Paramount Kills Sale Talks - May Axe Paramount+ And License Out Content
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- The TJCS crew discuss Paramount possibly killing all sale talks, shutting down Paramount Plus and licensing out their content.
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Praise God. They don’t have enough content to have a streaming service. Not to mention that we have too many streaming services. Paramount 100% should make shows and movies, and license to other streaming services.
So pretty much 2 birds with one stone, Paramount will remain its own thing while Paramount+ is out. Paramount doesnt have the vast IPs Disney has to warrant a streaming service, or the brand recognition that MAX has.
I like paramount plus because it’s gives content at the best available streaming quality. Unlike Netflix and others who make you pay extra. I watched Beverly Hills cop on Netflix then compared it to paramount + and it was a huge difference in visual and audio quality.
Agree
They have plenty of content. It just a matter of whether or not enough people are aware of it, interested in watching it or even realize its from CBS All Access/Paramount Plus. Your Honor was a great show and is getting a lot more attention now that its streaming on Netflix. Evil started off on CBS, then went to Paramount Plus and then just like other shows, got a boost once the first season was out on Netflix. The 2nd season was just added to Netflix a short time ago and the 4th and final season is on Paramount Plus at the moment of this comment.
Hard disagree. They’ve got thousands of hours of content with just the Star Trek and NCIS franchises alone. Plus all the other shows and movies makes it well worth the cost.
So that's why the 3rd season of the Beavis and Butthead revival is going to Comedy Central instead of Paramount Plus like it has been
Loving Paramount Plus at the moment mainly because of Star Trek. Old and New. It would suck if Star Trek would be split up again.
Only problem is Paramount plus doesn't have any of the Trek movies.
@@thundercron77 Not in Germany. We got all of Trek on Paramount Plus here. Including the movies.
I signed up for Paramount Plus for the Super Bowl, and it's the only streaming service I have. With the Nickelodeon catalog, their family content rivals Disney (how many different Mickey Mouse cartoons do I need?). You get the greats like Ren and Stimpy, SpongeBob, and Beavis and Butthead. Twilight Zone is great. For $6, I don't know why more people don't sign up. I'd be sad to see it go.
Its not going anywhere. Lots of analysts want it to go because consolidation is good for top heavy investors and bankers.
Agreed. I signed up so I have access to all the Star Trek content in one place. I also like their network dramas - NCIS franchise, Tracker, SWAT, etc.
@joefan82 that's my only complaint about the service, is that they don't have any of the Trek films, despite being the "home" of Star Trek.
I never thought they’d go with Skydance with Redstone. The big question is - Why would Skydance buy a studio with billions of debt anyway?
Max isn't even using all its own content to save money. Why would they want to license? I think their best option is to sell several packages of content.
I have Paramount+ through Walmart+, and I only use it to watch Halo & Ghosts. If it wasn't for those two shows, I'd never use it. There was that one show a couple years back, Players, that I really enjoyed. But, it's been purged from their library.
I open Paramount + as much as the other services you mentioned
Well, they better hope that companies out there actually WANT to pay for the content.
I love Paramount + watch it all the time... Mayor of Kingstown,Showtime,Lioness,Tulsa King ,Yellowstone & its spin offs, and a ton of other great shows and movies are on there 😀 👍 it's one of my go to apps I really hope it doesn't go away
I totally feel the same way!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Same here!
They just don’t want to sell period, this is such a waste of time and potential
Ellison literally gave them a sweetheart deal, It's genuinely bizarre how much they have declined in value
I smell a shareholder lawsuit.
So do i
First casualty of the streaming wars?
no several streaming services have already closed
I would consider Sony's Crackle to be the first casualty. They got into streaming by purchasing Crackle back in 2006 and didn't sell their majority share until 2019. Most or their original content was in the early years. Don't forget about their attempt to get into the streaming cable replacement business with Playstation VUE. It was like Sling or Hulu Live.
There's 2, but the official time of death hasn't been called yet
Para is 1 and the other is Warner Brothers. Both will either be bought for pennies on dollars when they file bankruptcy, or when a larger player takes them out at fire sale price.
Sony's model is the best for a studio that wants to make money now . The other guys are betting on the future and it's a huge risk.
I will never forgive Paramount for what they did to Halo.
I pay for paramount plus and like the service would be displease if paramount does shut it down
Agree. I’m also a subscriber and the content is light years better than Peacock. I’m only a few months into a full year subscription. I’m guessing no refund. And I’m also curious who’ll be the streamer for CBS (AFC) football games this fall. 😢😢
I love Jason P. Hunt's "Bring 'Star Trek' Home to NBC" idea and I'm taking it with a grain of stardust and a step further. I say that Paramount should license American TV and stremaing rights for current and future "Star Trek" shows--minus "Prodigy"--to NBCUniversal for airing and streaming across NBC, Telemundo and Peacock and that replace Alex Kurtzman and JJ Abrams as "Star Trek" partners with anyone--like Rober Meyer Burnett--who understands "Star Trek" from the get-go. If Netflix decided not renew "Prodigy" for season three, then I say that Universal Kids should pick it up as part of that Paramount-NBCU "Star Trek" deal. Shout out to Jason and his SciFi4Me TV team.
Honestly Paramount (formerly ViacomCBS) would have been better off if they had just kept their stuff on Hulu and Netflix like they originally had it and not get caught up in a streaming wars in the first place. Honestly, the fact that none of these Services even contemplated how much it would cost to create and maintain an independent streaming platform, tells me that leadership was incredibly shortsighted and naive, and investors are borderline incompetent when it comes to the cost of tech development. The latter which applies to the entire tech industry in general, because it's a large factor in why so many tech companies are doing Mass layoffs. And yet, no one seems to be learning this lesson still.
This is seems like a smarter move imo. Right now it's basically a distressed sale. If they can license the content out to platforms that have more subscribers they can increase profitability. That will increase the stock price and increase the acquisition price if they choose to go that route later.
Well screw me as a paramount plus subscriber and as a paramount freelancer
There again, if the IP'S get bided on, Scream and Mission Impossible may get bought by WB, for 2 reasons:
1. Max is already and been carrying Scream 1-4 for a while now.
2. Tom Cruise is setting up a new office at WB. So It would make more sense to send Mission Impossible and Top Gun to Max.
For Scream, I would rather WB or Universal buy it. Not Disney. Do not put Scream on Disney Plus, unless Hulu has it.
skydance owns both top gun and MI not paramount
If they put their content on Movies Anywhere, I'd start buying their movies again.
I only signed up for Paramount+ at first to stream Skyfall when I was doing a Bond marathon for No Time to Die back in 2021. I kept it for Halo and the new Beavis and Butt-Head. But yeah, unless I have a great itch to watch a few of the new Beavis and Butt-Head episodes, I barely use it.
I think they can pursue licensing as long as all or at least most of their IPs, including Comedy Central, MTV, and especially Nickelodeon, are available on a single streaming service like Netflix or Amazon Prime.
If they shut down Paramount+ then what will my Wally+ come with 😱
Been arguing for awhile this is the way most studios should go. They have good shows, but most people only stick with a few services.
Some of those shows would be a genuine hit on, say, Netflix. But most people won't go to Paramount+ just for Star Trek, for example. They just find another show on Netflix.
I’m a big Star Trek fan and when I saw that Netflix was losing Star Trek content, I signed up for Paramount+ and have ended up watching a lot of their content. I actually use Paramount, Max, and Prime the most.
I am preying Hasbro drops Paramount+ for their future shows
I only use it for the South Park specials mainly
Typical Paramount 😂
Paramount+ is pretty good, but they don’t have a Cool Factor or a good marketing hook. It’s LOADED with nostalgic material, great nostalgia, but a critical shortage of go-to new releases. And, they have bet heavily on nostalgia, but don’t have full series runs of all their classic television series’.
Actually Sony is hanging in there and is working on a bid for National Amusements
I actually like Paramount plus, 'The Offer' is so good!
been a whole lot of NOTHING since that
I think I'm kind of glad about this. I wasn't that much of a fan of Parmount+. I loved the Star Trek Shows like Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds on there. But didn't really like the other stuff as much. I think there were some other shows or movies on there that I think I was curious about. But not enough to want to keep this on, and for a while i kind of forgot I had it and forgot to cancel it. I like the idea of licensing their stuff out to the other streaming platforms. i think the only exception to this that I don't like is Peacock. I saw a decent handful of shows on their thought were decent. But didn't have a chance to finish while on my trial for it. Don't have the budget for it to see the stuff i'd like on there.
But yeah, overall, i'm ok with Paramount's stuff going to other platforms.
i just hope the Star Trek stuff ends up on a platform that I already have so as to not pay extra.
If you enjoyed Yellowstone, most of the shows from the creator/co-creator Taylor Sheridan have been anywhere from good to excellent. There's even one I consider a masterpiece.
101 Studio Shows:
• Mayor of Kingstown
• 1883
• Tulsa King
• 1923
• Special Ops: Lioness
• Lawmen: Bass Reeves
If you were a fan of the Good Wife the spin off The Good Fight is a must watch and excellent and by the same creators.
I doubt paramount plus and peacock are going anywhee
I believe Paramount plus will be apart of peacock honestly that’s the best deal for Paramount
paramount should license out their IPs to different streaming services, they already have a deal with Netflix with some nickelodeon stuff unless that contract expired or got canceled
outside the usa netflix has other paramount stuff like top gund and MI
They already do
they shoulda named it viacom plus and really capitalized off their cable television catalogue: MTV, nickelodeon, BET, VH1... instead of leading with the legacy movie studio brand. serial television is what drives streaming. they pretty much own basic cable and but didnt make much use of it. Even paramount's free service, pluto tv, probably had better name recognition. Coulda been pluto tv plus... also, I never understood why BET plus was a separate service.... except greed.
This is how paramount gets back to a $3-4 annual eps. Might not hit the highs of $5 but $3 or $4 would still be massive. Target $32 a share.
If this were to happen. What do you think would happen to Halo? Who do you think would get halo if it was me I would have halo move back to Microsoft movies and TV as an original show. It is after all made by Xbox practically.
It's a good move. I always forgot that Paramount+ existed. I bet a lot of other people are the same. Ever since I went through all the Star Treks a few years ago on Netflix, twice. I've been satiated in regards to Star Trek.
Paramount+ is only a ghost town because there is no consistent release schedule for the shows people like.
If p+ is joint with someone else what about upcoming releases will that still happen
I love 80s tv shows and I do like Paramount plus
Seems like the only sensible course to me.
As long as what happened to Fox by Disney doesn’t Happen to Paramount then I’ll be happy
Paramount should just sell to Sony
No. Sony should buy Warner Bros. That purchase will help Sony Pictures and Sony Interactive Entertainment (aka PlayStation)
@@KingAgniKai the ftc would never allow that
@@johansvensson833 Why not? They allowed Disney to buy 20th Century Fox and Microsoft to buy Activision-Blizzard.
@@KingAgniKaiDisney and Microsoft are American companies. Sony is a Japanese company.
@@KingAgniKaiand Sony doesn’t want to be directly involved in the streaming industry. They don’t want their own app or the organization headaches part and parcel with running a streaming service.
I've been having a pretty good time watching shows and movies since it was first launched as CBS All Access. I was big fan of the Good Wife and Star Trek, so they had me right from the get-go with the Good Fight and Star Trek Discovery. I've watched and enjoyed or am still watching the following shows, limited series and movies. And I'm looking forward to several upcoming shows also listed below.
Shows:
• The Good Fight
• Star Trek: Discovery
• Star Trek: Picard
• Coyote
• Mayor of Kingstown
• 1883
• Halo
• Star Trek: Strange New Worlds
• Tulsa King
• 1923
• Wolf Pack
• Fatal Attraction
• Special Ops: Lioness
• Lawmen: Bass Reeves
• Star Trek: Lower Decks
• Star Trek: Prodigy
• The Ready Room
Co-Produced Shows:
• SkyMed
Continued shows from other networks:
• Younger
• Evil
• Criminal Minds
• Joe Picket
Upcoming Original shows:
• Landman
• Flashdance
• NCIS: Tony & Ziva
• Star Trek: Starfleet Academy
Movies:
• Infinite
• Jerry & Marge Go Large
• Honor Society
• Significant Other
• At Midnight
• Finestkind
• Little Wing
And let's not forget Showtime. I saw and enjoyed all of these or am still watching these through CBS All Access/Paramount Plus:
Showtime Shows or Limited Series
• Yellowjackets
• Roadies
• Your Honor
• The Man Who Fell to Earth
• Let the Right One In
• House of Lies
• Dexter: New Blood