Baby Tiger, the Panzer 1 Ausf. F | Cursed by Design
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When one thinks of German tanks of the Second World War, the mind might immediately envision vehicles such as the infamous Tiger, or maybe even the Panther or Panzer IV. However, as many of you may already know, there were many more tanks developed and produced by the Germans during the war. Today we will be taking a look at one of the older production model tanks of the German Army, in the form of the Panzer I.
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how your comment is 8 hrs ago but the vid is 10 min ago
@@nygelterns4683 unlisted
@@kommandantgalileo ok
Or German attempt at British matilda I tank.
Don't know if it still exists or not but i remember in a video of a museum or convention there what was a turreted long gun PZ4 with a frontal slope can't remember if it was a frankenstien tank
I want to know what the video was
And fond any information on that tank
Part 1: Panzer I Ausf. F AKA Tiger Kitten
Part 2: Panzer II J AKA MiniMaus
Yes
The Mini Maus is the Pz. 38H.
Lol
@@bretwalton6535 they both are. actually Pz. 38H. is more like a Mini VK100.01 (H)
:)
OH GOD THE VISION PORTS
Okay relatively speaking this is one of the most hilariously cursed tanks I have ever seen.
@Oliver Viehland The BRZ is essentially the same thing with a bit more horsepower and RSDs are standard. Different folks different strokes.
You cant deny its effectiveness, especially on early wars and on towns, where resistance people didnt have that much firepower.
You haven’t seen the hen and chick tank
@@reedman0780 behold this example of superior German engineering
@@8dgh0 please elaborate i’m looking for it now
EDIT: oh my god its modular
Feed it enough spare parts, and petrol and eventually it will grow into a Tiger. Just don't overfeed it after midnight or you'll get a Maus.
It will become the Ratte once the supply runs out
Imagine the chaos it might bring if it ever got produced. Suddenly every German tank really becomes a Tiger.
Stugtiger and pantiger...yes
Suddenly every German tank breaks down before being able to enter combat.
@@DanieleCapellini Don't forget running out of fuel.
@@arya31ful fuel? We dont need fuel where we're going!
@@DanieleCapellini and ammo
I love these "compact heavy tanks"! They are so fucking cute. I get the same feeling looking at these as i get when i see a puppy
Yeah I would pet it but it'd shoot me
It's fun to see videos like this that bring light to designs and vehicles people would not normally see.
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I'm still holding strong that he'll eventually do:
"The German M-10 Wolvorine Wannabee, the Ersatz Panther | Cursed by Design"
There isn't really a video to make though. It's just a panther with some visual modifications and the muzzle brake removed.
@@Kyle-gw6qp And so is the tank he just talked about in this video, it's just a Panzer 1 with more armor and modified suspension
@@anm10wolvorinenotapanther32 Well yes. The modifications actually change the characteristics of the tank. The only thing that's different in the Erzatz Panther's characteristics is that the gun doesn't work.
@@Kyle-gw6qp Very good points you are making there I must say, the changes are much more than just a malfunctioning gun(obviously) but I suppose the history around the Ersatz Panther is just too limited to justify an entire episode for it. Still hoping for it tho and in the mean time I still have Meme Tanks 1
@@anm10wolvorinenotapanther32 The changes were purely cosmetic. The only non cosmetic change was the useless gun.
7:26 I've been there in Belgrade, it's great, there are many more similiar-sized early war tanks, and the whole exhibit is just outside, totally free.
I believe that is where the mystery Sdkfz 250 is, the one with the Pak 38 and welded roof.
@@_-.-_-_.._--.-_-_----_-.--_._- Yes, modified by the partizans i belive
@@strajko2117 no partisans dident mod anything you need a factory to do that , there more versions of the 250 you guys search for the 250/9
If you want to see late war and cold war tanks, come to Poland to Warsaw to fort "Czerniaków". Outside exibition is free, however inside exibition is paid, but it's cheap. You can see there an IS-3, IS-2, ISU-152, T-55 and more standing outside. TKS and more smaller things inside. They have workshop and a lot of trucks waiting for renovation behind the fence at closed part. Once I saw there an armored car made on Willys frame, but they were preparing it to export. You can check other places too like museum of the Polish army in Warsaw or armored weapons museum in Poznań.
I was there too ,i have multiple photos from this panzer
Just imagine this in War Thunder
It cant kill you and you probably cant kill it, but it will definetely annoy the crap out of you
Terrifying 😱😱😱
Yeah capping the points and it's just there and you can't do shit about it.
Terror of milk trucks
Kinda like fighting a milk truck with a KV2... not sure why I would be in such a situation though
@@vladimir-uz3dq got bored sitting in spawn so you decided to go out to see what's going on and out of the bushes, enters the KV-2
I had this tank in world of tanks and yeah lol it was annoying I couldn’t kill anyone and only artillery, heavy tanks, and tank destroyers with well placed shots could damage me
As breakthrough tanks they were designed from the outset to engage infantry and deployed artillery forces rather than other tanks.
In their use against partisans they did exactly that, and as you say performed admirably.
It was rather when deployed in operations against enemy armour and heavy anti-tank fortifications that they failed, as expected as they weren't designed for such work.
Question : Considering it have 80mm armor as it stated almost same like the kv2 did it failed Cause of lack protection againt enemy fire or because it cannot shoot back cause of lack anti tank cannon ?
@@uthopia27 mostly the latter probably. Soviet tanks could just ignore them and then shoot them in the rear where the armour is a lot less substantial.
but what was the huge up armor good for then? only against AT guns? i mean sure the old armor was way too thin but 20mm wouldve been enough id think against infantry. seems just like lots of weight added that doesnt really improve performance a lot
@@Obelion_ 37mm was the standard AT gun at the time, and needed that armour to defeat.
Plus it'd probably also help against rifle grenades and shrapnel from mortar bombs, maybe even anti-tank rifles.
Remember that the original Pz.II was designed around the limitations of the Versaille treaty, and seriously underarmoured as a result.
This ultimate version corrected that, but at the cost of being seriously underpowered (the small size meant no bigger engine could be mounted).
@@Obelion_ 80mm was for blocking anti tank rifles, mines, 45mm cannons, artillery shells, and a variety of other weapons. It is in the game Gates of Hell, and it is very nice having a tank that infantry and light cannons have no chance of killing without getting close up with moltovs/satchel charges
VK stands for "Versuchskonstruktion" which means Prototype or literally "Trial - Construction"
I'm too lazy to check, but this makes a lot more sense !
That’s correct! I put the wrong word in without realising, sorry about that!
Research my friend
Sry experimental construction but any ways we got to samepoint
Cool
ConeaOfArc:" Baby tiger."
Comment section:" aaawwwww buci buci
Who is a gooood baby."
Allied Tankers : "Ahhhh!!!, Tiger!!!"
@@arya31ful Allied guners: " Wait it's a baby tiger."
German guner:"BRRRRRRRRRR"
@@arya31ful *Repeatedly smashes it with 5 75mm guns*
@@Predator20357 More like 10 because 'murica.
Allied tankers : "Phew, it's just a baby... GOOD LORD, THEY'RE BREEDING!"
@@arya31ful 10? Dude I was referring to the average American size which is 5, 10 is for British and more is Soviet.
Sadly though, the Tigers had a long breeding process and many of the young ones starved to death even when born 😢
The intro is kind of a banger
I like it, all but the "all designed to kill" bit seems a bit silly and redundant
@@gaiamission7200 I guess, but he's technically correct
2:08 isn't a Leichtraktor prototype, it's a Spanish Verdeja Mk1 tank prototype. Also it's a good contender for a future episode.
Based on the Vickers E/T-26?
I noticed that too. It's definitely a photo from the post-Spanish Civil War.
@@teslashark No, he's talking about the tank on the left
@@tiagobarassi6758 Shocking how these people didn’t see 50% of the fucking photo innit?
Seriously though, this could have been quite effective. Most contemporary tanks couldn't do crap against it, and vice versa, but it had machine guns and could theoretically have been a moving bunker, providing cover for infantry.
Living in Belgrade, all of the children climb on those tanks (even me when I was younger), as they are outside in the open. Its funny to now find out that its a really rare tank. Kudos
Learning the history of various tanks is oddly satisfying! I love it, things that could've completely changed the tides of ear but didn't. Makes for a lot of story ideas!
I'm always listening to the audio books of like German tank commanders and soldiers of Germany, from WWII. There really interesting. Try listening to them sometime.
@@NS-gy3jr it's german translates to English. With the narrator retaining a german accent. Sorry it took so long to reply lol
The crews of these things loved them for their resistance to landmines. And they were effective as infantry support vehicles against enemy infantry, especially enemy troops that was dug in and supported by their own light tanks (assigning obsolescent, less capable vehicle designs, past their prime in frontline usefulness, to infantry-heavy formations, was common practice in the Red Army during the war. Waste not, want not.). This is why they were so good at anti-partisan duties. Certainly better in some aspects than the early war vehicles policing units were usually saddled with.
I don't think that this vehicle was "cursed" by any definition of the word. It, like the excellent Luchs, fell victim to adapting priorities to the slowly deteriorating war situation. The Reich needed more fighting vehicles that could combat enemy armor, carry artillery pieces, and defend against attack aircraft (the last especially important in Western Europe). With limited resources, niche AFVs, even useful ones, got the axe. Which is a shame, since the "Baby Tiger" is an interesting and cool little beast.
I've been in Kubinka tank museum, but never actually noticed this tank. Cool! One more reason to visit museum again!
Hello from Belgrade. This little tank was so Tiger-like that Partisans were reporting that they were attacked by Tigers (never served in Serbia) and even after the war, there is a list of captured tanks including - a Tiger?! Yes, it was the one from your video.
I visited those few tanks on display in Belgrade few times and I did not know what the hell was that thing when I was young. Then I researched it like a year ago and though "man, it would be cool if someone made a video about this thing" and here you are. XD
Bdw there is this cursed attempt to produce modernized T-34-85 on display there too called A1, if anyone is interested in such things I suggest checking it out.
If you want to see late war and cold war tanks, come to Poland to Warsaw to fort "Czerniaków". Outside exibition is free, however inside exibition is paid, but it's cheap. You can see there an IS-3, IS-2, ISU-152, T-55 and more standing outside. TKS and more smaller things inside. They have workshop and a lot of trucks waiting for renovation behind the fence at closed part. Once I saw there an armored car made on Willys frame, but they were preparing it to export. You can check other places too like museum of the Polish army in Warsaw or armored weapons museum in Poznań.
That would make a perfect personal tank to have.
"Five periscopes with nearly 360 field of view", not a single one pointed backward.
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@@vereenigdeoostindischecomp9932 And this is only the tip of the iceberg.
@@enderjed2523 owh no.
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I like the idea that you talk about little known tanks and projects, it is something really interesting
Just wait till the pz1F is added to warthunder as a premium event vehicle
It won't be, as its only armament is double MG34. Panzer II J however, that could do.
Thank you so much for producing this long needed video on this, in my humble opinion, unrated, outstanding early breakthrough infantry tank.
This has long been my absolute favorite tank conceived and manufactured during the Second World War.
In hindsight of course, it was dead-end as far as utilizing the Panzer 1 as a viable combat design, but if they had worked on up-gunning the Ausf. F and replaced the two MG34’s with a 2cm auto-cannon (...or twin auto-cannons) if a turret modification(s) were possible given the existing turret ring, it would’ve seen more success.
Nobody can argue the Ausf. F was deadly little beast that, given the fact they produced only 30, performed good service statistically, but was swallowed up by the slaughter that was the Eastern Front Offensive.
Thanks again for making my day for highlighting this tank. You don’t know how many tank publications seem to go out of there way to ignore this tank when talking about the Panzer 1 and the details of it’s development and operational life.
Cursed indeed and I'm surprised I have never heard about this machine. Good find ConeofArc!!
i love seeing these things zooming in world of tanks
The Panzer II Ausf. J really is just the Panzer I Ausf. F's bigger, more heavily armed brother, isn't it?
Simple corrections: Breakthrough tank, mentioned since 1935 which bear fruits, most notably the Tiger I. Pz I main models, twin MG 13 and not MG 34.
The original Pz. Is used MG18s. This design may very well have used MG34s as it was both a newer design built from scratch and MG18s weren’t made anymore.
Starting to think you like the same cursed tanks as I do, and it gives me joy.
Keep up the good work!!!
"mine resistant", "kv1 frontal armor", "cheap and tiny", "only 2 crew needed".
This sounds like an amazing tank to fight infantry.
Imagine the horror on a soldiers face when they see a 50mm at gun round bounce off a panzer 1.
The Germans actually worked on a prototype that was armed with a 50mm cannon and had sloped Armour sort of a baby panther based on this tank.
Wow, I didn’t even know there was an F version. Thanks for making and sharing this 👍
min 2:10 that's the Spanish prototype Verdeja tank on the left not the Leichttraktor(you can see on the right a T-26), the shape is similar
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Can you please do a follow up video on the Pz. II J?
Yes, Pz II J is my fav tank (at the moment). I just built a model of it for a diorama during Russian campaign. I thought Pz. II J was baby tiger... I guess both of these were.
@@nessie9709 nope he mentioned it invideo
@@nessie9709 yes. I believe 12 Panzer IIJs were sent to the Eastern Front with the 12th Panzer Division. They eventually went the same route as the Panzer 1Fs and used for partisan duty. One thing the vid didn't emphasize is that all that extra armor nelegated there speed so that hurt their recon role.
@@panzer948 I think the Pz II J is called the "luchs" (lynx)
@@henryrodgers7386 Luchs is Pz. II L my friend. It was the last evolution, had similiar suspension but less armor than Ausf. J
Honestly I think they should have built more of these in lieu of armored cars for the reasons you specified. Perhaps retrofitted earlier Panzer I's. They would have taken the pressure off of Mainline tanks for tasks they weren't designed for.
earlier panzer Is had the wrong suspension type. it would likely cost less to just make new tanks.
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I remember watching this at release but only now am I amazed that even a few models of this tank still exist. That is akin to a miracle considering everything and the lack of other more prevalent tanks. Seriously, I want to travel just to see these tanks now.
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Yay an episode for the broken babytiger on tier 3
Very interesting, it seems like they had a similar intended role to something like the British Valentine.
6:48 a candid wehrmacht "don't ask, don't tell" moment.
The concept of compact heavy tanks sounds so interesting to me
Wait what? Panzer 1 f is in Belgrade, bro I'm from there, but I never saw it there lol. Well I'm going on holiday there in 2-3 days so I'll be on the lookout for it
It’s been 3 days, did you go there? How was it?
How was it?
The Russian designers must've rolled on the ground laughing, since they considered firepower per ton a critical metric in the later stages of the war. Their heavy tanks always were lighter and using bigger guns than their closest German counterparts. The idea of up-armouring a basically tankette to 19 tons without improving its firepower must've appeared truly strange to them... I mean, it was.
Such a surprising amount of armor on such a small vehicle.
The first tank that comes to mind when i think WWII german tanks, is the Panzer II
Yet another great video Cone, keep the good work up!
Could you investigate Luftwaffe's airborne tank designs? As I remember they developed Panzer I with added AT-capabilities in form of K-bullets (or possibly with 13mm or 15mm mg can't remember) to land them inside gliders.
That museum is in the same state as me! It is really awesome!
How did I miss this I was in Belgrade I looked at every tank ... oh well gotta go back some day ...
The Tiger 1: im now dad
Baby tiger panzer 1: you are my dad?
The Tiger 1: yes
Normies: My favorite Germany tank is the Tiger/Panther/whatever
Me, an intellectual: Me and the boys rolling out in the Gross Tractor
(Yes, I know it's spelled Großtraktor)
me, a super intellectual: the bedbug
Germany should have just used a Toyota Corolla those things don’t die
From what I know, the designation "VK" is not Vollketten-Kraftfahrzeug, meaning fully tracked vehicle, but instead "Versuchskonstruktion" meaning Test Construction, or rather Test Vehicle in this regard. So the VK 18.01 designation would be Test Vehicle and the 18.01 is the planned weight of the vehicle, not the weight for the final vehicle. Sometimes there would be an additional letter in parentheses indicating the manufacturer : H=Hentschel, P=Porsche, DB=Daimler-Benz, M=MAN.
that's right.. VK stands for "Versuchskonstruktion" and not "Vollketten-Kraftfahrzeug". Where do people get this?
@@soldatnr444 I think its a common misconception and probably the first results that pops up in searches.
You’re correct on that, I put in the wrong word and didn’t realise it before submitting the script to him. That one’s on me, sorry about that!
@@lordcaptainteapot6143 No worries ! Stuff happens :)
There’s a surprising nice model kit of this tank in the common 1/35 scale from Eastern Europe under the brand “Alan” as well as possibly others since the moulds get traded around. It is a tiny vehicle.
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I am sorry,but this is probably going to be a list of complaints.
At 2:08,that's not a Pz I. That's the Verdeja No. 1.
At 4:10, that's a Pz III D,not a Pz III E. Just look at the suspension.
You mentioned at 5:13 that 'VK' is standing for 'Volketten',which means fully tracked, or tracked only(in comparison to 'halbkette', half-track). Although Volketten does mean fully tracked, 'VK' either stand for Volkettenkraftfahrzeug(fully tracked vehicle) or Versuchskraftwagen(experimental vehicle).
At 5:23 "designated as the Pzkpfw I n.A. verstaerkt". Yes, verstaerkt(or Verstärkt,to be exact) means reinforced,but the 'n.A.' is the more important part here. "n.A." stands for 'neuer Art', new build. This vehicle is only a Pz I in designation,and in firepower,although the Pz I used a pair of MG13s instead of the MG34T. If anything,it shares some overall layout features with the VK 30.01(H).(and therefore with the Tiger I as well.) This is where the side hatches are coming from.The overlapping suspension is used to give better weight distribution on the track,therefore better flotation on the ground. Saying it's used to give better ground pressure is... I feel it's oversimplifying. (Maybe better weight distribution would be the right expression.)Also this suspension and running wheels are not saving on any rubber. If you look at the photos on the Belgrade specimen,it's obvious that what is missing from each roadwheel is the Continental rubber rim,while the one in Kubinka still have it.
About the periscopes at 5:49. Those are fixed in position,they are at best going to give you around 180 degrees of vision,if we include their blind zones facing forward.(Unless of course somebody inside starts turning the turret.)
At 6:00 ,the Maybach Hl 45 engine was a gasoline(otherwise known as petrol or 'Benzin') engine,not a Diesel. The Maybach firm didn't produce a single Diesel engine for tank use during the 30s and 40s. And one of the main reasons why the German tanks(excl. Pz 35 and 38(t)) had petrol engines was because that was the Wehrmacht's requirement,therefore Maybach only developed their tank engines for petrol fuel.
For more details,look for Panzer Tracts 01-02. , from page 1-160 to page 1-170.
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PS: I am looking forward to see the Pz I video.
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Small correction tho. You are right in the fact that VK doesnt stand for Vollketten, but its neither "Volkettenkraftfahrzeug(fully tracked vehicle) or Versuchskraftwagen(experimental vehicle)" but "Versuchskonstruktion" which means trial construction.
very interesting finding .... many thought that Tiger1 had a revolutionary design with no similar previous designs in the back but this video shows that many features was actually designed and tested before
when I saw driver scope protection on this tank I said ... well this must be borrowed from Tiger1 but it revealed that tiger1 was borrowing from this lol
Ugh it hurts to look at but I love it so much
That's what my girlfriend said last night.
Cool video! Keep up the good work Cone!
This is professional level production
Yay! My Favorite Tank!! Thanks!
ITS JUST A LARGER L3 33 CC OMG I LOVE IT
Imagine what chaos this smol kitty could have wreaked in WW1.
Design wise it's reminiscent of something you'd see a police department riot/swat team using today. For wartime usage it was practically worthless in it's intended role but as a specialized police vehicle I imagine it would have been popular
This was one of my favorite german tanks. Its so small and cute and i juts love it
02:08 Glorious Verdeja Tank spotted
8:10 you had the perfect opportunity to say it was a paper Tiger
No mention that the original PZ I was designed primarily as a training vehicle ? It was pressed into combat service because it was available.
i wonder how successful it would have been if it had an externally mounted recoilless rifle/s. like a ww2 tiger-ontos. i know german ww2 recoiless rifles had their issues but it is still an interesting thought experiment.
2:08 spanish tank verdeja I during trials agaisnt a T-26, the verdeja was bastly superior, the turret was based in the Pz I housing a 45mm and x2 MG-13 coaxial with 65º degree of elevation
Love that little thing, just imagine it with the luchs turret , it would look awesome ! engine should much more power though
This is one of my favourite tasks on world of tanks,just a fun tank on the game
I have personally visited the surviving example in Belgrade. My first impression was that the thing looked cartoonishly thick for how small it was.
That 'Tiger Cub' derives from the same set of requirements that resulted in the Mk.I Matilda, the Americans also toyed with a similar concept, heavy armor, but only a single (fixed) machine gun as the main armament. At least the British and German iterations used rotating turrets.
Love to see some history on the similarly equipped Panzer IIJ? I think they made even less of those. I wonder if Pz IIJ had more armor than Pz 1F?
I can see why it would be a handy tank in certain situations. Nice video!
Yes finally I found a video talking about a tank that can be the baby of the tiger
a much better intro. Bravo. I hope my remarks about the previous one have made a contribution for the change.
The true Baby Tigor
imagine if they made chunky versions of the Panzer 3 and 4
Wouldn't that just be a Brummbär for the Pz. IV? The Tiger had a chonker called the Sturmtiger.
The brummbar is a bit close to what i imagined i guess
I actually built 2 model-kits of these with a vk.36.01(h) and they look pretty good together
Good for you.
The Panzer 1 could have been a worthy opponent to the Japanese Type 95.
I did read somewhere that the "VK" in German tanks stood for "Versuchskonstruktion" = "Training/Experimental Model"
That’s not just Cursed by Design, that’s just cursed.
Verdeja spotted at @2:08 alongside a T-26 at it's right. Would put more details but, being UA-cam as it is, i'll omit them.
5:12 VK is short for Versuchskonstruktion, literally translated meaning attempt construction, but it basicly can be translated to prototype.
thanks for correcting his big mistake
why so much people think VK stand for "Vollketten"?
VK = Versuchskonstruktion
Nothing else, and most player in WoT & WT aren`t right
This is like the fly of the tank world: really hard to kill, but the worst it can do is annoy you
- Hans, get your tank and drive over that minefield. - Ja vohl herr Oberstu.... Wait, what?!
Tiger I: “Don’t talk to me or my son ever again”
That thing would be great in rush hour traffic
Great video! I learned something!
Wasn't the Pz II - J another evolution in the same manner with similarly thick frontal armour... Before the tiger 1?
Oh I love playing this tank in World of tanks. 👍🥰 I actually went underwater came out behind and destroyed three tanks with it. Beeeautiful!!!
The first Rule of Tiger Cub is nobody talks about Tiger Cub.
Basically the same concept as the British Matilda I tank - a heavily armoured, mobile machine gun emplacement for supporting the infantry.