Josh Pate On College Football's Biggest WHAT-IF's In 2024 - Part 1 (Late Kick Cut)
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- College Football teams are in summer workouts with fall camp around the corner and all eyes on the upcoming 2024 season, and on Late Kick Live Ep 524 Josh Pate discussed the biggest what-ifs the sport has to answer this fall. What if Cam Ward is everything Miami hopes he can be at QB for Miami? What if Notre Dame winds up going undefeated in the regular season? How might Texas vs Texas A&M look by the time rivalry week gets here? Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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When I was a young man (I'm now middle-aged), Texas A&M was #6 in the country one year and were led by a linebacker named Dat Nguyen. Their offense didn't show up for the first three quarters against Texas and they fell behind 23-7. Then all of a sudden they stormed back and went ahead 24-23 late... only to have Texas mount a last-ditch drive and kick a field goal on the final play to secure a 26-24 upset win.
I look forward to the resumption of the rivalry.
You must be talking about the Ricky Williams game that sealed the Heisman 👀
@@cfbpicks After doing some research, you are correct. I didn't remember exactly when the game was, but it was easy enough to look up the rivalry on wikipedia and find that the 26-24 game was in 1998.
I mean, it’s fair for ND not to have a bye. Their bye was conference weekend lol. Idk how people get upset about this concept - it is really fair, they’re just choosing which “lump” to take
Notre Dame has a bye. It's just earlier. No conference championship game. ND would play the same amount of games as any conference champ
That's a great point that most people don't think about
@@greenwave819try again you’re definitely not an ND fan! Schedule ABSOLUTELY is not the toughest this year…..(47th in S.O.S) However, Penn State, Iowa, Tennessee, Kansas, Miami Hurricanes and Missouri ALL have a weaker 2024 S.O.S but nobody has 💩 to say about those teams! Do some research and then comment !
First What-If: "Forget about Miami winning anything. That's not really what What-Ifs are about. What if Miami wins? I mean if they win, they win."
Beautiful. This implies that What-ifs are more specific and are about speculating on fun, potential headlines.
Literally the next What-If: "What if Notre Dame goes undefeated"
LOL 😂
Not a criticism, just a really funny observation I noticed. You're the best CFB content creator/expert/whatever there is. Keep it up, and the "Year of our Lord" opening each stream does not go unnoticed. God Bless.
If ND goes undefeated and is a 5th seed i think most ND fans will be happy playing the first round in South Bend against the 12th seed. If I understand the playoff technicalities correctly.
ND plays army, navy, Stanford, Virginia, northern Illinois, Miami oh, Georgia tech and purdue. What kind of a schedule is that? They will probably lose to A&M, Florida State and Louisville
@@kevinak-d1xit is the weakest schedule I've seen ND have in years if ever... but they are absolutely a legit top 10 team. If you cant see that then you are blinded by your personal opinions on ND. I'm not even a ND Homer but no way in hell this team doesn't go undefeated or 1 loss at most. No one on that schedule is "better" than ND.
Still tougher than cheatigans from last year and they are the "champs".
@@kevinak-d1x A&M wasn't supposed to implode when we scheduled them for a home-&-home and we don't control which ACC teams we are given to play. Also, miami pulled out of the game this year. We were supposed to play them. not army. I bet you were still b*tching the previous years when we scheduled home-&-home's with Clemson and Ohio State for the same 2 years :)
@@PTdoubleOTNo, they don't talk about those years, when our Schedule was consistently Top 25 most difficult. They like to cherry pick their arguments.
Cam Ward is THAT GUY. Best qb in the acc and his oline is gonna make him look even better. Everyone is bought into him and he’s been a leader since day 1. Cristobal sees he’s an alpha and he’s one of the baddest mfs on the team (alongside Kiko)
He sure gave Shedur Sanders an a$$ chewing the other day…😂
The dude is definitely a DAWG.
The thing with Miami is that having a Qb last year with 14 more tds and 5 less ints. What would they be? Now they have him and a improved roster.
Miami ain’t shit and will get bullied game one, as for that soft ass acc schedule you may do ok. Getting embarrassed by Rutgers was an embarrassment for the whole state. 🤡
And they'll still have a mid season. It's miami would you expect less 😂😂
Hey Josh, how we feeling about Rutgers recruiting? 6 4 star recruits according to 247. Could Greg Schiano make a new beast in the Big 10?
@@greenwave819 actually they have double what Mississippi state has
@@belowaveragedudewithanopin2249 he's being sarcastic like most of them SEC troll fans. There are just more 4 stars in general in the southern states😅
@@bigwats1250 that’s what I was thinking. Rutgers getting the recruits they’re getting is actually huge for the program considering where they have been for the last few years. Their biggest problem was their inability to recruit in-state, now the culture seems to be changing
@belowaveragedudewithanopin2249 yea I just read a article that rutgers is actually doing well with NIL. But if everything goes right this fall our recruiting next spring is going to put this year's to bed. I always looked at rutgers as a sleeping giant
@@greenwave819 The trolling was not needed d bag
Saw Cam Ward in person last year when Cougs played Ducks in Autzen, and gotta tell ya he's a solid 'slinger who impressed me with some intriguing intangibles and a handful of nastily accurate big boy throws. Mario is kind of a stubborn meathead coach, but if Miami utilizes Cam's athleticism and unique arm talent, Cam could turn into a 2025 1st rounder. IMO
I'm ready for the season to start . It's like we're having the same conversations everyday
There are some great games in Week 1!
I can't wait!!
If Ryley Leonard and those receivers can gel with Mike Denbrocks offense, than ND will be a serious NC contender.
Probably but I still picking the field of Georgia Ohio state Oregon Texas Michigan to name a few to beat Notre Dame
That texas arkansas a couple years ago was awesome, and I'm glad they're playing more (they go to Ark Nov. 16). I have no knowledge of the old games except when I read about their "game of the century" in 1969, but that stuck with me.
I’m looking forward too it as well, I feel like Sark will have Texas motivated to whip Arkansas like they did to Kansas the following year Kansas beat us in 2021
@@cfbpicksdon’t worry. I’m a hog fan. We suck. Y’all will hang 50 on us easily.
Hey Josh if Notre Dame wins the natty, Do you think there will be people saying Freemen is better than Day and be viewed as a top 5 coach?
I do.
@@JoshPateCFB
Thanks for the response
Would you agree though?@@JoshPateCFB
Whoever wins the natty this year will be a top 5 coach. Outside of Kirby, Dabo, and Mack Brown, I don’t think there are any other active coaches with championships.
Cam Ward should absolutely be an All ACC type qb. It's a down year for qbs in the ACC. Really down.
True, yet still, Cam Ward has proven to be a high caliber QB
@@justwatchinthis1 I don't disagree. A little inconsistent and he does fumble too much though. He is a good pick up for Miami, no doubt.
ND's schedule is weak this year. That's not hater talk, it's just true. ND fans I know agree. They can sleep walk to 10-2. They should be favored to win every game.
It is a weakER schedule (47th S.O.S) this year. That said, I find it interesting that this narrative persists. Yet, I bet you have heard ZERO about Penn State, Iowa, Miami, Tennessee or Missouri…….ALL with a S.O.S “weaker” than ND’s! I’m not picking on you, however….your comment tells me one of two things…#1) you actually ARE the hater you claim NOT to be or #2) you are another dishonest “player” trying perpetuate a narrative and are too lazy to do any research to substantiate your claim.
@@BigMonty686 What? You think because I agree with ND having a weak schedule I'm a hater or some dishonest player? Dude, it's not that complicated. Their schedule IS weak. That does not mean other teams can't also have weak or even weaker schedules. Jeesh man, what a weird take.
Do you disagree with anything I said?
@@BigMonty686 Oh, and yes I know all those teams you mentioned also have weak schedules. The thing is, the conversation wasn't about them. It was about ND. We could list all the teams with easy schedules but it doesn't change the fact that ND has an easy schedule.
The Longhorns v Aggies game has been on my radar since the announcement of Texas and OU were coming to the SEC
Texas v Texas A&M needs to go back to Thanksgiving evening every year. Egg Bowl in the afternoon, Texas v A&M at night.
My son and I both went to A&M. He was there when there was no A&M and tu (tu = that junior college in Austin) rivalry. I was shocked that his generation didn't have the intensity that I had when I was there. You literally weren't allowed to eat pineapple upside down cake until your team had beaten tu. Never clear why that was but I followed the rules. I am so dang happy that it's coming back. A new generation of Aggies can feel the hatred (in a college rivalry way, not any any real way) that I grew up in. It was really fun back in the day.
A&M's biggest rival in the B12 was Texas Tech
Damn so you haven't been able to eat pineapple upside down cake for over a decade?
@@JuanGomez-rp7of nah, we won my freshman year, all good. I'm just glad we can play again. I missed that rivalry.
I got a question, If a player like Cam Ward gets drafted which university will get the credit? The one that gave him the shot, the one that elevated him to Power 5 status or the one that paid for the "finished" product?
The truth is probably both. Current Philadelphia Eagles QB Jalen Hurts creates conversation about the efforts he put in while playing for Oklahoma. He of course does the same thing and has thankful fans for his efforts while playing for Alabama his first few years before Tua became the Tide QB. Hope this helps…
RTR
@@skipgumphrey9579 thanks, i was just wondering about this as it could now regard my team^^
Go Cougs!
WHAT IF- Josh stopped about Mario, The U, Coral Gables? Would anyone even care about a program that’s been totally irrelevant for 20+ years?
Michigan was irrelevant for 25 years, stop hating?
Miami is permanently relevant. They are either back or on their way back. That’s what happens when you dominate for nearly two decades, win 5 ships and field the most talented team ever (01). Funny thing is, their admin didn’t even try to start winning in football until 22, when they finally dedicated resources to the program. They hired a top 5 recruiter in country who has back to back top 7 classes. What happens in Miami is very relevant to CFB at this time. It’s just a matter if they win or not. And to prove I’m not just biased. USC, Nebraska are other programs that fit this narrative as well. They are permanently relevant.
Do you hear this Notre Dame crying 😭😭 are you serious ☘️☘️ FREEMAN DIDN'T COME TO BE A CRASH DUMMY 🤡 LIKE BRIAN KELLY ERA AND HE STILL IS IN BIG GAMES AT LSU you need to add if LSU doesn't make it further than Notre Dame in 2024 why are you preaching about 10 wins a Kelly and THAT'S NOT THE JOB our sign says PLAY LIKE A CHAMPION TODAY 🏆☘️ NOT LIKE ROAD KILL WIN OR LOSE
Overhyped/Overrated Team List:
1) Miami - talked about as much as a top 15 team; results on the field of (5-7, 7-6) with a loss the GT in video game fashion. Nobody wants to hear anything about Miami until they produce on the field, and by produce I mean 10-2 or better with the amount of talk they get in hype/recruiting. The "new" Texas A&M.
2) USC - no Lincoln Riley never has or will have a defense, 5 losses for a team that gets top 10-15 media attention. Everyone saw the writing on the wall week 1 when they gave up 400 yards of offense to SDSU.
3) Notre Dame - Talked about as if they are a top 10 team who should be competing for national championships. Ranked inside the top 15 the past two years and has finished outside in both final CFP rankings with a notable loss to Marshall; of the past 15 years they have finished lower then pre-season ranking 10 of the 15 times. 2-5 Against AP top 10 opponents in the past 5 years. Again if you say they are properly rated, then how do you entertain this idea of ND going undefeated in the regular season?
4) Oregon - Lots of hype and pre-season rankings, talked about as if they are top 5 in the country --- for a team whose only notable win was at Ohio State a few years ago. Lanning can recruit, he can make hype videos, but can he live up to it? Ask DeBeor and Washington, where they were favored both times and lost. Nothing less then a big 10 championship, multiple playoffs wins should be expected. Again this team is ranked ABOVE Bama, Michigan, Penn State, and Ole Miss; anything less then those teams IS a failure.
Falling Off The List:
1) Texas A&M - with Jimbo gone, the crazy expectations and rankings have simmered. They fall back to the C/B tier program they once were with the hire of Elko
My best friend moved from Chicago where we grew up and lived most of our lives, down to Texas for his job.
He is only 45 minutes from Texas A&M...
We both grew uo huge Notre Dame fans, and we are going to the Notre Dame vs Texas A&M game!
Me, my brother, my friend and one of his buddies from Work (who is a Longhorns fan!) are all going to the game!
These are the most expensive tickets I have ever bought, but it will be worth it!
I have heard that Kyle is an amazing place to watch a game, and I think it will be a great game!
GO IRISH!☘️☘️☘️
I don't remember hearing enough energy about 2023 schedules for Georgia or Michigan and Georgia couldn't beat a mediocre Alabama that's not 🚫 an elite team and yes the ACC CONFERENCE went 6-4 vs the SEC CONFERENCE yet you still hear this obsession of weak teams in the ACC CONFERENCE like this doesn't matter to the reality ☘️
Don’t 👞☕️ stumble his way into 10 wins or more this year. Because if he does, Florida schools might as well stop recruiting any kid Mario really wants. 😂
Miami in the playoff lol... Van dyke was also a Heisman front runner before Mario lol
Yeah, Mario is an incredible recruiter but is not a great head coach. Nothing made that clearer to me than watching Justin Herbert’s first year in the NFL.
Please Notre Dame, at least advertise when you run a cupcake stand. N.I.U. (N.I.WHO?) ? ARMY ? NAVY ? U.S.C. ? STANFORD ? (All cold killers) I don't see Washington Irving h.s. this year so you dodged a bullet there
Hear me out on the naming rights for the Big 12.... "PATE STATE 12 Conference"
The cheapest available tickets to the tu at Texas A&M game are around $600...and that's for highest up seats available. Does anyone have context for how this compares to any other regular season game's minimum ticket price this far in advance of the game?
Thank you Josh for reminding everyone how great the Texas vs. Arkansas series is. As a Longhorn who was raised a Razorback, I was born the year Arkansas left and grew up on stories in the glory days in the immediate aftermath. Even though my team lost that year, it brought my great joy to see students who weren’t even alive the last time these two teams played in the same conference, pick up right where their parents left off in the series. I can’t wait for the series to come back!
Nd knows what they signed up for. Sick of people complaining when it should be us complaining and we aren’t.
Unfortunately, for Notre Dame, the truth is the truth regardless of how horrible a cream puff schedule they play.They're never going undefeated.
LOL always overrated, just makes me want to vomit they really just need to put that horrible program out of its misery
What are they always rated?
@@JoshPateCFB Oh man.Why is the first time you guys reply to me I'm just being a butt hole cause I don't like Notre Dame.I admit I'm busted.I was being a jerk.Please forgive me lol love the show!!
Hey josh when are u starting the boldest prediction for 2024?
Notre dame needs to participate in modern CFB and join a conference if they want to be taken seriously. They are a perennial asteriks to all non-ND fans, fair or not
Most years they have a tough schedule. This year not so much. If they are playing good games consistently why do you care if they're in a conference?
@@kevinbond8966 Great question! Conferences are only about money for schools and programs that can’t survive on their own. Why do people think revenue sharing exists within conferences? ND doesn’t NEED a conference. They don’t “need the money”. Fan or not most people aren’t even having the right conversations on the subject. If anything, what happened to FSU this year is all the argument ND needs to stay independent
Tvd had a bad year the year befor he left
I don’t believe Paul Finebaum saying Texas A&M wanted Texas in the SEC when Kentucky SC and Florida would not allow ACC rivals Louisville Clemson and Florida State in the conference
A&M openly fought to keep Texas from joining the SEC
I really really really want Ole Miss and ND to play 1st round. Obviously the grove would be the best party scene of the entire playoffs but then again I would love to go get a win at South Bend. Hotty Toddy!
30 degree weather or less, maybe snow in South Bend. Good luck
Go canes
Miami got bullied by Rutgers and they think a pac 12 qb that faced shit defense all year gonna save them? Lmfao
What do you actually know about that game? Their top2 qbs were out, they started a guy who literally did not take a single snap until that game. Their top two RBs missed the game (Fletcher got hurt immediately) their starting wr transferred. On Defense the best DT and starting Safeties all opted out. They had to move their cbs to safety which they hadn’t done all season. Rutgers had I believe 21 of their 22 reg season starters for that game. If you think it doesn’t make a different you’re wrong. Vegas had them as favorites, once it was discovered all those players were out, they went into the games as dogs. They were literally underdogs for the game and it was a close game. Everyone is quick to say Miami has been horrible for 20 years, then pretend like they lose with the talent they had from 01’. Straight goofy.
@tlobrill1 No excuses. Miami got physically mauled in the trenches. 🤡🧃🤡🧃
@@JohnnyBushwhacker-yv6bc you would know 63-3
This rule should have been added to the new playoff format: teams without conference affiliations are not eligible for the college playoff. Problem solved......
@@greenwave819be a better fan
Hahaha, why does it bother you so badly that ND is not in a conference?
@@kevinbond8966 It doesn't. It should bother ND fans and it's the easiest fix in football....
@@tacticalmattfoley Why on earth would being independent bother ND fans??? 🤣🤣
@@kevinbond8966 sitting at home on championship Saturday will always equate to a lower playoff seed if ND even makes the playoff at all. Without it, they'll never be higher than a 6 or 7 seed unless undefeated.
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What’s a successful season for ND? With the schedule, the expectation has to be to make the playoff. But what about beyond that? How far do they have to go for them to satisfy fans (if such a thing is even possible)?
Win at least one game in the playoff. I'd say that would be considered a successful season. But personally I think we can contend for the championship.
@@mbd501 I guess it also depends what seed we are. If we get the #5 seed and play the G5 autobid and then the #4 seed autobid, the expectation should be a semifinal appearance. If we host a playoff game, you're probably right, one win is the expectation. I'm also with you, though. If the team lives up to its potential, they can contend (not saying they'll win it all, but they should be competing)
@@dallasmorrow21 Yeah, the #12 will likely be a G5 team, and #4 will likely be the Big 12 champion. And the Big 12 doesn't have any elite programs anymore. Their champ might not even be a top 10 team, if they all beat up on each other.
@@mbd501 yeah so the 5 seed will actually be a good draw. I think after a few years they’re going to change the autobid rules. Imo the autobids should guarantee you a spot, but like in March Madness the committee should still get to seed you how they see fit
@@dallasmorrow21 Maybe, we'll see. Because the Big 12 champ, even though their conference is weaker, would've already played an extra game, so from that standpoint they'd still deserve a bye.
ND fan here: We won't go undefeated. A&M will beat the Irish in the opening game and I think it could be a stomping. They have WAY too much talent on defense and we're coming in with an OL that has lost some great players. On the other side of the ball, Weigman is back and healthy and he's supposedly some kind of phenom while ND is likely going to be starting a QB recovering from a major injury who I guess was a big deal in the ACC (who cares?). I suppose he could make a few throws but I suspect he'll spend most of his time on his back in the grass, underneath a massive DE, and looking out the earhole of his helmet.
A&M has a new coaching staff. So I doubt they'll be firing on all cylinders in Game 1. However, we might not be, either, with a new QB and new OC. Both defenses should be good. So it's a tough game to predict.
Both QBs coming back from bad injury. However, theirs played for Elko and Elko is a master defensive mind who obviously knows how to stop his QB. The question is did he fill the holes Aggies had on their secondary. Otherwise all ND has to do is throw 20+ yard passes
Miami doesn't have the O line to make QB play relevant.
You differently don’t know 💩 about Miami. The Oline will be better than last year oline. Which was good. The starters only gave up 8 sacks last year. And 4 should be credited to the QB for holding on the ball to long. Our Oline is one of our strengths.
Who tf is this guy???? Miami had the number 3 ranked oline in the country according to PFF.
@TALLBOI13 You need to stop reading stats and see an OL that got TVD killed, couldn’t move the pile on short yardage, and had a 7-6 record. Besides Miami lost BY FAR their 2 best OLs. 🤡🧃
@@JohnnyBushwhacker-yv6bc if you really understood football you would know that TVD got his self killed. His decision making and release of the ball but don’t worry the clock is ticking. We have a two way go. Florida not stopping us running not passing. It won’t even be close
Yeah Jack…,that wasn’t a well informed statement
Life Long Notre Dame fan that lives in Texas. Notre Dame's motto has always been Natty or Bust. Periodt. But this year is different. They are perfectly set-up to carve out their future. I think this year making the Play-offs is the goal. For once, the nay-sayers will be correct. This is the weakest schedule, I've seen in along time. But I don't wanna hear anything from Bama, OSU, and so on fans, considering their schools schedule div 2 oppenants every year and on purpose. Notre Dame when making this schedule didn't know some of these teams were going to be in decline. And other spots they have to fill in with what they can. I'd much rather have schedules like the early 90's with at least 8 ranked opponents. Anyway. The Schedule is weak. Texas A&M is the only game that scares me. Notre Dame has the better team. And I believe Mike Elko will have this program making strides in the next 3 years. If this game was anywhere else, or even later in the year, it wouldn't concern me. But it's at Night, Kyle Field, Crazy Rowdy Fans, and August HEAT. If Notre Dame can pull out the win, they will have to battle and put everything on the line. It will make this team grow so much. They win, and I think they they go undefeated. And like legit fill that away, not like a crazy delusional fan. But this is not a National Championship caliber team,. Not this year. They get the #5 spot, which puts them I belive the #12 team, win that and get the 4th best probably acc or big 12 winner. And I call that a win. If we can get to the second or third round in the play-offs, that's a Win. It means we finally won a legit bowl game, and I think it boosts recruiting through the roof. And that sets up our future. I know we should never settle or have a losers attitude, but I'm just being realistic, this isn't a Natty Caliber team. YET. The next 5 years, we will finally get that trophy back home.
Also Texas A&M vs Texas is a top 3 rivalry, it moves ahead of OU vs Texas. It's that big. I H8Te both teams, being raised in Lubbock, Texas. But I know and appreciate just how big that game is. And it won't matter what the records are. Texas A&M could be 4-8, and they could still beat Texas. These types of games are special, and I'm here for it. Go Irish.