The Best Places To be When SHTF: Strategic Relocation
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- Опубліковано 2 січ 2019
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where is the best place to live if shtf? where is the best Bug out location? Where is the best place to put a homestead? where is the best place to put an off-grid home? Where is the best place to be self-reliant? Where is the best place to evacuate to? W
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My grandparents raised nine kids in rural Wisconsin during the Great Depression. In those years, my Grandma kept almost an acre in kitchen garden. She would often say that, if she didn't have 800 quarts of vegetables canned by the time the first snow flew, she wasn't going to make it through the Winter. Something to think about.
800 quarts? Whoa, that is definitely something to think about.
A wonderful situation.
Live in the mauston area. A good place to be right now.
What?? No more Buffalo?? When tf did that happen??
Yrs later we face truth.of.micro.nova..aint no way😢😂❤
Took my young children to the Interior of Alaska and made sure they learned fire starting from scratch, hunting, fishing & living off land. We lived in the bush, had generator, propane lights plus candles & oil lamps. Learned wood range cooking & survival knowledge. Preserving foods etc.
Good to be taking care of children
I moved to a remote Northern Boreal forest within the National Forest that has everything, far away from cities. Wilderness living is work, but it makes you fit and educated. I use wild foods to suppliment diet. We are the few who can survive when shtf.
you lived in the bush with a generator? amazing
@@starduster6687 what part of the state your in is land a low price
had generator, propane lights plus candles & oil lamps
Ima go back in the woods, next to a small stream, set up a still, start cookin liquor, hunt, fish, drink, and trade my spirits for what I need. That's my plan.
Tom Sawyer, Huck Finn Style..
Same but I’ll grow weed and mushrooms and trade those for what I need.
@@XGaming1 There will come a time when getting of your face will not be a priority. Grow up. Grow food.
Heath Savage weed is a medicine, that’s why I grow it.
@@XGaming1 weed is the only “drug” that is acceptable in a time like this imo. I agree it would be a necessity at times during this.
Just remember, after SHTF you won’t own anything, even if you owned it before. Ownership implies law and order.
You only own what your willing to fight for. Thats true now even though.
Robert Bogan Not really. We have laws, police, courts. Stuff like that to enforce society’s rules. Take all that away and the rules are just the same as on one of those David Attenborough nature programmes
@@Tailspin80 those are the very tools youll have to fight with to not lose everything. Example being any small car crashs that dont injure or cuase signifigant car damage you still have to pay a fine failure to pay and the "law" escalates the situtation. Its all a threat.
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@@Tailspin80 Your post didn’t age so well my friend. 💜😁 just a few months after and that went all out the window. I’m so happy we’re back to normal somewhat though...
Build your house small less is more trust me . Easy to heat and cool. Build with stone or brick for protection. Have a full basement for storage. Basements that are built well are dry and have a mild temp year round. You don't need 80 acres of land you can have animals, area for feed and food crops on less then 3 acres if done right but 6 to 8 is ideal. Try too get land next to large government protected forest so you can also hunt and bug out if you have to leave your house. This will also give you some place to hide cashes of prep's off your land. Do not over spend be smart. Keep your house one level think old age. good luck
You cannot keep enough grazing animals to sustain from on 3 acres AND plant crops. 10-15 acres? Yes. But I have three acres cleared that are for grazing animals that would only provide temporary sustainment. I would need a couple more acres of grazing area if I wanted to sustain from animals and at least 2-3 acres of crops to sustain long-term. The rest would be used as a buffer zone and hunting land.
@@phtevenmolz5030 How many animals do you have? The bread of goat and cow play into how much grazing they need to be healthy.
@@thomasneedham1340 I have 5. But let's say you want cows - you want 2-3 acres for larger cattle, although 1 acre of EXTREMELY good pasture will do for a smaller heifer. Realistically, look at 2 acres per head. And if you want goats, look at 5-6 per good acre of pasture to graze. We also have horses, which require an acre of their own.
But if you're here, you're probably looking at homesteading or prepping. So for you, you'd also have to consider winter and breeding for sustainment. It will take around 15-20 goats to sustain a family with meat if that's the only livestock you raise. And you'd want at least one bull with 2-3 heifers for cattle sustainment. And that's if you live in a region like mine, where your grass grows year-round. If not, you'll need extra pasture space that's dedicated solely to growing hay for you to bale and feed in the winter months. You'll need roughly double the land whatever you keep for them to graze in order to provide year-round forage and deal with slight population increases as you breed for slaughter.
And then you would have to factor food plot size afterwards. You can (and likely should) hunt/trap to supplement your meat, but it's not always guaranteed you'll be successful and you'll still have to manage your own local population of game so predators don't overpopulate and run off other species. And killing only the game that is matured, etc.
@@phtevenmolz5030, LOL, talk to a rancher!!! I asked one with over 1000 acres how much land is needed per cow if it was to survive solely by grazing....5 acres per cow!
@@JoeMicalizziMPC it depends on the size of your cattle, the quality of forage, and the climate. When I lived in west Texas and southern Arizona, 5 acres would definitely be a necessity. I live in the South now and 5 acres could feed 2, maybe 3 of you you have quality pastures. Are these pastures riddled with mesquite bushes, or are they full of thick fescue? Also, do you live somewhere that a rancher has to bale hay for winter? Do you live near someone with massive longhorns that can be up to 2,500lbs or near someone that raises jersey cattle? You feed by weight, so it makes a huge difference. If you're looking for survival and homesteading in a SHTF scenario, Holsteins would be the best bet for a mix of good dairy and beef.
In my area, I could use 1-1.5 acres per head of large livestock. In the North or barren parts out west, you may need 5+ to feed out for the year without buying hay. I still buy hay by the round bail because pastures grow slowly during the winter and in droughts.
CA is the last place I'd want to be in a SHTF situation. It's turning into 'MadMax' down there. People will turn on each other like crazy.
This fits with your profile pic absurdly well
@@RedWyvernRising LOL!!!!!!!! :D
Yeah but they’ll be a lot of weed there.
The Flip keep people stupid ignorant and happy.
JDM what are you talking about? Weed keeps you healthy, relaxed and happy.
If you don't live somewhere year-round you will not be considered a local and in a SHTF situation the locals may not allow you access to your home.
Jane Wagman Yes, that already happened this spring... people weren’t even allowed to access their own cabins! It shows how very unstable the fabric of society is. It didn’t take much, did it?!?
This may apply to many expats around the world. Locals eat first.
@@vecnagreyhawk78 many expats would be up for a rude awakening if they think they can get to their second homes. The locals may not be as nice. Part of why I would stay in the US and within my own bio region
@The Truth Warrior If your bug out location is not your primary home your drivers lic would not show you as a local. If no one local can vouch for uou either you wouldn't get in either.
I would say Ireland... Ireland is so beautiful you can be halfway to heaven, before the devil even knows you're dead
To small. Nz is better
@@samsmith4597 could that not work to its advantage? People tend to overlook it
Awesome video man. Got my homestead in the woods in the middle of the forrest of Sweden. No millitary targets near by. Not to far to the nearest town. Got my own water. It's a great place. Have an amazing week, Andreas from Off Grid Sweden 🇸🇪
sounds great.......all the best from upstate NY
What's the address
I love all my Abu's and Swedish Army Blankets. Long Live Sweden.
@@russelder9743 also from NY. Be safe and take care from Bleecker Mountain in the Adirondacks.
@Kerry Holt Detsamma!
Life is one big risk. In the end we all will perish. Enjoy life the best you can. Keep you're head on a swivel.
For life is quite absurd
And death's the final word
You must always face the curtain with a bow
Forget about your sin
Give the audience a grin
Enjoy it, it's your last chance anyhow
!
Monty Python - >> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life"
Give me a break. You and unprepared people like you will be the first to want resources from those who have prepared.
@@RealNewsChannel If I wanted to hear from an asshole, I wotld have farted. Go insult people elsewhere. You do not earn any points by insulting people you do not even know because they post a joke, except in your chickpea brains because you forgot to take your medicine this morning. Fuck-off troll of shit.
@@RealNewsChannel sorry to break it to you I'm very well prepared. Because I'm prepared,I focus on enjoying my life. Fact is we all shall die. Also, I like how you made an assumption about me,because of a paragraph I wrote.you don't know me. Just as I do not know you. Have a good day👍
@@MrMrjones333 Exactly friend. Stay prepared, however, enjoy life, because you just have one (my way of thinking just like you).
Do not waste it on spreading gratuitous insult on UA-cam's comments like this asshole does. Have a nice day to all and take care.
I live in the southern tip of West Virginia(20 mins from KY, and VA borders), in the heart of the Appalachian Mountains. My home is actually up on the side of a mountain, where I can see what's going on below me. This makes it much easier to defend, not to mention the enormous amount of firewood, and hunting opportunities. There's a mountain spring, and a small creek nearby, also. I think I'll stay put... My community would be more likely to band together in a SHTF situation, than most other communities. But, just incase... I have plenty of options for defending my home. I love where I live. I built my own personal shooting range, that I enjoy at least 2-3 days a week. I own my own land to hunt on, and I really have no distractions from traffic, or next door neighbors. It's beautiful, and peaceful here. Especially during the fall foliage, or when it's snowing. Our small community will more than likely help one another through hard times, but I wouldn't want to be a stranger trying to take something from us. It would not end well! Never mistake "kindness" for "weakness". Words to live by...
You just described my perfect vision of what my husband and I are planning. As in, we are maybe two years out, from what you just described. If anything happens to him, will you marry me? LMAO, just kidding. ;-)
you sir are truly living the dream! I can not wait to escape the city!
That's amazing. I am wondering tho if city dwellers will start showing up uninvited to such locations, maybe in droves as they escape the city
@@s.m.3608 They will not be welcomed, so I doubt it. Fast selling, so soon after buying, doesn't help finances much.
I live and was born in West Virginia. Your home is the ideal place to live. Take care
When s*** hits the fan ain't nobody buying a house or land LOL it's every man for himself
Yeah lol this guy kept talking about buying land and stuff. I think the idea of a SHTF situation is that you wont need to. He didnt think this through very well
@@wills1110 But he's talking about PREPPING for the SHTF, not what to do during the actual SHTF.
@@paraguaymike5159 very well
LOL. YOU AINT LYING.
There is no perfect place. BUT if you can't GROW your food and have water, you are gone!
@Mike You wouldn't last long. They would probably be diseased. Like eating out of a toilet. You might survive for a while, but not long.
They should eliminate nuclear power plants, take the contamination to Yucca mountain and bury it.
But we won't have to worry, the younger generations are going to FIX everything! No cars, no planes, no cows to fart! Why worry about what you are going to eat, they will probably euthanize anyone over 50.
@Mike HAHAHAHA!!!
You must have or know how to eat for 1 season to grow any thing before its ready you must know what likes to grow there . I grow up in a forest but my street wise is is way beyond most . in the forest the law is kill or be killed use that on the street you will be fine. learn the wepons you need a wepon is only as good as the distance it should be used at Example face to face a knife is prob best if you are the attaker lol to ward off knife attak airosol deoderant lighter shoots a 2m flame no knife can get close and is not deemed a wepon the best way to defend is to attak all ways ok hope i helped
I kill on sight canibals rule 1
In canada ok dude near a fast river or a water fall if a slow river thats free power bro . It just takes the know how . To turn on a light bulb in the wild feels nice bro . My tip a old car alternater would give you all you need fridge the works bro enjoy
bottom line is, you're going to need a community of common minded people...doing it lone wolf would be a death sentence for most
correct you are
You are correct. ..make alliances now. ..a tribe has a better chance survival than an individual
Permaculture designed food forest is the best practice. Takes about 5 years that improves any bug out location.
@@lr8868 going to try to get my friend involved.
I am the lone wolf so to say . With the know how i would share but find it hard to explaine why you must do this and that . As i do see the end result of the wisdom i just shared . You do not and only see work for you . So why would you take my words as the best for you and yours so meny others shouting out orders who do not have a clue .why would i waist my time i ask my self this . Just let them die i did not kill them being fools did
if you plan to prep with either mason jars or canned goods keep in mind that both will be vulnerable to freezing. glass jars will shatter and cans will burst from the ice expanding them from the inside. usually at the seams.
Just live in a van down by the river and you'll be fine.
I am motivated now Chris.
@@boydguie8129 well la di frickin da. Just grab the world by the horns and lasso it in or you will be "living in a van, down by the river".
@@boydguie8129 Living it!
You made my day, Farley out
Dead battery, hope you didn't plan to drive anywhere
My wife and I did what you’re setting out to do five years ago here in the Alberta foothills. Mixed grasslands and forest. High winds, but low tornado risk. Six to seven months growing in a greenhouse. Five in open beds. Plenty of hunting, trapping, and fishing. Generally excellent well water. Unlimited firewood. Low population density, but awesome people. “Head to the hills!” P.S. Two thumbs up for the bug out roll.
Northumberland county ontario
Foothills of Rocky Mountains transitional zone same for the US
Did you know Jesus Christ is returning soon? Did that factor into your prepping?
I think you already nailed the main points: secondary road access, 30-45 minutes/miles from town- next you need to assess the land/terrain with the 5D layered approach- 1st D: detection of threats. 2nd D: deterrent to threats. 3rd D: defense from threats. 4th D: denial of assets when/if defense fails. 5th D: displacement when/if defense fails. I do consulting on these kinds of homestead security issues- would love to share more- maybe I’ll do a video on the 5 D’s of bugging in! LOL!
Benjamin Chung 🤣🤣🤣
The best place to ride the Last Days out is where you feel comfortable and secure!! Not only physically,but Spiritual and Mentally also!!
Mister McGoo what about emotionally
@@AlejandroP1980s Has to be someone going full on soyboy snowflake.
jason theron snowflake won’t be your concern on and during shtf my concern will be psychopaths
John Mcclane yeah bullying is a big problem especially from mutants and raiders
I mean yes but no. Where I am best is where there is resources for me to use.
I've given this a lot of thought, and my personal nature gave me the right answer, when shit hits the fan, everyone will be running away from the cities, they'll be ghost towns....if you want to do the right thing do the exact opposite of everyone else....go be a rooftop gardener in the city!... The woods and country side is going to be full up of people looking for land and to get away from everyone else...there won't be no hunting, no fishing, etc...every spot will have a sniper protecting the resource.
My thoughts exactly...my top floor condo will be my safe haven. If I can get a solar panel hooked up and a rain catcher Im good for months if not years. Plus I am in a location where access to wilderness is across the street and major warehouses to raid about 20 mins away by car....best of both worlds...good thinking!
@@danieldixon4568 all resources will have people protecting them... better consider your plans again....might catch a bullet trying to get food
Best to stay home, everything to hand & as you say most people will flee
My niece once said that if things fell apart, she'd go to the mountains, build a cabin and live off the land. I had to point out that people already own those lands, and have been making their own plans for those that would try and flee in that direction and do that, for just as long as city folks have thought about fleeing to the mountains, and living off the land when things fell apart.
Oh so true we live off grid far away from folks every now and then we will get someone thinking they can tromp through your land. SMH
@@suestephensen7320 It is weird, on you tube there's many videos on folks tromping around like that on other folks land, with out asking, digging, hunting arrowheads, wild ginseng, metal detecting for lost items, hunting,collecting firewood Christmas trees, mistletoe, fruit, or game, exploring all through old "abandoned" houses and sheds, old mines or mills, or digging through rusted out piles of junk for old bottles, fishing a nice private pond, camping and all that, and just as many videos on the folks that actually own the land having to keep running them off. And the "visitors" always seem to think it's a joke of some kind to be caught or yelled at and just to record it to show you are some kind of crazy person for even confronting them on something they consider to be so minor. Or by blocked from doing it by a new gate they can brag about driving around. Around here, only kids had no concept of land ownership, and adults always somehow knew better and to respect another persons land. Yet now adults have the same mindset as the kids did back then. If they can reach it, it's theirs.
@@sarahd3980 And if shtf, it becomes their main survival mechanism. "I need it now, so I'll just go out and take it. because you must share it with me, since I never planned for this stuff. while I was shopping and you did"
Possumn the mechanic sez; this is a clear example of using Guilt trip #1, "If I can present my problem to you, and then make it your problem to fix instead, i can then go back, sit down and get a coffee while I wait for you to fix my problem for me at no cost to me."
Others include," If i see some way that you can improve your self, then you are automatically obligated to do so. if you wish to or not". And "when a crowd is being chased by a bunch of lions, the fastest must always slow down so the slower ones in the crowd can then pass them."
I live in the Arctic and I have to tell you - everything you said about living in the cold is correct. Unless you're of Inuit descent you will not stand a chance living there, because of the remoteness, lack of services and supplies, communications, and the simple *COST* of everything, plus the fact that for most of the Arctic, everything comes by air - which will shut down first in a SHTF situation.
Make the best where you at compensate and adapt and make necessary adjustments as needed.
My sentiment is “where you are now is where you know best.” I have no clue how to proctect myself against a hurricane. So why go somewhere and have to learn wholly new skills sets when I can build on the ones I have here. and plan for what I lack?
great advice. just going out and driving around after a shtf does not make any sense. Unless your in the inner city, your probably better off staying where you are. Take inventory of your present situation, make a priority list, improve whats needed. Watch lots of videos.
My plans exactly
I agree with Marquis. Adapt improvise overcome. Depends on your skills u have. The more you know the less you carry. Knowledge is powerful.
@Richard Mulkey your ignorance is my motivation thanks
Sounds like you would like Appalachian region of the US. Kentucky or Tennessee most likely. Winters get down to about 0 but are usually between that and freezing. Summers are usually between 80 and 95 or so. Growing season is good. Plenty of game and fresh water, plenty of natural resources etc. We have 1100 acres with a log house built on it that has a boiler system that heats everything very well. We have an underground swimming pool (water storage) that is 20'x40'x8'. 20 head of horses, a fully stocked pond, a diesel generator that can power the entire property, 2500 gallons of fuel, guns & ammo of course. But to be honest we aren't preppers. We just believe that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. We had an Ice Storm a decade ago or so that put us without power for 9 days. The only thing that changed about out lifestyle was that we had alot more company. We still had decorative lights on coming up our driveway and the most common comment I heard was that people thought we were being arrogant leaving them on. My mother wanted them on because she said she thought they looked hopeful lol.
Ur the type that lives it already. Whats ur address??? :-)
1100 acres????????
@@BoswelliaLuna8 it’s pretty common to own 2000 plus acres in the southeast.
I like how you go through different scenerios instead of just giving your opinion. It makes me think of things i have not considered about certain types of places. You provide very great information
USA watched your video: Decided to Buy Greenland.
ACTUALLY, Greenland will only be for the 1% "fat cats" who can afford to bury bunkers in the glaciers. They'll leave the mainland USA to the 99% of us - TO WITHER & DIE.
Only reserved for the elites for the One world order.
This...uhm...'Greenland' is a movie?
In reality Greenland Will NOT be a good place to relocate. - If you don't know how to survive in a cold, arctic harsh environment.
Appalachia is definitely the best place when you add in all the factors you described: remote (but still within a reasonable distance of civilization), price (land is ridiculously cheap), temperate climate, and culture (the population is almost completely conservative).
Just food for thought (coming from a liberal Californian).
I live on the border of NC, SC, TN so I'm good😁 I guess GA as well🤔
And i love their accent. :)
Those people in the south tend to run off outsiders js
I moved to the southern U.S. for those same reasons. Looked at some of the Northern areas (MI), just too cold most of the year. West is too dry, near the coast is too many people.
@@chevymanar95 My husband and I are planning to go to West Virginia. I want woods and fields, with a spring, on the high ground and I don't GAF what the house is like. I'd like to at least have a barn though. Appalachia is perfect, IMHO. Good luck, best wishes and please be safe.
I have a home in Galicia with all the materials I need to live for years, including a stream of fresh water and enough space to grow my own food. I researched all of this before buying. My house is also not visible from the one road, and is on high ground, so I can see who is coming.
One of the main reasons why I chose the Ecuador coast for a semi off grid community was because there are no hurricane's near the equator. Food is abundant all year around, temperature and climate are stable.
When you already live in a recommended area. Gotta love it!!
Small Tropical Island, mountains are 90% of the place, endless water sources despite heat season. No harmful bugs or venomous animals but no hunting either.
All european goods available as for now.
Hope nothing ever happens but pretty sure I'm set for most things except volcanoes, nuclear ans human nature lol.
Be safe y'all ! 🙏
A pet store is where I’m going , there is meds that people can use & yes I know this is going to sound gross but there is pet food that’s safe for humans to eat , this is just a last resort kinda thing , but my first place I’m going is my uncles house he & my dad found a 6 story deep bunker in a house he bought back in the 70s . He had it inspected in the 80s to see how stable it would be & to see if it could be updated . The guy that came to inspected it told him that not only is it cool to find this kind of stuff but this thing was build to last well over 500 years & it looked to be radiation proof by the way it was built . So when I was small I remember him remodeling it & updating it over a summer that I spent with him.
Purina had a recall
Just curious, after 2020 & pandemic, do u feel the same? Pet stores had to limit certain meds because ppl were stocking up and using "pet" meds for the illness.
I think preppers will be at most risk from other preppers. When S does HTF, it will be each one for themselves..all this camaraderie..brotherhood..community crap will sublimate.
Preppers know how, what and where other preppers have their stash/bug-out.
Lone Wolf!!!
But preppers have their own.
All the more reason to keep to your self!!! Loose lips sink ships - is the old saying!!
preppers are usually well intended type people though. the ones who didn't prep are the ones that are the risk.
The jerks who think they'll just steal from others will get a big surprise. Probably sooner rather than later.
So basically there’s nowhere to go LOL
No, its a question of trade-off. Every location (even a desert) has advantages, but disadvantages too.
This video was a big waste of time lmao
Detroit? As it can only get better even when the _SHTF…_
I live near Detroit.....SHTF already hit there!
Iv'e lived in the suburbs & now I'm in the city. I'm whitey too...I would never move & own a home in the burbs...more freedom down here than you could imagine...Iv'e been stolen from more by bankers, revenue generating punk cops, corrupt evil courts, & city officials (In the Burbs) than I care to detail...none of my neighbors..(the few that are around the city is so sparsely populated) are 911 friendly. Crazy shouting matches with insane girlfriends don't result in my door getting kicked in by po po. I don't have the "grass police" measuring my lawn to write me tickets for grass over 8"inches. Property Taxes are low if you pay them on time. Crash of 2008 let two homes go back to the bank( Mortgage=Till death contract in French) Bought a 4000sq ft castle yes a castle for $8,000 cash. Plaster walls, high ceilings, hardwood throughout built in 1927....4 levels including the bsmt.. Brick so thick will stop small arms fire....My next stop will be off-grid & a remote location. Everything in between is useless to me...I feel sorry for all those struggling to pay mortgages & bills on one of those cheaply built Mc-mansions & getting harassed by the city or one of those nazi-esk(Homeowners Associations)like I see being done to some of my friends. Yea the neighborhood is far from perfect. If I had children I would home school them. I would not send them to the (Government slave training & Indoctrination centers) called public schools. Detroit's a wreck yes...I haven' had a problem though. Were all under attack from more weaponized systems than I care to type...Were all enslaved(free range slaves) though many still think they are free. I have a level of freedom that many couldn't conceptualize. How doe's that saying go??? "Detroit...where the weak are killed & eaten"...LOL yea in a SHTF everywhere will be a nightmare though!
Seriously, that's the first place I thought of! Things would go really bad and you wouldn't even notice the difference.
not the water.
David Devron yes Michigan it’s self is great if you’ve got out of Detroit you’re be fine
Here's something to consider about living in a forest: Idiots and evil people will burn down every square inch of forest on the continent in a grid down SHTF scenario. Everybody will be hungry, cold, and dirty. Many will go to the forests and start living around camp fires. They'll cook over them, heat water for bathing, and keep warm around them. BUT, the majority of the population has no experience doing so. They have no clue about fire safety and soon forest fires will rage out of control with no fire-fighting entities left to fight them. Other people will set forests on fire just because they can. There will be no law enforcement or criminal justice system to find or judge them. They'd love the power of being able to do that. Or they might be retaliating against a rival camp, who knows? I love forests and I could live in them, but not while they're on fire.
How depressing!!!!
I know, right! But I live in a town in a forest and all the fires that happen are either caused by lightning or by idiots who shouldn't be allowed to touch anything flammable or sharp. Most of the time they're tourists who have no clue about fire safety or their kids who don't give a crap and think it's funny to shoot off bottle rockets into the middle of a dry forest. I think in a shtf you could multiply this by about 1000.
You're so right. An idiot who tossed a cigarette butt from a moving car set our woods on fire. Had my kids not seen it smoking in the early morning hours when the dew was still on the ground and ran back to the house to tell me to call the fire dept., by the time the sun was high and the dew dried, the woods would have been engulfed. Fools who smoke think cig butts are harmless. At least cigarettes will eventually run out.
How do you think wildfires stopped before humans took an interest in controlling them? Rivers, lakes, marshlands, canyons and rock walls are natural firebreaks, and once wind turns against it, a fire will stop when it has no new ground to burn. Various man-made things like highways, gravel pits, golf courses, etc would also stop fires from advancing. Sure, there would be many more fires in populated regions if society collapsed, but geography and weather would put them out eventually.
@P One thing you're overlooking is that in the past 50-70 years or so, forest fires have been actively extinguished. Even natural fires caused by lightning. The result is forests that have grown far beyond what nature would have allowed. Forests full of dead plant matter creating a huge abundance of fuel, and too many trees that are too close together. Before humans took an interest in controlling them, fires were far more frequent. But there wasn't a lot of fuel to burn since previous fires had already burned the surplus. The fires were "cooler", staying mostly on the forest floor, burning the thin layer of ground cover. The tree's thick bark has evolved to "shed" bits that catch on fire before the flames can reach the needles. This trait does little good with a really hot fire whose flames are high because of too much ground fuel. There are even some types of trees whose pine cones have evolved to open when triggered by heat from the flames of the old type of "cool" fire from the olden days. But they don't work when the flames completely burn them. I know the fires would be stopped here and there by roads, rivers, golf courses, airports, etc, but I guarantee the summers would see hundreds in not thousands of fires burning all across the continent with little to stop them.
Our ancestors were strong/smart enough to live in many of these out of the way places with out the amenities we have today.
They also didn't have liberal, millennial snowflake soyboys. Most of today's world would die immediately due to the huge amount of pussies living on this mudball.
and thats where the problem lies , we as society have become too reliant on every convienince to a point that when someone says ''live of grid ''the reaction is ''you have no skills you're gonna die ''
You are right about half plains/forest with a near water source to maximize your survival. Having 4 seasons like us in Quebec or mostly in Canada, also get ways less natural disasters because of the natural cycles. We already have to adapt to all types of weather too. This also forces you to allow your field to regenerate itself for ressources. We need to balance good reserve for winter. Having a small community will be good to trade essentiels items. Good job with your vids. You seems like a very realistic down to earth person. Knowledge is the key!
Plains VS airplanes
I moved my family from Cleveland Ohio the big city to a small county in Kentucky with 400 people . My place is surrounded by a national Forest.
Nice bro!! Way to step it up!! Plan on moving me and my family to Alaska... not taking any chances in the mainland of the U.S
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Not sure if you know but in the desert you can drill a well. Also there is a lot of rain during the monsoon season. So rainwater collection is very feasible. I have been living off grid in the desert for a while I did just buy 40 acres and will buy another 40 acres soon right smack dab in the middle of the desert. Great place to be, everyone thinks it’s uninhabitable. They would be mistaken :)
Montana. Mountains, hills, hunting, fishing, natural water ways and lakes, edible and medicinal plants just about everywhere; I retired here for these very reasons.
For me, the place to go to is back to Texas. Of course, being in Ontario, I know this will not be real simple in a shtf scenario. My wife knows this, my family knows this. We have land there, weapons, I know many people, I know the weather, the wildlife, the plant life, etc. I lived in the sticks before coming up here, so it's no great concern to go back to it. For my wife, and kid, it'll take adjustment. They don't have the experience. I lived outside a small town, do it was already a fairly close-knit community. I never saw this as a bad thing. When things go bad, we help each other, we stick together, we protect each other. Alot of people like to think they'll be lone wolfing their way through the world, but my experience is we have better odds in groups. We are, after all, a tribal species.
I could've written your story as my own. Texas, yes. You will be welcomed back home. No parades, probably.
Small communities with people of varied skills helping each other. Our ancients figured that system out thousands of years ago. The lone wolf with their bugout bag wandering around will be early departures from the scene.
Nate, youre still one of the few channels I enjoy watching on a consistent basis. Continual intelligent, down to Earth points and conversation
Land ownership will mean nothing in a grid down scenario.
Here is some advice. LEARN WILD EDIBLE PLANTS!
Land ownership will mean everything if you're in a small community. Everyone knows what belongs to who and we won't tolerate rude squatters. Polite, helpful ones may be allowed to stay, but aggressive ppl will be moved on or put to pasture in the back 40.
@@oneperson5760 you do that.
@@mattanz7020 here some advice, Most people live in cities. we don't have edible plants.
@@whyask8044 Try looking up popular weeds like Dandilions ect.
The places I'm looking into resemble Canadian wilderness. Biggest regard for me is moving water, a river or creek, for hydroelectric power. If you have power post collapse you will be a lot better off, especially if you can power a small hydroponic system that functions through the winter.
Clearly, a bunch of us should get together and invest in a "bugout" island :D
How did the indians survive. I really admire them more and more when it comes to all this prepping going on. What kinds of things did they do to survive?
rely on the elders knowledge.....they didn't disrespect them or put them in a home, told stories, shamans, BUFFALO follow for every need, chips for fire...i wish i was an indian again in one of my past lives
Look up "Edible Forest Gardens"
One Person Yeah, like the Europeans never did that.
I never said Euros never did that. Of course they did. Every people did. I was poking at the idealism of the OP. They implied all they did was wise and peaceful. That's a kind of racism, too, albeit a mild one, to pretend you know all of a kind of people were/are a certain way. Some were peaceful. Some weren't. They are and were a mixed group of people as we are today. When times were tough and they had to 'survive', I'm sure they did some shady things, just like any of us would. Let's not romanticize a group of people as if they're only fairy tales. They're real people with real virtues and real failings, just like us. No offense to you, Margaret Rose, but please know no group of people are/were universally angelic.
One Person Okay, now I understand what you were trying to say. But I still don't feel what you said was necessary. The OP never said the natives were perfect beings or whatever. She only admired their lifestyle. Their culture wasn't perfect, but the fact is that the Natives in general lived in close harmony with Nature and the Earth. In that aspect, their culture is admirable and worthy of retrospection.
As a fellow Canadian, it would be cool to band together to secure some property and form a community. The maritimes seems to be the most affordable.
I live in the Maritimes on a piece of property much like CP is describing. I have 55 acres and am living a very simple, off-grid lifestyle with a kilowatt of solar panels and a small windmill. Unfortunately, I am doing this by myself, as a single woman, and am definitely beginning to feel overwhelmed. I started building the project from scratch when I was 46 and had noticeably more energy than I do now, 12 years later. Finding like-minded community has been my biggest struggle.
@@holistic9605 I admire you immensely. There is no better feeling than knowing you can do it by yourself no matter what challenges and difficulties you may face. You are wise to live this off-grid lifestyle. You have many more skills than the city dwellers who rely on the grid for everything. Bravo!
@@holistic9605 quebec here
Also Canadian...i have been buying everything in Bulk..Will can meat with vegetables..i buy big bags of Rice...Sugar..macaroni..any canned fish or chicken can do a good meal ..we Will get bicycles...as we dont know what To expect ..i want to make sure we have all we need..médication.. so keep doing this..it gives me an idea of how bad this Will be..thank you!!!
Barb Morris yeah group needs a leader who listens not make their own decisions but also groups talk each other like family if not the group will be gone
I'm bugging in with my family because I'm ill and need meds and O2. I have prepped bags and food and water for a period of time. We won't live forever anyway and I wouldn't want to live in post SHTF too long either.
I say the same. God, dont keep me around long.
We just started watching walking dead, when they get to the prison, and settled for the first night, I felt their despair and sadness. That's not living. Same when they first got to the CDC and heard the words "hot water". How much we take for granted.
God, please help us all.
I’m only prepping for scenarios that I wouldn’t mind surviving in. For everything else the only prep I need is a handgun lol.
Can you work on getting off any of your meds or find out what herbs can do the same thing as prescriptions? Also, an oxygen concentrator would make your own O2 but you need power.
Hula Shack, since I replied, which was a year ago I have had a lung transplant and a hip replacement. I am no longer on O2, but I do need to take a sh-boat load of pills for infection and rejection. I'm walking a lot to get and stay in shape in case I need to bug out and hike.
Not sure if someone already mentioned this. But one thing I always think of is finding a south facing slope to build on (for those in the norther hemisphere). Orientate your house to create passive solar heat in the winter and shade in the summer.
Like an Earth ship home?
Instead of a large acreage (ties up a lot of money, and if shtf, no one's going to enforce your property rights), look for smaller/cheaper plots that border provincial/national parks, and/or large tracts of Crown Land (Canadian concept - huge majorities of land 'up north' are tied up under government ownership, and can only be used for logging, mining, hunting etc). This way, you're getting access to the same type of land without having to own it. (and yes, they pop up on real estate websites semi-regularly).
Yes and if it is a rather isolated place you can have a good portion of the national park all for you basically, far more land than you can ever buy
I found a place that has a dozen lakes in the area, 6,000+ foot snow capped mountains next to green valleys for growing food, rivers and streams at the base and open high deserts to the east of the mountains. During grid up it's an outdoor dreamland with a great city with tourist amenities. (Restaurants, movies, stage shows, casinos, shopping malls, hospitals, university etc)
If times get tough it has a good amount of resources to go around as not to cause mass hyteria and the population density is very low. Plus the local population is already a hearty CCW type bunch who are used to country life for the most part. The hoards of city folk in the neighboring state most likely wont have the strength or resources to make the trip through the 6,000 foot mountain passes without encountering the gun nuts who already live in the mountain passes. So we have a built in buffer of mountains and people with guns up there lol.
No earthquakes, no tsunamis, no floods, no drought, no tornados. Forrest fires are a risk of course and it snows in the winter so it's not without risks.
It's not perfect but it's got alot of things going for it.
Nice, can I come? I'll bring lots of guns and ammo :D
hells canny baby!
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Sounds like my home state of Arizona, above the rim. Neighbor?
I’m heading into the city. There is Uber to get around. We can order food from Door Dash. A Starbucks on every corner. Lots of entertainment and festivals. It will be like nothing happened in San Francisco. Because the Government will take care of us. LMAO 😂 Everyone is invited cuz it’s a Sanctuary City.
Think Eskimo..
Canadian prepper, based on what you've described you need to be a Georgian prepper. I'm feeling pretty good about my location here in Georgia and ready to adapt and overcome any obstacles.
I bought Joel Skousen's book back in 2015. It is an excellent reference in categorizing from best to worst places to escape to or build in.
"Strategic Relocation" gives you statistical facts on corrupt state & police governing, taxes, population, property crime rates, violent crime rates, population demographics, weather & growing food stats, gun carrying laws, employment rates, and bugout locations greater then 5 miles from a main highway & Interstate roadways.
I moved from Arizona to SE Idaho, where we only have 2 roads in & out of town, near rivers & a huge lake Idaho shares with NE Utah. Hunting, fishing, growing veggies & fruits, inexpensive land & housing, low population, and plenty of nearby caves & rock overhangs.
I am originally from Florida, and I am convincing my children to get out of there. It's become terrifying in Florida & the diseased illegals, mass drug trafficking, high violent crime rate, etc., makes Florida NOT a good choice. I hope everyone gets Joel Skousen's book.....it is an excellent source of info & includes Canada, Mexico and European countries.
Thanks Canadian Prepper, for providing this insightful video!
God bless you in all your future endeavors!
Idaho and Utah were the ONLY best states to,be in when the SHTF. We are number 1.
All great points!! ... I'm staying in my county, my current home is too close to a Freeway, so we are planning to go further up in the mountains when SHTF ... friends have a nice hunk of land up there... We chose to stay in this area because we are familiar with the pro's and cons here.. the small community we live in have contingency plans and we are well tolerated by them...lol ... We have made sure we possess needed skills and tools ... ofcourse there's always MORE to learn and acquire ahead of time... :)
.... We've been following you for quite some time and really enjoy your intelligent conversation, I share your videos, and recommend you as reference often!! ............ Thank-you!!
Having a well instead of being on city water is a big plus. We are on a large well and have a few outlying springs close by, as well as a creek with almost constant water flow.
Can a well go bad?
@@teller1290 - He did say he had other sources of water.
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Yes
In your home where its safe. There is a reason people used to build castles.
Blue Ridge, Georgia would be my spot for sure!
Boat on the Mississippi River. You've got a thousand miles of fresh water, fish, hydroelectric power, hunting on the banks and it's wide enough in places to get away from someone trying to attack. You could also go out the mouth and go anywhere.
You also have every river that flows into old man river.
My home town is on the Upper Mississippi many good and resourceful people.
Better have some water purification pulls. MI River is nasty
The best one is the farm/small village where u grow up. You now the people and the land to make a community and work together.
Exactly, unless you were the butthole everyone hated and was glad to see leave. Making friends with your neighbors is worth its weight in gold. Not just 'friends', but actually help each other out in some tangible, meaningful way. Community loyalty is valuable.
not all of us have a home to go back too.
im an outsider anywhere I go. so make due
most people are 6 to 7 generations removed from the farm
Exactly how I have been thinking about things . Close enough to take advantage of what the city has to offer as needed. But far enough out to shut it down and go into defend and survive in off grid stealth mode. And have resources available like water and hunting and food production .
One of the best soundtracks on your channel, man. Congratulations for the fine art of doing these videos
Pacific NorthWest (British Columbia, lower eastern Alberta, Washington State, eastern Oregon) would be best when SHTF. It has Wilderness & high forest, mountains, rivers, fresh water 💦 , hunting and mild weather.
I think Chelyan WV USA might fit your criteria. 25ish miles from Charleston WV (Capitol City of WV). Population of under 1000, riverside, off of an interstate (I64), low cost of living, surrounded by predominantly coniferous forests, all 4 seasons strongly present, reasonably priced land. I grew up in the Charleston WV area and it might be worth researching further.
What an excellent, insightful, informative, and objective video, free of fear-mongering.
Excellent presentation. Thoughtful, factually accurate (from Montana), and well explained. Passing this on to friends. Thank you.... Appreciate your research.
The Newberg Oregon/Dundee area is very heavily supplied in farmland... As a prepper in Oregon, I moved to Newberg for opportunities to have cheap land and a large garden. I also have a few farmer friends who are well prepped and will allow me to use their year-round garden when SHTF
Coastal North Carolina for me. We have the ocean, with seafood, nearby farmland, plenty of fresh water streams, and a large wildlife preserve nearby.
I live in utah in a small town that has many educators and professionals and I think it would generally be a good place because many hunt and use wood anyway but it would still be hard to get enough water.
Ogden, slc, Provo goes insane?
about the grasslands, you can hide i straw bales, they are teh most abundant things in the rural midwest. also digging underground is common as well. the first settlers in the midwest dug their houses out. the only way you can defend a grassland is to dig trenches, and have control of a city or hill.
Yeah! Good video! Things are certainly getting poignant with regards to the “feeling” that something big is coming. I live in Newfoundland ,( Canada, for those of you who don’t know), and it’s pretty much the best place I want to be for SHTF. No nuclear, military, tornadoes, or population density. Lots of wildlife and fish , and a whole bunch of really remote places that are close to the city.
If you’re used to the cold , and you are , then maybe this would be a step in the right direction? Land is cheap! Also, I am a huge fan and it would be awesome to have you as a neighbour ! 😎also there are plenty of lakes and small islands, and no raccoon, grizzly , raven , and snakes - well, apparently the snakes just made here.... but yeah, safe! So growing veggies are in the top of the macro prepping list , but other than that and a little cold weather, it’s heavenly! Especially the locals- friendly bunch. Newfoundland was the first place to be settled in North America ( debatable) and people have figured out how to live off the land and sea for centuries.
I've thought of Newfoundland myself once I retire in another 10 years. I heard its pretty humid there though and it takes awhile for the locals to fully accept you. What part of Newfoundland would you recommend? Right now I'm seriously considering Lac Du Bonnet in Manitoba which is a stone throws away from the Whiteshell. Problem with that is, large acreage is hard to find and expensive plus there's a ton of cottages in the area. Kind of hard to avoid marauders if they're scavenging the cottages for food. Mind you, there are remoter places in the general area nobody goes unless they're familiar with the area. Tons of fishing and hunting in the area.
Arly , it is pretty humid here. True. But at least it’s a somewhat mild winter here on the Avalon. “there’s no such thing as bad weather, only bad clothing.”
The Avalon wilderness area ( and surrounding area) is quite vast with hundreds of ponds/lakes, animals ( none of which can kill you unless it’s a bull moose).
Not sure where you heard about the locals not being friendly . Sure, that’s what we are known for... it’s our hospitality!
If you got access to a freeze dryer when you get here, please hook me up 😂
Anyways, I’d love to help and be a part of the community. Don’t be afraid to ask. Sure come for a visit... I’ll be a great host .
Arly. We found land south of Lac Du Bonnet nearish to Hadashville. Its a 1/4 section, mostly forested, on a road where only a few people live but close to major routes. Land that size, in this area, should go for around $50,000 right now.
@@pellquietus2497 Realllyyyyyy?!!!! A quarter section is something like 150 acres isn't it? Far bigger then what I was looking for, i was thinking more the lines of between 25 and 50 acres, but holy crap the price is friggin right. Question, does it have hydro and internet access? An since I'm peppering you with questions any of these 1/4 sections empty onto any river/creek/lake?
@@StevieKoolRoots Thanks man, I'll keep you in mind :)
Your description of a very good place to inhabit after a SHTF scenario, is very similar to the one my husband and I have in mind: 80 to 100 defendable acres off the beaten path but conveniently close enough to what's left of civilization. It's a hard call, but your analysis was spot on. I hope we'll not have to face such a situation, but it's better to be prepared. Thank you, CP. :-D
To give you my 2 cents worth would be in central Manitoba. The reasons for this is that even during the dust bowl years the farmers were able to grow crops and made money from food sales. They have a decent grid and by in large neighbors help neighbors. Population density is not very high but community is strong. Hunting and fishing is also good. Take care.
u never mentioned an underground house & garage even if it is in death valley or arizona or any place else
Great video discussion. Thanks for sharing, keep up the good work!
Couldn’t pay me to go to California or New York. I turned down 2 jobs paying $300K + because of the taxes and people.
Yeah, $300k can feel more like $30k when burdened down with taxes, fees, and a$$holes.
Only in your dreams were you offered $300k jobs and people who do make that much are not at all affected by taxes. If you knew anything at all about how taxes actually work, you'd know that a single person making $30k/year pays $10k in taxes--thats 1/3rd of that persons very very low income.
A person making $300k doesnt pay 1/3 of their income for a number of reasons and even if they did, they still have $200k in untaxed income.
lastly, property taxes would be the biggest tax after income taxes. well--a House in my Brooklyn neighborhood start at $2 million dollars. in the shithole you live in, a house costs what, $60k on average. so dont you think its simple logic that a $2m house is taxed higher than a $60k house?
From all the options you mentioned, I would pick the first one. Canadian Boreal forest. Its isolated, theres much wood density, lots of games and fish, but the most important for me is the isolation. You got to vanish from everyone around for a while. At least till the majority of the human beeings pass to the afterlife and then you can move to the South for better climate...
So much useable info! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience.
I'm in Texas, very close to a lake on 2.5 acres 35 miles outside of a major metropolitan area. The only downsides are hot summers and occasional sketchy spring storms.
Bye Felicia I think Pacific North West (🇨🇦British Columbia 🇺🇸Washington State) would be better....has high mountains, wilderness, mild temperatures, resources. Texas is too hot
Radiation and water 🌊💦 bumber
Most certainly with year 'round water. Most of my searches on Zillow are really narrowed down by the water requirement.
Matt Wilcox But what else?
When I first retired I moved to the north eastern area of the Mojave Desert. I spent 3 years exploring the mountains and desert around around my home. I was on the largest aquifer in the state of arizona with about 400 other people. The water was as good as any high mountain stream I've ever tasted. I had a sand filter on my well; changed the filter once after two years. I had no other filters or purification on the well. Best water supply I've ever had. I found a spring that came out of the base of a mountain and ran for about 20 meters and soaked into a sandy wash. It flowed at about 30 gal a minute during a 0 rain year. The barrel cactus were all dying. It was remote but not terribly difficult to get to. I never saw another human within ten miles of the place. Had I stayed out out in the desert I would have a bug out shelter there. There was about an acre of sandy flat ground by the spring surrounded 50 meter rock walls and 2,000 to 3,000 meter cliffs. There was a 2 meter cut through the rock to enter. Big run off from the mountain was the the only danger I could think of. The plant life in the canyon showed no evidence of big water, and I doubt it ever got like the slot sandstone canyons of Utah.
The best thing the majority of people can do to prep for a SHTF moment is take the time now to learn all sorts of varied skills so if you are lucky enough to find a community of like minded people you might have enough valuable skills to be accepted into same. With reality of like, not everyone will manage a homestead of suitable land, alone, and survival will take more than 1 or a tiny few if you plan to survive long term. Learn people skills, sewing, cooking, foraging, hunting/skinning, weapons. and gather supplies as you can but do it. Then seek but have skills and resources to offer.
Easy chair, sunglasses, good drink, blanket, music, enjoy the nuclear sunset.
I know I'm a little late on commenting and you may have already purchased the property. But if you're looking for somewhere you've even featured it in this video as your backdrop. As a lifelong native of the Upper Peninsula of Michigan it is a good place to get away I would try to stay like you said within 30 minutes of a major city, Marquette Michigan the largest of the cities in the Upper Peninsula also Sue Saint Marie is close to Canada. It might be a good choice to start looking for some property there good luck to you and since you're from Canada you already know about the cold.
Here in Wisconsin is a pretty good spot goodngrow seasons good hunting fishing good wooded areas for seclusion and access to towns big and small
shh! Don't let the outsiders know! Make them think all we have are cows and beer!
Joe Britten Wisconsin and Wyoming are the best states to be at once the United States falls
Missouri Ozarks. Hunting, fishing, good ground for gardening. You get 4 seasonings here. Lots of water, rivers, creeks and streams. Beautiful area. Any kind of water sports you want. Hiking trails. I get tomato's before July every year. Something to think about
Your plan of 80 or so acres is nice, however, if/when SHTF it's logical that you will only own what you can defend. How many personnel would be required to defend that large of a plot of land? I'm not trying to be argumentative; I am curious about your thoughts on the number of people required to support a given area of land and to be able to efficiently support themselves.
Spider holes?
the idea is underground bunkers and escape tunnels with being able to set up poisonous plants as deterrent and chlorine gas to kill off anyone waling by... that and traps along with farming being able to have your own mushrooms and bees along with goats that eat anything or pigs that breed fast.., along with chickens. and a green house... barbed wire and traps dead falls motion censors and cameras... drones but the good news is you only need to last 8 years... till Jesus the Christ sets up his kingdom... it takes three people to form a unit and a strand of three is not easily broken
@@bhuggins76 ya wanna get married? LOL
80 acres build in the middle give a nice buffer and plenty of space to layer a defense.Distance is your best friend in a fight.It can be used to help hide you.It buys time ,time to react ,time to lay waste to your enemy who have pistols, 12 ga,ar15,AK47 because you have weapons dialed in to lay the hate down on them at longer ranges then they can return effective fire from.Thats is if they even try move forward after they first claymore or round from that338 lapua you have dialed in for those yardage markers you set .If this has rattled their cages and shattered their resolve .. You don’t have to defend all 80 acres like it like Ft Knox’s .Just start with a line of discouragements maybe a sign claiming this is a hazard waste disposal site .Throw in some some rusted barrels stacked up with haz com placards denoting corrosive and toxic contents a few sticking out haphazardly of the found a few ruptured.This should discourage the starving beaten people who are just poor souls from venturing into what they perceive as a place of bad things(which it is , just not for the reasons They think.).If they continue to advance.They either don’t buy it or are Marauders.Well then from there the nastiness will be getting worse.Use tear gas devices ,ankle breakers ,pungie pit, toxic tiped pneumatic darts.Funnel them into fields of Fire and death trails.Make going off trail impossible.Use remote pneumatic arming which prevents near by lighting strikes( that’s why electric arming is a bad idea) from burning up circuits or worse tripping them.Radio frequency arming can be accidentally tripped by a EM source .pneumatics can be easily set to up to arm traps ,tubing is easy to patch ,you can hand pump a tank of air if your compressor is down or no electricity is available .Now your dog won’t die if he chases a rabbit into the kill zone unless the are deliberately armed.Remember to make the death dealing devices thicker more diverse until at a certain point it.They are are sufficiently discouraged ,are all mauled or all buzzard food . 80 acres is peachy .
i agree 80 acres is a large plot for just a few people to monitor while trying to plan trips for supplies.
FEMA suggests old mines and caves. I would strongly suggest you find a cave around your area and live there. Natural underground bunkers without the price tag.
Don't trust FEMA , they are involved in the agenda 21 and their camps they just built for all of us
Isn't isolation the point lol
@@chriscarpenter5139 Pandemic situation is different. Talking more, war oriented or natural disaster. Why pay 50, 100k, 1 million dollars for a bunker when a salt mine/cave provides the same benefits without any costs? You know? FEMA is going to do their own thing, but if you get some info on your local area and find a well known cave, it's not a bad idea to head there in case of natural disaster (ex: Yellowstone erupting or nuclear attack).
Really..that's a good idea 💡 🤔
Would you still think it was a good idea after a Magnitude 9.5 earthquake?
I envision the island scenario- naturally I can’t afford my own island, so I’ve been throwing around ideas in tandem with your community theory and crowdfunding.
There are solutions for combating hurricanes. Also, with proper desalination methods, livestock and a wine distillery(yes, this is a necessity 😂), you could have better odds at survival than trying to compete over mainland resources. Not to mention- unlimited treasure hunting, snorkeling, fishing, etc. 🤘🏻
Fairview Utah is the safest and offers most of what you talked about needing. Joel also mentions it being one of the safest. I have some family there and hope to be as well. Thanks for all you wonderful videos!! Great information! I really do appreciate it!! God bless
I live in Louisiana but have been wanting to move to Utah for some time now but financially it isn't feasible. However I don't plan to bug out in the event of a SHTF scenario but if I have to, I have three locations to do so. If those locations become compromised or things just get that bad, Utah is definitely where I will be headed. Somewhere in the middle to combat the extreme heat and cold and having a longer grow season. Likely will be on BLM land's where likely few people will be and not patrolled by government and cops. It would have to be near a rocky location though thus to avoid thermal detection. Most people won't last long outside in our insanely humid/hot climate.
Rural farms require a lot of work every day, tie you down do to animals that need constant attention. Who is going to watch them when you want to go anywhere for a day or more. Isolated places are easy to pick off the inhabitants, wait for them to go out to take care of the animals and snipe them. Attackers will not wait for a convenient time to attack.If you are remote then help will not be coming. No internet? Stay in a community with friends and resources. Moving to a remote area where now you are the outsider, not raised with the locals who may be uneducated, and poor. How will you get work when the locals look out for their own first , I know , I tried it especially in times of stress like SHTF.
(1) When the mobs are stationary - get moving away from them into one of your many distributed hidey hole - bugouts. (2) When the mobs are moving - move strategically parallel around them, and in the opposite direction to another of your hidey holes. Decentralize your hidey holes and gear (no eggs and gear in 1 basket). Know your (1) direct or (2) indirect round-about distance/time between hidey holes. Construct your maps with all infrastructure knowledge of gas/fuel stations (small red dot on map), food supplies and local food gardens/orchards/fruit-nut trees (green dot), (clean) water sources (blue dot), ... and tiny push pin hole on map for your hideys (no big Xs) - be able to see when you hold up to sky or flashlight under map.
John Lord John where are U geographically ? SW USA, SE USA,NE OR NW USA? S. Central USA? In central California we have some obstacles that won’t generalize Becuz roads block off, shut down , trucking accidents weather season, gang interference , shootings, wandering homeless. My suburban area has limited access. So i will bug in. Running with a mob on highways in California Not useful. We do have farms and agricultural canals for water access. We have “choke points” to defense
@Clorox Bleach then you need to clean out your ears troll, and allow the possible brain cells to understand
Absolutely brilliant John Lord...
why not make markers 3 inches left or length of an item etc, depending on scale on a map should be few miles of, that way you know it no on else does in case .. just an idea : )
@@funnyside7180problem with that is if someone does get a hold of your map or unknown gets a glimpse, all it would take is for you to start a fire to keep warm, bathe or cook and during the day, smoke can be seen for miles. Depending on windage it could be smelled as well.
Try central B.C. ? I’m in southeastern BC and find it perfect for growing crops , hunting and fishing are plentiful and berries abundant 5 months a year and up to 80 varieties of mushrooms oh and Glacier fed rivers still flow freely so there’s food for thought
I personally live in a really mountainous region in northern California and we have lakes not even 15 minutes from us along with fresh mountain water springs, and we also have a massive deer population so its perfect for hunting. not only that but our population only consists of roughly 2 thousand people
I lived up in the mountains "Pionner California" and still wanted to get out of that place before stuffhtf. Lol!
around 40 miles north of Roanoke VA .
I work at a local food pantry, im set.
Funny - read that book 15 years ago, it’s one of the reasons I moved to South Dakota!
Look at what Shawn James has done on My Self Reliance.
Im in Kansas and something to cosider is water can be pretty scarce in grasslands especially if you don't know where to look.
I’m in Kansas as well, close to the Missouri border. I wish we lived closer to the Ozarks.
My friend you should seriously be looking at Cape Breton nova Scotia. rough winters but very doable.
Kentucky is a good spot in a shtf!! Pretty good weather, good grow season, tons of deer & turkeys, not heavily populated, food growing everywhere, water in abundance!
One thing I noticed is, Joel overlooked the threat of the Super Volcano.
What super volcano???