Sooooo excited for this episode!! I have the highest respect for Dr Ann Burgess. She is one of the most amazing women, so smart and humble. I’m excited to learn about and hear what Gregg has to contribute.
i watched the outstanding documentary about Dr Burgess-Mastermind: To Think Like a Killer-and found it so fascinating. Thx to the guests for their excellent insight.
16:46 Hello to Dr. Burgess. I am one of your Psych CNS students from years ago at Univ of Penn. and am still learning from you. 😊 You included a multifaceted assessment profile needed for this young man, including the family system, all of which will peel away the layers for all to begin understanding, to begin grieving , and to enable the world to go forward with new insight to develop much needed prevention interventions. My boys were quite young when I was going to Penn. In their teens and twenties, I was a Psych Nurse MOM on steroids, and duty 24/7, watching, listening and talking with them, and their friends, teachers, coaches, probably to excess. I just wanted them to stay and be healthy. In their 30s, now, and so blessed. All my prayers for the family, and everyone involved. Toni Ann Bereskie APRN, PMHCNS-BC, MSN, MBA
I really agree with this. Maybe I was under the wrong impression but I thought a major part of the Crumbley’s being prosecuted was the fact that Ethan was still a minor, not even 16-years-old yet. Also that they also purchased a gun but it was purchased with the idea that it was Ethan’s gun. I feel these are much different circumstances and don’t feel Thomas’s parents will be charged.
My husband & I were watching 20/20 last night & saw Ann Burgess. I said “I think she’s the one that I just saw on STS!”. Guess I was paying attention in class!😂
I live in Butler PA, altho I wasn't at the rally. Secret service is putting the blame on the local police, Butler Twp, even tho the secret service was in charge of everything, and over all other agencies. They want the blame laid at literally anyone else's feet.
I have been mentioning these violent video games for years now. As a grandparent of 6, it breaks my heart to see my 8 year old grandson playing Fortnite. EVIL and impressionable young minds are being tainted. Then his outbursts when he loses. Unacceptable!!
57:41 Host interrupts Dr Anne Burgess during one of her thoughts/musings/questions about the shooters weapon. Where and how did he obtain it and was it his? (Exceptionally valid points give the subject) Host: “By the way…. I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to interrupt but I’m wearing my luminol shirt today, that’s how you know I’ve gotten too deep into true crime. I walked around Chicago today with this shirt…” Missed an exceptional opportunity for genuine analysis to instead focus on a pointless silique about his attire relationship to true crime.
The father actually called local police well before the shooting to tell them his son and his AR-15 rifle were missing, and he was concerned and worried.
He was not bullied at school, he had friends as spoke to from the school counselor. This kid was set up, allowed to feel secure in what he was doing, or he wouldn't have been so bolden. That roof was less sloped than the others very walkable. Almost flat & should have been covered with counter snipers. This whole situation does not pass the smell test, but the government will never answer the questions.
Joel, He worked in s nursing home. I thought maybe the chatter about cuts to Medicaid and Medicare tipped him over the edge since cuts would certainly impact jobs and the services people receive.
Dr Ann Burgess, great new series, very well developed, seen the 1st 3 episodes, looking forward to more, checking out some of the literature too. My cousin who I grew up with has a Doctoral Degree in Psychology, and a Master in Kung Fu, way cool. Check out the series people, you won"t be disappointed. Mastermind: To Think Like a Killer on Hulu Thanks for all your work on women victims of violence Dr Ann B.
Question… Not sure if the public is allowed to know but if so how many secret service members is an x~president entitled to? Would they all be at the rally? Who would decided that? Were there enough there to provide the security some say was needed?
Are his 5 children still receiving Secret Service protection? If so, that is a lot of assets deployed to cover people who can wasily afford to hire their own personal protection.
Poor hygiene, opposite political view, odd or too little clothes, lonely, isolated and then gun practicing. Can’t avoid thinking quality of relationship with his parents.
He tried out for the zhigh school Rifle TEAM and was quickly rejected for being a horrible shooter, and a danger to anyone near him while he was shooting.
He called off work,and his parent may not have known,”the day of the shooting. Do you have the clip where the kids were pulling the legs of his sweat pants.
As to his choosing a former President, one of the main distributed pics of the killer shows him with a T-shirt depicting Mt. Rushmore. Indicative. As with Ann, I noticed the gender blurring. The pic of him crawling up the roof make him look more female than male, similar to a young man who became a sniper at a parade a couple years back. Two body language details: often smug expression (when not blank) - bad combo. After receiving HS diploma, walks off stage like an 60 yr old man. In any case, tho I am DEFINITELY not a fan of Trump, I feel that perimeter security was INEXCUSABLE (as Greg said) for someone in Trump’s position, and very suspicious. I don’t believe the SS is either inept or stupid. I could easily see a third party appealing to this guy’s ego, political views, and wallet to serve as a patsy, a la Oswald. Yet, that third party would have to be very powerful for the SS et al to stand down as they did. But, lots of details just don’t add up well for SS.
He wanted attention and to be a badass Couldn’t make the military but also didn’t want to do the work to succeed at anything else except this Wow you made your parents proud now young man .
Maybe thats why its so hard to explain Theodore Bundy was here in 1967. Because reality seems more unbelievable than truth. I cant say it right, people have to believe the othodoxie even when you try to speak the truth.
Ann he wasn't smiling because he liked the tickling he was terrified and unsure what go do how go handle it. I sweat severly in high school i was made fun of. And terrified of what people thought and didn't say. My senior year in a bigger community school i never once ste in the cafeteria. I went to counseling office and stufied. Hint counselors never asked. My parents told me stuff like dont think like that eho do you think you are that you're so important they tslk about you. You missed in this one
He’s smiles even his pants are getting attention but that doesn’t mean that he’s comfortable. He seems as Asperger or other which affects his social skills. His parents are from mental field and that’s a fact that it’s an obstacle to get mental health care as parents know better and don’t want to be labelled as failures.
I think it needs looking into, even though he was an adult by definition. If he lived at home with his parents and the fact his dad called the police, they must have assumed he or other people could be in danger. The lack of hygiene worries me too, a lot of teens and young adults are like that, but if it was as bad as they're stating it was and he was bullied in school due to that as well, there's another issue. They could be completely without liability over this, but we should find out.
I think ppl make a lot of allowances, however when multiple times in a POD low literature and niche literacy and niche guest selection is on display it surely narrows your audience. This is NOT bigoted or racist.. but you corner yourselves with the white middle and old aged Jewish male market. It comes across often as droll, small minded, outdated, self obsessed and dull. Half the guests are interesting. But you repeat the problematic ones and don't have enough variety. If your show had a family reunion, the hall would be filled with your guests. That's very narrow
Too bad he was killed, he could have offered a lot of info but I think he was silenced for a reason. It all was so well rehearsed like movie Shooter, Trump hit not even from great roof shot and just gets a glass nick no trace on his hands or shirt just visible on check. What a cheep shot. Wonder how they got just the perfect worst rifleman to enlist, weird his parents called police. His dad was #12 in MAGA list of review of supporters in county. Dad had lots of weapons but son couldn’t do well and so he takes on top shooters in multi pronged force and thinks he’ll be ok? None of the evidence fits. Another manipulation of really dense people. Why did his parents call police, they must have had apprehensions but for what? Will remain covered up mystery
From what I can make out of your comments, you seem to make some good points. One thing that will help you earn respect for your views is becoming familiar with sentence structure and punctuation, though. It can help in other areas of life also, though it is viewed as unimportant by many.
These pictures of the lone assassin are NOT current. He’s maybe 17 or 18 in these pics of him. His parents have NOT released a current photo. This is why they all keep saying “kid”. He was an ADULT of 20 years old. Please get other facts correct. He was not the same Thomas Crooks who donated the $15. It was an older man of same name. Please stay current. Thank you.
Dr. Ann Burgess you are amazing & a legend to me. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I have learned so much. Thank you !
There ARE MORE RECENT PICS OF HIM ON INTERNET…..this seems like older photo. ODD
I love Anne Burgess. Always live to listen to her and Gary Brucato!
👍👍
Sooooo excited for this episode!! I have the highest respect for Dr Ann Burgess. She is one of the most amazing women, so smart and humble.
I’m excited to learn about and hear what Gregg has to contribute.
"Total gargantuan failure of the SecretService"...💯
i watched the outstanding documentary about Dr Burgess-Mastermind: To Think Like a Killer-and found it so fascinating. Thx to the guests for their excellent insight.
Great panel. What an opportunity to hear from experts, without them being reduced to soundbites. Well done STS!
Very valuable and compelling insight from prestigious guests Dr. Ann and Mr. McCrary!
Really enjoyed hearing your guests’ perspectives.
why would the school admit he was bullied? schools are often clueless
Another insightful show. Such intelligent, experienced guests. Thank you!!!!!
ABC said the Secret Service knew he was on the roof for 30 mins. 😭
they are profiling the patsy
You have the “ Best of the Best” guest’s !Great Show!
Awesome Panel
So excited for this. Read Anne’s book last year! What a great documentary. Loved it!
Such great information and wonderful guests. Please be safe out there and be kind to each other. 🙏🏼🙏🏾❤️
Hi Joel. I met you and the COE at CrimeCon while you were heading home. It was great to meet both of you. I love your channel.
Awesome guests and show as always!
Hello All!!!👋❤️🇨🇦 Dr. Burgess 💖
16:46 Hello to Dr. Burgess. I am one of your Psych CNS students from years ago at Univ of Penn. and am still learning from you. 😊
You included a multifaceted assessment profile needed for this young man, including the family system, all of which will peel away the layers for all to begin understanding, to begin grieving , and to enable the world to go forward with new insight to develop much needed prevention interventions.
My boys were quite young when I was going to Penn. In their teens and twenties, I was a Psych Nurse MOM on steroids, and duty 24/7, watching, listening and talking with them, and their friends, teachers, coaches, probably to excess. I just wanted them to stay and be healthy. In their 30s, now, and so blessed.
All my prayers for the family, and everyone involved.
Toni Ann Bereskie APRN, PMHCNS-BC, MSN, MBA
Mastermind was phenomenal Ann!!! You are truly an inspiration!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Love you guys
Absolutely Excellent Guests !!
Thank you STS.
I agree with her explanation. Humiliation + interest in shooting + social isolation + personality + inability to cope = shooter
What awesome guest Joel
Great panel. Good info! Thanks!
I’m not sure the parents are liable for anything, bc he was an adult. He was over 18. The E Crumbley was 15 and under his parents supervision.
I really agree with this. Maybe I was under the wrong impression but I thought a major part of the Crumbley’s being prosecuted was the fact that Ethan was still a minor, not even 16-years-old yet. Also that they also purchased a gun but it was purchased with the idea that it was Ethan’s gun.
I feel these are much different circumstances and don’t feel Thomas’s parents will be charged.
Dr. Ann The Legend Burgess....what a great person to learn from!!!❤...And nonetheless Mr McCrary!!!👏🙌
Excellent thank you for your knowledge!!
My husband & I were watching 20/20 last night & saw Ann Burgess. I said “I think she’s the one that I just saw on STS!”. Guess I was paying attention in class!😂
I LOVE ANN!!!
QQQ why is the secret service not taking responsibility
I live in Butler PA, altho I wasn't at the rally. Secret service is putting the blame on the local police, Butler Twp, even tho the secret service was in charge of everything, and over all other agencies. They want the blame laid at literally anyone else's feet.
I have been mentioning these violent video games for years now. As a grandparent of 6, it breaks my heart to see my 8 year old grandson playing Fortnite. EVIL and impressionable young minds are being tainted. Then his outbursts when he loses. Unacceptable!!
Vegas shooting was the Mandalay Bay, not MGM. Very good show with wonderful information. Thank you!
More Ann Burgess please!❤
So very sad. Prayers for the family and friends of the victim. Prayers for shooter’s family. Stay strong.
Great Panel today!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Greg, please do NOT blame the victim!!!!
57:41 Host interrupts Dr Anne Burgess during one of her thoughts/musings/questions about the shooters weapon. Where and how did he obtain it and was it his? (Exceptionally valid points give the subject) Host: “By the way…. I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to interrupt but I’m wearing my luminol shirt today, that’s how you know I’ve gotten too deep into true crime. I walked around Chicago today with this shirt…” Missed an exceptional opportunity for genuine analysis to instead focus on a pointless silique about his attire relationship to true crime.
Two geniuses here.
Wow!!! Your guests ..
How come Dad did not know his guns were missing?????????
The father actually called local police well before the shooting to tell them his son and his AR-15 rifle were missing, and he was concerned and worried.
I work in mental health. Yes all info is very important.
I read he bought the ladder but didn't use it. He climbed on a nearby building to get on that building
He had asked his dad for permission to borrow rifle to go to gun range Then later his dad called police Weird
Not too many young people go on Facebook these days. Instagram, TikTok, and X usually.
Snapchat, Discord, Reddit!, Dark web sites.
Interesting that he's from Pennsylvania just like Bryan Kohberger..
The screams you heard were from the wife and daughter of Cory the fireman who was killed.
Thank you for validating that info. That’s what I guessed. How horrifying.
LOOK at the newer/older pics of him online
He was not bullied at school, he had friends as spoke to from the school counselor. This kid was set up, allowed to feel secure in what he was doing, or he wouldn't have been so bolden. That roof was less sloped than the others very walkable. Almost flat & should have been covered with counter snipers. This whole situation does not pass the smell test, but the government will never answer the questions.
Joel, He worked in s nursing home. I thought maybe the chatter about cuts to Medicaid and Medicare tipped him over the edge since cuts would certainly impact jobs and the services people receive.
Get the other photos online…..this is not the latest photo….it appears
Are people who work in nursing homes low achievers??? Geez, didn't know that.
The video of him in school looks to me like he’s talking about setting up a profile like on a dating site
i wonder if he knew he missed his mark
Dr Ann Burgess, great new series, very well developed, seen the 1st 3 episodes, looking forward to more, checking out some of the literature too. My cousin who I grew up with has a Doctoral Degree in Psychology, and a Master in Kung Fu, way cool. Check out the series people, you won"t be disappointed. Mastermind: To Think Like a Killer on Hulu Thanks for all your work on women victims of violence Dr Ann B.
Question… Not sure if the public is allowed to know but if so how many secret service members is an x~president entitled to? Would they all be at the rally? Who would decided that? Were there enough there to provide the security some say was needed?
Are his 5 children still receiving Secret Service protection? If so, that is a lot of assets deployed to cover people who can wasily afford to hire their own personal protection.
@@u.synligagree
It sounds like those boys made him read that info into the video from high school.
Is it true that the city cop couldn't get his gun out when he got to the top of the ladder?
How did he get the gun on the roof? Was he carrying it? Had he hid it in advance somewhere?
I am sorry, I have learned nothing new so far.
Ethan Crumbly was a MINOR! He was 15! Not an adult.
Poor hygiene, opposite political view, odd or too little clothes, lonely, isolated and then gun practicing. Can’t avoid thinking quality of relationship with his parents.
That's the description of many many young boys almost all of whom grow up and live a happy successful lives.
@@freethinkeralwaysbravo!!
He might not have been lonely He may have chose to be alone There’s a difference People might irritate him
The smell could have been schizophrenia. And in school quiet, he didn't want to be a target of kids.
The rifle club fiasco was 2 years earlier
He tried out for the zhigh school Rifle TEAM and was quickly rejected for being a horrible shooter, and a danger to anyone near him while he was shooting.
He called off work,and his parent may not have known,”the day of the shooting. Do you have the clip where the kids were pulling the legs of his sweat pants.
As to his choosing a former President, one of the main distributed pics of the killer shows him with a T-shirt depicting Mt. Rushmore. Indicative. As with Ann, I noticed the gender blurring. The pic of him crawling up the roof make him look more female than male, similar to a young man who became a sniper at a parade a couple years back. Two body language details: often smug expression (when not blank) - bad combo. After receiving HS diploma, walks off stage like an 60 yr old man.
In any case, tho I am DEFINITELY not a fan of Trump, I feel that perimeter security was INEXCUSABLE (as Greg said) for someone in Trump’s position, and very suspicious. I don’t believe the SS is either inept or stupid. I could easily see a third party appealing to this guy’s ego, political views, and wallet to serve as a patsy, a la Oswald. Yet, that third party would have to be very powerful for the SS et al to stand down as they did. But, lots of details just don’t add up well for SS.
The video games were first used to prepare young men for war I heard. Did his parent’s argue a lot about politics?
A coat of arms is common to register by families
Suspicious lack of "views" for this video.
He wanted attention and to be a badass Couldn’t make the military but also didn’t want to do the work to succeed at anything else except this Wow you made your parents proud now young man .
Does he have a copy of Catcher in the Rye?
Maybe thats why its so hard to explain Theodore Bundy was here in 1967. Because reality seems more unbelievable than truth. I cant say it right, people have to believe the othodoxie even when you try to speak the truth.
??? Could he have had access to the rally grounds days before???
He had grown his hair down his back A much different look than these pics
Two different guys...Crooks and Yearick
People observed that he looked a lot different when he graduated. I didn’t see any difference maybe I didn’t see the right picture.
Most teenage boys keep many of their thoughts to themselves
Did anyone ever call him " horseface" ?
He may have been a Republican Never Trumper
Lol with the video game angle 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
I heard it was 20mins
How is Carry I miss her Ann do you know
Sounds like BlackRock funded Crooks. Maybe trained him and helped him on logistics too ?
Ann he wasn't smiling because he liked the tickling he was terrified and unsure what go do how go handle it. I sweat severly in high school i was made fun of. And terrified of what people thought and didn't say. My senior year in a bigger community school i never once ste in the cafeteria. I went to counseling office and stufied. Hint counselors never asked. My parents told me stuff like dont think like that eho do you think you are that you're so important they tslk about you.
You missed in this one
I was born in September. Therefore was almost a year behind the age of my classmates. In otherwords he would be younger then most of my classmates.
He’s smiles even his pants are getting attention but that doesn’t mean that he’s comfortable. He seems as Asperger or other which affects his social skills. His parents are from mental field and that’s a fact that it’s an obstacle to get mental health care as parents know better and don’t want to be labelled as failures.
I think we all know what happened here!!
The more it is known about the boy, the more normal he looks. What a mystery.
Unimpressed with Greg's take
stop panicking about politics
FJB
HELLO
Budy wanted to pretend be went to Stanford
He has a us flag on his shirt
He
Too political
Was he gay?
His parents aren’t to blame he was 20 years old like his parents have control over there adult son🙄
I think it needs looking into, even though he was an adult by definition. If he lived at home with his parents and the fact his dad called the police, they must have assumed he or other people could be in danger. The lack of hygiene worries me too, a lot of teens and young adults are like that, but if it was as bad as they're stating it was and he was bullied in school due to that as well, there's another issue. They could be completely without liability over this, but we should find out.
"NO rest for the wicked"
Not
"NO rest for the weary"
1,009 reasons to be frustrated with this presenter.
I think ppl make a lot of allowances, however when multiple times in a POD low literature and niche literacy and niche guest selection is on display it surely narrows your audience.
This is NOT bigoted or racist.. but you corner yourselves with the white middle and old aged Jewish male market. It comes across often as droll, small minded, outdated, self obsessed and dull.
Half the guests are interesting. But you repeat the problematic ones and don't have enough variety.
If your show had a family reunion, the hall would be filled with your guests. That's very narrow
Why are you watching then ? Move on .
Too bad he was killed, he could have offered a lot of info but I think he was silenced for a reason. It all was so well rehearsed like movie Shooter, Trump hit not even from great roof shot and just gets a glass nick no trace on his hands or shirt just visible on check. What a cheep shot. Wonder how they got just the perfect worst rifleman to enlist, weird his parents called police. His dad was #12 in MAGA list of review of supporters in county. Dad had lots of weapons but son couldn’t do well and so he takes on top shooters in multi pronged force and thinks he’ll be ok? None of the evidence fits. Another manipulation of really dense people. Why did his parents call police, they must have had apprehensions but for what? Will remain covered up mystery
From what I can make out of your comments, you seem to make some good points. One thing that will help you earn respect for your views is becoming familiar with sentence structure and punctuation, though. It can help in other areas of life also, though it is viewed as unimportant by many.
These pictures of the lone assassin are NOT current. He’s maybe 17 or 18 in these pics of him. His parents have NOT released a current photo. This is why they all keep saying “kid”. He was an ADULT of 20 years old.
Please get other facts correct. He was not the same Thomas Crooks who donated the $15. It was an older man of same name. Please stay current. Thank you.