And then you've got the Chief barking out orders as the Captain waits to see if he's gonna live or die. . . Nothing left but to trust his ship and crew.
"The scene where the "DALLAS" is shown "leaping" out of the water is actually USS HOUSTON just outside the Straits of Juan Defuca, 600 yards off the Starboard side of a US Frigate, conducting an intentional full speed emergency blow that was practiced 6 times to get the timing and positioning right for the 6 cameras arrayed on the surface warship. Each practice was done without an actual emergency blow, the submarine "drove" to the surface. On the final run the HOUSTON alerted the crew 1 minute before actually initiating the emergency blow. Positioning was done without the benefit of GPS, which was not available." trivia
The way the captain and crew of the nuclear attack sub Dallas were portrayed in this movie is one of my favorite things about it. Their position in the plot, the casting, the photography, the scripted dialogue … ALL of it is nothing less than genius. One of the best novels I have ever read; one of the best movies I’ve ever seen.
I remember reading about the amount of money the studio paid the US government to get that shot of the sub bursting to the surface. It was a pretty penny.
@@genepatterson4375 really? I thought it was the iconic leaked footage that a news crew caught off the coast of CA and Mexico that alerted the world to the existence of our Ohio class submarines. I know that same footage is used in a number of submarine movies because the US Navy doesn't just rent out their best equipment for movie props.
This was one of Stellan Skarsgard's first movies in the US. It is amazing to see how young and vital he was as the diabolically arrogant Captain Tupolev.
@@michaelgl8516 That’s one of the very subtle touches the director made. Green lighting for the Konevalov, blue lighting for the Dallas and red lighting for the Red October.
"I hope to Christ this works." When I'm changing a tire, when I'm putting in a new toilet, when I'm putting up Christmas lights, when I make a Thanksgiving turkey, I could go on & on...
@@danistaab7152 Buuuttt... Whoever heard of a 688 with side plates on the ends of her horizontal stabilizers? Los Angeles-class boats don't have those side plates! 688s FOREVER!!!!! 😎
Let's just take a moment to salute the set department for the waterfall display at 1:28, you can actually see the torpedo track appear and get closer as well as Red Octobers track, the only thing missing is the Alfa, but perhaps that's in the baffles and Dallas hasn't got her towed array out (which given the maneuvers she's pulling is just as well).
the camera work is just great .. the one scene goes from the computerscreen, focus onto the seaman, pans to mr. thompson, then to the chief, then to the instruments... all in one take with dialogue.. its so simple but no cuts needed.. (they cuts once at the end but the shot after is from that one take)
Also shows how good a job they did r creating the dimension's of a 688, you could basically see the whole control room, and the ting was on a hydraulic platform so it could tilt ..plus it wasn't all futuristic, and clean, looked like a well oiled, but cramped working space, with stuff strewn where it fit ..Gave a real account of the claustrophobic conditions on a sub, without the cheese..
Indeed... He plays a ruthless Soviet Era comrade well, though I'm sure The Hunt for Red October cemented the idea of his casting with HBO when they decided to consider who would play who with Chernobyl.
On a side note, the XO of the Dallas should have been short listed for his own command after this. The utter BALLS to slide your sub DIRECTLY BEHIND another sub without hitting it considering that ALL your navigation is done using only charts and sonar, for the sole purpose of INTENTIONALLY getting a LIVE torpedo on your tail, succeed in it, then SUCCESSFULLY evade that torpedo. Its a shame the entire Op was classified, so few people unaware of the MASSIVE BRASS BALLS of that XO.
Greer knew, and he’d make sure Thompson got his due. I don’t think the books mention Thompson again, but (spoiler alert), Mancuso gets promoted to COMSUBPAC and then eventually to CINCPAC, so if Greer didn’t, Mancuso eventually would. Knowing Bart, he’d have his former shipmates from Dallas in key places.
@@zlinedavid yes, I wanna say "Debt of Honor" mentioned it. The book where a trade war happens between Japan and the U.S., and the Japanese occupy Saipan. I know Mancuso had a lot of friends skippering his remaining subs.
I think the XO is also mentioned as being a CO in Red Storm Rising. Right after the Russians invade Iceland it shows the message going out from both Atlantic and Pacific Command to all Navy ships to immediately begin unrestricted warfare and sink all Russian ships. I think Thompson is CO of a different sub in one of the short stories in that involving submarine warfare and if I remember correctly his boat destroys 3 Alfas and 2 Akula submarines along with several Soviet Destroyers and Cruisers. As a Marine Corps Vet while I love Red October Red Storm Rising is one of my favorites as it shows a non nuclear war between NATO and the Soviets/Warsaw Pact. Another one of my absolute favorites is The Bear and The Dragon. That is where China invaded Russia right after the collapse of Communism and the Soviet Union to steal its minerals and oil in Siberia and The US aligns with Russia and invites it to join NATO so that China has to fight Russia and the US. Phenomenal Story. Tom Clancy has always been one of my favorite authors and I read all his stuff up until the stuff put out by his estate that used other writers starting in the late and early 2000s. I was born in Baltimore where he lived until his death. He also was a minority owner of the Baltimore Orioles baseball team
@@MaxwellAerialPhotography it's using active sonar as guidance so going dead in the water won't help much in that case, and if they were locked by the torpedo then they'd have a hard time shaking it off since it takes time for the frigate to speed up, but it's true that the torpedo is too deep to find the frigate
Still looks great decades later. Really shows what using real objects and practical effects can do, CGI would look dated almost instantly. Great cinematography!
and i just noticed they had a closure rate of 50 yards per second (Which is about 102 mph) when jonsey was counting down the distance from collision from 400 yards to 350 to 300 yards.
The Alpha class is an extremely fast submarine, capable of about 40+kts, while the Typhoon (Akula in Russia) isn't the fastest submarine in the world, they aren't a slouch either at 27kts. Red October might be slightly faster thanks to her Caterpillar Drive, but no more than maybe 32kts. Either way, the best case isn't to far off from your estimate (77kts), and a thing to remember is that these are estimated distances, not actual distances.
Not the first time they do stuff like that. Remember Under Siege starring Steven Segal and Tommy Lee Jones? Supposedly it took place on the USS Missouri. But in actuality, they were onboard the USS Alabama IRL.
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You heard Admiral Greer moments earlier. If he was never there - and he was 2nd highest CIA officer in the whole Company- then neither were you.
@@bryanchong1713 . Incorrect. I was on the boat and a number of other crewmembers also served as Soviet sailors. All of the in water shots were the USS Houston. They still had some of the movie props aboard when I left in 94.
Scott Glenn was amazing as Captain Burt Mancuso, but I think we should give attention to Dallas' Executive Officer Mr. Thompson. He was one hell of an officer to make all those command decisions while his captain was on the Red October. I like to think that Mr. Thompson was given command of his own submarine after this mission. LOL
Great movie, acting, music. This scene makes me wonder, though, how Red October survived. It surely was soooo close to the Kanovolov at the time of the explosion. Would the October crew have survived the blast? Concussion? Insightful feedback most welcome. Kind thanks.
Soviet submarines are infamously durable things, cast-titanium triple-hulls make a sub quite durable (yeah, the Soviets were able to cast titanium so effectively they made it look like they're casting steel). A Typhoon would be one of the many subs with this sort of hull, as well as the Alfa. It should be noted that Soviet torpedoes have more boom than their NATO counterparts, likely due to the fact that they've assumed that NATO could cast titanium as well as they did...
@@zlinedavid Typhoons were standard steel alloy. A Typhoon made from titanium would be astronomically pricey to build. The titanium Sierra class only had four boats because they were so expensive. The steel-hulled Akula proved to be just as good if not better than the Sierra.
@@TheTrueAdept Typhoon class as fat as I know didn't use titanium in their hulls, bloody hard to work with, Papa or goldenfish were great examples of this.. maybe around reactor spaces or vital missle stuff, but the double hulls did a good job of protecting the innards and were quite tough ..
What this movie continues to remind us are the multiple layers of cloak and dagger - majority of the crew did not know of the defection intent and the US navy to make it look like they were attempting to assist the Soviet navy, all which required precision and luck on a grand scale
The amount of impossible maneuvering and torpedo action in this scene is unmeasurable, but it’s entertaining as hell. I’m an old bubnlehead so you’ll have to excuse my hubris.
it's the pace as well, he had to keep the action going.. so things were condensed so the layman could comprehend it.. Seeing a torpedo chase an American sub 3000 yards off her stern , the audience would see just the blackness of the sea from the fish's vantage, but danger close from the subs crew's vantage.. plus the timing was condensed to seconds instead of minutes.. situational awareness, reaction times, etc just don't take 3 min 43 sec.. ..Hollywood stuff, but we get the gyst.. in fact in the book it's a collision that kills the alpha as you know.. much more likely and better use of Octobers immense bulk ( though titanium is pretty tough, maybe shoddy soviet welding saved the day?).. either way, good observation.. It's guys like Lockwood, Gunther Prien, Morton, O'kene , and a host of Jap U boat skippers that hauled huge brass ones behind their boats.. Otto Kretschmer comes to mind too.. Doenitz himself pulled off a doozy or 2 in ww1.. American accomplishments are too many to mention, Cavallah, Dace n Darter, Nautilus ? Barb hitting a train anyone ? lots of material to make a good movie from ...
Yes. The Torpedo’s sonar is looking for anything it can get a solid return off of. The Dallas interposing itself caused the torp to lock onto it instead. Presented with a new big target, the torpedo pursues it relentlessly, having lost sight of the red October.
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@@dmmchugh3714 the countermeasures are bubbling because they are noisemakers. The bubbling action creates a strong localized noise source and confuses the Torpedo, much as jamming does to radar. Most torpedoes are programmed to either circle around or go through the noisemaker and reacquire the target. In this case the Dallas fired the noisemaker as it began the Emergency Blow, and the torpedo lost lock and sought out the noisemaker and dove through it. By surfacing, the Dallas took advantage of the fact that most torpedoes have poor vertical detection and exited its sonar envelope before it could begin a new search pattern.
@@FloatyBones77 just not that close or fast , and Dallas would have to be in a very opportune position to pull it off, they would never hove gotten in between a fat running torpedo, 50 knts, luanched by a fast running alpha 43 knts, with a 35knt sub? fairly close to a 26knt boomer.. once you do the math it's pretty unlikely, though fun to watch !!!
The torpedo was locked on the Red October, but the Dallas pulled between the Red October and the torpedo getting it to lock on Dallas and draw the torpedo away at least temporarily. They then used an emergency blow and countermeasures to pull away quickly and throw off the torpedo.
I don't know what the hell is that sonarist so happy about?? "Attaway "Dallas"!! Sir you've done it! Hurray! ...THE TORPEDOES ARE LOCKED ON US!" Woow! Some freaking reason to celebrate!
It was a part of the plan. The crew of the Dallas knew what Mr. Thompson’s plan was. Since the Dallas could not fire on the Russian attack sub, Mr. Thompson figured the best way to help Red October, with the Dallas’ Commanding Officer and best Sonar-man on board, was to pull the Russian torpedo away from the Red October then drop counter measures and full-blow.
You’re the kind of person people don’t want to see movies with because you get confused by things nobody else is confused by. Then, in your ignorance, you make fun of what you saw. Dude. Just stick to Adam Sandler movies.
@@winstonsol8713 Whaat??? 🤣F@@K off lunatic! 🤣 Check this this nutjob out - the trolling imbecile and his incomparable "sense of humour"! Read Clancy's book first, THEN PONTIFICATE to others about a scene that just simplified the plot hundredfold in a totally unrealistic way! Maybe then you'll understand why I did write that down - until then keep your distance from me and lay off the meth, for your own sake! PS. Jeez! Ja pier...! ...co za PAJAC!... 😃😃
That was the point, the torpedos were locked on Red October, Dallas was redirecting them by first getting them locked onto it then breaking the lock so they'll redirect back onto the sub that launched them at Red
@@winstonsol8713 You're the kind of person that assumes what sort of a person someone else is, because the latter made an IRONIC comment, about a scene that is closer to bad sci-fi and not only implausible, but de facto IMPOSSIBLE! Next time READ CLANCY'S BOOK, if you know what a book is! These are not fighter-jets in the air, launching chaffs & flares, to get rid of a missile and a modern torpedo is not an IR-guided "Sidewinder". These are submarines - especially a beast like the "Typhoon"-class - will not enact those manouvers in seconds, like shown here - it will take them many minutes just to make a simple TURN - sometimes HOURS, so if you don't get irony - please! - keep the trap shut, 'cause the only fool here is you. 😂 PS. Your comment would have bothered me, if you only knew three languages more. Stick to comics kid. Pozdrowienia pajacyku na sznurkach! 😂
No one did, this is based off a real event in Russia where a ships officer stole a Russian warship. But he did not try to come here instead they tried to start a Russian civil war.
Konavolov says it's 900 metres behind. There is no way Dallas gets between that. In fact when it fires it's a matter of seconds. Well, movies made from books you buy at airports.
true Norm, and it didn't happen in the Book, October collides with the alpha when her skipper makes a mistake.. and hits the conning tower, so even the Titanium hull didn't help her..Clancy was a little more realistic in his writing.. however a boomer even coming close to an Alpha ? doubtful lest she was disabled.. Personally if I were Ramius, I would feint surrender, intend to pull up along side, then put the pedal to the medal and smash her before he can get moving..
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The best scene from one of those movies that never gets old no matter how many times you've seen it.
"Ok Chief....put us on the roof...."
the jitter in his voice :D
Full rise fairwater planes :)
@@sfctw1 not 100 % sure if it would work.
And then you've got the Chief barking out orders as the Captain waits to see if he's gonna live or die. . . Nothing left but to trust his ship and crew.
@@themocaw “I hope to Christ this works” indeed.
"The scene where the "DALLAS" is shown "leaping" out of the water is actually USS HOUSTON just outside the Straits of Juan Defuca, 600 yards off the Starboard side of a US Frigate, conducting an intentional full speed emergency blow that was practiced 6 times to get the timing and positioning right for the 6 cameras arrayed on the surface warship. Each practice was done without an actual emergency blow, the submarine "drove" to the surface. On the final run the HOUSTON alerted the crew 1 minute before actually initiating the emergency blow. Positioning was done without the benefit of GPS, which was not available." trivia
🎶8 lords a leaping 🎶
That’s so cool fact thanks
Thank you for this! This is one of my all time favorite movies!
The way the captain and crew of the nuclear attack sub Dallas were portrayed in this movie is one of my favorite things about it. Their position in the plot, the casting, the photography, the scripted dialogue … ALL of it is nothing less than genius. One of the best novels I have ever read; one of the best movies I’ve ever seen.
Yep, 1990. That was before the GPS constellation was up. Was just getting started back then on Delta II's
Seeing the Dallas burst through in all her majesty and glory. One of the greatest scenes ever.
RIP Captain Ramius. There will never be another.
Like watching a T-Rex going thru a brick wall...
Wishing that was the Thresher... or Scorpion... IRL
I remember reading about the amount of money the studio paid the US government to get that shot of the sub bursting to the surface. It was a pretty penny.
@@genepatterson4375 really? I thought it was the iconic leaked footage that a news crew caught off the coast of CA and Mexico that alerted the world to the existence of our Ohio class submarines. I know that same footage is used in a number of submarine movies because the US Navy doesn't just rent out their best equipment for movie props.
02:08 That young sailor's reaction to seeing the USS Dallas come out of the water is priceless.
I worked with that actor, many years later. He was a production planner, but still had his SAG card from this role.
The entire theater roared laughing at his line.
@@RandyBaumery-s4iso did I!
He wasnt aware that it was a soviet sub hunting the red october
This was one of Stellan Skarsgard's first movies in the US. It is amazing to see how young and vital he was as the diabolically arrogant Captain Tupolev.
And the greenish light cat on his skin made him look zombie-like. Deathly palor with sunken eyes.
Interesting. His appearance changed so much that I didn't recognize him in "Mama Mia!". Of course, ~25 years didn't do any favors to my memory either.
Until he popped up in this scene. I didn’t know he was in it. Such a great film
@@michaelgl8516 That’s one of the very subtle touches the director made. Green lighting for the Konevalov, blue lighting for the Dallas and red lighting for the Red October.
1:59 _"C'mon Big D... Fly!"_
What he said on his honeymoon.
Lol
I love the line
Followed by "Emergency Blow"
Imagine being the only one that laughed in the cinemas when this was out in 1991.
Oh shut up
Soon to be 30 years old this movie in 2 months... damn I miss the 90’s
I know right I was on the USS Enterprise when this came out a tiger cruise, when my brother was in the Navy.
"I hope to Christ this works." When I'm changing a tire, when I'm putting in a new toilet, when I'm putting up Christmas lights, when I make a Thanksgiving turkey, I could go on & on...
Pretty sure that's most of us more than we care to admit lol.
Throwing the breaker on for a new circuit you just installed.
Thanks for the laugh. lol. I’ll be using this one from now on myself
"You've lost another submarine?!"
2:13 you can really see the respect the crew had for Ramius
I'm surprised Dallas could get to the surface that fast with so many heavy brass balls on the ship. Great scene for the XO and the crew.
Captain scared them out of the water YAAAAAAAAAY!!! That was my favorite quote 😂
Thank you for putting these clips up, I can't get enough of this movie. It's probably the most watched film for me, ever. A true classic.
Agreed. This might be the only movie I never get tired of. I could watch it on repeat and it's still just as incredible.
@@danistaab7152 Buuuttt... Whoever heard of a 688 with side plates on the ends of her horizontal stabilizers? Los Angeles-class boats don't have those side plates!
688s FOREVER!!!!! 😎
I think they used a diesel sub for shots of the boats Interior.
Amen .
"The hardest part of playing chicken is knowing when to flinch"
Lots of memorable lines in such a short sequence!
Still one of my favourite movies of all time, cheesy as heck in places but the rule of cool very much applies!
I wonder if ever again any subs movie will be as good as this masterpiece.
Red October is not as good as Das Boot ;)
Crimson Tide came pretty damn close I’d say.
If they made the novel Attack of the seawolf into a movie, I think it would be awesome.
Nope.
I thought U-571 was pretty good. 😊
Let's just take a moment to salute the set department for the waterfall display at 1:28, you can actually see the torpedo track appear and get closer as well as Red Octobers track, the only thing missing is the Alfa, but perhaps that's in the baffles and Dallas hasn't got her towed array out (which given the maneuvers she's pulling is just as well).
You’ve got to be a former sonarman. 🫡
the camera work is just great .. the one scene goes from the computerscreen, focus onto the seaman, pans to mr. thompson, then to the chief, then to the instruments... all in one take with dialogue.. its so simple but no cuts needed.. (they cuts once at the end but the shot after is from that one take)
Also shows how good a job they did r creating the dimension's of a 688, you could basically see the whole control room, and the ting was on a hydraulic platform so it could tilt ..plus it wasn't all futuristic, and clean, looked like a well oiled, but cramped working space, with stuff strewn where it fit ..Gave a real account of the claustrophobic conditions on a sub, without the cheese..
Just a few good lines and a lot of tension/suspense, and you get one of the best scenes ever!
"The hard part about playin' chicken is knowin' when to flinch."
my favorite line in the movie "come on Big D Fly"
Woah it’s that guy from Chernobyl! So cool that he survived this and went on to be the minister for power or whatever.
Which one? Can you provide a timestamp?
@@HeavenlyMandatecaptain of the other Russian sub 0:10
Indeed... He plays a ruthless Soviet Era comrade well, though I'm sure The Hunt for Red October cemented the idea of his casting with HBO when they decided to consider who would play who with Chernobyl.
And later a Harkonnen baron
TELL F***ING GORBACHEV!!!
We're gonna need a new phone.......
The crew is so pumped up when the Dallas hits the surface
On a side note, the XO of the Dallas should have been short listed for his own command after this. The utter BALLS to slide your sub DIRECTLY BEHIND another sub without hitting it considering that ALL your navigation is done using only charts and sonar, for the sole purpose of INTENTIONALLY getting a LIVE torpedo on your tail, succeed in it, then SUCCESSFULLY evade that torpedo. Its a shame the entire Op was classified, so few people unaware of the MASSIVE BRASS BALLS of that XO.
"This is either a citation or a court martial"
Greer knew, and he’d make sure Thompson got his due. I don’t think the books mention Thompson again, but (spoiler alert), Mancuso gets promoted to COMSUBPAC and then eventually to CINCPAC, so if Greer didn’t, Mancuso eventually would. Knowing Bart, he’d have his former shipmates from Dallas in key places.
@@zlinedavid yes, I wanna say "Debt of Honor" mentioned it. The book where a trade war happens between Japan and the U.S., and the Japanese occupy Saipan. I know Mancuso had a lot of friends skippering his remaining subs.
@@joshuachapman2065 That’s exactly it. My favorite book in the series actually.
I think the XO is also mentioned as being a CO in Red Storm Rising. Right after the Russians invade Iceland it shows the message going out from both Atlantic and Pacific Command to all Navy ships to immediately begin unrestricted warfare and sink all Russian ships. I think Thompson is CO of a different sub in one of the short stories in that involving submarine warfare and if I remember correctly his boat destroys 3 Alfas and 2 Akula submarines along with several Soviet Destroyers and Cruisers. As a Marine Corps Vet while I love Red October Red Storm Rising is one of my favorites as it shows a non nuclear war between NATO and the Soviets/Warsaw Pact. Another one of my absolute favorites is The Bear and The Dragon. That is where China invaded Russia right after the collapse of Communism and the Soviet Union to steal its minerals and oil in Siberia and The US aligns with Russia and invites it to join NATO so that China has to fight Russia and the US. Phenomenal Story. Tom Clancy has always been one of my favorite authors and I read all his stuff up until the stuff put out by his estate that used other writers starting in the late and early 2000s. I was born in Baltimore where he lived until his death. He also was a minority owner of the Baltimore Orioles baseball team
2:20 Imagine if the torpedo locked on to the American Frigate.
If the frigates commander is smart he will have killed engines and gone dead in the water with homing torpedoes swimming about.
Plus it’s search depth is probably way to deep to spot the Frigate in the first place.
It would just be called "The Hunt..."
@@MaxwellAerialPhotography it's using active sonar as guidance so going dead in the water won't help much in that case, and if they were locked by the torpedo then they'd have a hard time shaking it off since it takes time for the frigate to speed up, but it's true that the torpedo is too deep to find the frigate
well it cant since americans are the good guys...
God, I love this movie. Can watch it anytime...
"Way to go, Dallas!"
I don't what it is but something is just so satisfying watching a submarine emergency blow
How it raises and so much water it moved
1:20 whenever the cowboys lose
This, Crimson Tide and Das Boot. Best movies about submarines.
Run silent run deep
00:36 lol battle stations he says like they didn’t set Condition 1 an hour ago
Still looks great decades later. Really shows what using real objects and practical effects can do, CGI would look dated almost instantly. Great cinematography!
and i just noticed they had a closure rate of 50 yards per second (Which is about 102 mph) when jonsey was counting down the distance from collision from 400 yards to 350 to 300 yards.
The Alpha class is an extremely fast submarine, capable of about 40+kts, while the Typhoon (Akula in Russia) isn't the fastest submarine in the world, they aren't a slouch either at 27kts. Red October might be slightly faster thanks to her Caterpillar Drive, but no more than maybe 32kts. Either way, the best case isn't to far off from your estimate (77kts), and a thing to remember is that these are estimated distances, not actual distances.
@@Tank50us *Alfa
Too bad the actor who played Mr. Thompson on the Dallas died so young
1:43 I love that guy
such a good shot that they used it on the TV show Monk later, "Monk under water" I believe
My favorite movie of all time
It takes balls to get in front of a torpedo and cut it off from it's intended target.
Like how the chief takes the diving officers position so he can call off depths himself.. bad ass
Such a good movie.
"Torpedo ahead"
XO: "You Arrogant Ass*... You killed us!
Captain Tupolov > 👁👄👁
*KABLAMMO*
If they had let this go on for a couple seconds more, you'd have seen one of the Soviet crewmen crossing himself.
That was one ballsey move!
We have this film on VHS & ßeta.
That's NOT the USS Dallas. That is the USS Houston. I was there....I know!!!!
Not the first time they do stuff like that. Remember Under Siege starring Steven Segal and Tommy Lee Jones? Supposedly it took place on the USS Missouri. But in actuality, they were onboard the USS Alabama IRL.
You heard Admiral Greer moments earlier. If he was never there - and he was 2nd highest CIA officer in the whole Company- then neither were you.
They used the Blueback for generic shots but only the Houston was used for that
@@bryanchong1713 . Incorrect. I was on the boat and a number of other crewmembers also served as Soviet sailors. All of the in water shots were the USS Houston. They still had some of the movie props aboard when I left in 94.
michaelksmith1970 Oh, I see. Now I get it,sorry if I misunderstood. Not to mention disagreeing with a guy who served.
Scott Glenn was amazing as Captain Burt Mancuso, but I think we should give attention to Dallas' Executive Officer Mr. Thompson. He was one hell of an officer to make all those command decisions while his captain was on the Red October. I like to think that Mr. Thompson was given command of his own submarine after this mission. LOL
Cool movie👍
“I think he’s got us”- as though saying “I think someone let a fly in the house”
facinating.
Boris Shcehrbina the sub driver?
That torpedos still active.. it’s searching for another target now”
Great movie, acting, music.
This scene makes me wonder, though, how Red October survived. It surely was soooo close to the Kanovolov at the time of the explosion. Would the October crew have survived the blast? Concussion? Insightful feedback most welcome. Kind thanks.
Soviet submarines are infamously durable things, cast-titanium triple-hulls make a sub quite durable (yeah, the Soviets were able to cast titanium so effectively they made it look like they're casting steel). A Typhoon would be one of the many subs with this sort of hull, as well as the Alfa. It should be noted that Soviet torpedoes have more boom than their NATO counterparts, likely due to the fact that they've assumed that NATO could cast titanium as well as they did...
@@TheTrueAdept Weren't the Alfas the only ones that were titanium? I thought the Typhoons were a standard steel alloy.
@@zlinedavid Typhoons were standard steel alloy. A Typhoon made from titanium would be astronomically pricey to build. The titanium Sierra class only had four boats because they were so expensive. The steel-hulled Akula proved to be just as good if not better than the Sierra.
@@TheTrueAdept Typhoon class as fat as I know didn't use titanium in their hulls, bloody hard to work with, Papa or goldenfish were great examples of this.. maybe around reactor spaces or vital missle stuff, but the double hulls did a good job of protecting the innards and were quite tough ..
What this movie continues to remind us are the multiple layers of cloak and dagger - majority of the crew did not know of the defection intent and the US navy to make it look like they were attempting to assist the Soviet navy, all which required precision and luck on a grand scale
1:14 Still the best part.
Does anyone know whare this song used in this scene is? I've been trying to find it
Basil Padorius composed the movies music he probably did the intense bit we hear here
2:16 contractually obligated "Ura!" Whenever there are Russians in a movie
The amount of impossible maneuvering and torpedo action in this scene is unmeasurable, but it’s entertaining as hell. I’m an old bubnlehead so you’ll have to excuse my hubris.
it's the pace as well, he had to keep the action going.. so things were condensed so the layman could comprehend it..
Seeing a torpedo chase an American sub 3000 yards off her stern , the audience would see just the blackness of the sea from the fish's vantage, but danger close from the subs crew's vantage.. plus the timing was condensed to seconds instead of minutes.. situational awareness, reaction times, etc just don't take 3 min 43 sec.. ..Hollywood stuff, but we get the gyst.. in fact in the book it's a collision that kills the alpha as you know.. much more likely and better use of Octobers immense bulk ( though titanium is pretty tough, maybe shoddy soviet welding saved the day?)..
either way, good observation.. It's guys like Lockwood, Gunther Prien, Morton, O'kene , and a host of Jap U boat skippers that hauled huge brass ones behind their boats.. Otto Kretschmer comes to mind too.. Doenitz himself pulled off a doozy or 2 in ww1.. American accomplishments are too many to mention, Cavallah, Dace n Darter, Nautilus ? Barb hitting a train anyone ? lots of material to make a good movie from ...
2:10
Captain scared them out of the water!!
Cmon big D, Flyyyy
1:59 - when your on top of her and trying to get it up.
All the talk about the sub, but not love for the USS Reuben James (FFG-57)
I just realized Reuben James was destroyed by the Russians in Red Storm Rising.
That was the Pharris. Reuben James survived to the end.
would that actually work in real life, swerving in front of the torpedo that's targeted at another sub to get it to lock onto you?
Yes. The Torpedo’s sonar is looking for anything it can get a solid return off of. The Dallas interposing itself caused the torp to lock onto it instead. Presented with a new big target, the torpedo pursues it relentlessly, having lost sight of the red October.
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He also has videos on the Cold War submarine simulator “Cold Waters” and ways to use real-world tactics to your advantage, as well as factual tidbits that you might find interesting!
@@FloatyBones77 but then why was Dallas able to evade just by surfacing ? And what does releasing countermeasures do here ?
@@dmmchugh3714 the countermeasures are bubbling because they are noisemakers. The bubbling action creates a strong localized noise source and confuses the Torpedo, much as jamming does to radar. Most torpedoes are programmed to either circle around or go through the noisemaker and reacquire the target. In this case the Dallas fired the noisemaker as it began the Emergency Blow, and the torpedo lost lock and sought out the noisemaker and dove through it. By surfacing, the Dallas took advantage of the fact that most torpedoes have poor vertical detection and exited its sonar envelope before it could begin a new search pattern.
@@FloatyBones77 just not that close or fast , and Dallas would have to be in a very opportune position to pull it off, they would never hove gotten in between a fat running torpedo, 50 knts, luanched by a fast running alpha 43 knts, with a 35knt sub? fairly close to a 26knt boomer..
once you do the math it's pretty unlikely, though fun to watch !!!
2:14
They did Comrade!
Captain scared the americans right out of the water!
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Can someone explain what Dallas did ? I could not follow the whole thing.
The torpedo was locked on the Red October, but the Dallas pulled between the Red October and the torpedo getting it to lock on Dallas and draw the torpedo away at least temporarily. They then used an emergency blow and countermeasures to pull away quickly and throw off the torpedo.
Check Body language of college
Grads first boarding, then leaving
what they got invited to aboard
the Navy's ship.
Three Americans detained in Russia in exchange for me and my fiance. Thank you. I appreciate it.
"Destroyer"
All fun and games till the Sub starts flying
Rip ramius
Cold Waters colorized
I'm sorry but I can't help but giggle at Big D's emergency blow.
Like when a Senator drops into a Brothel un announced..
The only easy day was yesterday.
Capitán Bayou!
When a 688 plays Wild Weasel.
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The other states and the hole black
I often wonder what the Soviets would have done to the rest of the crew after they got back to Russia. Probably sent them to the gulag.
Didn't watch the movie?
I don't know what the hell is that sonarist so happy about?? "Attaway "Dallas"!! Sir you've done it! Hurray! ...THE TORPEDOES ARE LOCKED ON US!" Woow! Some freaking reason to celebrate!
It was a part of the plan. The crew of the Dallas knew what Mr. Thompson’s plan was. Since the Dallas could not fire on the Russian attack sub, Mr. Thompson figured the best way to help Red October, with the Dallas’ Commanding Officer and best Sonar-man on board, was to pull the Russian torpedo away from the Red October then drop counter measures and full-blow.
You’re the kind of person people don’t want to see movies with because you get confused by things nobody else is confused by. Then, in your ignorance, you make fun of what you saw. Dude. Just stick to Adam Sandler movies.
@@winstonsol8713 Whaat??? 🤣F@@K off lunatic! 🤣
Check this this nutjob out - the trolling imbecile and his incomparable "sense of humour"! Read Clancy's book first, THEN PONTIFICATE to others about a scene that just simplified the plot hundredfold in a totally unrealistic way! Maybe then you'll understand why I did write that down - until then keep your distance from me and lay off the meth, for your own sake!
PS.
Jeez! Ja pier...! ...co za PAJAC!... 😃😃
That was the point, the torpedos were locked on Red October, Dallas was redirecting them by first getting them locked onto it then breaking the lock so they'll redirect back onto the sub that launched them at Red
@@winstonsol8713 You're the kind of person that assumes what sort of a person someone else is, because the latter made an IRONIC comment, about a scene that is closer to bad sci-fi and not only implausible, but de facto IMPOSSIBLE! Next time READ CLANCY'S BOOK, if you know what a book is! These are not fighter-jets in the air, launching chaffs & flares, to get rid of a missile and a modern torpedo is not an IR-guided "Sidewinder". These are submarines - especially a beast like the "Typhoon"-class - will not enact those manouvers in seconds, like shown here - it will take them many minutes just to make a simple TURN - sometimes HOURS, so if you don't get irony - please! - keep the trap shut, 'cause the only fool here is you. 😂
PS. Your comment would have bothered me, if you only knew three languages more.
Stick to comics kid.
Pozdrowienia pajacyku na sznurkach! 😂
Cat and mouse
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What is the real? story who won ussr or us?
Canada won. Canada always wins.
@@Daniel73-23 lol
No one did, this is based off a real event in Russia where a ships officer stole a Russian warship. But he did not try to come here instead they tried to start a Russian civil war.
France.
Well one still exists and one doesn’t. You tell me mate.
I'm in Dallas, going Russia soon. NEW. Exchange.
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Konavolov says it's 900 metres behind. There is no way Dallas gets between that. In fact when it fires it's a matter of seconds.
Well, movies made from books you buy at airports.
one of the most successful books of Tom Clancys life, and the one that earned him the right to see some really black stuff after a visit by the CIA.
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true Norm, and it didn't happen in the Book, October collides with the alpha when her skipper makes a mistake.. and hits the conning tower, so even the Titanium hull didn't help her..Clancy was a little more realistic in his writing.. however a boomer even coming close to an Alpha ? doubtful lest she was disabled.. Personally if I were Ramius, I would feint surrender, intend to pull up along side, then put the pedal to the medal and smash her before he can get moving..
bad copy of this clip black pictchur
to much swearing not surprising movie Cineramas r empty
There's barely any swearing in this film
The Hunt for Red October (1990)
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