Marcia Hafif - Conversation between the artist and Connie Butler, Chief Curator at the Hammer Museum

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Wonderful.

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actually I think she uses the term 'concrete' in exactly the same way as the swizz artists did.I don't understand why she is denying it. of course her style is different, but not the concept of concrete, as being 'real', as opposed to representational.