jesus)
2-will pray the Father
3-another Comforter (Holy Spirit)
John 14:26-"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name..."
1-Comforter (Holy Spirt)
2-Father will send
3-In My name (Jesus)
John 15:26-"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father..."
1-Comforter (Holy Spirit)
2-whom I (Jesus)
3-From the Father
Acts 10:38-"How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power."
1-How God (Father)
2-anointed Jesus
3-Holy Ghost
1 Peter 1:2-"...God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ..."
1-God the Father
2-The Spirit
3-Jesus Christ
Eph. 2:18-"For through Him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
1-Him (Jesus)
2-One Spirit (Holy Spirit)
3-the Father
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Messianic prophecy
Isa. 61:1-"The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me..."
1-the Spirit (Holy Spirit)
2-of the Lord GOD (Father)
3-is upon Me (Jesus)
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The Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ are the one and the same: The Holy Spirit
Romans 8:3,9-"God sending His own Son...if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ..."
John 16:15 & 17:10-"All things that the Father hath are mine..." "And all mine are thine, and thine are mine..."
The word of God when it is accepted in our heart will transform us . We should be very careful how we accept and reject the word of God.Sanctification is a growing process and it is indeed difficult for babes to eat meat . God put together a plan of salvation stick to it and as you and I grow we will better understand. I am sure that some of us have struggles in other areas of the Bible. It is said
“Let Us “ accept the word of God and let us stop trying to figure out whether is one face etc. just accept the functioning of the God head .
If you have not understood that it is a family affair then ponder on Mathew 3:16,17
If you believe the rest of the Bible why hesitate on this section because you cannot fathom God.
Amen my brother....absolutely right🙏🙏 God bless🙏🙏🙏
John 14:16, 14:26,15:26,16:7 KJV
The presenter says "They have different functions..." Meaning, Jesus and the Spirit, BUT he does seems to be selective, he would not read these verses...Col 1:16-20, 1Cor 8:6, staying all were and are done by Jesus, OR 1 Cor 15:45, 2 Cor 3:17, which say Jesus is the Spirit, point blank. He ignores plain verses which says Jesus lives in a believer through the Spirit. Saying Jesus and His Spirit are separate beings or personages is making Jesus lifeless, because the bible says "the Spirit is life..." The Spirit is the Life of Jesus. It is Jesus Himself in a divine personality.
Is he gonna read the following verses too, correctly, the way they say???
John 17:3, 1 Cor 8:6, 1Tim 2:5, Act 20:28, Eph 4:5,6,7 etc,
I mean you read any verse in the bible as it reads IT IS AGAINST THE THEORY HE IS PREACHING,(I MEAN EVEN JOHN 1:1,2; GEN 1,1,2, DO NOT TEACH WHAT HE IS PUSHING FOR, THE TRINITY OR GODHEAD THEORY)
LORD HAVE MERCY ON US SDA, WE HAVE LEFT THE PRECIOUS TRUTH WE WERE ONCE GIVEN, JER 6:16.
Jesus says "Howbeit when he the spirit of truth is come he will guide you into all truth..." John 16:13.
You did not understand what u are saying...u have to read your Bible more earnestly by the help of the spirit of God (Father n Christ). That's the function of the Holy Spirit.
We have three spiritual entities. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. They are all divine(God, spiritual beings) but having different functions.
The Father cannot be the Son because he is the Father and function as a Father, but he is God(divine or spiritual). The Son cannot be the Father because he is the Son and function as a Son, but he is God(divine or spiritual). The Holy Spirit cannot be the Father and the Son, but he is the Spirit of God (Father and Son), and function as the Spirit.
This is how they are represented as spiritual entities:
Father, Son, Holy Spirit (They are one and are all God or divine or spiritual)
This is the position by which they function:
Father
Son
Holy Spirit
God Bless u🙏🙏🙏
What is the difference between the Spirit of God (Gen 1-2) and the Spirit of Christ ? (Romans 8:9)
Tabither Obonyo
The Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ are the one and the same: The Holy Spirit
Romans 8:3,9-"God sending His own Son...if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ..."
John 16:15 & 17:10-"All things that the Father hath are mine..." "And all mine are thine, and thine are mine..."
There is no difference. The Father and the Son are God (divine or spiritual). When the Bible says the Spirit of God, it simply means the Spirit of both the Father n Son. There is only one Holy Spirit.
THE HOLY BIBLE DOES NOT SAY BE APOSTOLIC, PENTECOSTAL, CATHOLIC, ORTHODOX, PROTESTANT OR ANY OF THE OTHER MADE UP MAN MADE DENOMINATIONS. GOD SAID BE HOLY. BE A HOLINESS. I WILL TELL YOU WHAT THE HOLY BIBLE DOES SAY. IT SAYS THE CHURCH OF GOD, THE CHURCH OF THE LIVING GOD, THE CHURCH OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, THE CHURCHES GOD WHICH ARE IN CHRIST JESUS, THE CHURCH OF CHRIST, THE CHURCH OF THE FIRST BORN, A HOUSE OF PRAYER, THE WAY, THE WAY OF HOLINESS, THE HIGHWAY AND A WAY OF HOLINESS, THE FAITH THAT WAS ONCE DELIVERED UNTO THE SAINTS BY THE HOLY APOSTLES. THE BIBLE SAYS IT WAS CALLED THE MOST HOLY FAITH READ THE WHOLE JUDE AND YOU WILL SEE IT IN THE HOLY BIBLE WHICH IS THE WORD OF GOD.
About God's church, read Exodus 20:8-11. Which day did God rest? Which day did He make Holy? Which day does He tell us not to work? If you pray and ask God to guide you through the Holy Spirit, he will lead you to truth. The choice is yours to take.
In Act 14 it talks about gathering the church together. Hebrew 10:25 says "Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is, but exhorting one another: and so much more, as ye see the day approaching."
I really don't get this trinity message. If the bible tells us in john 4 :24 that God himself is spirit and we know He is the sources of all life, then how can another separate spirit being exist in the trinity? Mrs white in all her writtens condemn the Trinitarian concept of God existence. Randy skeete I do respect but I think we need to study this well because the history behind the concept and how it creep into the church is out there.
The Eternal Dignitaries of the Trinity.--The eternal heavenly dignitaries--God, and Christ, and the Holy Spirit--arming them [the disciples] with more than mortal energy, . . . would advance with them to the work and convince the world of sin.--Manuscript 145, 1901. {Ev 616.4}
Christ determined to bestow a gift on those who had been with Him and on those who should believe on Him, because this was the occasion of His ascension and inauguration, a jubilee in heaven. What gift could Christ bestow rich enough to signalize and grace His ascension to the mediatorial throne? It must be worthy of His greatness and His royalty. Christ gave His representative, the third person of the Godhead, the Holy Spirit. This Gift could not be excelled. . . . {CTr 301.4}
On the day of Pentecost Christ gave His disciples the Holy Spirit as their Comforter. It was ever to abide with His church. During the whole Jewish economy the influence of this Spirit has often been revealed in a marked manner, but not in full. The Spirit had been waiting for the crucifixion, resurrection, and ascension of Christ. For ages prayers had been offered for the fulfillment of the promise, for the impartation of the Spirit; and not one of these earnest supplications had been forgotten. Now for ten days the disciples sent up their petitions, and Christ in heaven added His intercession. He claimed the gift of the Spirit, that He might pour it out upon His people. . . . [Christ] having reached His throne, the Spirit was given as He had promised, and like a rushing, mighty wind, it fell upon those assembled, filling the whole house. It came with a fullness and power, as if for ages it had been restrained, but was now poured forth upon the church, to be communicated to the world. What followed this outpouring? Thousands were converted in a day.-Manuscript 44, 1898. {CTr 301.5}
Why does the Bible tell us to baptize in the name of The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit?
The message is 100% correct and biblical. its rather obvious
Message of the Cross
Well I suggest you read your Bible again.
Matt. 28:19-"...Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost."
1-Father
2-Son (Jesus)
3-Holy Spirit
2 Cor. 13:14-"The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen."
1-Lord Jesus Christ
2-love of God (the Father)
3-Holy Spirit
John 14:16-"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter..."
1-and I (Jesus)
2-will pray the Father
3-another Comforter (Holy Spirit)
John 14:26-"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name..."
1-Comforter (Holy Spirt)
2-Father will send
3-In My name (Jesus)
John 15:26-"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father..."
1-Comforter (Holy Spirit)
2-whom I (Jesus)
3-From the Father
Acts 10:38-"How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power."
1-How God (Father)
2-anointed Jesus
3-Holy Ghost
1 Peter 1:2-"...God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ..."
1-God the Father
2-The Spirit
3-Jesus Christ
Eph. 2:18-"For through Him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
1-Him (Jesus)
2-One Spirit (Holy Spirit)
3-the Father
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Messianic prophecy
Isa. 61:1-"The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me..."
1-the Spirit (Holy Spirit)
2-of the Lord GOD (Father)
3-is upon Me (Jesus)
-----•
The Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ are the one and the same: The Holy Spirit
Romans 8:3,9-"God sending His own Son...if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ..."
John 16:15 & 17:10-"All things that the Father hath are mine..." "And all mine are thine, and thine are mine..."
Reading the comments i see why The adventist church breeds so many offshoots . we are encouraged to question and not just accept the views of others but the Bible is truth and we must ensure that our beliefs a grounded in truth. And truth is not necessarily logical
I disagree that the Holy Spirit is a personage. Any time the holy spirit is spoken of as.. "OF" God not "A" God. The holy spirit is the energy and essence of God the Father and Jesus Christ. We are guided by the spirit filled with the spirit at baptism and grow in the spirit in our Christian journey. Not one of the letters of the New Testament begin with the mention of the holy spirit . If it was a personage don't you think that that was very disrespectful of the apostles not to mention him? Truly there are as Genesis says in the beginning only two God beings . God (the Father) and the Word who became born as Jesus. The spirit was the energy used to create. It says in John 1:3 that "ALL" things were made by Him (the Word . While in Genesis 1:2-3 says the Spirit "of " God moved upon the face of the waters. The bible does not contradict itself. Two beings did not create the earth at that time only the Word through the essence of God's spirit. The Holy Spirit.
you may find John 16:13 helpful to understand the God the Holy Spirit
"Howbeit when HE, the Spirit of truth, is come, He will guide you into all truth: for He shall not speak of HIMSELF; but whatsoever HE shall HEAR, that shall HE speak: and HE will shew you things to come" John 16:13
Maria Brown - Maybe you need to read your Bible again. Please consider these texts:
Matt. 28:19-"...Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost."
1-Father
2-Son (Jesus)
3-Holy Spirit
2 Cor. 13:14-"The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen."
1-Lord Jesus Christ
2-love of God (the Father)
3-Holy Spirit
John 14:16-"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter..."
1-and I (Jesus)
2-will pray the Father
3-another Comforter (Holy Spirit)
John 14:26-"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name..."
1-Comforter (Holy Spirt)
2-Father will send
3-In My name (Jesus)
John 15:26-"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father..."
1-Comforter (Holy Spirit)
2-whom I (Jesus)
3-From the Father
Acts 10:38-"How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power."
1-How God (Father)
2-anointed Jesus
3-Holy Ghost
1 Peter 1:2-"...God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ..."
1-God the Father
2-The Spirit
3-Jesus Christ
Eph. 2:18-"For through Him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
1-Him (Jesus)
2-One Spirit (Holy Spirit)
3-the Father
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Messianic prophecy
Isa. 61:1-"The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me..."
1-the Spirit (Holy Spirit)
2-of the Lord GOD (Father)
3-is upon Me (Jesus)
-----•
The Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ are the one and the same: The Holy Spirit
Romans 8:3,9-"God sending His own Son...if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ..."
John 16:15 & 17:10-"All things that the Father hath are mine..." "And all mine are thine, and thine are mine..."
I was born into a SDA family and always believed in the ‘trinity: god the father, god the son, and god the holy spirit” doctrine until recently; however, studying the Scriptures with the Spirit of Prophecy and our Pioneers beliefs, I can wholeheartedly say I was dead wrong and all those who believe as such are wrong too, as the trinity doctrine is a false pagan doctrine which was brought into the church primarily by LeRoy Froom whom I found to be a Jesuit Catholic priest and more likely joined the SDA church for the sole purpose to deceive and mislead many thus leading them to perdition. Please study the Scriptures and Spirit of Prophecy diligently with prayer and find out for yourself that NONE of our Pioneers nor Sister White believed in the trinity. For example, she refuted Dr Kellog and a preacher by the name Chapman who came to believe in “god the father, god the son and god the holy spirit”, three gods in unity or “triune god”, thus “god the holy spirit” being a different person to the Father and to the Son [Jesus Christ.] Here just a few quotes from Sister White and some of our Pioneers on this matter, which trinitarians are ignoring if not despising:
"Cumbered with humanity, Christ could not be in every place personally; therefore it was altogether for their advantage that He should leave them, go to His Father, and send the Holy Spirit to be His successor on earth. The Holy Spirit is Himself, divested of the personality of humanity, and independent thereof. He would represent Himself as present in all places by His Holy Spirit, as the Omnipresent. “But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall [although unseen by you] teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. ... Nevertheless, I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.” {Lt119-1895.18}
"The Son of God shared the Father's throne, and the glory of the eternal, self-existent One encircled both. . . . none but Christ, the Only Begotten of God, could fully enter into His purposes, and to Him it was committed to execute the mighty counsels of His will" (PP, p. 36).
"After the earth was created, and the beasts upon it, the Father and Son carried out their purpose, which was designed before the fall of Satan, to make man in their own image. They had wrought together in the creation of the earth and every living thing upon it. And now God says to his Son, "Let us make man in our image." (ST Jan. 9, 1879; par. 13).
"In the beginning the Father and the Son had rested upon the Sabbath after Their work of creation." (DA p.769, par.2).
“The Lord Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of the Father, is truly God in infinity, but not in personality. Ellen White, Upward Look, page 367
“Christ has given HIS Spirit as a divine power.” - (E.G. White, RH, Nov 19, 1908)
“How few realize that Jesus, unseen, is walking by their side!” - (E.G. White, 14MR 125.3)
“He [Christ] is an unseen presence in the PERSON of the HOLY SPIRIT,” - (E.G. White, DG 185.2, 1897)
“As by faith we look to Jesus, our faith pierces the shadow, and we adore God for His wondrous love in giving JESUS THE COMFORTER.” - (E.G. White, 19MR 297.3)
“The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God; it is also the Spirit of Christ.” U. Smith, GC Daily Bulletin, Vol. 4, March 1891, pp. 146, 147
“The Holy Spirit is the SPIRIT OF CHRIST; it is HIS REPRESENTATIVE.” - (E.G. White, 13MR 313.3, 1895)
“Here we find that the Holy Spirit is both the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ.” E. J. Waggoner, Christ and His Righteousness, p. 23, 1890
“We learn from this language that when we speak of the Spirit of God we are really speaking of his presence and power.” J. N. Loughborough, Review & Herald, September 13, 1898
“The divine Spirit that the world’s Redeemer promised to send is the presence and power of God.” Signs of the Times, November 23, 1891
“We want the Holy Spirit, which is Jesus Christ.” E. G. White, Lt66, April 10, 1894
“Jesus comes to you as the Spirit of Truth; study the mind of the Spirit, consult your Lord, follow His way.” - (E.G. White, 2MR 337.1)
“We cannot be with CHRIST in person, as were His first disciples, but He has sent HIS HOLY SPIRIT to GUIDE US INTO ALL TRUTH, and through this power we too can bear witness for the Saviour. [John 16:13 quoted]” - (E.G. White, Ms30, June 18, 1900)
“CHRIST declared that the divine influence of HIS SPIRIT was to be with His followers UNTO THE END. From the DAY OF PENTECOST to the present time, the COMFORTER has been sent to all who have yielded themselves fully to the Lord and to His service.” - (E.G. White, AA, 49.2)
“…THERE ARE TWO SPIRITS IN THE WORLD, - THE SPIRIT OF GOD AND THE SPIRIT OF SATAN.” Ellen White, Signs of the Times, November 24, 1887, par. 7
And when He had said this, He [Christ] breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: ... Before the disciples could fulfil their official duties in connection with the church, Christ breathed His Spirit upon them.” - (E.G. White, Desire of Ages, p. 805)
“Christ came to our world, but the world could not endure His purity. He has gone to His Father, but He has sent His Holy Spirit to represent Him in the world till he shall come again.” - (E.G. White, Ms1, Jan 11, 1897)
“The Father and the Son Alone are to be exalted.” - (E.G. White, YI, July 7, 1898)
This is another statement of Sister White which says, I quote:
Before the entrance of evil, there was peace and joy throughout the universe. All was in perfect harmony with the Creator’s will. Love for God was supreme, love for one another impartial. Christ the Word, the only begotten of God, was one with the eternal Father,-one in nature, in character, and in purpose,-the only being in all the universe that could enter into all the counsels and purposes of God. (Great Controversy, 493)
If this is true, then, how is it that Christ was the ONLY BEING in all the universe that could enter into ALL THE COUNSELS and PURPOSES of God? Where was the ’god the holy spirit?’ After all, if he is ‘god’ being co-eternal and co-equal with the Father, how is it that he could not enter into all the counsels and purposes of God?
For example, in John 14:1, John 17:3 and 1 Corinthians 8:6 where we read, I quote,
"... ye believe in God, believe also in me." (John 14:1); - two divine beings, and not three!
"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3); again two divine beings, and not three!; and
"But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him." (1 Corinthians 8:6)
Please note that apostle Paul clearly and plainly spelt it out that "...to us there is but one God, the Father" and "one Lord Jesus Christ." Now, if the ONE GOD would consist of three Divine and Co-eternal Beings, as trinitarians believe, then he would have said "but to us there is but one God: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit," but he did not say that.
In the New Testament we find ONLY two divine beings, the Father and the Son. For example, Jesus told His disciples He is the Comforter. (John 14:16-18) In verse 18 Jesus called the "Comforter" the "Spirit of Truth" and the "Spirit of Truth" is none other than Christ Himself! (John 14:6) Another example, in John 10:30 we read, I quote, Jesus said "I and my Father are one." This verse does not say, "I and the Father, and the Holy Spirit are one God." Again, in Revelation we find only two Divine Beings sitting on the throne, but no where do we find the Holy Spirit as a separate being to the Father and to the Son. We have to be very careful not to take the Scripture out of context since it interprets itself, as throughout the whole Scripture the Holy Spirit is referred to as the Spirit of God and of Christ.
The Scriptures tell us that the Holy Spirit is the 'Spirit of God' (Genesis 1:2; 41:38; Exodus 31:3; 35:31; Numbers 24:2; 1 Samuel 10:10; 19:20, 23; 2 Chronicles 24:20; Job 27:3; Ezekiel 11:24; Mat. 3:16; 12:28; etc.) or the 'Spirit of the Lord God' (Isaiah 21:1) and Spirit of Jesus Christ (Philippians 1:19; 1 Peter 1:11), and not a separate divine being from the Father and the Son, as it never refers to as the 'Lord' or 'God' the Holy Spirit.
We MUST be very careful in what we believe as the devil is running to and fro on the face of this earth to deceive and to devour as many as he can. Therefore, study the Scriptures, the Spirit of Prophecy and the history of the church including the beliefs of our Pioneers for yourselves and let none foul you. We need to be like the Bereans, who went home and studied the Scriptures for themselves to see if it were so!
My friend, it is because you never take time to prayerfully study God's word earnestly by the help of his Holy Spirit. That's why you are confused with this simple but plain truth. "Because the carnal mind is enmity against God, for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be" Romans 8:7. Therefore to understand the truth you need a spiritual mind.
I just want to encourage you to study more than ever before. God bless you🙏🙏🙏
@@kalomorris20
Dear kalo morris, I did and still do. As I said, I always believed in the trinity, I was even ready to lay down my life for it until the Lord clearly showed me that I was utterly wrong!
If you have studied the Scriptures prayerfully, then you can only acknowledge that in the whole Scripture you ONLY find two divne beings: God, the Father, and His Son, two and not three.
In Deuteronomy 6:4 we read, I quote,
"Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:"
And Jesus said, I quote,
"... ye believe in God, believe also in me." (John 14:1b)
"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." John 17:3)
TWO DIVINE BEINGS, AND NOT THREE!
And apostle Paul said, I quote,
"But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him." (1 Corinthians 8:6)
AGAIN, TWO DIVINE BEINGS, AND NOT THREE! Or else Paul would have said, But to us there is but one God, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost or Spirit, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. BUT DID NOT!
Regarding the Holy Spirit, the Scriptures tell us that it is the 'Spirit of God' (Gen. 1:2; 41:38; Ex. 31:3; 35:31; Num. 24:2; 1 Sam. 10:10; 19:20, 23; 2 Chron. 24:20; Job 27:3; Ezek. 11:24; Mat. 3:16; 12:28; etc.) or the 'Spirit of the Lord God' (Isa. 21:1) and Spirit of Jesus Christ (Phil. 1:19; 1 Pet. 1:11), and not a separate divine being from the Father and the Son, as it never refers to as the 'Lord' or 'God' the Holy Spirit.
If you believe in a triune god: god the father, god the son and god the holy spirit, three co-eternal and co-equal beings, which nowhere do we you find in Scripture, then you believe in three gods simply because 1 + 1 + 1 = 3, and not one, no matter how you count them.But, if you still insist that there are three in one, or one in three, you would only need to ask a 4 or 5 years old child who would most certainly smile at you and tell you that 1 + 1 + 1 = 3, and not one. Sadly, children know far better than trinitarians.
So, god the holy spirit is none other than Satan himself who invented this false and spurious doctrine through which he robs God the Father and His Son from worship, which belongs them ALONE.
In 1 John 2:22b we read, I quote,
"... He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son."
Therefore the trinity doctrine destroys the Father and Son relationship because trinitarians believe in three co-eternal and co-equal beings, which they can't support with Scripture.
@@rudolfberki8683 Jesus said in Matthew 28:19
"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:".
KJV John 1:1-3
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
KJV Genesis 1:1-3
The Creation
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Connecting John 1 and Genesis 1 you should see that there are three divine beings were involved in the creation of the universe.
KJV Genesis 1:26
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
KJV John 4:24
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
God the Father
God the Son
God the Holy Spirit
Now based on John 4:24, God is a Spirit. Therefore, if that is what the Bible say, then we can conclude that
God the Father is a Spirit
God the Son is a Spirit
God the Holy Spirit is a Spirit himself, and is the Spirit of the Father and the Son.
Father, Son and Holy Spirit are all one or God(God = divine = spiritual being). But having different responsibilities.
Father: his role as a Father
Son: his role as a Son
Holy Spirit: his role as a spirit
- The Father is in heaven sitting on his throne.
- The Son is in heaven, in the heavenly Sanctuary intercedeing on our behalf to the Father.
- The Holy Spirit is with us on earth convicting us of our sins leading us to Christ.
They are all one in person, and trinity in responsibility.
I believe the information provided is clear n simple enough to understand. All is taken from the Word of God itself.
KJV 2 Timothy 3
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
KJV 2 Timothy 2
15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Why you hesitate my brother??
God Bless you❤🙏🙏🙏
@@kalomorris20 I am afraid, you are utterly wrong as Matthew 28:19 does not support the trinity in any way, shape or form. Jesus said, "... in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:", and not names. I am sure, you know that in Scripture name means character. However, in Acts 10:48 we read, I quote,
"And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days."
Here we see that Peter commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Now, the quetsion is, did Peter deliberately disobey his Lord? If he did, then he rebelled against Him by introducing a false and pagan practice. If he did the right thing, then thrinitarians cannot use Matthew 28:19 as a proof text. In any way, Matthew 28:19 DOES NOT say that these three are one, or these three are the trune God, or these three are the trinity.
John 1:1-3 is does not prove the trinity either. Here the apostle clearly and plainly distinguishes between "the God, ton Teon", and "God, Theos". Therefore "the God" in John 1:1 is the God, the Father, and "God" is His Son. Two divine beings: the Father and the Son, (John 14:1b; 17:3; 1 Corinthians 8:6 and 1 John 2:22b), and not three. Genesis 1:1-3, 26 does not say three, it says, God said let us make man in our image and our likeness. Here God the Father spoke to His Son through whom He created all things, (John 1:3; 1 Corinthians 8:6 and Colossians 1:16).
In John 4:24 Jesus tells us that the Father is a spirit being, but He also has a form because He created us [throgh His Son] in His and His Son's image and likeness. So the Father and His Son must have a form because we have a form. Nevertheless, God the Father and His Son have a Spirit, known to as as the Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost, but it is not a separate being from them.
he is a little to long but very powerfull
Alethia Williams We spend more time doing less essential things
No. No. No. A hundred times, no. God is not a family. There are no members of the Godhead. The Holy Spirit did not write the Ten Commandments. Jesus did not raise Himself from the dead.
KJV 2 Timothy 2
15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
You need to tudy the Word of God with a spiritual mind so that you can clearly understand. "Because the carnal mind is enmity against God, for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be" Romans 8:7
KJV Romans 8
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
God Bless you🙏🙏🙏
" The bible says over and over that the Father raised him.... but Jesus raised himself..... I said Jesus raised Himself... you see if the Father had raised...." Pastor Skeete then catches himself. It is evident that we lost the capacity for thinking for ourselves. how else can we sit and listen a man contradicting the plainest account of scripture and see people nodding their heads saying amen and calling blatant errors bible truth.
@Andrew Mac My brother you need to study Gods word with a spiritual mind. "Because the carnal mind is enmity against God, for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be" Romans 8:7.
God the Father
God the Son
God the Holy Spirit
Can God die? = No
Then why did Jesus die, he is God? = Since Jesus is both human and God, therefore in his human condition he died, and raised himself from the dead because he is God under the command of his Father who said unto him(Jesus), tell them that you(Jesus) "have power to lay down your life, and you have power to take it back again".
Jesus says "I AM the RESURRECTION and the LIFE".
Therefore Christ raised himself from the dead, and the Father is glorified because Christ obey the Fathers command which said that he(Christ) have the power to lay down his life and have power to take it back again.
Thus, Gods Word cannot be studied and understood without the leading and guidance of his Holy Spirit. Jesus says "Howbeit when he the spirit of truth is come, he will guide you into all truth. For he shall not speak of himself, but whatsoever he shall hear that shall he speak and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me, for he shall receive of mine and shall shew it unto you. All things that the Father hath are mine, therefore said i, that he shall take of mine and shall shew it unto you" John 16:13-15.
God Bless my brother🙏🙏🙏